Linux-Misc Digest #609, Volume #18               Thu, 14 Jan 99 03:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: Resolution, Monitors, Other stuff Help needed please (Gary Momarison)
  Agent under WINE:  HELP (Taylor Sutherland)
  ftp question (Jinsong Ouyang)
  Re: K6-2 300 Problem (dallas s mahrt)
  Re: KDE setup problem...! *newbie question* (Tex)
  Re: Keyboard leds and status in X (AWing10651)
  Re: Fonts still microscopic on Netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux... (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (John Morris)
  Re: XFree86 libc5 or glibc? (Peter S. Frouman)
  Re: KDE setup problem...! *newbie question* (Goran Allerbo)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Colin Day)
  run levels ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: network gateway? (Robert Canright)
  Re: ftp question (Bob Hauck)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Bitbucket)
  Re: HELP!! (Josh Rusko)
  Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux... (Andreas Dilger)
  DOSEMU and the CDROM drive (Reinhard Karcher)
  Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux... (bill davidsen)
  Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case (Robin Becker)
  Seek help for LINUX invasy in Baltic states (Haralds)

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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Resolution, Monitors, Other stuff Help needed please
Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:15:18 -0800

Dela Lovecraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If you want to start X with the same amount of colours all the time (eg
> 24 bit), then make a file .xserverrc in your home dir, and type the
> following line at the top
> 
> exec X :0 -bpp 24
> 
> From then on, you should have 24 bit-planes whenever you start X.


Or for the many who don't use a ~/.xserverrc, add this:

DefaultColorDepth 24

to the appropriate "screen" section of your XF86Config file. Often
in /etc/ or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ .



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Taylor Sutherland)
Subject: Agent under WINE:  HELP
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 03:23:44 GMT

I just posted another message before about clear windows in Agent, but
now I have another problem.  It seems that all the information about
groups and whatnot, including the agent.ini file is stuck in my $HOME
directory rather than $HOME/c/Agent/ from where it was started.  Why
would that be?

latest WINE
SuSE 5.3
FreeAgent 16-bit

Thanks,

Taylor Sutherland

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jinsong Ouyang)
Subject: ftp question
Date: 14 Jan 1999 06:21:13 GMT

Is there any way to set a ftp site so that anonymous clients can access
stuff which are not under /home/ftp directory? I have tried to create
a symbolic link to some other directory under /home/ftp/pub. It doesn't
work. When you login as anonymous, /home/ftp is always treated as 
/ directory and any files not under /home/ftp can not be accessed.
Thanks in adavnce.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dallas s mahrt)
Subject: Re: K6-2 300 Problem
Date: 13 Jan 1999 22:28:52 GMT

I had similar problems w/ a K62-333 chip. When I was installing, I went to the RH web 
site and the stated that the install boot image didn't work consistently on K6 
processors. This is found at 

http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/intel/rh52-hardware-intel-3.html#ss3.2

I did install the Debian Distribution with no problems. 



-- 
Dallas "Big D" Mahrt      mahrt<at>cis.ohio-state.edu  
mahrtd<at>oclc.org        http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~mahrt

"Serenity now... Insanity later..." -Lloyd Braun, Seinfeld

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From: Tex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE setup problem...! *newbie question*
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:35:06 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hello,
> this is my second week using Linux  and liking it so far
> the firs two days i spent setting up X,  and the rest just trying to get
> on-line using pppd,
> now i'm stuck trying ot set up KDE,  wich is in my bonus CD,
> unfortunatly every time i
> use  package manager and try to install it i get this:
>
> qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdegames-1.0-1
>  libqt.so.1 is needed by kdegames-1.0-1
>  qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdenetwork-1.0-1
>  libqt.so.1 is needed by kdenetwork-1.0-1
>  qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdegraphics-1.0-1
>  libqt.so.1 is needed by kdegraphics-1.0-1
>  qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdeutils-1.0-1
>  libqt.so.1 is needed by kdeutils-1.0-1
>  qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdelibs-@VERSION@-1
>  qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdeadmin-1.0-1
>  libqt.so.1 is needed by kdeadmin-1.0-1
>  qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdemultimedia-1.0-1
>  libqt.so.1 is needed by kdemultimedia-1.0-1
>  qt >= 1.40 is needed by korganizer-0.9.9-1
>  libqt.so.1 is needed by korganizer-0.9.9-1
>  qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdebase-1.0-1
>  libqt.so.1 is needed by kdebase-1.0-1
>  qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdesupport-1.0-1
>
> I'm i doing something wrong?
>
> thanx

  You haven't installed qt 1.3 properly - do that first!

