Linux-Misc Digest #630, Volume #18 Fri, 15 Jan 99 20:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: question: learning SQL on Linux (Jack Lenz)
tcplogd and icmplogd are one hour behind ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Switching to Windows 95 (Larry)
Re: Earthlink unfriendly to Linux (Bev)
Re: Sound problem ("George J. Potvin")
How to make a screendump under Linux ? (Frank Gramczewski)
boot disk (Main account)
Re: Obtaining + installing Linux (Q from linux virgin) (Bev)
Need Linux information for Research (Mike)
Put Linux on existing D parition? (Charles Packer)
Re: can't compile quota.h (NF Stevens)
Re: R/W CD as backup option? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (K. Spoon)
The Runlevel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DNS starter questions (Ramin Alidousti)
Re: Bash Programming Reference (Craig Kelley)
Too many names in /etc/group file... (Wes Yates)
Re: Emacs! Re: Easy UNIX editor (Edwin Johnson)
Re: Rebuild the S.U.S.E 5.3 Kernel ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Chris Bergeron)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Fellatio Is Good For Consumers (Dave Spillers)
webhosting on linux boxes (Frank Hale)
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From: Jack Lenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question: learning SQL on Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:05:57 +0100
Doug Sanderson wrote:
> I'm a C/Unix programmer, and I need to learn SQL. It would also be good
> for me
> to learn the C/C++ interface to SQL. I see Informix will run on Linux,
> but its
> apparently only free for a 30 day trial period. I also see lots of
> software at
> http://www.cs.cuhk.hk/pub/Linux/apps/database/sql. I'm running Redhat
> 4.2
> on a laptop (Sony PCG-812, 233 mhz, 4 gig, 64meg ram). I'm a little
> intimidated
> at the thought of being my own database administrator. What would you
> suggest?
>
> --
> Doug Sanderson
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> homepage: http://www.halcyon.com/dcs
As far as I know SYBASE is completely free. (www.sybase.com)
Jack.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: tcplogd and icmplogd are one hour behind
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:01:35 GMT
I have taken /usr/sbin/tcplogd, /usr/sbin/icmplogd, and
/usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon from Debian 2.0 and I installed these on a RedHat
5.1 box...
I took the /etc/init.d/iplogger from Debian and put it on RedHat 5.1 as
/etc/rc.d/init.d/iplogger.
Also, I have made the correct symlinks in the different levels:
[root@hermine] /root>ll /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S35iplogger
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jan 14 09:19
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S35iplogger -> ../init.d/iplogger
[root@hermine] /root>ll /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S35iplogger
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jan 14 09:19
/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S35iplogger -> ../init.d/iplogger
And everything works. The daemons are launched, and they write to
/var/log/daemon... But the only problem is that tcplogd and icmplogd are one
hour behind.
Here's what appears at the xconsole:
Console log for hermine
Jan 14 12:38:41 hermine tcplogd: port 65200 connection attempt from hermine
Jan 14 13:38:49 hermine PAM_pwdb[363]: (login) session closed for user root
Jan 14 13:38:53 hermine login: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM (null) FOR root,
Authentication failure
Jan 14 12:39:03 hermine tcplogd: port 65300 connection attempt from hermine
Jan 14 12:39:06 hermine icmplogd: ping from hermine
So, tcplogd and icmplogd are one hour behind. PAM_pwdb is at the right time (I
mean, the time that the date command shows.
I guess this is related to the zoneinfo definitions.
Here's what date says and the link where /etc/localtime points:
[root@hermine] /root>ll /etc/localtime
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Oct 22 18:15 /etc/localtime ->
../usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Brussels
[root@hermine] /root>date
Thu Jan 14 13:45:28 CET 1999
[root@hermine] /root>
Any ideas ?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:57:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Actually, some of the earliest computer games were written under Unix.
>
Didn't Unix start out as a game as well?
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Switching to Windows 95
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Jan 1999 22:13:34 GMT
On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:08:49 +0000, Phil Edwards
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>"John W. Rose" wrote:
>>
>> David H Hickman wrote:
>>
>> > repartition.
>>
>> Also (most important), don't forget:
>> Once Win95 is re-installed, delete your ``command.com'' file
>> in the c:\ directory.
>> Win95, being a true OS and not a GUI shell, does not need the
>> ``command.com'' file.
