Linux-Misc Digest #657, Volume #21 Fri, 3 Sep 99 12:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: nonprinting chars in vi (Tony Green)
Re: Linux viewer for Windows .HLP files? (Jan Just Keijser)
Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron... ("Robert (Bob) McGwier")
Re: KDE: How to activate optional packages? (George Vlahoulis)
Re: REAL PLAYER in LINUX. Which ver. (Ron Gibson)
MRTG Gives funny graphs, and incorrect statistics.. (Ben Short)
Maintaining 2 Networks (Michael Starkie)
Re: Star Office 5.1: Is it just me ... (Steve Gage)
Re: unlink cputime (James Stevenson)
Linux and I2O? (Steve Browne)
Re: Maintaining 2 Networks (Tony Green)
Re: Maintaining 2 Networks (Michael Starkie)
Re: Star Office 5.1 and KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: *nix vs. MS security (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Re: Star Office 5.1 and KDE
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From: Tony Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: nonprinting chars in vi
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:45:29 +0100
Try ctrl+v then ctrl+m (Thats a form feed isn't it?) I am fuzzy on that
bit - but it works for me.........
TG
Martin Heiss wrote:
> Hi!
>
> It is maybe a stupid question, but i browsed the whole manpage an
> didn't find a clue (maybe im blind):
>
> How do I enter a character in "vi" by typing in its dec, hex or oct
> value?
>
> I want to add a formfeed (12, 0x0C, 014) to an ASCII-text - how can I?
>
> Thank you in advance
> Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Just Keijser)
Subject: Re: Linux viewer for Windows .HLP files?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:12:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, grant@nowhere. (Grant
Edwards) wrote:
>In article <7qmau3$pma$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eduardo M Kalinowski wrote:
>
>> Is there a Linux program that is able to view Windows .HLP files?
>>It doesn't have to be something very elaborated, if it just displays
>>the contents, and allow using the Index and the Contents, that'd help
>>a lot.
>
>Conversely, are there any tools that allow you to create
>winhelp files under *nix? I believe that winhelp is switching
>to HTML, so the question may become moot.
>
You can create WinHelp files using Bristol's HyperHelp (see
http://www.bristol.com/Products/hyperhlp.html for more details)
BUT
1. yes, WinHelp is switching to HTML
2. the files that HyperHelp produces can only be viewed with the HyperHelp
help viewer - ie although the same source files are used (RTF, PRJ, bitmaps,
icons, etc) the compiled help file is *NOT* cross-platform compatible.
HTH,
JJ
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Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for
the change to take effect. Reboot now? [OK]
My views are my own...
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From: "Robert (Bob) McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron...
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:19:38 GMT
Duhhhh. He said :
I disabled internal cache and enabled external cache last night and
^^^^^^
cat /proc/cpuinfo worked perfectly! I now have properly identified
Since when is enabled == disabled?
Greg Leblanc wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Artur Swietanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Stuart Hall wrote:
> [snip]
> > > When I boot from loadlin I got the uncompressing linux and the
> > > system hung for about 20 seconds when usually it just rips right by
> > > that notification.
> >
> > Exactly what could be expected. Internal cache works with full
> > processor speed, while with a 100 MHz bus speed, the external one
> > gives you very little speedup (if any).
>
> Uhm, no. He said that he disabled BOTH the external and internal cache,
> which would REALLY slow the system down. But that's totally irrevalent,
> since the P-II's cache has NOTHING to do with bus speed. It runs at 1/2
> the CLOCK speed of the CPU.
>
> >
> > HTH,
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Artur Swietanowski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Institut f�r Statistik, Operations Research und Computerverfahren,
> > Universit�t Wien, Universit�tsstr. 5, A-1010 Wien, Austria
> > tel. +43 (1) 427 738 620 fax +43 (1) 427 738 629
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>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Vlahoulis)
Subject: Re: KDE: How to activate optional packages?
Date: 3 Sep 1999 13:50:21 GMT
On 02 Sep 1999 10:57:08 -0400, Lam Dang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I used the rpm command to install
>Kmp3-devel-latest.i386.rpm as root. The
>target directory of this package was
>/opt/kde. But it wasn't obvious how to add
>this app to KDE the right way, so I copied
>the kmp3 files from /opt/kde/bin to /usr/bin
>and from /opt/kde/share to /usr/share by
>hand.
>
You have a couple of options.
1) create links to the directories you want
2) rpm has an option to set the target directory
read the rpm man page for details.
gv
>Please tell me the right way to do this.