Once you have KDE installed you can use kppp which is included
in KDE to set up your ppp-connection to your ISP. Kppp is really easy.

/Tex


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AWing10651)
Subject: Re: Keyboard leds and status in X
Date: 13 Jan 1999 21:28:53 GMT


I am a newbie, but you might be able to change these settings in the system
BIOS.

good luck!


-Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fonts still microscopic on Netscape
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:23:37 GMT

In article <77hkun$57t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <77hdi5$vet$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have SuSE 5.3 and Netscape 4.5.  I couldn't compile xfstt myself (didn't
> > want to behave) so I got a binary from a friend.  It worked fine.  I
> > installed a bunch of ttf fonts and ran xfstt from .xinitrc and it works.
> > Netscape recognized all the new fonts I put into the correct directories,
and
> > they work. All the fonts *look* fine, BUT, they are super tiny!  So I
changed
> > .xinitrc to run xfstt --res 96.  No change at all.  I haven't tried starting
> > X with -dpi ***, yet though.
>
> That's odd. It looks fine on my display. Try setting Netscape's default fonts
> to Times New Roman and Courier New. Otherwise, it might still be using the
> postscript fonts as default. Some pages will still be squintfests depending
> on the HTML code. ZDnet is like that.
>
> > My screen is 1152 x 864 on a 17" monitor.  I would think that wouldn't bee
too
> > much of a deal...
>
> On a 17" you should run 1024x768 or less unless you want to go blind.
>
> s
>
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>

me likey go blind.  Ok, I'll try bringing the res of the display down.  Oh,
and the fonts you suggest, I had put as the defaults.  It's got to be the
screen size.

Thanks.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux...
Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:42:13 -0600

In article <9tXm2.920$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Phil Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>While Linux's MD feature can merge multiple partitions into one filesystem,
>it would be nice if a filesystem were smart enough to understand each of
>the partitions it is using and know how to add it in, or even remove it.
>Even an LVM for Linux is going to require changes in a filesystem so that
>the filesystem knows there are more blocks available to allocate, and has
>the allocation maps grow somewhere.  Will there be more superblocks?  I'd
>tend to think so.

I'd like to see a filesystem that let your logical mount point be a read/write
overlay of a read-only mount, possibly NFS or CDROM.  It would be nice if
the overlay had some caching and the ability to sync to a writable disk
and come back in the same state again but it would be useful even without
it.  You could then use the same system image for many machines (either
shared or copied) and still make the minor changes that give each machine
its identity without any other special provisions.  Has this been done
for Linux?  Does Coda do anything like this?

   Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Morris)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:54:59 GMT

> DOS was written by somebody else
>and Gates paid a measly $75k for it. 


I'm following this thread with interest.

I'm curious..... what was the "idea" with
developing DOS anyway??

I mean...... why couldn't have an operating system
like Linux be developed a LONG time ago and used
on the early PC's and DOS could have never
existed??

Was DOS the only way to get an OS on such machines
back then??

I mean DOS is an OS that has been stripped of
networking, multi-tasking, etc... right??

Bottom line..... why was DOS ever born anyway??

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: XFree86 libc5 or glibc?
Date: 13 Jan 1999 22:28:44 GMT

On 13 Jan 99 12:47:49 CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>directory. Someone told me that glibc = libc6. But I am still not sure as
>to what that means...glibc is newer than libc5 or what? I have downloaded
>both directories from the XFree86's ftp site. Which should I install given
>that I installed Redhat 5.2?

They were right. glibc is newer than libc5 and since redhat 5.2 is based
on glibc, you should install the glibc version. btw, there are
XFree86-3.3.3 rpms at ftp://rhcn.redhat.com/pub/rhcn/RPMS/i386/

-- 
-Peter Frouman | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zippy says:
Sign my PETITION.

