Linux-Misc Digest #587, Volume #18               Tue, 12 Jan 99 18:13:10 EST

Contents:
  re: RedHat 5.2 kernel upgrade problems (Frank Hale)
  Re: NNTP error (John Thompson)
  Re: ftp configuration problem ? (Luca Colombi)
  Slow Connectioon ("GREG C SIMS")
  Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Juho Cederstrom)
  Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Juho Cederstrom)
  Newbie To Linux..Questions. (Rage Matrix)
  Re: Where is the PATH (NF Stevens)
  Re: no ctrl-M in terminal (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: RedHat 5.2 kernel upgrade problems (Bill Unruh)
  Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Juho Cederstrom)
  Re: Anti-other-guys-os FUD (was: Anti-Linux FUD) (Roger Espel Llima)

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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: re: RedHat 5.2 kernel upgrade problems
Date: 12 Jan 1999 21:52:54 GMT

Tim Underwood wrote:
> 
> May have found an answer!
> 
> Have you looked at /usr/src/Documentation/modules.txt?
> 
> This describes using depmod to essentially tell the system where the modules
> are, and what dependencies they have.  I recompiled the kernel last nite,
> and had same problem as you.  Docs for recompiling the kernel I had said to
> check the above file.
> 
> The modules are in /lib/modules.  I had two directories, one for the
> original modules, and another for my new modules (old one was 2.0.36-0.7,
> and new one was 2.0.36)
> 
> I ran "depmod -a 2.0.36", rebooted, and modules started loading.  The only
> two problems I had were:
> 
> Did not recompile/install PCMCIA (I am testing this stuff on a notebook), so
> I just copied the modules/PCMCIA directory to my new modules.
> 
> Use an NE2000-like NIC, and there was no module named ne2000, the ne2000 was
> named ne, I made a copy to ne2000, and voila!
> 

I tried it but it still doesn't load the modules. Here is what my
/var/log/messages says.

Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Loaded 3305 symbols from
/boot/System.map.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.0.36.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: No module symbols loaded.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Memory: sized by int13 0e801h
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual
console (max 63)
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory
structure at 0x000fae60
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory
entry at 0xfb2e0
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10
entry at 0xfb310
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Probing PCI hardware.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 267.06
BogoMIPS
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Memory: 128020k/131072k available (600k
kernel code, 384k reserved, 2068k data)
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Swansea University Computer Society
NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for
Linux NET3.035.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Swansea University Computer Society
TCP/IP for NET3.034
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu
using exception 16 error reporting.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Linux version 2.0.36 (root@FranksPC)
(gcc version 2.7.2.3) #4 Tue Jan 12 12:15:52 EST 1999
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2 
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Serial driver version 4.13 with no
serial options enabled
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Sound initialization started
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Sound initialization complete
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: loop: registered device at major 7
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: hda: WDC AC36400L, 6149MB w/256kB
Cache, CHS=784/255/63
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: hdb: Maxtor 90680D4, 6485MB w/256kB
Cache, CHS=826/255/63
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: hdc: CD-ROM 24X/AKOv, ATAPI CDROM drive
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: hdd: CRW6206A, ATAPI CDROM drive
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, fd1 is
1.2M
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Partition check:
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel:  hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 >
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel:  hdb: hdb1 hdb2 < hdb5 hdb6 hdb7 >
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
readonly.
Jan 12 12:24:53 FranksPC kernel: Adding Swap: 56192k swap-space
(priority -1)
Jan 12 12:24:54 FranksPC modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10
Jan 12 12:24:58 FranksPC PAM_pwdb[206]: (login) session opened for user
root by (uid=0)
Jan 12 12:24:58 FranksPC login[206]: ROOT LOGIN ON tty1
Jan 12 12:24:58 FranksPC PAM_pwdb[206]: (login) session closed for user
root
Jan 12 12:26:06 FranksPC modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10
Jan 12 12:26:11 FranksPC modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10

As you see it says no module symbols loaded. Then it would even load
gpm. X windows didn't work either. System is useless at this point.

Man I have had alot of people giving me directions on how to fix it but
nothing is working. I am using RedHat 5.2 everything stock. I just
reinstalled 2 days ago because of failed attempts with 2.2.0pre6.

Once again thanx for your help.


-- 
From:      Frank Hale
Email:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:       7205161
Homepage:  http://members.xoom.com/frankhale/
Jade:      http://jade.netpedia.net/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    (John Thompson)
Subject: Re: NNTP error
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:59:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Can anyone tell me why I can't post anything to this newsgroup (or any
>other) using NS Communicator 4.07 under Linux (I get the message: "A
>News (NNTP) error occurred. Feedrule: Last matched rule was a reject") -
>all gobbledegook to me I'm afraid. I am posting this using Communicator
>4.5 under Windows NT 4.0.
>
> Would be grateful for any ideas :-)

That is a server error message and usually appears if the server 
detects html tags or binary material in a message directed to a 
non-html or non-binary newsgroup.  Since Netscape defaults to 
posting both text and html in a message this could account for 
the error you see.  Check to make sure you have netscape 
configured to post messages as plain text.