>
>--
>Lam Dang
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: REAL PLAYER in LINUX. Which ver.
Date: 3 Sep 1999 15:13:21 GMT
On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:08:19, Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I have Caldera OL 2.2 with kernel 2.2.5. I am using Realplayer G2 alpha
> > > version. I had to install libstdc++-2.8
> > > though. You can download that as an RPM from Redhat.
> >
> > Don't have Red Hat, using Slackware and I haven't a clue as to what to
> > do with the alpha as the one I got has an exe extension.
>
> chmod 755 filename and run it. The G2 I downloaded (and which works
> with SuSE 6.1/netscape 4.51) has a .bin extension. Linux doesn't care
> :-)
Kewl and a 'puter lady too!. Heck I thought there was a mixup on naming
the file and renamed it with a tgz extension and tried to use MC to
expand it with no luck of course :(
I only resort to the tar commands when under extreme duress :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: MRTG Gives funny graphs, and incorrect statistics..
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 23:53:24 +1000
Hi,
After installing mrtg 2.8.8 (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) and cmu-snmp
3.6 for linux, the results I am getting on my website seems somewhat
strange.
My modem is connected to the net at the v.90 standard, and to test the
graphing abilities of mrtg, and proceeded to upload a file at about
3.2kb/s to an ftp server.
However, the statistics that are being generated by the mrtg and snmp
server leave me baffled:
Max In: 807.0 B/s (11.4%) Average In: 576.0 B/s (8.1%) Current In:
633.0 B/s (8.9%)
Max Out: 818.0 B/s (11.5%) Average Out: 604.0 B/s (8.5%) Current
Out: 660.0 B/s (9.3%)
>From that, it says I am recieving as much as I am sending, which is not
the case (ftp upload _only_, no downloads - traffic monitoring using
iptraf supports this), and the max should be about 3000 B/s, as indicated
by the upload speed on the ftp server.
What would be causing this misreporting?
Thanks
Ben
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From: Michael Starkie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.network
Subject: Maintaining 2 Networks
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:41:49 -0400
Does anyone have experience setting up their Linux host to exist on 2
networks. I have an ethernet connection to a LAN through my ethernet
card on one domain and a connection to a LAN through a ppp0 device
through another domain. Bot use dynamic IP addresses. Right now I have
to physically disconnect my ethernet card and reset my default gateway
using linuxconf in order to connect to the ppp0 device. When I want to
switch back to the ethernet I have to again reset my default gateway and
then reboot to setup my ethernet device. Wouldn't it be cool to be
attached to both networks at the same time?
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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office 5.1: Is it just me ...
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:47:08 GMT
"Spike!" wrote:
> I never used it long enough to see any instability... It was just too
> SLOOOOOW and drive-space hungry to keep... Wordperfect's all I needed.
No kidding. It basically wants to be its own desktop/shell, on top of
whatever else you've got going on.
> > PS O gawd! (he says, glancing over to his laptop that has now come
> > back to life with several zombies still reported by top), now it's
> > doing occasional disc accesses, about one every two seconds or so. It
> > does not do that usually.
> Probably swapping like med to keep up with StarOffice...
> :)
I stopped even experimenting with SO because I can't stand the constant
burping of my HD every 10 seconds!
- Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Stevenson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: unlink cputime
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:23:22 +0000
Hi
i was working with big files a bit a few days ago
when deleteing it takes some time
but a
rm bigfile &
so it goes into the backgroud
the directory seems to be locked whenever you try a ls
until the file is completely removed :(
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 04:16:33 GMT, Nicholas Dronen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robin Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: I asked before, but no one answered. Does unlink cause the ext2 filesys
>: to immediately process the removed inodes/blocks etc. so that removing
>: large files is costly. I find with the latest RH 6.0 that I seem to
>: notice the time taken for rm to remove big files (500Mb). I don't think
>: it was so intrusive under 2.0.37.
>
>All unlink(2) does is deallocate an inode from a filesystem.
>This doesn't necessitate a disk write. My understanding is that
>the device superblock is read into memory when its filesystem is
>mounted and the freeing of the inode is done there. At some
>point the superblock is locked and synced to disk, but I don't
>know what criteria the kernel uses for that.
>
>Ultimately the speed of an unlink probably depends on whether the inode
>of the file to be unlinked is in the inode cache.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Nicholas
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From: Steve Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and I2O?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:27:53 -0600
Do the latest Linux kernels support I2O? I'm planning to set up an I2O
motherboard (SuperMicro P6DLH w/ i960) if Linux can take advantage of
this system. Thank you.
