Linux-Misc Digest #585, Volume #18               Tue, 12 Jan 99 16:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: how do you do that 'fortune login' trick correctly? (C Sanjayan Rosenmund)
  Re: compiler for linux (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Netscape, and garbage in text entry areas. (Bob Crafton)
  Re: How to edit /etc/fstab to mount cdrom automatically? (Villy Kruse)
  Re: Remotely killing X-server - killing zombies explained (Jeremy Mathers)
  Obscure bug (?) in Linux telnet (Jeremy Mathers)
  ActiveX support (Neil Zanella)
  WP8 equations<->MSWord? (Kryz Caputa)
  Re: Linux, Unix or Unix alike? (Andy Johnson)
  make zImage => goes wrong , make dep clean => goes alright (Onion Ok)
  Re: What linux works best with a cable modem? ("Terrelle Shaw")
  Re: does the Diamond SupraExpress 56i Modem do linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: GUIDs on UNIX/LINUX? ("Todd A. Wood")
  Linux PPP Help For Newbie -- Netcom (Michael O'Malley)
  Re: Backgroup graphic on xterm ? (Jeff Kay)
  Colours (Matt Cobley)
  Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (nic)
  Re: GUIDs on UNIX/LINUX? (Thomas H Jones II)
  Re: How to print a man page? (Bill Unruh)
  Re: setuid for ppd (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Fox)
  Re: How to print a man page? (Peter Granroth)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers ("Keith Peterson")
  Re: How to make wine access ports directly.? (Andreas Mohr)
  Re: SuSE root disk? (zentara)

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From: C Sanjayan Rosenmund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: how do you do that 'fortune login' trick correctly?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:11:33 GMT

take it out of .bashrc and put it into /etc/profile  That will fix it. 
You may also want to put it into /etc/csh.login for those who use csh as
their default shell. . . 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Right now I have fortune called in my .bashrc
> 
> But this way my users get a fortune: when they login, when they open a Xterm,
> and they get two when they exit Xwindows.
> 
> I just want one fortune to come up at login and no more that sesion.
> 
> One of my books says to put a line into my '.login' file.  Well, I don't have
> one on RedHat 5.2.  If I write one where should it go?
> 
> Thanks in advance, Tone
> 
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: compiler for linux
Date: 12 Jan 1999 12:24:45 -0500

Edward Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Brandon wrote:
> > I have just been informed that I have to have Borland Turbo C
> > Assembler program for my Engineering 2 class.  I have my laptop setup
> > with Linux for compiling stuff. The professor says that if we do the
> > programs on our own computers that they have to work on the schools
> > computers b/c thats part of the grade. So I need to know if I make a
> > program using C in linux and compile with gcc if it would work once I
> > put it on a win95 machine? I know that I woul dhave to convert  the
> > executable from either a.out or elf format to .exe which Win95 uses,
> > which I would also need to knwo how to do that.
> 
> No you can't, your best bet for fuller flavour would be to 
> write the code in ansi C on your linux box, compile it, test it
> and then copy your source code onto the computer at school and compile
> it there.
> Of course there are several problems if what you are writing
> cannot be achieved in ansi C, such as any operating system, compiler or
> hardware specifics.
> > 
> > If compiling it wont allow it to work on a win95 machine using gcc,
> > would it be possible to use some sort of Borland program on linux so
> > that it will work a win95 machine? ? Which if it is possible I would
> > need to know if there is such a program available, hopefully free.
> 
> Even if there was a Borland Compiler for Linux you couldn't compile
> a windows executable with it.

but you can make a cygwin cross compiler which is hosted on linux and
produces windows binaries.  this is how octave binaries get made since
cygwin is, for whatever reason, an order of magnitude slower on
windows nt than in linux.  the octave build takes a couple of hours on
a ppro-200 in linux so the time savings is significant.

> The great thing about ansi C is its portability.
> This means that if you write a piece of code in ansi C on
> your linux box with an ansi C compiler then take that
> source code to another machine it will also compile on that 
> machines ansi C compiler.  The source code is portable but not the
> executable.
> 
> > 
> > The main goal of this is to be able to use my laptop which i
> > specifically put linux on it so that i could make programs for school
> > and at the same time get away with not having to pay $50 or whatever
> > for Borland Turbo C assembler for Win95.
> > 
> There is of course still some hope, not all of the code you
> wish to write will prove to be unportable.
> Leave or comment out any system calls or such like and
> get the skeleton of the program working on your linux box at your
> leisure and then get the system or Borland specifics working at 
> school, ok, its not the best option and if your program involves
> alot of it you'll spend most of your time on the machines at school
> it depends on the program your writing.
> 
> If you have to develop the program on the schools machines I think
> you should develop it o your linux machine as well and hand it in with
> your original project as an extra credit porting project.

go to http://www.cygnus.com/ and follow the cygwin links.  cygwin is a
port of gcc and egcs and a whole slew of tools to win32.

