Linux-Misc Digest #580, Volume #18 Tue, 12 Jan 99 06:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: linuxberg: wow (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Re: Downloading large files, Re: good office package for linux (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Re: Eudora for Linux is a good idea (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Re: YAMAHA 4260TI does this work well in this OS??? /\/\ No REPLYS this unit must
suck (Brad BARCLAY)
Re: StarOffice question (Stephen Richard FREELAND)
Re: rpm 5.005_?? ? DANGER (Alan Curry)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ("big security
nightmare")
Re: Cookies and getting complete web pages (Bud Rogers)
Re: 128 bit Netscape 4.08 built against glibc (mickey stein)
Re: sendmail and smbd are SO slow on boot (Villy Kruse)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Eric)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ("big security
nightmare")
Re: Opinions on Applixware (Jim Heffner)
Re: Observations and reservations over BeOS compared to Linux (Andy Johnson)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Steve Mading)
Mounting FAT32 (RPEREZ)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Pawel Sakowski)
Re: ping: sendto: Network is unreachable (steve mcadams)
Re: Networking two linux machines (proxy) (David Efflandt)
Re: K6-2 300 Problem ("Michael.Creasy")
Re: iomega atapi zip under RH5.2 ("Michael.Creasy")
hylafax, poll sending, poll server (Frank Siedler)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Subject: Re: linuxberg: wow
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Date: 12 Jan 1999 01:02:17 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Costomiris) writes:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:34:36 GMT, David M. Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: But what I want to know is who rated vile better than emacs.
>
> Even more interesting would be to find out who decided that pico
> was somehow better than vim. Pico was rated better than emacs as well.
> Personally, I think emacs is the ultimate in overbloat, but if you like
> it, go for it. At least you'll get lots of finger exercise, doing those
> ctrl+meta+alt+left-shift key combos. :-)
Pico is an editor. Emacs is a religion.
> I'm extremely happy to see Tucows doing this, and am impressed with the site,
> but the ratings could use a bit of work.
Yeah. Tres' cool.
Keven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Subject: Re: Downloading large files, Re: good office package for linux
Date: 12 Jan 1999 00:50:18 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Cameron Spitzer wrote:
>
>> When I fetch a large file, I just copy it to my ISP shell account
>> first. Then split(1) it into 2 MB chunks and download those.
>> Reassemble with cat(1). Is reget widely supported now? That would
>> be easier.
>
> Your ISP will let you put a 54-meg file on their system? Pretty damn
> generous. Try ncftp, which allows reget. Nice package.
I kinda like wget. Works great, especially when you're downloading from a
web server. It could use a GUI front end, which I might decide I want bad
enough to write one with Tk/Tcl. *IF* I get desperate enough, that is...
Keven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Subject: Re: Eudora for Linux is a good idea
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: 12 Jan 1999 00:45:22 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Apparently one guy cared enough to write XFMail, which
> is fully graphical, very nice, and what I use. It comes
> with source, and is freely usable except for commercial
> resale (based on XForms). There's also XCMail (which is
> not as free) and a bunch of others I looked at that I
> didn't lile as much as XFMail.
I use an *old* version of exmh. 1.6.9. Very dated, but it pretty much
does what I need it to.
Keven
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad BARCLAY)
Subject: Re: YAMAHA 4260TI does this work well in this OS??? /\/\ No REPLYS this unit
must suck
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad BARCLAY)
Date: 12 Jan 1999 02:55:14 +0500
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:16:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> hi there
>>
>> just wondering id this scsi cdrw works well in these operating
>> systems. os2 warp / linux / win98(ugh)/?
>>
>> send me your comments please before i buy it.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> (i probably will buy it anyway)
I just installed a new Yamaha 4416S 4x/4x/16x CD-RW drive on my OS/2 WARP
v4 system, and am using it without problems with RSJ's Cd-Writer for OS/2.
The RSJ CD compatibility guide does list the Yamaha 4260 as a supported
drive, so you should be okay (although you might want to buy the newer 4416S
if you can, as it has 2Mb of onboard write cache and a 16x read speed). In
fact, according to it's CD drive infomation file, it uses 4260 compatibility
mode when you're using a 4416S (as I am).