>> Win95 will run much better with that file deleted.
>>
>
>This I just *have* to hear...why exactly will Win95 "run much better" if
>I delete my COMMAND.COM from the root directory on my C drive?
Cause command.com is just a leftover file from the old DOS OS and
is no longer necessary on the new and improved TRUE OS of Winblows95.
IOW, it just takes up valuable memory that can be better used loading the
main bloatware. (;
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Earthlink unfriendly to Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:12:58 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Larry writes:
> > The problem here is more along the lines of: I was trying to get gas in
> > the car and when I switched on the gas pump a short in it caused the pump
> > to explode. I was accused of crossing the wires that caused the short by
> > sticking the nozzle in the tank.
>
> Better analogy: In the process of figuring out how to work the ATM at your
> new bank you accidently put your card in upside down. They accuse you of
> trying to sabotage the machine and close your account.
>
> Alexander Viro writes:
> > don't do things you don't understand if they can affect the rest of the
> > net.
>
> Any ISP that has their system configured so that a dialup user messing
> around with his mail configuration can "affect the rest of the net" is
> being managed by a pack of bungling incompetents.
(1) Earthlink, in spite of having many subseribers, has yet to make a
dime. They were expecting to actually hit black ink in the first quarter
this year, but now find it unlikely.
(2) Their customer service people have a really high turnover rate, such
that a new employee might become a supervisor within a year simply through
attrition.
(3) They don't offer shell accounts. When I sent email to their marketing
department Way Back When they first opened up, their salesdroid sent back a
rude message about what I should do if I wanted a shell account... Should
have forwarded it to Dayton, but I just deleted it.
I find it completely believable that some jerk would accuse somebody of
criminal intent who is merely funbling around in the dark.
--
Cheers,
Bev
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It is just a bicycle. It is not dedication and bugs
in your teeth and dust and rain and mud. It is not
madness and harmony and glory and rhythm. It is not
muscle and flesh and sweat and lycra and wind.
It is just a bicycle. -- Bianchi
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From: "George J. Potvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound problem
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:11:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:10:18 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >I am running RH5.2
> >
> >I am having a problem with an audio hum or buzz coming through my
> >speakers. This happens when I move the mouse on its pad or drag
> >windows arround on the desktop.
> >
> >I also notice noise from the keyboard, for instance when a key is held
> >down to repeat, the buzzzz or hummmmmmmmm will be there untill the
> >key is released.
> >
> This sounds not like a linux software problem. Are you sure the noise
> comes from the speakers ? Maybe you have a vibrating device standing
> on your desk, that responds to your activities ? I have a halogen lamp
> that also hummmmms sometimes.
>
> If the noise comes out of the speaker (switch it off for test) there
> may be a ground loop in your cables. Is the sound card connected to
> some other devices like a stereo amplifier ?
>
> /**********************************************/
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> /**********************************************/
I used to have this problem ,too. Until I opened xmixer and muted the line
in on my sound card...
george
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Gramczewski)
Subject: How to make a screendump under Linux ?
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:20:49 +0100
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May be this is a silly question but how do I get the contents of a
screen to a file. In other words how can I create a screen dump ? Is
there any command like "script" (this exists under HP-UX and Reliant
UNIX) ?
Furthermore I�d like to print a screen without running X11.
Thanks in advance
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From: Main account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: boot disk
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:15:34 +0000
Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 1 215 866848+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M
/dev/hda2 521 521 619 399168 5 Extended
/dev/hda3 216 216 232 68544 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda4 233 233 520 1161216 83 Linux native
/dev/hda5 521 521 619 399136+ 7 OS/2 HPFS
the above is output from running fdisk ( /dev/hda5 is NTFS ). when
setting up
a boot disk i ran a dd if=vmlinuz-2.0.31 of=/dev/fd0, but it didn't work
- the kernel
panicked because it couldn't mount the root filesystem. I re-read the
HOWTO and
ran rdev vmlinuz-2.0.31 and it said /dev/sda5, so i reset it with rdev
to /dev/hda4, redid
the diskette and it worked fine. However i am confused - i did reset the
pointer back to
/dev/sda5 before rebooting the machine because i had a vision of being
locked out.
Could someone take the time to explain the above - i am struggling to
understand how
my machine ever booted up into linux in the first place .