-- 
johan kullstam

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From: Bob Crafton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape, and garbage in text entry areas.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 04:06:45 -0500

Bill Unruh wrote:
> 
>  I am running Netscape(4.05) on Linux Redhat 5.1 (4.05)
> In text entry areas, like the ones in the search entries on the Netwcape
> Search page , If I go back to try to edit those areas, a whole bunch of
> garbage gets entered onto the end of the entry if I try to backspace
> delete the letters of the entry. The only way out seems to be to kill
> Netscape and try again.
> Is this a known bug? Is there some way around it?
> 
> ( Mch64 driver on an ATI Rage Pro card, running Aotherlevel window
> manager.)

This is a problem in ver 4.05.  Easiest fix is to get the rpms for ver
4.08 from RedHat updates.

Bob Crafton

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: How to edit /etc/fstab to mount cdrom automatically?
Date: 12 Jan 1999 09:39:22 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi all,
>I know this question had been asked a billion times in this news group,
>but how do I mount cdrom automatically at start up?  thank you in
>advance!
>
>

/dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom              iso9660 noauto,ro       0 0


If you remove 'noauto' it should mount the CD at boot time.

Villy

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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: Remotely killing X-server - killing zombies explained
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:40:32 GMT

In article <77d6d1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Vincent Zweije  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
>In fact, zombies can't be killed at all, with whatever signal; they're
>already dead.  They don't hold any resources except a slot in the process
>table.  There's no reason to want them out of the process table except
>to free the slot.
...
>Bah.  I bit again.  This must be in innumerable unix text books.  :-)

Yeah...  If I had a penny for everytime the concept of zombies has been
explained on the Usenet over the years, I'd be a wealthy man indeed.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Obscure bug (?) in Linux telnet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:45:22 GMT

Try the following command on your Linux system:

        telnet 0 13

Assuming you have the daytime service active in /etc/inetd.conf, this will
show you the current date/time (interspersed with telnet's banners).

Now, try:

        telnet 0 13 < /dev/null

Does it still work?

It used to (on early versions of Red Hat), but they seem to have
broken it somewhere along the way.  I'm curious to know in which
versions/distributions it works and in which ones it doesn't - and to know
people's opinions on the eternal question: Bug or Feautre?

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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ActiveX support
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:57:24 -0330


Hello,

I hope this is not too off-topic,...

Will any Linux browser ever be supporting ActiveX ?

What is the good of using ActiveX?

TIA,

N.

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From: Kryz Caputa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WP8 equations<->MSWord?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:51:48 -0800

Has anyone tried reading in MSWord document into Corel WP8?
The free version I have, excellent otherwise, does not have that
capability - equations are only available in the full version.
I will purchase the Word Perfect full version instantly if it does.
(same goes for Applix and Star Office but these packages seem far from
delivering that compatibility - Applix that I have seen read MSW
equations but they were not editable - appeared to be bitmaps or
postscript inserts)
-- 
Kryz Caputa
Dpt of Electrical and Computer Engineering
University of Victoria, British Columbia

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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:38:58 -0500
From: Andy Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux, Unix or Unix alike?



Sean Yamamoto wrote:

> UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group.
>

It's a little murkier than that.  Although UNIX is a registered
trademark of The Open Group, SCO actually owns the System V kernel
source code.  This is all because Novell bought all of UNIX from AT&T,
realized it didn't understand UNIX, and sold it off.  When Novell sold
it, SCO got rights to the code and the trademarks were turned over to
The Open Group.

>
> Legally speaking, Linux is not UNIX because the source code
> tree isn't derived from their tree. You have to pay The Open
> Group a license fee in order to adopt the UNIX name officially.
> Companies that have paid this fee include: Digital (Compaq),
> Sun, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and Silicon Graphics, among others.
>
> Linux does mimic the form and function of Unix enough so that
> for all practical matters, it is Unix. It is not Unix in a
> court of law. If you read the documentation on www.linux.org,
> you will notice that they rather gingerly call it a "Unix-like"
> operating system. Read more about Unix on The Open Group's
> web site, www.opengroup.org, if this topic continues to
> interest you.

