Linux-Misc Digest #608, Volume #18 Thu, 14 Jan 99 01:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: ethernet install problems (Robert Canright)
Re: * and dot files ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Zoom Modem ("Jeff Hill")
Re: Soundblaster under Debian 2.0 (Ramesh Natarajan)
Re: HELP - I need recommendation on Screen Saver (Johan Kullstam)
Re: command line bmp to jpeg (William Park)
Re: run levels (Dan Nguyen)
KDE "cannot connect to X server" ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jedi)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jedi)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jedi)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Richard Steiner)
Re: Please help - Mirroring (Frank Sweetser)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Canright)
Subject: Re: ethernet install problems
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:55:30 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scallica) wrote:
>>I click on "interfaces". I do an "add" to add interface eth0, but the
>>last item on the right inactive/active, I cannot get it to stay
>>active. I highlight the eth0 line, click on the "activate" button,
>>the display toggles to say it's now active, I save the settings and
>>reboot the machine, bring the window for network configuration back up
>>and I see that the device interface is inactive again.
>Hey,
> I had the same exact problem. That means that your eth0 configuration is
>messed up. Did you disable the PnP on the card (using the dos disk provided)
>before you installed linux??
> What you have to do is disable PnP, get the irq and i/o for the card, and
>enter it manually in the diagnosis program. Then linux
>should get along with it.
No, I haven't tried this. I didn't get a disk with the board, but
maybe someone else has it at work. Thanks for the tips, I'll give it
a try.
---- Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: * and dot files
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:56:53 GMT
In article <bcNm2.60$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael P. Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.unix.shell Pascal Rigaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I have to precise one or two things.
> : The purpose is not to clear the tmp!!!!
> : I know a lot of ways to do that thing.
>
> : The problem i have is, in general, how to take care of the dot files in the
same
> : way you would do with the normal files.
> : I mean, you know how to do things with *, why not have a way to do the same
with
> : no exception.
>
> : (i know one solution in bash would be to use GLOBIGNORE. But i don't want to
> : have it set by default)
>
> Dot files are meant to be hidden files. The asterisk wildcard is not
> supposed to catch "hidden" dot files.
>
> One common idiom is to use ".??*", which won't get files like ".a" or ".,"
> but that often isn't a problem. You can also use find(1):
> find <dir> -name . -o -print
>
> -Arcege
How about rm `ls -A`
Greetings
Rene Uittenbogaard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:56:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Who are you kidding. Bill was a failure. Until he stole the idea for a
> GUI interface from Steve Jobs, (look up the court case). Bill was
> there when Steve got the idea. Steve was dumb enough to share it with
> Bill. Then Bill gave Steve the MacroShaft. Bills advantage was that...
Steve Jobs didn't come up with the GUI either. He has openly admitted he
left his vist to the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center totally awed by the GUI
he saw there. Jobs and Gates both ran with someone elses idea. They are
both snake oil salesmen.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:59:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Con Tiki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Linux will never be popular among most computer users
> >
That's a great one-line to pull out of that post, you don't work for a
Newspaper or News station, do you?
> And I can safely say that windows never will either.
>
>
Windows IS popular among most computer users. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be
the top of the commercial OS heap. But as I explained in my previous post,
thanks to Bill G., most computer users now are spoon-fed dorks who can't even
read the instructions printed on the VCR about how to set their clocks.
People who can't read that Compact Disk Logo that is printed on the front of
their CD-Roms, and think that the retractable tray is like their car's coffee
cup holder, and in all reality have no business using computers.
Mike
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From: "Jeff Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Zoom Modem
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:37:20 -0000
I have a zoom 56k flex modem upgraded to v.90. It performs quite well but
sometimes it locks up. I then have to turn it off and back on again. This
gets frustrating because it is in another part of the building.
Any suggestions? Do I need a specific init string?
Jeff Hill
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From: Ramesh Natarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Soundblaster under Debian 2.0
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 03:47:30 GMT
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Hi,
Thanks to Taylor's pointer on rvplayer. After inspection, it turns out I have not
exported LD_LIBRARY_PATH. So its available to my shell but not to rvplayer. Iam
able to play stuff using rvplayer including live audio. But unfortunately cat
some.au > /dev/audio or cat some.au > /dev/dsp or saytime would it work. As
I mentioned before there is no error message either. (For example, if I do a rmmod
sound and try it, I get an error something like "operation not permited). I have my
/etc/isapnp.conf & cat /proc/sndstat included for your reference. I just do not
understand WHY!
Yes Colin, I have /dev/audio support enabled in Kernel.
I also got around the X probelm. Thanks to John, I did a chmod +s on XF86_SVGA
& that worked.
For some reason, after the XFree installatin, I had X missing so I softlinked it
myself. My make xconfig still does not work!