Many thanks in advance
Jon Marshall
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Obtaining + installing Linux (Q from linux virgin)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:51:08 -0800
Mark Swope wrote:
> I find that getting for a true newbie, getting one of the book/disk combos
> is a great way to get started. Once you've installed once you'll be past
> the book and can learn from the newsgroups and docs (not in that order!).
> Linux is documented extensively on the web. The only problem with this
> is getting a reasonably up-to-date distribution.
For the rest of January, Office Max is selling RedHat 5.2 (with paper book
+ some other books on CDrom) for $30 with a $30 rebate. Not bad for sales
tax and a stamp.
--
Cheers,
Bev
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
It is just a bicycle. It is not dedication and bugs
in your teeth and dust and rain and mud. It is not
madness and harmony and glory and rhythm. It is not
muscle and flesh and sweat and lycra and wind.
It is just a bicycle. -- Bianchi
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: Need Linux information for Research
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:23:31 GMT
Hello,
I work for a software company who develops alphanumeric paging
software. We (I) are currently in the process of porting our product
for the RS-6000 (AIX) to Linux. However this is being done without
official sanction. I need some good information to build a product
plan ( ie. stats on Linux instal base, what types of industries are
using Linux, growth rate of Linux etc...) so I can show the powers
that be. Does anybody know of some good web sites that might offer
what I'm looking for. I have some good info already, but I would like
some more and there is TOOOOOOOOO much stuff out there for me to wade
through it all.
Thanks,
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Packer)
Subject: Put Linux on existing D parition?
Date: 14 Jan 1999 12:59:32 GMT
I bought a used Compaq Deskpro that already has the hard drive
partitioned to a C and D logical drives. Am I going to be able
to put Linux on the existing D parition without disturbing
Windows 95 or anything else on the C drive?
The last time I put Linux on a PC was in '95, and I had to
repartition the whole drive and reformat it. Surely Linux
has become more user-friendly in the intervening years...
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: can't compile quota.h
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:25:14 GMT
Francesc Guasch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to use the quotactl feature, here is the program:
[snip]
#include <linux/types.h>
#include <linux/quota.h>
[snip]
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: R/W CD as backup option?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 17:15:37 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
>
>>It is hard to beat tapes for full system backups
>
>I disagree, try the following experiment to see why.
>
>2. Take 1 tape and 1 CDR and place them both in an oven at. say, 300
>degrees farenheight.
>3. Next take 1 tape and 1 CDR and place them both in close proximity
>with a strong magnetic field.
If that's the way you handle your backup media, well that makes
one of us...
>If you're just going through a restoration-of-faith ritual by loading
>a mag tape, waiting for it to spin, then blessing it and calling your
>data secure, then I guess I'd have to agree that nothing is quite as
>good as mag tape. <G> -steve
The way to handle tapes is pretty well understood. How do you deal
with getting full systems and any amount of data on CDR's? I run
2 DATs a night - maybe 10 or 12 Gigs... DVD-RAM might be an option
but CDR is just too small.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. Spoon)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 23:43:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jim wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Let's be realistic here. MS didn't create stupid users. They existed
> > already. Windows et al made computers so common, everyone seems to have
> > one. That's why you see so many clueless users. It's like making cars
> > accessable to everyone, you're bound to uncover people who can't drive
> > at all. Some people just don't have any sense whatsoever.
> The difference being, of course, that you have to demonstrate your
> ability to drive a car before you are allowed out on the road with one.
Not in all cases. In Texas, you only need to have certification that you
passed (ie, didn't kill anybody when the instructor was in the car during your
1 hour driving sessions) you driving course. After that, you can take the
written exam, and you're now licensed to drive.
Which is why insurance rates are so high here......people who can't drive can
easily get their licenses anyway.
--
K. Spoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Runlevel
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:53:49 GMT
Hi,
So what are these runlevels? Can anybody explain?
Thanks,
izraelita
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From: Ramin Alidousti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.admin.isp,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.admin,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: DNS starter questions
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:07:34 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well... I should say that you need to take a look at:
DNS and BIND, 3rd Edition
By Paul Albitz & Cricket Liu
3rd Edition September 1998
1-56592-512-2, Order Number: 5122
502 pages, $32.95
Ramin
Christian Rasmussen wrote:
> This messsage might appear several times, as I have tried to send it
> several times. Outlook express doesnt seem to work, but this hopefully
> work better!!
