Linux-Misc Digest #657, Volume #18 Sun, 17 Jan 99 09:13:36 EST
Contents:
Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist? (Frank da Cruz)
Re: no users
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Allan Olesen)
killing javascript in fortified netscape (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Anyone working on a Gimp-like sound app? (Jonathan Turner)
RE: [Root@localhost /root#] stuck. (cyberbabe)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Linux RAID5 Problems with 2.2.0-pre7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
searching for fvwm2rc file (Upali Bandara)
Re: specific newsgroup for S.u.S.E. ? (Paul Knudsen)
Re: R/W CD as backup option? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: chrony-1.0-2.src.rpm (Bill Unruh)
Re: Why isn't this simple script working? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Mike Stephen)
Re: securing a linux box (Ivo Naninck)
Re: 2.2.0pre7 boot error that won't go away (Ivo Naninck)
123 test 123 ("Patrick D. Rockwell")
Re: INN (Stefan Davids)
Re: I want my network card back ! (Ivo Naninck)
Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist? (Leslie Mikesell)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz)
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:08:28 GMT
In article <77p8q2$r4n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Christian Brideau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >I want to automate complete telnet sessions. In other words, logon-do
: >stuff-get out.
: >
: >Is this scriptable? If not is there a macro software out there that I
: >could use to perform this task?
:
: Kermit from http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ has a reasonable scripting
: language that works the same with serial ports or telnet sessions.
:
Right. This is a better solution than expect combined with regular telnet,
since it is self-contained, eliminating timing and coordination problems that
might occur between the two local applications, on top of whatever might
happen at the remote end.
A typical Kermit script for making a Telnet connection might look like this;
this assumes you already have the following variables set:
\%h = hostname
\%u = username on host
\%p = password for user on host
\%s = shell prompt on host (e.g. \13\10$\32)
Backslash followed by digit indicates an ASCII character value, so the
prompt example means "carriage return, linefeed, dollar sign, space" or
(in plain words) a dollar sign on the left margin.
These can be set in any of various ways -- hardwired into the script
(bad idea), prompted for interactively, taken from environment variables,
read from a database, etc. Here's the script:
set host \%h ; Make the connection
if failure stop 1 Connection failure ; Check for failure
input 30 login: ; Wait 30 sec for login: prompt.
if failure stop 1 No login prompt ; Give up on timeout
output \%u\13 ; Send user ID and carriage return.
input 10 Password: ; Wait 10 sec for Password: prompt.
output \%p\13 ; Send password and carriage return.
input 60 \%s ; Wait 60 sec for shell prompt.
Now you're logged in and ready to give system commands, for example:
output kermit -x\13 ; Start remote Kermit in server mode.
send neworders.txt ; Tell local Kermit to send a file.
if success delete neworders.txt ; Delete source file if OK.
get inventory.txt ; Download a file from the server
etc etc. When done:
bye ; Shut down and log out the server.
exit
The "exit" command automatically closes the connection.
This simple example should be enough to get you started. There's lots more;
loops, functions, arrays, etc. More info at:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckermit.html
- Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: osu.sys.linux
Subject: Re: no users
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:08:48 GMT
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:35:30 -0500, Tamas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi ,
>
>I am running RH 5.2 I used su command to change file security modes as
>an ordinary user. After that I could not login as ordinary user ( no
>directory /home/tamas!) . Fortunately I can login as root and I see
>that there is /home/tamas . I created a new user but I got the same
>message (no directory /home/proba )
>
>Should I install the whole system again or there is something I can do?
No, post the permissions of your /home directory and the permissions of your
/tamas directory. You have evidently done something to the home directory
that is not allowing you into it.
What did you change when you did su?
--
"I will have the most ethical administration in history."
Bill Clinton; Nov. 1992
Yeah, right....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allan Olesen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:58:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>*CAN* you grep in windows?
Just for the record: This posting is not a MS
defense/advocacy/criticism. I just want to eliminate the guessing
here.
Sorry for my Linux ignorance. My experience with Linux is one week
old, so I may have misunderstood the purpose of grep. Grep is the
function that can search several files for a text string, right?
You can do that in W95 too. It is part of the standard built-in file
search function, which can search for file names, sizes, dates and
text strings. But it cannot replace text strings (don't know if Linux
grep can), and it cannot be used from a prompt instead of GUI (suppose
that Linux grep can).