Thanks, nram
Taylor Collins wrote:
> > Iam able to play CD using workman. When I cat some .au to /dev/audio,
> > (or when I try saytime) I get no sound. I get no error either. When I do
>
> Your soundcard is initialized, else you wouldn't hear the audio, even though its
> only from the CD. It shows that your mixer alive. Try /dev/dsp and tell me.
>
> > rvplayer welcome.rm, I get some error like "Codec not
> > installed/Compression not supported".
> This is definately a RealPlayer configuration. Follow the instructions at:
> http://service2.real.com/solutions/RAP00901.HTM
>
> > I used to have RedHat 5.1 with sound working like sweat (using
> > sndconfig). Is there a similar tool under debian? (just wanted to be a
> > GNU purist for a while :)
>
> Try to see if OSS will solve your problem:
> http://www.se.opensound.com/
>
> > 2) When I try make xconfig for kernal config, I cannot select any of the
> > y/m/n options. I can input all text fields (like irq, IO) though.
>
> Good question. Might be related back to your previous problem? (libraries?)
>
> Got a question for you. I'm an electronics enginneering technologist who is
> currently unemployed. Any leads??? Huh huh??? Any??? Ok, it was worth a
> shot.
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name="isapnp.conf"
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filename="isapnp.conf"
# Board 1 has serial identifier d0 08 b1 12 d0 9d 00 8c 0e
# Board 2 has serial identifier 69 d1 bb e4 85 06 00 72 56
(READPORT 0x020b)
(ISOLATE)
(IDENTIFY *)
# ANSI string -->Creative SB AWE64 PnP<--
(CONFIGURE CTL009d/145822416 (LD 0
(INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
(DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1))
(DMA 1 (CHANNEL 5))
(IO 0 (BASE 0x0220))
(IO 1 (BASE 0x0330))
(IO 2 (BASE 0x0388))
(ACT Y)
))
# ANSI string -->Game<--
(CONFIGURE CTL009d/145822416 (LD 1
(IO 0 (BASE 0x0200))
(ACT Y)
))
# ANSI string -->WaveTable<--
(CONFIGURE CTL009d/145822416 (LD 2
(IO 0 (BASE 0x0620))
(IO 1 (BASE 0x0A20))
(IO 2 (BASE 0x0E20))
(ACT Y)
))
# ANSI string -->IDE<--
(CONFIGURE CTL009d/145822416 (LD 3
(INT 0 (IRQ 10 (MODE +E)))
(IO 0 (BASE 0x0168))
(IO 1 (BASE 0x036e))
(ACT Y)
))
# ANSI string -->U.S.Robotics Inc. Sportster 33600 Voice Internal <--
(CONFIGURE USR0006/3518751877 (LD 0
(IO 0 (BASE 0x02f8))
(INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +E)))
(ACT Y)
))
(WAITFORKEY)
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name="sndstat.out"
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filename="sndstat.out"
Sound Driver:3.5.4-960630 (Tue Jan 12 21:42:10 EST 1999 root,
Linux hagar 2.0.34 #8 Tue Jan 12 21:21:09 EST 1999 i586 unknown)
Kernel: Linux hagar 2.0.34 #12 Tue Jan 12 21:49:39 EST 1999 i586
Config options: 0
Installed drivers:
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Type 2: Sound Blaster
Type 7: SB MPU-401
Card config:
Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 5 drq 0,5
SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 5 drq 0
OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0
Audio devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.16)
Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL-3
Midi devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16
Timers:
0: System clock
Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster
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Subject: Re: HELP - I need recommendation on Screen Saver
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:05:11 -0500
matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking around the net for a good Screen Saver for Linux but I
> can't seem to find one. If anyone knows where to get a good screen saver
> for Linux, please let me know. Thanks.
there's always xlockmore. but most people do not use screensavers
with linux. screensavers steal cpu power which you might want to use
for background tasks.
i set mine up to first blank and later power-save the monitor after
inactivity. i leave my box up 24/7 so there's never any question of
if i left it on or off.
--
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Park)
Subject: Re: command line bmp to jpeg
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:03:18 GMT
Keith Kaple ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Anyone know of a command line program that will convert files from
: windows bitmap to jpeg?
If you have Slackware, install 'jpeg6.tgz', then
djpeg < x.bmp | cjpeg > b.jpg
--
William Park
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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: run levels
Date: 14 Jan 1999 05:43:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: so, what are these run levels? where can i find more info?
Look at your /etc/inittab
run level 1: Single User mode
run level 2: Standard run level for Debian GNU/Linux
run level 3: Standard run level for every other distro I can think of
run level 4: ?????
run level 5: ? on some systems, graphical login in others.