>
> Well, here is the mail:
>
> We have used a normal ISDN router for a year, some time ago we decided
> to get a permanent connection (is leased line the correct word?). Now
> we have finally got the connection established, we have also decided
> to have our own DNS server as well as our own mail server, web server
> and such.
>
> We had one .com domain and 2 .dk domains. The .dk domains was no big
> problem, but the .com domain wasnt very easy. Suddenly it was moved to
> point at our dns server instead of our former ISP. Unfortunately we
> realised that our dns wasnt configured properly. We had tested it a
> little bit, but as we had no experience it wasnt very easy before we
> had the line.
>
> We have both the primary and the secondary DNS on our LAN. The
> secondary is om the same time used as a masquerade server. Both
> servers run Linux Slackware.
>
> Well, when it finally pointed at our DNS we had a few suprises... we
> quickly corrected some of the errors, but didnt know that we had to
> update the serial so we just made the changes and restarted the dns.
> The result was that different dns servers in the world had different
> versions of our zone file...! also we didnt know that all the other
> servers get the info from our server the way they do, almost used all
> our bandwith!!
>
> finally some questions!
> How is it normally working when the servers around the world retrieves
> data from a dns server? All of the servers in the world does not start
> retrieving at the same time.. how is that controlled? How long before
> the constant traffic will cease? I guess it will never cease
> completely...?
>
> I read the DNS-HOWTO included in the slackware distribution, also I
> read the section about DNS servers in TCP/IP unleashed. It seems there
> is no completly correct way to do all the records?
>
> When do I have to use IN with my records? Is it a problem using it
> everywhere? Is $ORIGIN kind of a varible which works together with @ ?
>
> In the SOA record, sometimes all the rates (refresh, retry..) are
> specified in sec, and sometimes in hours, days and weeks too. Any
> compatibility problems using the last example? (a bit easier!)
>
> Any advantages/disadvantages in not specifing the complete dns name in
> each record so only the host is specified instead of host.domain.com ?
>
> When do I use A records and when do I use CNAME records? I read that
> CNAME records, for some reason, was not recommendable? Also I read
> that you can have more than one A record for each IP, which mean that
> A records can be used as CNAME records....
>
> The unleashed book gives the complete syntax for the records, it seems
> logical to just fill all the fields, but no one seem to do that?
>
> Anyone with an oppinion on how to set the rates in the SOA record
> (refresh, retry..)?
>
> If a DNS server has retrieved some incorrect data, can you somehow
> make it "refresh" the data (get some new) via an nslookup command?
>
> Do other servers use serial to determined when to retrieve an update?
> or is it only the secondary DNS server?
>
> well, this was all my questions in no particular order.. hope someone
> can answer some of them :)
>
> Greetings
>
> Christian Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Kelley)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Bash Programming Reference
Date: 15 Jan 1999 17:08:56 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rich Grise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
->Is there any such of a thing as a "This is how you write Bash scripts"
->document on-line anywhere? (Or did one come with my Slackware 3.3.0
->CD?)
1) Don't crosspost to inappropriate groups.
2) www.ora.com has a book about Bash
3) man bash
4) look at all the programs on your system already written in bash
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wes Yates)
Subject: Too many names in /etc/group file...
Date: 14 Jan 1999 13:38:03 GMT
I have been creating a script to add users automatically to the system. I know
we already have a ton of then--gui and the like, but I have a special
need, so I wrote a script. It works for me, but I want to add the user
to the /etc/group file and I have this:
belkcust:*:600:jmoody,wyates,tdayton,.......etc
Can I have the users in /etc/groups listed as:
belkcust:*:600:jmoody
belkcust:*:600:wyates
belkcust:*:600:tdayton
(etc)
or do they have to be on the same line?
I guess I could use sed or awk (whichever one is best) to append a new name
but I was hoping to make it easy.
Thanks a bunch!
Please reply email
-Wes Yates
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Crossposted-To: comp.editors
Subject: Re: Emacs! Re: Easy UNIX editor
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Jan 1999 14:03:17 GMT
Try jed or xjed - EMACS commands in a small program and _very_ fast.
