Linux-Misc Digest #675, Volume #18               Mon, 18 Jan 99 07:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: How to print a man page? (Peter S. Frouman)
  Re: hard disk copy (Brian McCauley)
  Re: traceroute is using the wrong interface (Brian McCauley)
  Samba - StarOffice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: linux reports seeing only 15MB of 20MB installed (Peter S. Frouman)
  Siemens S5 interface driver needed (Henning Verbeek)
  Re: compiler for linux (James Knott)
  rexec? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case (Richard Corfield)
  X server conection ? (Daniel Wetzler)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Kastrup)
  Re: My partition choice (Michael Meissner)
  Re: My partition choice (Michael Meissner)
  Re: Question: Dial-in line only gives login prompt every second connection (Villy 
Kruse)
  RedHat 5.1 default security. ("mcv")
  Re: include files?  where? (Villy Kruse)
  Re: My partition choice (Radovan Brako)
  Re: Netscape time zone setting? (Villy Kruse)
  Re: Secuity hole with perl (suidperl) and nosuid mounts on Linux (Matt Sergeant)
  Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND  (Vihung Marathe)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: How to print a man page?
Date: 13 Jan 1999 10:59:23 GMT

On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:06:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hey dudes! I'm trying to print man page on ipfwadm , but i can't find how to
>do that :-) I found that man page on ipfwadm is in the
>/usr/man/man8/ipfwadm.8 file, but it has some sort of special formatting that
>is kinda difficult to read in emacs,vi, or KDE's kedit. Is there any way to
>print the man or xman page in it's original formating? May be i have to open
>than man page file in some kind of special editor? Please help me out dudes.

You can get a nicely formatted Postscript file from groff

groff -t -e -mandoc -Tps /usr/man/man8/ipfwadm.8 > ipfwadm.ps

If you have psutils installed, you can even print it in booklet form. 
The following will print 2 pages on each side so you can fold or cut it
into a booklet. 

psbook ipfwadm.ps |psnup -pletter -2 | psselect -e > even-ipfwadm.ps
psbook ipfwadm.ps |psnup -pletter -2 | psselect -o > odd-ipfwadm.ps

Then just print odd-ipfwadm.ps, insert the pages so they print on the
other side, and print even-ipfwadm.ps 

If you don't have psutils, you can find it at
http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ajcd/psutils/

-- 
-Peter Frouman | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zippy says:
Four thousand different MAGNATES, MOGULS & NABOBS are romping in my
gothic solarium!!

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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hard disk copy
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:41:24 +0000

Pasha Zusmanovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Brian McCauley wrote:
> > 
> > Zdravko Balorda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > how can I make an exact copy of a hard disk, along
> > > with boot sector etc.
> > 
> > Use "dd" on the devices.  Actually, AFAIK, on Linux you can use "cat"
> > or "cp" too but that's not as portable to other unicies.
> > 
> > > what if disks are not exactly
> > > the same?
> > 
> > Then the question is meaningless.
> > 
> 
> Not so meaningless, IMHO. Poorely worded, maybe. What people usually
> mean is to make exactly the same partition layout with exactly the same
> data on it. Very legitimate and often needed. 

You can't have the same partition layout on a disk which is not the
same size.  You can copy the file/directory structure.
 
> (And to answer an initial question - though it probably obvious - first
> do fdisk to create partitions, then do cp or tar to copy their content
> (yes, with /dev and everything), and do dd to copy boot sector if you
> are so inclined on copying everything). 

Copying the boot sector with dd pointless since the pointers to the
second stage loader won't be right unless the whole physical disk is
copied.

> > Anybody know why this question is so frequently asked?
> > 
> 
> See above :-)

There is, of course, a HOWTO devoted to this question.

> Pasha Zusmanovich    -------o x x "What i tell you three times is true."
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]          o o x L.Carroll, "The Hunting of the Snark"

Thanks, how did you guess I'd been trying to remember where that
quotation came from. :-)

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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: traceroute is using the wrong interface
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:57:14 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

There is already a current thread about this bug, please see my
answers there (or indeed any of my (or other people's) previous
answers) using a DejaNews (www.dejanews.com) search.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Samba - StarOffice
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:00:43 GMT

I've already posted one message but it doesn't seem to list, so here's
another go. Sorry if I end up double posting.