Brad BARCLAY
===============
>From the OS/2 WARP v4 Desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://yaztromo.idirect.com
Public PGP Key available upon request. [ ] VoiceType Dictated.
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From: Stephen Richard FREELAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice question
Date: 12 Jan 1999 02:29:28 GMT
Boris Statnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Did anyone notice memory usage by StarOffice?
: top shows 5 processes, about 22MB large each. OUCH!
: Did I mis-install the app?
Okay, it's not as bad as it seems. I've got 6 x 31 megs showing,
with 6 x 10M resident. I only have 32M of physical memory, so I'd say it's
a fairly safe guess that they aren't *separate* memory chunks... It *is*
awfully fat, though. WP is much slimmer; too bad it won't take fonts other
than the supplied set... Dunno if I feel like springing for the $50 I could
spend on another 32M of memory though...
I don't think it's actually possible to mis-install it, you really
don't have that much choice about what happens. Don't think picking
components out of the installation would help, either...
: Also, I installed it as root. Now it won't work for me as a user. What
: should I do?
Reinstall as root with the /net option. Then, as as regular user,
run <...>/Office50/bin/setup and select the "Network install" method.
--
Steve 'Nephtes' Freeland | Okay, so maybe I'm a tiny itty little
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | bit of a minimalist.
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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: rpm 5.005_?? ? DANGER
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Curry)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:31:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Pascal Rigaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>go to filewatcher.org, search for perl*005*i386*, you'll find :
>
>ftp://contrib.redhat.com/libc6/i386/
>
> 3689k 1998-08-11 i perl-5.005_02-1.i386.rpm ->rh c. i386 gl
Watch out for this perl rpm. It was compiled with threads enabled, and
threads are a new experimental feature in perl 5.005, which have some weird
side effects, even on scripts which do not use the feature. In some cases
these side effects are documented, but there are definitely bugs too. Do not
blindly "rpm -U" this on top of a working 5.004 install if you expect your
existing scripts to continue working. I did, and I suffered mysterious
breakage as a result. (See the c.l.p.m post
<Ljhk2.581$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and its followups for the story)
I hope the contrib.redhat.com maintainer will rename that thing to
perl-threaded-5.005_02-1.i386.rpm, before it hurts anyone else.
--
Alan Curry echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] | tr a-z n-za-m
The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
-- lbxproxy(1)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: 11 Jan 1999 02:41:53 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Omni� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
eloquently scribe:
: thanks a million NF
: I've learnt so much tonite
: this is a very helpfull NG
: a few juveniles around
The only Juvenile I've seen is you.
The rest just reacted badly to your pathetic way of posting.
(As most people would)
: but overall an AAA rating !!
: wish MS phone support was as helpful
Hah! You'd be lucky.
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From: "big security nightmare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:08:17 +1100
Omni� wrote in message <2j3m2.155$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I didnt say copy a file , dickwad
>(read it next time)
>I said create a file , from nothing
Oh you naughty boy. Your daddy should spank you on the bot.
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From: Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cookies and getting complete web pages
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:17:43 -0600
On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Kim Carter wrote:
>What I am attempting to do is retrieve one or more web pages, access to
>which is controlled by 'cookies'. Is there a program which operates like
>say wget which can do this?
Wget can send cookies. Somebody posted this example on the wget mailing list.
% wget --header='Cookie: TVG_USER=0-tempuser-nopass-2022-P-98155-99-tv; TVG_CNUM=7-0;
TVG_CDISP=KIRO; TVG_CID=KIRO; TVG_EDNAME=TCI; ZIP=98155' -O tvg.html
'http://verity-www2.tvgen.com/tv/listings/s97is.vts?Action=FilterSearch&Server=http://www.tvgen.com&Filter=tvg_search_filter.hts&query=JAG&details=on&dateRange=7'
--
Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html
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From: mickey stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 128 bit Netscape 4.08 built against glibc
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:03:52 +0000
Chris Leith wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get a glibc version of Netscape 4.08 with
> 128 bit encryption capabilities? I can get 4.5 directly from Netscape,
> but I was under the impression that it was still buggy. Is that true?