Steve
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From: Tony Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.network
Subject: Re: Maintaining 2 Networks
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 15:46:07 +0100
Well, you can set your default GW using the route command - something like
"route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
When your finished you can do a
"route del xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
Or script it?
Michael Starkie wrote:
> Does anyone have experience setting up their Linux host to exist on 2
> networks. I have an ethernet connection to a LAN through my ethernet
> card on one domain and a connection to a LAN through a ppp0 device
> through another domain. Bot use dynamic IP addresses. Right now I have
> to physically disconnect my ethernet card and reset my default gateway
> using linuxconf in order to connect to the ppp0 device. When I want to
> switch back to the ethernet I have to again reset my default gateway and
> then reboot to setup my ethernet device. Wouldn't it be cool to be
> attached to both networks at the same time?
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From: Michael Starkie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.network,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Maintaining 2 Networks
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:50:25 -0400
Tony Green wrote:
> Well, you can set your default GW using the route command - something like
> "route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
>
> When your finished you can do a
> "route del xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
>
This doesn't really help because the default domain and name servers need
to be set. Also It doesn't allow for the host to be on the two networks at
the same time. Perhaps I need to configure my host as some sort of router.
What does gated and routed do?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Star Office 5.1 and KDE
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 15:20:51 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just installed Star Office 5.1, and the last thing the installer
> does is to say "updating your KDE desktop -- restart the desktop after
> this finishes" or words to that effect. When I restart my desktop
> there doesn't seem to be any change. No new menu items, no new desktop
> icons.
>
> So, can anyone tell me how to make Star Office appear as (a) an icon
> on the desktop toolbar, or (b) a menu item? At the moment I have to
> open a terminal window and start it from the command line...
>
> And in general, how do you set up KDE menu items and icons?
>
> TIA,
>
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> University of Brighton | -- see http://burks.bton.ac.uk
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>
I added star office icons to your personal applications menu (The box
with a heart). Pull up kfm (click on the house). Select
Edit->applications. You should see the StarOffice icons. Drag the main
Icon down to an unoccupied section of your kpanel (the toolbar). This
will place it on the tool bar. Right click on the kpanel icon and
select move. This will allow you to place the icon where you want on
the kpanel.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:07:37 GMT
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:26:37 -0400, Wayne Power <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Your 'professor' is a bozo, but it would not be useful to point this out
>to him. It should be easy to BS a good, but meaningless grade out of
>him. Nobody likes a bad attitude and meaningless grades will get you a
>job more easily than knowing your stuff. Don't ask me how I know this.
>
>I get regular USnail spam from a 'university' offering courses in all
>things MS. They don't teach computer science. My local major metro
>public school system has nothing but MS and computer courses are taught
>by math teachers who've never taken a computer science course or even
>seen anything but MS.
Everybody is _still_ assuming that because his prof said that Unix
is only used for lower-end, low security tasks, he somehow meant that
Windows is used for high-end, high security tasks. And that is
crap.
Ten years ago, Unix _was_ only used for lower-end, low security tasks,
and mainframes were used for business critical functions. Windows
wasn't in the picture at all.
Five years ago, Unix was moving into the business critical space,
but the mainframes still had a major lead.
Now, Unix has done a pretty fair job of moving into the business
critical space, but the mainframe is far from dead. (And they
are showing a surprising resurgence.)
So if his prof said that Unix was used for low-end systems, he
might be accused of being a tad out of date, but he wasn't
wrong. And all of this Microsoft bashing hasn't the slightest
relevence.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Star Office 5.1 and KDE
Date: 3 Sep 1999 13:09:28 GMT
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:55:55 +0100, John English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've just installed Star Office 5.1, and the last thing the installer
>does is to say "updating your KDE desktop -- restart the desktop after
>this finishes" or words to that effect. When I restart my desktop
>there doesn't seem to be any change. No new menu items, no new desktop
>icons.
>
>So, can anyone tell me how to make Star Office appear as (a) an icon
>on the desktop toolbar, or (b) a menu item? At the moment I have to
>open a terminal window and start it from the command line...
When you restarted the desktop, it should have added itself to the
menu under 'Personal'. If not, got to Panel-Edit menus
to add it yourself.
>
>And in general, how do you set up KDE menu items and icons?
>
>TIA,
>
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