Linux-Misc Digest #600, Volume #18 Wed, 13 Jan 99 14:13:17 EST
Contents:
Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case (Ian Smith)
Re: Resolution, Monitors, Other stuff Help needed please (Larry)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Chris)
Re: Resolution, Monitors, Other stuff Help needed please (Kristian Nielsen)
50MB www.yourname.com US$22 or HK$98 ("Ko Man Kit")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Jon Milliren)
Re: samba automount? install suid? (Bob Hauck)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (The Dog)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Peter Sch�ller)
32-bit FS mounting? (Chris)
Re: Install kxicq => no QT 1.4X found, but I've installed it !!! (Randal)
Re: mother board reviews?? ("gm")
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From: Ian Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:38:44 +0000
Netnerd wrote:
>
> I am not and never have been a Microsoft employee.
>
> I don't even go to their seminars.
So why do you post you "coverage" here. We can go and find out what is
going on for ourselves. Do you really think we are going to discuss the
"content" of your postings?
Well, if you want to type all that in fine, but watch out for
wank^H^H^Hriter's cramp.
Ian.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Resolution, Monitors, Other stuff Help needed please
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:57:20 GMT
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:14:39 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Please Help,
>
>I have a Gateway notebook with a neomagic graphics card, I have at last
>managed to get xwindows to start, with a resolution of about 1200 * 1000 or
>nearest correct resolution, Although when in this mode any backgrounds seem
>very dotty ie bad resolution or only 256 colours running or less, yet when I
>have to run Windows 98 I am quite capable of running the same resolution with
>16 million colours, what is the command to change this, any suggestions
>welcomed.
>
Start X with
startx -- -bpp 16 or 24 or 32
depending on the amount of memory on your video card. The higher the
color depth the more memory your card needs.
Anyway, this is what gives you all the megacolors. (:
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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:05:52 -0600
re: Subject
Thank god for that!!!!!!
Chris
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From: Kristian Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Resolution, Monitors, Other stuff Help needed please
Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:38:06 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I have a Gateway notebook with a neomagic graphics card, I have at last
> managed to get xwindows to start, with a resolution of about 1200 * 1000 or
> nearest correct resolution, Although when in this mode any backgrounds seem
> very dotty ie bad resolution or only 256 colours running or less, yet when I
If you want more than 256 colours, maybe you need to pass the "-bpp"
flag to the X server? Try a command like
startx -- -bpp 32 :1
from a virtual console. If you are using xdm (the graphics login
screen), I believe the way to pass this flag is distribution dependent,
Debian uses the file "/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers".
Hope this helps,
- Kristian.
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From: "Ko Man Kit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: 50MB www.yourname.com US$22 or HK$98
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:22:21 +0800
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From: Jon Milliren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:08:48 -0500
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, somebody wrote:
> > Linux will never be popular among most computer users
>
> probably. but it will inevitably become the backbone of all computing
> and information traffic. why fight it? your tax dollars have been
> spent for much of the research that is ending up in linux.
Thats the whole point. Those of us who make the attempt to grow
with technology will prosper. Did anyone ever get a job because they know
how to operate a coleco-vision?
> > Start that paragraph over...Linux cannot win out as the premiere OS, because
> > it requires a bit of thought and effort to use it. Linux is where DOS was
> > before Windows 3.0 came out(Socially speaking, that is) it's still for the
> > 'geeks'. It is beyond the Common User.
And that is fine with me... I am not the brightest light in the
chandelier but in the ONE AND ONE HALF YEARS i've been using Linux, I went
from being a telemarketer to being a system administrator at one of the
largest and most resepcted companies in my town. With that in mind, I hope
more people have that attitude, because that means job security for me.
> > Let it stay there. Let Windows have their market...in reality, Linux doesn't
> > even begin to threaten it, because 90% of MS users would die if they couldn't
> > install and configure it with a mouse, and call a toll number and be put on
> > hold for several hours while the MS Tech support guy looks up the answer to a
> > yes-or-no question. If Linux ever did win out as the Common Man's OS, how
> > bad do you think it would have become? Each version of Windows was dumbed
> > down from the last, do you really want Linux to be dumbed down enough to beat
> > any version of MS Windows?