You've come across one of the interesting "conventions" of the 'Net.
Most people (well, that I know anyway) take UNIX (all caps) to mean
"registered trademark of The Open Group," while Unix (lowercase) means
"UNIX and all its workalikes."  To be perfectly clear, lots of people
also use *nix or Un*x to mean the latter.

And, while it's true all the companies you mentioned have paid the The
Open Group so they can say they're "UNIX", Digital UNIX, IBM AIX, and I
believe HP-UX are not based on the AT&T UNIX kernel.  And SunOS (or as
Sun likes to call it now, "Solaris") was originally NOT AT&T-based, but
Sun switched.

A lot can happen in 25-or-so years.  ;-)



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From: Onion Ok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.alpha,linux.dev.kernel,linux.redhat.misc,nl.comp.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux,redhat.kernel.general,redhat.general,linux.redhat
Subject: make zImage => goes wrong , make dep clean => goes alright
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:31:58 +0000

Hi,

First I had installed kernel 2.0.34 then I downloaded the (full) 2.0.36
kernel, I installed this one and it works alright.
Now I downloaded an unstable kernel, version 2.2.0-pre6 (the newest if
I'm right). I don't think this error has anything to do with the kernel
being unstable. When I do "make dep clean" , It goes alright. But when I
do "make zImage" , after about 15 minutes it gives errors about
"checksum.o" , it says: "already configured" and then it stops and there
is no zImage file.

Does anyone know how I can resolve this problem or have any idee's? If
so, please let me know by newsgroup
or e-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "Terrelle Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: What linux works best with a cable modem?
Date: 12 Jan 1999 19:40:38 GMT

Linux is linux..what distrubution is what your really asking.. 


Paul E Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<mW7m2.28023$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> In article <779uco$s1a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(smile) wrote:
> >I have a cable modem Com/21 and an ethernet card Tbase/10 on ISA slot.
> >Would like to know which linux would work best with my configuration.
> >I've got also amd 350 and w95(intend to install w98).
> >Would appreciate any advice.
> >
> So far Redhat and Caldera have been the easiest to configure for my cable

> modem. With Redhat I use DHCP and with Caldera it is BOOTP, haven't tried
DHCP 
> with Caldera yet.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Get rid of the blahs to email me :}
> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: does the Diamond SupraExpress 56i Modem do linux?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:41:18 GMT

I too have a Diamond Supra Express modem. I realize that I need to take it
out o pnp mode but I do not know what to do in Linux to actually set it up.
Any help would be appreciated.

Bill

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerald Taylor) wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > No it is not.  I just picked up one of these to replace a SupraMax modem
> > > > which is.  It'll work fine.
> > > >
> > > > john
> > > >
> > >
> > > I was guessing that it wasn't because when I run the isapnp program my
machine
> > > just hangs.  Did you have to do anything special to configure it?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Tone
> > >
> >
> >    You just have to take it out of the PnP mode -- that is set the jumpers
for a
> > specific COM/IRQ.  Then set your /dev/modem link to point to the
corresponding
> > /dev/cuax file.
> >
> >    If you plan to use the modem for Windows too, you need to create install
it on
> > the same COM port as the jumpers are set for.
> >
> >    Let me know if you have any problems.
> >
> > john
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I've been using the SupraExpress in Linux without problem, and I have
> left it in plug-and-play mode, if I recall correctly.  It works rather
> well.
>
> I had to configure the serial connection with setserial, and init the
> card with /etc/isapnp.conf file, uncommenting the correct config of
> course.
>
> Gerald
>

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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:05:07 +0100
From: "Todd A. Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: GUIDs on UNIX/LINUX?

Mike Strong wrote:
> 
> Microsoft provided a utility called UUIDGEN that can generate a globally
> unique identifier (GUID).   I would like something like that that works on
> UNIX, and, if possible, cross platform.  For my purposes, it does not need
> to replicate the algorithm used to generate the GUIDs put out by Microsoft's
> utility.  I would simply like something on UNIX that could generate IDs that
> are guaranteed to be unique.
> 
> Any pointers, folks?
> 
> Mike
man gethostid

GETHOSTID(2)        Linux Programmer's Manual        GETHOSTID(2)

NAME
       gethostid, sethostid - get or set the unique identifier of
       the current host

SYNOPSIS
       #include <unistd.h>

       long int gethostid(void);
       int sethostid(long int hostid);

DESCRIPTION
       Get or set a unique  32-bit  identifier  for  the  current
       machine.   The  32-bit identifier is intended to be unique
       among all UNIX systems in existence. This normally  resem-
       bles  the  Internet  address  for  the  local  machine, as
       returned by gethostbyname(3), and thus usually never needs
       to be set.