And Word97 docs (example used in another part of this thread) can be
searched too, if you have Word97 installed.
--
Allan Olesen
"Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue."
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Subject: killing javascript in fortified netscape
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Jan 1999 15:14:15 -0500
i have netscape 4.5 and i ran fortify overtop of it to enable the 128
bit encryption. it seems that i am now unable to disable javascript.
yes i know about edit/preferences/advanced and i turned off the
javascript feature. however, netscape still reacts to javascripts.
how do i really kill javascript once and for all? anyone else
experiencing the same problem?
--
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Jonathan Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Anyone working on a Gimp-like sound app?
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:19:27 GMT
Yeah, I'm interested in doing a multi-track sound editing package for
Linux. I am trying to learn how to get waves played and later queued and
edited. A plug-in package system, like the Gimp, was also what I had in
mind.
I do think it can be done. In fact, it could end up being what some of
the home studios move to. When move hardware hackers get interested, we
could get drivers made for the popular multi-track hardware that is
popular now.
If you are curious as to an example of what I had in mind, look at
www.syntrillium.com 's cool edit pro.
Jonathan
Gregory Propf wrote:
> I have looked in vain for a good sound editor for linux. Some of them
> are at least stable but all are fairly limited and non-modular in
> design. I was wondering if anyone was working on a Gimp type sound
> system for Linux? Something where you could create sound effects as
> plug-ins (hopefully NOT using scheme as the extension language).
>
> --
>
> -- homepage: http://members.home.net/gregp/ --
>
> "I wanted plutonium, not Beanie Babies..."
> - Sadaam Hussein, in a letter to Santa Claus.
--
Jonathan
"If you are not able to do the least, why are you anxious for the rest?"
--Luke 12:26
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From: cyberbabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Root@localhost /root#] stuck.
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:13:11 -0700
Hi..
Got Linux installed...however during the install it only asked me my
password and had to re-enter it again. Now it's installed and
booting...it's asking for Login..reading posts I figured out I can type
Root and then the password that I initally used during installation.
Everything worked except after typing the password, the "prompt" says
[root@localhost /root#] . I'm stuck I dont know what number to type..I
think I've tried entering everything in the book by que I bought..Please
help..
Login name???? Only a password...can't get in! Tried typing in Root and
it accepted with password, however now it asked for LocalHost
Login#...arrggh.
Thanks..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:20:13 GMT
>>I really do not see the big deal with rebooting a'la CTRL-ALT-DEL even if
>>I have to do once a day! I always save my data automatically. The worst
>>that will happen is that I'll lose 5 minutes of work! big deal !!!
>>I think the crashes things is over sold and is getting old and boring
>>to tell you the truth.
This is why Billy G can continue to build 'trash' that passes as an OS.
His users don't care if they buy an inferior product. They don't care if
they're getting ripped off.
>>is there nothing new the Unix/Linux crowds can say other than this????????
Isn't it enough? What an idiot!
--
"I will have the most ethical administration in history."
Bill Clinton; Nov. 1992
Yeah, right....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux RAID5 Problems with 2.2.0-pre7
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:14:41 GMT
I'm wondering if anyone has had any problems with 2.2.0-pre7 and creating
ext2fs partitions on a RAID5 device. For some reason when I run mke2fs on
the running raid device, it runs out of memory and kills the process. It
generally gets through about 600-900 magicblocks and then freaks out and
everything starts to run out of memory.
There is 128 mb's of ram on the machine, and another 128mb swap disk, but the
swap doesn't appear to even be being touched. kswapd is running, and dmesg
reports that it added the swap disk as one might expect. There are minimal
apps running (a couple bash sessions) but nothing very memory intensive.
Could this be a problem with mke2fs not wanting to make a partition >25 gigs?
Did I create the raid set properly (should I have used larger chunks?)? Is
this a bonafide problem with swapping and 2.2.0-preX ?
Linux zorak 2.2.0-pre7 #2 Thu Jan 14 20:46:53 PST 1999 i686 unknown
[root@zorak patrick]# cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [4 raid5]
read_ahead 128 sectors
md0 : active raid5 sda1 sdb1 sdc1 sdd1 26651520 blocks level 5, 32k chunk,
algorithm 2 [4/4] [UUUU]
[...]
[root@zorak patrick]# free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 128020 124968 3052 1320 102248 3100
-/+ buffers/cache: 19620 108400
Swap: 130748 3184 127564
[in dmesg]
Starting kswapd v 1.5
...