Follow-ups directed to ibmnet.admin.news

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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From: Luca Colombi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,uk.comp.ol.linux
Subject: Re: ftp configuration problem ?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:28:54 +0000


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Try to edit your /etc/hosts file and enter the following.

192.168.0.1   name1'machine@yourdomain  namemachine
192.168.0.2   name2'machine@yourdomain  namemachine
192.168.0.3   name3'machine@yourdomain  namemachine


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
> I am new to Linux. I have just installed, Red Hat 5.1.
> It is very stable !
> Now, I have created a little local network, 3 pcs:
>
> 1 192.168.0.1 Linux on it
> 2 192.168.0.2 W 95
> 3 192.168.0.3 W 95
>
> I have ftp, telnet and apache running. Apache works great. I have a problem
> with both ftp and telnet. If I type the command "ftp localhost", or ftp
> 192.168.0.1 from the Linux terminal itself, (samething with telnet) everything
> is fine, but if I do it from one of the W 95 machines, I instantly receive a
> message saying connected, but then it looks like "hang" for 1 or 2 minutes,
> until I see a welcome screen. If I try, WS_fgp95, for example, I never get
> connected.
> Does anybody have any idea of what is happening ?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Daniel Fernandez
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Montevideo,
> Uruguay
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own



--
Luca Colombi
System Administrator
The Hub Communications Co. Ltd.
The Farmhouse
Syon Park
Middlesex
TW8 8JF

Tel: +44(0)181 560 9222         Fax: +44(0)181 560 9333
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]       URL: http://www.thehub.co.uk



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<HTML>
Try to edit your /etc/hosts file and enter the following.

<P>192.168.0.1&nbsp;&nbsp; name1'machine@yourdomain&nbsp; namemachine
<BR>192.168.0.2&nbsp;&nbsp; name2'machine@yourdomain&nbsp; namemachine
<BR>192.168.0.3&nbsp;&nbsp; name3'machine@yourdomain&nbsp; namemachine
<BR>&nbsp;

<P>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hello,
<BR>I am new to Linux. I have just installed, Red Hat 5.1.
<BR>It is very stable !
<BR>Now, I have created a little local network, 3 pcs:

<P>1 192.168.0.1 Linux on it
<BR>2 192.168.0.2 W 95
<BR>3 192.168.0.3 W 95

<P>I have ftp, telnet and apache running. Apache works great. I have a
problem
<BR>with both ftp and telnet. If I type the command "ftp localhost", or
ftp
<BR>192.168.0.1 from the Linux terminal itself, (samething with telnet)
everything
<BR>is fine, but if I do it from one of the W 95 machines, I instantly
receive a
<BR>message saying connected, but then it looks like "hang" for 1 or 2
minutes,
<BR>until I see a welcome screen. If I try, WS_fgp95, for example, I never
get
<BR>connected.
<BR>Does anybody have any idea of what is happening ?

<P>Thank you very much,

<P>Daniel Fernandez
<BR>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<BR>Montevideo,
<BR>Uruguay

<P>-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
<BR><A 
HREF="http://www.dejanews.com/">http://www.dejanews.com/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own</BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp;
<PRE>--&nbsp;
Luca Colombi&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
System Administrator
The Hub Communications Co. Ltd.
The Farmhouse
Syon Park
Middlesex
TW8 8JF

Tel: +44(0)181 560 9222&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fax: +44(0)181 
560 9333
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; URL: <A 
HREF="http://www.thehub.co.uk">http://www.thehub.co.uk</A></PRE>
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From: "GREG.C.SIMS"@sjpc.org ("GREG C SIMS")
Date: 11 Jan 99 11:39:01 GMT
Subject: Slow Connectioon

From: "GREG C SIMS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:39:01 -0500
Organization: Prodigy Services Corp
X-Post-Time: 11 Jan 1999 11:38:16 GMT
X-Auth-User: 003085680/4621995173f0657f
X-Problems-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3

I just figured out to connect to the Internet with x-ISP.  but my connection
goes no where.  It's terribly slow. Everything freezes(telnet, netscape,
lynx , arena, etc.)
Any ideas on how to fix the speed problem?


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| Internet: "GREG.C.SIMS"@sjpc.org
| Fidonet:  "GREG C SIMS" 1:143/1111
|
| A service of the San Jose IBM PC Club, running OS/2 Warp 

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From: Juho Cederstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:38:51 +0200

Sean Maguire wrote:
> Nut cancer?  Is that a medical term?

Actually I really don't know. The orginal writer told that Linus
should get a nut cancer and die, and I told him that he should
get nut cancer and die. 

Nut is p�hkin� in finnish and cancer is sy�p�, but I really
don't know what is p�hkin�sy�p�...

-- 
 --  [ juhoc ]  -  [Red Hat Linux 5.2] -- >
--

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From: Juho Cederstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:53:53 +0200

Omni� wrote:
> I said create a file , from nothing

You can use also touch -command. Read Dos-To-Linux -howto (can you
read ? I suppose you can...) and see "man touch".