Windows has it's place, on the desktop of the consumer. It is not
an enterprise-class OS. It is unreliable, slow, and it just doesn't do
things efficiently. Let the consumer have thier 'coleco-vison', it does
just fine there...
> linux evolves logically. it doesn't add features just to make a sell.
> linux will not be dumbed down. as new techniques arrive through
> research at universities and companies, linux will incorporate them.
Wait till those graduates start making IT decisions...
> i can sleep well at night knowing that information will always be free.
I sleep well at night knowing the same thing about the ignorance
of others...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: samba automount? install suid?
Date: 13 Jan 1999 17:55:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) writes:
> "installed suid root". It sounds like this means the smbmount
> executable runs as root, but I can't find how to make smbmount suid
> root. What command is used for that?
chown root smbmount
chmod u+s smbmount
> And where would I place the smbmount and smbumount commands so that
> the NT shares would be mounted at system startup? Thanks. -steve
/etc/rc.d/rc.local would be a good place. You will probably need
to specify a user (-U option) because the mount will run as root
and most NT systems don't have a user named "root".
--
10:45:00 up 42 days, 18:44, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: The Dog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 13 Jan 1999 10:42:24 PST
AMEN!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <76tk66$gf4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Alot of people wrote: Linux Rules, Linux Sux, Linux will win, MS will win.
>
> Well, I skipped most of them because I've been spending the last week getting
> situated in school for my first semester here, and I don't care to read 300
> posts that effectively can be summed up in the second line of this post.
>
> I will have my say on the subject though.(and most of it may have been said
> already)
>
> Bill Gates is indeed a genius. Bill Gates is THE Man, if I could be like
> anybody when I 'grow up', it would be Bill.
>
> Bill Gates is the Ultimate Businessman. Period, you cannot argue that
> point(well, maybe you can point out some other businessmen who were better.)
> Anyone who makes in the billions by selling Windows to the world like he did
> cannot be beaten in business. Windows is the ultimate in commercial
> software. You MUST have it. In order to use the latest software for
> computers today, you must have it. Never has so much demand for one man's
> product been so great in the history of the world. Only a Genius could have
> pulled that off.
>
> Now then Bill Gates came away from Harvard with infinitely more business
> sense than computer sense, as nothing he's written has been original or even
> better than average, and nothing his company has written has improved over
> the previous versions. (Who found Dos 3.2 difficult to configure? Yeah
> there were the Memory limitations, but it wasn't difficult to configure new
> hardware, or new software, unless you had Memory hog Software, which ten
> years ago was what, 512k?) And yet he's managed to sell SHIT for ten years
> straight, and lead the Market doing it. As I said, the man is a Genius.
>
> Now...Windows blows, we all know it(I have a split-partition so I can play
> games, and not much else with Windows). Windows leads the market, we all know
> that too. Deal with it, Windows will only be 'king' as long as there is a
> market for it, once people stop spending money on it, Windows will
> crash(Well..Windows crashing is a given, but I mean in a Business Market.)
> Windows can be stopped when people stop buying it.
>
> Linux However, cannot be stopped in normal business terms. Redhat? Yes.
> SUSE? Yes. Other commercial versions? Yes. But Linux itself isn't
> commercial, and cannot be crushed by an inferior commercial product, or a
> company that relies 100% on the sale of its products to survive. So, how can
> Microsoft possibly make Linux fight for survival?
>
> Linux cannot win out over all, though, and this is where MS comes in.(It's
> either MS or Apple, folks..or maybe OS/2, but OS/2 takes a little bit of
> thought and effort to install and use). MS shovels shit to the lowest common
> denomonator. The Folks that sent their first E-mail through AOL, and think
> they were soooo Cyberpunk, the folks that had trouble when their 'coffee cup
> holder' couldn't support the weight of their coffee mug, or people who think
> that a Virus is going to be GUI and announce itself before it hits them, or
> the people who buy the latest and greatest and fastest computers, most
> expensive so that their kids can do 'homework' using that great Grolier
> Multimedia Encyclopedia, (which had what..maybe 1k of actual information per
> topic, and millions of wasted k on grainy pictures and half-second sound
> bites? God, I'm glad I didn't pay for that disk).