Freeing unused kernel memory: 56k freed
Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Upali Bandara)
Subject: searching for fvwm2rc file
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:22:22 +0100
Can somebody mail me a sample fvwm2rc file which I'll match to my system
then?
Thanks, Samuel sixteen year old Linux beginner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Knudsen)
Subject: Re: specific newsgroup for S.u.S.E. ?
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:07:24 GMT
I couldn't find any, so I started one!
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/suselinuxusers
Not a newsgroup, strictly-speaking but it has a message board. It's
new and pretty quiet so far but give it a look.
On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 00:56:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve
mcadams) wrote:
>Is there one? -steve
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Tools for programmers: http://www.codetools.com/showcase
===============================================================
SuSE Linux Users meet at: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/suselinuxusers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: R/W CD as backup option?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:30:25 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>One bad thing is on my CD-RW when I format a cd-rewritable it becomes
>like a 500 meg floppy. It looses 150 meg if I use it to rewrite too. Its
>good if your going to use it like a 500 meg floppy and archive small
>amounts of data. But for gigs of backup cd-r's and cd-rw's I don't think
>will cut it they are just too small. Its perfect for me cause I never
>back anything more than 650 megs at a time.
You can use the CD-RW the same as a CD-R and just erase and rewrite
the whole thing at once without losing space. This is good for
accumulating archive data so you always have the backup (rotating
through a few disks) but when the space is full you make the
final CD-R copy. This is time consuming but can be mostly
automated. I do this with some log files that I probably won't
ever need, but have to keep just in case. If someone ever does
want them I can just hand over the CD instead of having to
find the right position on a tape and extract it.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: chrony-1.0-2.src.rpm
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:37:25 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fred smith)
writes:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>: I ran RPM -ivh chrony-1.0-2.src.rpm and it gave the hash marks and no error
>: messages. Kewel. But then I couldn't find whatever it was I had just
>: installed. So I tried RPM -V chrony-1.0-2.src.rpm and it tells me the
rpm -q -p chrony-1.0-2.src.rpm
should tell you if it is installed.
rpm installs src files in
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES
by default. Not a terribly intelligent decision IMHO as everything tends
to get lumped together there
Also the format of the rpm is
rpm -V -p chrony-1.0-2.src.rpm
or
rpm -V chrony-1.0-2
( which is probably the package name, rather than the package rpm file)
Note that the -V command will give no output at all if alll files verify
OK
A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why isn't this simple script working?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:40:50 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fhurqaan Hamid) writes:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>Can anyone tell me why this *simple* script is not working? It is driving me
>>bonkers! (Yes, I made it executable):
>>
>>PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
>>export PATH
It will not reset the path in the shell in which you called this script
from It will only reset it in the shell which is spawned to run the
script (and its children), which is a bit useless, as that shell
immediately exits. You want to remove the first line ( the #! line) and
thensource this file instead.
source simplescript
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Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Stephen)
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:30:38 GMT
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:17:07 GMT
writes:
:>
:>On 17 Jan 1999 10:39:05 +0100, David Kastrup
:><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us
:>all with this bit of wisdom:
:>
:>>Ambassador KosH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:>>
:>>> who gives a rat's ass what the public thinks? the majority of the
:>>> people polled (not necessarily the general public) think clinton
:>>> shouldn't be removed from office, but he still commited crimes that
:>>> would get the average joe around 5-15 years or more in jail under
:>>> federal law. Just because part or most of the public likes the
:>>> person on trial doesn't mean that the law should overlook the issue
:>>> because they are popular.
:>>>
:>>> Netnerd wrote:
:>>>
:>>> > The latest consumer poll shows that 81 percent of consumers think Microsoft
:>>> > has been good for consumers, and 52 percent think the case was brought to
:>>> > help Microsoft's rivals.
:>>> >
:>>> > The poll also shows that 76 percent of consumers think U.S. District Judge
:>>> > Thomas Penfield Jackson should find Microsoft not guilty of violating the
:>>> > Sherman Antitrust Act when the trial concludes sometime in the next two or
:>>> > three months.
:>>
:>>One should be careful about believing polls too much. In this case,
:>>it turned out from internal Emails that not only Microsoft paid for
:>>the poll, but that Bill Gates also specified the percentages he would
:>>like to hear as results of the poll.
:>>
:>>It was somewhat embarassing for one of the independent witnesses of
:>>Microsoft to hear where this results he was citing were coming from.