> well 10 minutes after a MSDOS installation I was cruising
> I didnt have a headache like I do with linsux

I didn't have headache when I first time run Linux. I readed
docs.

> and I agree at least my vcr looks better than x , and might I add 

Come on, install KDE or Window Maker and say that then...

> and I suppose he just typed mahjong (enter)?

Maybe he just pointed'n'clicked (tm) the Mahjong -icon.

> I cant even get to the CD drive
> I type  \dev\hdb andf I get permission denied
> and I'm supposed to be root

Well, you can't execute CD drive in Windows, why should you
in Linux ?

Have you ever heard about mounting ? No ?

> WTF???

RTFM!!!

> and no-one can screw up a win or NT instalation

I don't agree. Period.

-- 
 --  [ juhoc ]  -  [Red Hat Linux 5.2] -- >
--

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rage Matrix)
Subject: Newbie To Linux..Questions.
Date: 12 Jan 1999 13:28:43 GMT

Hi,

I installed RedHat 5.2 a few weeks ago on a spare 4.5Gb HD. It all seems
to work okay, althought X-Windows is a bit shakey. However, growing up on
MS-DOS and Windows 95, I have a few questions.

1. Is there any way to mount the floppy drive without being root user? It
is a little annoying to have to be super user to access the floppy drive.

2. What is Linux native file format and how to I use it? At the moment, I
have been saving files to floppy using mount -t msdos /dev/fd0
/mnt/floppy. Is Linux native file format accessible by Win95 so I can
share files between drives?

3. Has anyone else had problems using a Microsoft mouse with X-Windows? I
had to write a script (mouseconfig --kickstart --device cua0) to fix it.
However, I have to do it each time before I load X-Windows. Can I put it
in a startup script so it will load every time I load X? Also, mouseconfig
is a root file. How can I run this script as a user?

4. I have had some problems running X-Windows in a resolution greater than
640 x 480. I have a S3 ViRGE 4mb graphics card. However, when I specify a
greater resolution using XConfigurator, X crashes out with error 111.
Could this be because I have a 3DFX Diamond Monster 3D as a secondary
graphics card? If so, how do I fix it?

5. Where can I get the Linux Doom WAD? I downloaded the GZIP file only to
be told in the readme that I didn't have the WAD required to play the
game.

Sorry for the large amount of questions. Any help answering any or all of
the above would be great. I really like Linux so far, but am feeling a
little out of my depth, so if any of the above is stupidly obvious to
anyone, please don't flame me...I scare easily :)

Replies by e-mail would be nice, but since I observe netiquette, I do not
insist.

Thank you.

 -- Jon.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Where is the PATH
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:07:15 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>This I know... but one thing I'm still wondering about: Where's the path
>to my /sbin and /usr/sbin directories...?
>
>They are not in the global .profile or in $HOME/.profile. I saw some entries 
>in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit and tried to add /usr/local/sbin - but that had no
>effect. Was this the right place to look?

My /etc/profile has the following line

test "$USER" = root && PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH

The entries in /etc/rc.d files are for the initialisation scripts
that are run when the system is booted.

Norman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: no ctrl-M in terminal
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:11:52 GMT

In article <77gdd0$3dg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Could someone help me with the following problem:
>
>Sometimes, after killing a process or exiting my login shell with ctrl-D,
>(I can't tell the exact circumstances, unfortunately),
>I get a login: prompt which does not allow me to enter my login simply because
>it does not recognize <enter> as a special character. When I type my loginname
>(rene) and press <enter>, it just displays rene^M. So I am not able to log
>in on that virtual console any more.

Try ^J say CTRL+J ... you can generate a tiny script to to reset the
terminal ...
stty -g > reset.sh
... add stty to the front of the line and make it executable. On some systems
reset does not do the job quite right, this is the reason I use that.
[...]

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
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 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: RedHat 5.2 kernel upgrade problems
Date: 12 Jan 1999 22:41:28 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Are you  running kerneld? It is needed to load the modules.

ps aux|grep kerneld



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From: Juho Cederstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:44:26 +0200

Omni� wrote:
> ans have only just instaled redhat 5.2
> and cant even get connected to the net

Install KDE and try kppp...

> I dont even know how to create a file
> like the copy con command in dos

cat > file 
is same as copy con. But install KDE and try kedit or
joe or pico or emacs or jed or whatever.

> FUCK LINsux !!!

Has Linux teased you ? Oh poor man...

> ok linux is free so fuckin what
> I've never paid for a MS product either
> so whats the dif???

Now you are using something legally.


-- 
 --  [ juhoc ]  -  [Red Hat Linux 5.2] -- >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Espel Llima)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Anti-other-guys-os FUD (was: Anti-Linux FUD)
Date: 12 Jan 1999 22:34:35 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Kastrup  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas R. Stevenson) writes:
>
>You might be underestimating the market share of chopsticks.  I would
>estimate that more of them are produced/sold each year than are knives
>and forks together.

especially with the silliness of disposable wooden ones... talk about
wasting scarce ecological resources!  plastic _is_ actually good for
some things!

-- 
Roger Espel Llima, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/espel/index.html

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