>
> Thanks a million in advance.
>
> Chris Leith
Chris,
I'm using the 4.5 glibc vers of 4.5 with 128 bit encryption. I can't
see that it's anymore buggy than
the older versions. I'm sure it's got it's bugs but so far so
good,
check it out,
Mick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: sendmail and smbd are SO slow on boot
Date: 12 Jan 1999 09:47:36 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris) writes:
>
>> For whatever reason, sendmail takes about 4 minutes to load during
>> boot and the smb daemon takes a good 10-15 minutes...it's crazy.
>> Any help on these issues would be great.
>> (RedHat 5.1 Manhattan, 2.0.35, PCMCIA 3Com Etherlink)
>
>add an entry to /etc/hosts for your fqdn to stop the dns timeouts.
>
The strange thing is that redhat standard installation procedure will
put fully qualified domain names in /etc/hosts, even an alias for
localhost is defined with a domain part: 'localhost.localdomain' for
the case the system doesn't have a proper name. This is a FAQ BTW.
Villy
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:55:35 -0700
Omni� wrote:
> I did that
> and it all checks out at boot
> but what is the damm command to connect to the net!!!!
> as I didnt set it for auto connect , thats not what i want
> i like to connect when I want to - its a control thing
> like in win98 I just click an icon
> do I have to type 100 or so characters with foward slashs every so often
> just to log on?
>
>
> >
> >
no, all you have to do is either use the control panel and change the status
from inactive to active and your modem will dial, or you can use usernet to
connect. right click (now I'm speaking your language, so it should be clear)
anywhere on the desktop, choose networking, then usernet. click the button. I
don't remember if usernet only works if you set up your ppp connection with
linuxconf, or if it works with both linuxconf and the control panel.
Eric
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From: "big security nightmare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:14:35 +1100
Omni� wrote in message ...
>hoo Fu### ray !!!!!
>
>thank you
>I now have access to my cdrom and floppy
>
>thank you :)
What bullsh***. Your just trolling for young boys.
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From: Jim Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions on Applixware
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:04:27 +0000
This sounds promising. Overall, how is the performance? SO 5.0 has a
tendency to CRAWL, depending on what you're doing...even with 96MB RAM installed.
Thanks.
Jim
Peter Cedermark wrote:
>
> I use ApplixWare 4.1 at school and it works great. It uses a different approach,
> i.e. doesn't offer an integrated desktop (which I like). The programs in the
> suite are very capable and should satisfy your needs. They are on a par with the
> programs in the StarOffice suite.
>
> What I don't know is if there is a capability to import documents from Microsnot
> Office, but that information is probably available at the company's website.
>
> That's my (very brief) opinion...
>
> Jim Heffner wrote:
> >
> > I've installed Staroffice 5.0, but the maddening registration process,
> > along with the incredible slowness of the software, have motivated me to
> > look at alternatives. If anyone who has used Applix (or even both),
> > could offer their honest opinion, I'd be interested in hearing what you
> > have to say.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jim
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:21:33 -0500
From: Andy Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Observations and reservations over BeOS compared to Linux
Oh, dude!! If you're serious, I want a copy of this graphic! I'm in the process
of putting up my web site and this would be sooo coooolll!
Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> Kaustav,
> As another semi-newbie (since May 9th, 1998) I want to invite you to my
> M$ License burning party, to be held on this newsgroup following the
> release of the english version SuSE 6.0!
>
> Not long after I receive my copy of that distro (I'm on subscription) I
> will reformat both of my hard drives to scour Win95 off completely.
> Then SuSE 6.0 and ONLY SuSE is going on.
> To commemorate the event I plan to create an animated icon that shows an
> M$ license burning to ashes and THE Penquin walking through the dying
> flames to the foreground!
> I will upload it to any website that wants it, unless some artist out
> there beats me to it or creates a better looking one than mine... In
> that case email me a copy! :-)
> Jerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 12 Jan 1999 03:40:41 -0600
mlw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Johan Kullstam wrote:
: >
: > Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: >
: > > It's unwise of Americans to talk about genocide. Europeans carried out
: > > genocide in the New World long before Adolf.