...Edwin
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:03:44 -0500, Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Personally, I prefer NEdit. Simpler, faster, and lighter than emacs, yet
>> it has superior syntax highlighting and brace matching for programming
>
>I'll have to agree - far easier/less bloated than emacs. I use Crisp
>personally.
>
>--
>Paul Miller - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rebuild the S.U.S.E 5.3 Kernel ?
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:35:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:05:11 +0000, Ayoub Benbouzid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi all,
>Can any body give me the procedure
Well, it's all in the kernel howto's:
http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html
but here is my procedure:
log in as root
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
make dep; make clean
make zImage # depending on your machine this can take some hours !
make zlilo
(reboot with new kernel)
cd /usr/src/linux
make modules
make modules_install
the configuration of the new kernel is the actual work. The rest is only
time-consuming...
Anyway it's a good idea to read the howtos in detail. This is just a rough hint,
don't kill me if you get trouble !
Good luck
Eggert
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From: !@#@!#@#[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Bergeron)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 16 Jan 1999 00:03:07 GMT
Bill Gates made Billions of dollars selling a product that doesn't work. He
gets no respect in my book. Let the history books reflect this. Granted an OS
isn't an overnight project, but he could've at least not released it until it
was ready. Wasn't Windows 4.0 (aka 95) supposed to come out in August of 1993
or something... he missed his "deadline" and when it was "PSEUDO READY" he
released to the public for $90 US. In addition, he [Microsoft] attempts to
pollute every major standard out there by "TAMPERING" and adding
"ENHANCEMENTS". If he would stick to the DE FACTO STANDARDS, he might not be
such an asshole. However, if he were to do that, he would have competition,
and we all know that's not an option (pronounced: "buyout"). He's the ultimate
con artist if you ask me.
Chris Bergeron
http://msghss4.acns.fsu.edu/~bergeron
>
>Bill Gates is the Ultimate Businessman. Period, you cannot argue that
>point(well, maybe you can point out some other businessmen who were better.)
>Anyone who makes in the billions by selling Windows to the world like he did
>cannot be beaten in business. Windows is the ultimate in commercial...
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From: Dave Spillers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.fellatio.advocacy
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Fellatio Is Good For Consumers
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:05:05 -0600
> If somebody just does not like democrats for high taxes or prohibiting
> cannons
> from everyday use, this does not excuse asking a president under oath
> whether he
> had sex or perhaps masturbated near the oval office. To mention, the
> senators who
> will decide whether to remove Clinton from office or not, have not been
> asked
> under oath regarding their sexual fidelity. Should they have been?..
> Hey, what
> if they are not impartial?..
>
> Who knows -- maybe the public understands it damn well, although some
> *ambassadors* pretend they do not. By the way, if as you say all
> let-him-stay
> people (sixty something percent?) are also pro-Clinton and perhaps
> *bloody democrats*,
> why is there republican majority?
> Andrew
>
> PS. I am sorry for wasting the bandwidth and not going to answer the
> flames.
This is an opinion and you know what they say about opinions
Have you ever heard of personal acountability? What is wrong with you Clinton
supporters? What he did was not only wrong but against the law. Just ask LT
Kelly Flynn who was discharged from the Air Force for lying about a relationship
she was having. Clinton is the commander in chief and should be held
accountable the same way every man and woman serving in the armed services is.
Clinton is not the only person to have been questioned under oath about sexual
fidelity. Unfortunately, we don't have senators (Regardless of what political
party they belong to) with enough confidence in themselves to do the right
thing. I think there is going to be alot more people being questioned about
fidelity soon. (All Republicans, outed by Larry Flynt) What is comes down to
is simple...if you are willing to run for political office nowadays you are
probably corrupt. The good people out there that can make a difference don't
want their families to be put throught the ringer the way polititions are now.
This does not in anyway reflect the attitude or views of my employer.
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: webhosting on linux boxes
Date: 16 Jan 1999 00:22:20 GMT
Anyone recommend a web hosting company that uses linux as there OS? I am
in the process of getting my own domain name and a web hosting account
but I only want to get an account that is going to be run on a linux
box.
I have been looking at www.linuxbox.com is this a good company?
--
From: Frank Hale
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 7205161
Homepage: http://members.xoom.com/frankhale/
Jade: http://jade.netpedia.net/
"Excuse my english I went to a US public school"
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