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From: Goran Allerbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE setup problem...! *newbie question*
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:43:45 +0100

Tex wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > hello,
> > this is my second week using Linux  and liking it so far
> > the firs two days i spent setting up X,  and the rest just trying to get
> > on-line using pppd,
> >
> > I'm i doing something wrong?
> >
> > thanx
> 
>   You haven't installed qt 1.3 properly - do that first!
> 
> Once you have KDE installed you can use kppp which is included
> in KDE to set up your ppp-connection to your ISP. Kppp is really easy.
> 
> /Tex


I recommend some reading at  
http://kde.a1.nl/documentation/en/applications/kppp/index.html#toc3
it could make things even easier ...
/ga

-- 
Mr Goran Allerbo                          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carmenta AB                               Tel +46 (0)31 7755700
Box 31121                                 Fax +46 (0)31 246379
S-40032 Goteborg, Sweden                  http://www.carmenta.se/

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From: Colin Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:06:35 -0500

Robert Barnes wrote:

> jedi wrote:
> >
> > On 10 Jan 1999 15:52:07 -0500, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh) writes:
> > >> Windows is priced in line with other commercial OSs.
> > >
> > >redhat linux goes for $50 from the redhat people.  that is a
> > >*commercial* (although not proprietary) OS.
> >
> >         Actually, that version sells at retail for $30.
> >
> Actually, Redhat is free if you have the download time :)
> (I prefer to buy the CDs)

Also, Linux has much less restrictive licensing. One can copyand modify
more of the software than with Windows 95/98/NT

>
>
>   Doesn't anyone in this thread remember the IBM "monopoly"
> in the '60s?  They had over 60% (60%! not 90%) of the market and
> the DOJ came down on them so hard that the court case lasted
> for over 10 years.
>   The final solution was for IBM to separate their OS from their
> applications divisions.
>   Trivia question:  Did you know that IBM used to give out their
> OS source code to help developers write appications for their
> computers.
>                                                 -bob

  Colin Day        [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: run levels
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:16:22 GMT

so, what are these run levels? where can i find more info?

izraelita

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Canright)
Subject: Re: network gateway?
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:59:22 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Canright) wrote:

>I'm installing an ethernet card into a PC running Redhat Linux.
>I'm trying to hook it up to our network at work. On my Sun workstation
>I enter
>   netstat -rn
>and one of the entry lines says:
>device     gateway
>-----------------------------
>stuff        IP address
>default    number.num.num.1

>I am guessing that the "default" lline is the "Gateway", am I right?

>A friend of mine says I should enter
>  ifconfig -a
>and the last IP address, ending in .255, is the Gateway.
>He said Gateway  IP addresses always end in .255

>Any suggestions, comments?

I managed -- by trial and error to figure this one out.
Here's what I did:
nslookup "ip address from netstat -rn"
and nslookup gave me the name associated with the IP
address suspected of being a gateway.  "hub" was a 
part of it's name.  A ha!  That's it!

nslookup "ip address from ifconfig -a"
and nslookup said "no such animal"

-- Rob

>Thanks,
>  Rob




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: ftp question
Date: 14 Jan 1999 06:51:48 GMT

In article <77k2cp$79g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jinsong Ouyang) writes:

> Is there any way to set a ftp site so that anonymous clients can 
> access stuff which are not under /home/ftp directory? 

Changing the home directory of the "ftp" user in /etc/passwd
should do the trick.

Of course, you then need to move the stuff that's under /home/ftp
now in order to have it accessible in the new place, or even to
have ftp work right, so this probably isn't what you really want.


> I have tried to create a symbolic link to some other directory
> under /home/ftp/pub. 

Won't work because anonymous logins are chrooted to ftp's home
directory.  This is a feature (really).  Depending on what you're
really trying to do there are a number of alternatives.

If the stuff is on the same filesystem, and is limited to a few
files, you could use a hard link instead of a symlink.  This
doesn't work for directories though.

If the stuff is in a single directory tree, you could nfs mount
it to a mount point under /home/ftp.  Yes, you can nfs mount
directories to the same machine that's exporting them.

You could reverse things and actually put the stuff under
/home/ftp and put a symlink in the other places you want it to
appear.

You could use "guest" access instead of anonymous.  This
basically provides an anonoumous-like setup in an alternate
location.  See the ftpaccess man page for details.

Or, you could just log in to a regular account instead of as
anonymous.

--
 Bob Hauck, Software Engineer - Will program for food.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bitbucket)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:41:54 GMT

On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:05:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BKX) wrote:

>As far as demand goes, demand comes from people being as stupid as you
>are.  If every one was as smart as I am (IQ == 153) they'd be using
>Linux. But as far as being a genious, my IQ is still higher than
>Gates.  Maybe I should be named KING OF THE WORLD.
>BTW, you spelled disc wrong. (Grolier's comes on a CD not a floppy.)