--
Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE "cannot connect to X server"
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:39:43 -0600
I finally got KDE installed, but every time i try to start it i get the
following:
Kcontrol: cannot connect to X Server
Krootwm: "
Kpannel: "
Kbgndwm: "
kfm : "
however when I try running startkde from WindowMaker Kfm starts up!
can some one help please?
also how do i set my PATH at startup?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:35:09 -0800
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:10:31 -0500, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>These folks have every right to use a computer as an appliance if they
>want to, the same way you or I might use a car or toaster or vcr without
They just have to get the PC and Windows to agree with
their wishes regarding the situation...
>thinking about or having to deal with its inner workings. I know people
>still using Win3.1 and aol, one an english honors student and another
>who owns and manages two businesses, because that works for them and
>they dont have the interest/aptittude to change to linux. I use linux
>everyday and think its a far superior operating system (arent the
>2.2.0prex kernels nifty). The kind of OS snobbery present in this
>thread/attitude seems to me to be an obstacle in the widespread adoption
>of linux that thank goodness the developers of gnome/kde dont seem to
>share.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> It is sad and true that MS Windows it the operating system of most people...
>> Let us put it this way... It is the operating system of the non elite
>> computer users, AKA Dumb Users... They want nothing but a nice, hassle free
>> way of computing, not caring that all their devices are on the same level and
>> left to duke it out, or that they can't setup the GUI differently... You
>> know, its dumb users who inspire shit like Windows, but as long they exist,
>> which will be forever, Windows will exist...
>>
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:36:21 -0800
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:22:30 -0500, Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Con Tiki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Linux will never be popular among most computer users
>> > >
>>
>> That's a great one-line to pull out of that post, you don't work for a
>> Newspaper or News station, do you?
>>
>> > And I can safely say that windows never will either.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Windows IS popular among most computer users. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be
>> the top of the commercial OS heap. But as I explained in my previous post,
>> thanks to Bill G., most computer users now are spoon-fed dorks who can't even
>> read the instructions printed on the VCR about how to set their clocks.
>> People who can't read that Compact Disk Logo that is printed on the front of
>> their CD-Roms, and think that the retractable tray is like their car's coffee
>> cup holder, and in all reality have no business using computers.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Let's be realistic here. MS didn't create stupid users. They existed
>already. Windows et al made computers so common, everyone seems to have
>one. That's why you see so many clueless users. It's like making cars
No, that was going on long before Windows became viable.
>accessable to everyone, you're bound to uncover people who can't drive
>at all. Some people just don't have any sense whatsoever.
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:39:03 -0800
On 14 Jan 1999 01:11:34 GMT, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <77icc4$p3f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>Windows IS popular among most computer users. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be
>>the top of the commercial OS heap. But as I explained in my previous post,
>>thanks to Bill G., most computer users now are spoon-fed dorks who can't even
>>read the instructions printed on the VCR about how to set their clocks.
>>People who can't read that Compact Disk Logo that is printed on the front of
>>their CD-Roms, and think that the retractable tray is like their car's coffee
>>cup holder, and in all reality have no business using computers.
>
>And you probably cannot design and etch a CPU chip, or rebore the
Figuring out why Windows95 insisted on allocating for that
new ISA card that had been taken out of PnP mode manually
an IRQ that was already taken by something previously
installed on the system while being a mild form of wizardry
is nothing like even debugging the software on a computer,
nevermind the hardware.
>cylinders on your car. Yet you use the CPU and you drive your car. There
>are levels of knowledge needed to get things done. Most people want
>copmputers to get certain jobs done. A computer is not some esoteric
>god. It is a tool to use. Although I probably know as much about
...which mere consumers fool themselves into thinking they
can modify much like some weekend auto mechanic can...
>computers as most here, there are often times when I want a simple step
>by step set of instructions to use whatever program. I do not have time
>to play around.
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:24:07 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>And what's the point of disparaging Gates' intelligence? He's
>obviously a very intelligent man. Like it or not, MS created the
>"personal computer" market.
I thought Apple created the initial mass public acceptance of personal
computers with the release of the very successful Apple ][ line?
And I thought IBM created the hardware and made the specs available so
other companies could clone the boxes and create a popular machine?
Windows rode on the coattails of the IBM-compatible PC, not the other
way around...
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
There once was a lady named Alice...
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help - Mirroring
Date: 13 Jan 1999 17:17:51 -0500
Kiwi C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please help. I been searching for a solution to mirror two harddrive in
> Redhat. I could do it with my sun station but not on Redhat. Please
> help. This is my third request any reply welcome.
> Mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
look into compiling your kernel with the MD (software RAID) drivers.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.0pre5ac1 i586 | at public servers
'Course, I haven't weighed in yet. :-)
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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