: >
: > why is it unwise? the americans largely suceeded!
: And does that make you feel good? Genocide is horrible no matter who has
: done it, and I think one would be hard pressed to find a government that
: hasn't attempted some form of it.
: U.S.A. yup native americans, japanise internment
Locking someone up because they look like the people in the
country you are fighting (Japan) is certainly wrong. But
it does not fit under the heading "genocide".
--
Steve Mading: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~madings
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From: RPEREZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mounting FAT32
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:47:33 +0100
Hi,
Which is the filesystem type to mount a FAT32 partition on RedHat 5.2
Linux?
Regards
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pawel Sakowski)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:14:09 +0100
>I guess I'm quick to forget
>I remember peter norton was a big help
>wish he'd write a linux primer
Why Norton? Isn't Midnight Commander (mc) good enough?
--
"We are different"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:59:46 GMT
[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:36:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Since this is just two systems in one room, I've assigned goofy
>> ip-addrs,
>
>> Linux: 111.111.111.111
>> NT: 222.222.222.222
>
>You've got them on different networks. No need for "goofy" ip numbers: the
>blocks of numbers set aside for private networks are intended for exactly
>what you are doing. Make one box 10.0.0.1 and the other 10.0.0.2 .
Well, I set the Linux box up as 10.0.0.1 and the NT box up as 10.0.0.2
and both can ping themselves by these addresses and can ping
127.0.0.1. But on the Linux side trying to ping the NT side still
gives the "Network is unreachable" message, and on the NT side trying
to ping the Linux side gives a timeout message. I know both cards and
the cable are fine because running NT to 98 works fine. It has to be
something to do with IP configuration but I'm not sure where to look.
-steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Networking two linux machines (proxy)
Date: 12 Jan 1999 10:09:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:14:23 -0500, Chris Leith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have desktop machine connected to an ethernet, and I would like to
>connect my laptop to this machine, using my desktop as a proxy server
>for it. (Not sure if I have the terminology or picture straight.) I
>was told that I need to add a second ethernet card to my desktop machine
>to do this, and I think I am capable of getting the hardware setup
>correctly. However, I am not sure how to setup linux for the network I
>desire. Could anyone start me off, or at least point me in the
>direction of a relevent HOWTO doc? Is this a painful undertaking?
Take a look at the HOWTO on IP Masquerade. To the outside world,
everything you do on the laptop will appear to come from the desktop. One
thing I have not seen mentionrf in the HOWTO's is that to enable IP
Forwarding you have to change the contents of an ip_forward file in your
/proc tree from 0 to 1.
There are also proxies like 'squid', which is fine for web browsing, but
it may not be good for downloading large files because it caches
everything in RAM.
>Currently I have my desktop machine dynamically grabbing an IP from the
>ethernet. I have linux 2.0.34, and I successfully compiled the kernel
>to support my PCI D-link 10Mbs ether adapter. This much I found fairly
>simple to get going, and I am ultimately wondering if the next step I
>want to take, as outlined above, will be as straight forward.
You can use IP's in the private range for your laptop to desktop
connection (ie: 192.168.x.x, 172.16.x.x, and 10 something).
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
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From: "Michael.Creasy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: K6-2 300 Problem
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:01:37 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can't as I'm usingthe 350 and it runs like a dream.
Michael
garv wrote:
>
> Marcos Silva wrote:
>
> > My computer configuration is k6-2 300Mhz, RAM 64Mb, HD 2Gb, CD 32x
> > Creative, network card 3C509, video card SVirge 4Mb.
> >
>
> Don't think you cam blame k6-2 300. I am using it with no problemo.
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From: "Michael.Creasy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: iomega atapi zip under RH5.2
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:00:53 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
try access it as hdb4 not just hdb - as mine is hdd4.
Michael
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:01:54 +0100
From: Frank Siedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hylafax, poll sending, poll server
Hi,
is it possible to set up a poll server under hylafax ? Or ist it
necessary to use an other getty with hylafax ?
Thanks, Frank
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