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From: Michael O'Malley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux PPP Help For Newbie -- Netcom
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:57:22 -0500

I just installed Red Hat 5.0 on my machine.  I have followed the man
pages for pppd and actually found a help file at the netcom site for
linux setup, but have not been able to get it to work.  Sometime ago I
ran Slackware and had no problem getting hooked up to my local ISP, but
they were much more linux friendly.

I am running a generic 56k modem (not a winblowsmodem, or other software
dependent piece o crap), and have had no problem initializing it under
RH -- I have no problems using dial-up under NT, '95, or BeOS and I have
been able to use the modem under Solaris even, so it is not the modem.

Can somebody send me working ppp-on, ppp-off, chat, options, resolv.conf
files for netcom???  Even if you have a script that works for another
ISP, I would be interested in seeing it (minus the user info of course)
because I am really stuck and I want to use Linux as my primary OS  but
without internet access I have to boot up microsux all the time.  BeOS
is fine, but no Netscape port yet and few apps.

Here is the link to the Linux How To for Netcom....

 http://www.netcom.com/bin/webtech/NETCOM_Accounts/Other_OS/linux.cfg.html

Thanks for any help.




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From: Jeff Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Backgroup graphic on xterm ?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:26:13 +0000

Hey there

This cant be done on Xterm ( I pretty sure anyway ), What you want is either
rxvt, aterm or Eterm...

I would recommend aterm or Eterm because you can aslo have transparent or
transparent tinted windows too...

In fact I would recommend aterm because unlike Eterm it is not tied to any
libraries and thus will install easily

in Eterm type: Eterm -P "imagename" -- many image formats, png, xpm, jpg,
gif(?), etc

in aterm type: aterm -pixmap "imagename.xpm"  --aterm must be xpm format
though

cheers

>  Could anybody know that how to set the backgroup graphic on xterm and KDE
>  terminal ? I wonder can it be done on X windows.
>
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From: Matt Cobley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Colours
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:10:43 +0000

Hi,
    I used to run a Debian system (which someone else set up for me),
but now I've got RedHat 5.2 that I set up myself. There was a lovely
little feature in my Debian setup which made different filetypes appear
in different colours, can anyone tell me how to do this under RedHat?

   Thanks,

    Matt


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nic)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:11:12 GMT

Has any-one ever tried to buy a PC without windoze on it?
franzl



On 7 Jan 1999 21:12:59 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>
> 
>>>
>>>first, the cost is the last thing a home user will look at.
>>
>>      bwahahaha...
>>
>>      No, the first thing the 'home user' is gonna look
>>      at is is 'everyone else' using it.
>>
>>      Then will come price.
>
>Ok, this then does not contrdict what I said, which implies that price
>is not what end user first looks at. You said what I said but in diffent way.
>
>>
>>      Nope. Home users don't want MS bundleware because it's
>>      good, they want it because 'everyone else' is using it.
> 
>and everyone is using Window application becuase? aha! Marketing, right? 
>
>we have such a great office applications on Unix/Linux, but those 
>dam M$ Marketing people just wont let any one else on the streets know 
>about it!
>
>Bob (call me Bill too).


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From: Thomas H Jones II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: GUIDs on UNIX/LINUX?
Date: 12 Jan 1999 15:12:05 -0500
Reply-To: Thomas H Jones II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <77g8ng$17b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Strong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did thusly spew forth: 
>Microsoft provided a utility called UUIDGEN that can generate a globally
>unique identifier (GUID).   I would like something like that that works on
>UNIX, and, if possible, cross platform.  For my purposes, it does not need
>to replicate the algorithm used to generate the GUIDs put out by Microsoft's
>utility.  I would simply like something on UNIX that could generate IDs that
>are guaranteed to be unique.
>
>Any pointers, folks?

umm... just HOW unique are you looking for? are you wanting UID's that are
unique within the context of one system? unique within the context of a
group of systems? or unique within the context of all UIDs on any computer
anywhere in the world (this last one will be damn near impossible without
people participating some sort of database of registered UIDs).

any way, without a framing context, kind of difficult to answer your
question.