I'm a Linux Newbie, and I have just installed my first linux (redhat
5.1), and now i have a couple of questions. First of all: Where's the
'Start' button -  ;-) ? No seriously:

1. Anyone knows where I can find information on getting Samba to run?

2. Anyoneknows where I can obtain the StarOffice suite for Linux (the
free one)

'Little newborn penguin'
AceBone

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: linux reports seeing only 15MB of 20MB installed
Date: 18 Jan 1999 10:10:58 GMT

On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:17:19 -0800, J. Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>The initial boot screen (as well as KDE) report seeing 15 MB.  However, my
>system has 20MB installed.  Any thoughts as to why this is?

Perhaps you have the "memory hole at 15-16M" BIOS option set. Does the
BIOS screen show the full 20MB? If it doesn't, then maybe the 4mb module
is bad or something. If it does, you might try adding a mem= append
statement to /etc/lilo.conf and rerunning lilo. There is also a kernel
option for the memory hole but if you are running the original kernel, I
doubt you have this enabled.  That is all I can think of, but perhaps
there is some other potential problem I am overlooking.  

>My system is an IBM ThinkPad 350 (486 SL w/o FPU identified by Linux as a
>486 SX) with 20MB (the original 4 + a 16MB module).  I'm running Linux
>Mandrake (Red Hat) 5.2 (Linux 2.0.36).  If it's relevant, I have a 1.3GB
>disk--having shoe-horned RedHat 5.0, X, and a 20MB swap partition on the
>original 125MB drive there wasn't much space left.

-- 
-Peter Frouman | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zippy says:
Kids, the seven basic food groups are GUM, PUFF PASTRY, PIZZA,
PESTICIDES, ANTIBIOTICS, NUTRA-SWEET and MILK DUDS!!

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:21:06 +0100
From: Henning Verbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: hp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Siemens S5 interface driver needed

Hi,

I'd like to install linux on a Siemens CP 581 (generic intel-based PC,
sitting somewhere in a S5 rack). It's currently running under DOS with a
Siemens built driver, but for performance, y2k and stability reasons,
I'd like to switch to linux.

Does anybody know about reading Siemens S5 Data over the S5-bus ?

Thanx a lot,
Henning Verbeek

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: compiler for linux
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:45:20 -0500
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <q3xm2.27$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benoit Goudreault-Emond) wrote:

>Also note that the DOS version of TC++ 3.0 works quite well under dosemu.
>Since the DOS and Windows version are quite similar in compiler features,
>that would be an ultimate test.  That is, if you have access to TC++ 3.0...
>
>I remember doing this for some class that required the binaries (doh!) so
>the people could test them without having to even look at the code (DOH!).
>I wasn't pleased.  dosemu saved me.  I did notice a few glitches (the whole
>TC++ environment tended to crash if I ran the program and then tried to
>rebuild), but overall, I could produce a .EXE and submit it.

A few years ago, I was taking a C class, where they used Turbo C++ for
DOS.  At home I was using Borland C++ for OS/2.  For the most part 
things worked well, but I had to watch for stuff like different 
integer sizes.  On a couple of occasions I found this out the hard 
way.  For this class, I'd develop the programs on my home computer and
bring the source to class on a floppy.  I'd then compile under Turbo 
C++ and verify it worked properly, before submitting the source code 
to the instructor.

Several years earlier, I was taking a Fortran class, where we were 
using an IBM main frame and WATFIV.  I usually did my homework on a 
Vax 11/780 at work (no I didn't have one at home. <g>). Again for the 
most part things worked well, but you had to be aware of the 
differences.


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_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: rexec?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:24:33 GMT

Doesn't linux have rexec? Couldn't find the command or the man page. I need it
for remote execution of batch files.
Kindly email replies.
Thanks,
Khushro

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From: Richard Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case
Date: 17 Jan 1999 13:19:07 -0000

In article <#zRVoioP#GA.146@upnetnews03>,
Netnerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>                                [...] creating technology that's useful,
>easy to use, that people want, and making that technology available at an
>affordable price. [...]

Ha! Ha-Ha! <inane giggle>

<rant>

I've just spent a day tying to get Dial Up Networking working in
Windows95. I should have learned my lesson last time someone asked me
to help them with this. Anyone who says that Windows is easy, even 
intuitive, will just get laughed at!

The problem last time was with the telephony system. The user had
entered something silly into the ``Dial this first to get an outside
line'' and as this option was not on the normal panels used when
setting up it took ages to find it. Instead we just go the BT ``Please 
replace the handset and try agian voice.'' every time we dialed what we 
thought was a number that worked perfectly well when dialed on the
phone.