>I don't know about you but I would hate being hated by everyone.

Something tells me you may become quite familiar with that emotion.
:-)

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From: Josh Rusko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!!
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:25:59 -0500

who | sort +4
(with space after "sort")
prints out a list of everyone logged in on the system, in order of how
long they've been logged in

Rachel wrote:

> Hi! Does anyone know what the command who � sort+4 does ?
>
> Thanks!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Dilger)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux...
Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:51:10 GMT

In article <9tXm2.920$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Phil Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>A hack I've used is to create a symlink called "MOUNT" in the root
>directory of each partition.  My "smart mounter" goes through all the
>partitions, first mounting read/only to take a peek at "MOUNT" and
>then mounts the partition as specified.  Thus if the partitions get
>moved around due to SCSI ID to device name relationship shifting, it
>won't affect what data shows up where.

Actually, a feature of ext2 filesystems is that they retain the last
mount point in the header of the filesystem.  In fact, you can
pre-set the last mount point on a new filesystem (mke2fs -M <mount point>)
in case you use this data to mount filesystems automatically.  I
believe it is relatively easy to extract the last mount point
information from the header, so you could skip the whole
"mount/check/unmount/mount" cycle just by looking at this.  Check
out the docs shipped with the ext2 library for more info.

Cheers, Andreas
-- 
Andreas Dilger   University of Calgary  \"If a man ate a pound of pasta and
                 Micronet Research Group \ a pound of antipasto, would they
Dept of Electrical & Computer Engineering \   cancel out, leaving him still
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/       hungry?" -- Dogbert

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reinhard Karcher)
Date: 12 Jan 99 22:23:14 GMT
Subject: DOSEMU and the CDROM drive

Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I am using DOSEMU v0.98.2 and have it working. However, I am not able to
>get games running that require that you have the CD inserted. IOW, I am
>getting a message along the lines of "You must insert the CD into the
>CDROM to play this game." I used lredir to mount the cdrom under the
>drive letter that it uses in DOS to no effect. Anyone have any ideas how
>to solve this?

Hi Dustin,
don't use lredir, try cdrom.sys in config.sys and mscdex in autoexec.bat.

Reinhard


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux...
Date: 14 Jan 1999 00:10:43 GMT

In article <77j7g5$1gbj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| I'd like to see a filesystem that let your logical mount point be a read/write
| overlay of a read-only mount, possibly NFS or CDROM.  It would be nice if
| the overlay had some caching and the ability to sync to a writable disk
| and come back in the same state again but it would be useful even without
| it.  You could then use the same system image for many machines (either
| shared or copied) and still make the minor changes that give each machine
| its identity without any other special provisions.  Has this been done
| for Linux?  Does Coda do anything like this?

There's a utility used in the X11 package which creates a shadow tree of
a filesystem, with slinks to to each thing in the original. When you
want to modify a file you copy the original and change that. I also seem
to remember seeing something like this in an issue of _SysAdmin_ which
combined this with something like RCS. A database based filesystem or
some such.

I'd like that, too, for shared filesystems, CDs, etc. I even *think* I
see how to do it, sometime this winter I may look at foing it.

-- 
  bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"Too soon we grow old, and too late we grow smart" -Arthur Godfrey


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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:32:26 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patrick A. Bryan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote in message ...
>>"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I am not and never have been a Microsoft employee.
>>
>>Then why did your post refer to Microsoft in the first person?
>>
>>"Finally, we are looking forward with great enthusiasm to putting our
>>witnesses on the stand," for example.
these the alpha, beta or release witnesses :)
>
>He was fantasizing...
>
>
>
>>
>>Thomas
>>
>
>

-- 
Robin Becker

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From: Haralds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Seek help for LINUX invasy in Baltic states
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:15:56 +0200

Hi!!!!

I`m linux fan aprox 1/2 year.
There are not natural MS monopoly in Latvija.
I wish break it and make support and reseller center.
For this I need help!
At start I Wish take part at exibition Baltic IT&T
(http://www.dtmedia.lv/).
But I have`nt so much money, partnership etc.


Haralds Degis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The fifth dimension
371 3436869



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