-tom


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: How to print a man page?
Date: 12 Jan 1999 20:14:56 GMT

In <77g2v9$22s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

]Hey dudes! I'm trying to print man page on ipfwadm , but i can't find how to
]do that :-) I found that man page on ipfwadm is in the
]/usr/man/man8/ipfwadm.8 file, but it has some sort of special formatting that
]is kinda difficult to read in emacs,vi, or KDE's kedit. Is there any way to

Yes, troff encoding

try man ipfwadm|lpr

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: setuid for ppd
Date: 12 Jan 1999 20:17:22 GMT

In <tIMm2.12$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Rick Glunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I've setup a dialout group, added my user to that group, used chown :dialout
>for pppd and both scripts, used chmod 754 on pppd and both scripts.....I get
>the same error.  Any more suggestions?  Thanks.

chmod o+s /usr/sbin/pppd
Ie it must be setuid to root.
ls -lga /usr/sbin/pppd to check its ownership and modes.


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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 12 Jan 1999 06:03:26 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven C. Den Beste) writes:

> >the consumer putting up with applications that force him to pay loads
> >of money for upgrading everything to the newest incompatible file
> >format?
> 
> Perhaps because they're not? Perhaps because no-one is actually forcing
> anyone to upgrade? Perhaps because they're upgrading to get new features?

My brother-in-law told me that newer versions of Word can't read files
produced by some of the old versions.  How does this fit your theory?
Or is he pulling my leg?
-- 
David Fox           http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf             xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab                                         baL ICH DSCU

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From: Peter Granroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to print a man page?
Date: 12 Jan 1999 20:58:45 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> -> Hey dudes! I'm trying to print man page on ipfwadm , but i can't find 
> -> how to do that :-) 
> 
> If your printer is set up correctly,
> 
>   man ipfwadm | lpr
> 
> should do the trick.... It does for me.

man -t ipfwadm | lpr

gives better looking output

-- 
==================================
+         Peter Granroth         +
+  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +
+     http://granroth.ml.org     +
==================================

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From: "Keith Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:42:56 -0700


>You guys are a laugh. This is the most ignorant drivel I have
>seen in this NG. If there were any valuable anything in the ground
>on a reservation, the Indians would be mining it themselves.
>You are making them out to be a bunch of ignorant savages, when
>in reality they are some of the most shrewd business people
>around. You insult them by your assertion.


<Lengthy reply snipped>

For a guy with a lot to say on the subject, you apparently can't read.

I never made that assertion you are claiming, nor did I even remotely imply
it. Yet you lump me into this category.

Improve your reading skills.

And just how, in your twisted logic, does the fact that many reservations
are doing well now justify the original actions? I know some wealthy Jewish
people. Did the germans do them a favour?




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Mohr)
Subject: Re: How to make wine access ports directly.?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 13:35:14 GMT

Miernik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I run a program under wine which controls my local PBX telephone
> exchange. It uses the COM2 port, but it accesses it directly. Linux
> doesnot allow wine to do that. What can I do?
Just read documentation/ioport-trace-hints

If you still experience problems, go to comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine,
as this group is much more appropriate.

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Andreas Mohr

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (zentara)
Subject: Re: SuSE root disk?
Reply-To: ""
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:57:22 GMT

On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:29:42 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hello,
>
>       I am trying to install SuSE and have downloaded all the files I want
>and the bootdisk {i didnot see any root disks, more on this later}
>and can boot with the bootdisk into the setup program.  Linux recognizes
>my harddrive and cdrom.  I am fine until i get to the start installation
>and select installation method.  I am installing from an msdos/win fat
>not fat32 partition at /dev/hda1. i enter this then I am asked for the
>source directory which is /suse. It then says it cant find image. is it
>talking about the root image that i have overlooked or kernel image. I
>have installed linux before, redhat, slackware, from the same partition
>before. Any one had this problem before, I suspect that there is a root
>disk somewhere but i cant find it at ftp.suse.com. Thanks Navi


There is no root disk for Suse. Just boot and rescue.
You need to read the instructions on Suse's site for
doing an "Installation via FTP", I think you have to
have an exact mirror of the suse directory on your hard
drive. Just having the files you want to install is not
enough.  

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