>
> Linux will never be popular among most computer users
>
> because thanks to MS, 90% of computer users are people who should never have
> been allowed to buy them in the first place. Thanks to Bill Gates' Business
> Saavvy(SP?), he will always have a market with them by playing 'hey, we're
> normal people doing this' and feelgood commercials set to Rolling Stones
> music.
>
> Start that paragraph over...Linux cannot win out as the premiere OS, because
> it requires a bit of thought and effort to use it. Linux is where DOS was
> before Windows 3.0 came out(Socially speaking, that is) it's still for the
> 'geeks'. It is beyond the Common User.
>
> Let it stay there. Let Windows have their market...in reality, Linux doesn't
> even begin to threaten it, because 90% of MS users would die if they couldn't
> install and configure it with a mouse, and call a toll number and be put on
> hold for several hours while the MS Tech support guy looks up the answer to a
> yes-or-no question. If Linux ever did win out as the Common Man's OS, how
> bad do you think it would have become? Each version of Windows was dumbed
> down from the last, do you really want Linux to be dumbed down enough to beat
> any version of MS Windows?
>
> Mike
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I
> I'll tell you where you can go today. ,nInn
> \\V//
>
> All I can say is, damn it's hard to do a three line ascii middle finger.:P
>
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Sch�ller)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:56:43 GMT
"Omni�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >I submit that it's a FACT that Linux is "better" than DOS.
> >Name one thing DOS can do that Linux can't.
>
> I'm thinking...........
> 1)use debug straight from install (am I right? I'm sure you'll let me know)
I'm not sure what you mean by that.
> 2)turn the power switch off without fucking the system
Granted, you're risking damaging the file systems and other stuff if you shut
the computer off just like that, but that's an unaviodable limitation in any
operating system that's fairly advanced.
> 3)make bill gates rich
You can do that with Linux too. Just use it to make your electronically tranfesred
donation of $10 million.
> well you said one
> I think #3 counts , yes?
Yes, but you know what I meant in my original post. That wasn't it.
/ Peter Schuller
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris)
Subject: 32-bit FS mounting?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:31:51 GMT
Can I mount a 32-bit file system (95) in Linux?
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From: Randal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install kxicq => no QT 1.4X found, but I've installed it !!!
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:22:44 -0800
It's a typo. Should say qt 1.42 not installed. Some of the latest snapshots in
the kde lib need qt 1.42 to operate. Just go get the latest qt1.42 rpm and
install it then it should compile. I had the same problem and the typo really
threw me.
Randy
On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Michael Perry wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:30:52 +0000, Onion Ok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have installed KDE, therfore I needed QT-libraries, so I installed Qt
>>version 1.40.
>>Now I want to install a icq klone, I tired two programmes, one of them
>>is kxicq, when I do " ./configure"
>>they both say at the end: "No QT libraries version 1.40 or higher
>>installed, check your installation".
>>
>>What is the problem cause QT is installed, cause otherwise I wouldn't be
>>able to run KDE...
>>Can someone help me please?
>>
>>Thank you very much,
>> Jurrien Kok
>>
>You may have to point the configure script to the locations where the
>qlibs are installed. Do a ./configure --help I believe to see the options
>that configure takes.
>
>--
>Michael E. Perry
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "gm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] REMOVE NOSPAM to reply>
Subject: Re: mother board reviews??
Date: 13 Jan 1999 11:58:13 -0600
Reply-To: "gm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] remove NO_SPAM to reply>
for AMD, check support, services for motherboards
http://www.amd.com
Gary's encyclopedia at
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/motherboards.html
http://www.tomshardware.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article <77hlp5$lve$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I'm looking to buy some new components- one of which is going to be
a new mb-
> i'm kinda tossed up right now between a asus and a tyan- but have
been unable to
> find any source(s) for reviews of mother boards.. it seems as
though all of the
> magazines have left out reviews of the most important piece of
hardware-
>
> can any one help me find a source for reviews of mb's... i'd like
to look at
> others as well.
>
> thanks.
>
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