:>>They should at least have informed him instead of letting him
:>>embarrass himself and them in that way.
:>
:>
:>You have your polls mixed up. The consumer poll was done independently
:>of Microsoft.
:>The poll that you are distorting was of developers. It was taken after
:>a presentation of Microsoft's side. The results weren't dictated by
:>Mr. Gates as you imply either.
:>
:>
:>"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
:> And with strange aeons even death may die."
:>- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon
here ya go.... the actual urls so that you too can read the truth,
A poll released last year was commissioned by Bill Gates, who wrote in
a
memo that "it would help me IMMENSLY [sic] to have a survey showing
that
90% of developers believe that putting the browser into the OS makes
sense.
. . . Ideally we would have a survey like this done before I appear at
the
Senate on March 3rd."
The survey results were cited by Microsoft witness Richard
Schmalensee.
When questioned about the poll by Boies, the economist claimed he
wasn't
aware it had created by Gates' cronies. Despite Microsoft's
sponsorship,
Schmalansee said the poll was not misleading. But the wording of the
poll
apparently raised eyebrows even with market researchers at Microsoft.
Boies also poked at Schmalansee for apparent inconsistencies between
his
testimony in this lawsuit and his previous writings on antitrust.
More here:
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2187848,00.html
Also, ZDNet's Charles Cooper says Boies is much more effective than
his
opponents from Sullivan & Cromwell. (Of course, they have the
disadvantage
of having a guilty client. :-) Cooper's article is here:
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/comment/0,5859,2187824,00.html
===============
"We have increased our prices over the last 10 years [while]
other component prices have come down and continue to come down".
-Joachim Kempin, Senior Vice President, Microsoft Corp.
>From the Desk of Mike Stephen
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From: Ivo Naninck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: securing a linux box
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:52:31 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
The short answer is:
www.xos.nl
> Yan Seiner wrote:
>
> What are some good references for securing a linux server from attacks
> via the internet?
>
> I want to block all ports except 22 and 80 on my internet interface, but
> want to keep my ability to telnet from the LAN.
>
> TIA,
>
> Yan
--
Best regards, and don't let the bits byte!
Ivo Naninck.
~
~
:wq!
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From: Ivo Naninck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.0pre7 boot error that won't go away
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:54:47 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
> Frank Hale wrote:
>
> I have 2.2.0pre7 loaded on my RedHat 5.2 box and everything is good
______________^^^_
Use it @ your own risk...
--
Best regards, and don't let the bits byte!
Ivo Naninck.
~
~
:wq!
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From: "Patrick D. Rockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 123 test 123
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:21:40 -0800
This is a test.
--
Patrick D. Rockwell
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Davids)
Subject: Re: INN
Date: 16 Jan 1999 21:49:05 GMT
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:58:02 +0000, Rick Dearman wrote:
> I can find a HOWTO for setting up the inn newsgroup thing on my box, can
> anyone point me in the correct direction?
>
If it's with demon I've put a guide on the web:
http://www.hopf.demon.co.uk/demon/innd.html
Let me know if anything's unclear/doesn't work
Stefan
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From: Ivo Naninck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want my network card back !
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:59:15 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Looks like a mistake with the IRQ of one of both cards.
look in your /proc/interrupts to see if you find both cards there.
> yongteck wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm running Red Hat 5.0 and learning Linux. I've always have my
> 16-bit-ISA ne2000 compatilble card working fine. Last week i've
> installed the SB16 module (the sound is fine) But i've lost my network
> card. Ive diabled the sound card but at boot up i'm having
> "Delaying eth0 initialiazation.."
> What and where should i change to initialise the ne2000 card again.
> Thanks
>
> Kim
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Best regards, and don't let the bits byte!
Ivo Naninck.
~
~
:wq!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:23:53 -0600
In article <77qrjs$4dn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank da Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Kermit from http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ has a reasonable scripting
>: language that works the same with serial ports or telnet sessions.
>:
>Right. This is a better solution than expect combined with regular telnet,
>since it is self-contained, eliminating timing and coordination problems that
>might occur between the two local applications, on top of whatever might
>happen at the remote end.
It's too bad more people don't know about kermit these days... Have
you considered trying to work something out so RedHat could ship
a copy on their Linux distribution at least along with the
commercial app demos? I'd expect it to be a win in terms of
book sales in the long run.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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