One of the problems that we're having with this one is that insists on
forgetting the user name and password to dial into the remove server
with. Both this and on testing my Windows installation suffer this.
We had at one time (now removed) a user account setup and found that
it insisted, no matter how many times we clicked on ``Remember
Password'', on dialing in with the account name that we'd ``logged
in'' to Windows with and a blank password. Even with the accounts
option removed it still insists on using information from an old
account. I knew that it was difficult to log into a network share
under Windows with anything other than the name you logged in to it
with but applying this to dial up networking as well!

Its a pain for the user to have to retype their account information
every time they want to dial up, but with Exchange V4 (strictly single
user, a shame on a multi-used Freeserve account) the user is not even
presented with the option of changing these settings when Exchange
dials in. We just get a message shortly after saying that it was
unable to connect to the remote computer and all of our outgoing mail
bounces.

OK so I've been using Linux and various Un*xes for years no so have
not been bought up with Windows, although I do think that I know
enough about networking to be able to set this thing up. My friend
here works with Windows administration and should be an expert.

If I had my way I'd just blow Windows off the system and install
Linux. Then I'd know that it had a properly configured and easy to use 
dialup system with a properly configured and easy to use mail system - 
and open standards to boot. Another concern with Windows is in the
choice of mail software. We want to be sure to get the right one first 
time as with prorietry mail box formats it seems that it would be hard 
to change our minds later. 

Windows is not easy to use, or intuitive. I've seen beginners have all 
sorts of problems trying to understand it, and accepting crashes as
normal and blaming themselves not the system when it doesn't do what
they want it to. I'm not alone in having wasted lots of time fighting
it trying to get it to do what I want. 


</rant>

 - Richard

Standard Disclaimer: My oppinions have nothing to do with my employer, 
or vice versa. erm...





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From: Daniel Wetzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X server conection ?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:45:45 +0100

Hallo,

I try to establish an x server connection betweeen a Linux system and a
solaris system but don`t know
exactly how to export the display on Linux.

export display <ip> didn`t work......

Does someone know how I handle this ?

Daniel


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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 18 Jan 1999 11:51:42 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh) writes:

> On 14 Jan 1999 11:30:18 +0100, David Kastrup
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us
> all with this bit of wisdom:

> >No.  He is halfway toward slandering the Consumer Federation of
> >America, and lending legitimity to a something paid for by an
> >"unnamed" source and conducted by a wacky organisation with the name
> >"Consumers for a Sound Economy" which advocate a Wild West economy and
> >state structure.  See http://www.csef.org
> 
> 
> Here in the US, what you deride as a "Wild West economy and
> state structure" we call freedom and liberty. It is quite
> instructional to hear that you hold such concepts in contempt.

While your concept of liberty might include cutting off public
education (like demanded by the CSE) and refusing to consider doing
anything about pollution (like demanded by the CSE), in the cramped
states of Europe people actually thing the freedom to choose your
education yourself and to be able to breathe are sometimes considered
more important.

Unfortunately, not all freedoms can be realized at all times.  The
U.S. idea of freedom means that everybody ought to fight all the way
as much for himself as possible, just like the ideals in the Wild
West were.

Over here, everybody can get a decent education even if his parents
are dead, poor, or let him down.  Of course, this requires higher
taxes and regulation as in your country.

People here have decided that the state being responsible for the
public in certain ways is worth it for them.  In some ways, this is
what civilization is about.

-- 
David Kastrup                                     Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]       Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany

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From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: My partition choice
Date: 18 Jan 1999 01:14:03 -0500

DaZZa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 17 Jan 1999, Ilya wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for clarifying - the machine will have 256MB of RAM eventually, and
> > 128MB when I get it. I guess I will have to have several swap partitions.
> > I am interested in a server-type machine. I don't know exactly what I will
> > be doing with it, but it is conceivable I might end up doing RAM-intensive
> > work.
> 
> As a general rule of thumb, swap space should be approximately twice your
> physical memory.

True if you are using BSD derrived systems that require all physical memory
have reserved pages in the swap section, not true if you are using Linux.  It
basically fairly simple, you need as much swap space as you will EVER need at
once minus the amount of physical memory (don't forget memory hungry compilers
and gimp apps -- I have a program that I cannot compile at full optimization
level and inlining everything without needing more than 512 meg of swap -- at
least that is how much swap space we had the last time we tried to compile it
two years ago on a Sun).

I'm a GCC developer, continually building the compiler and debugging it.  On my
home machine I originally had 48, then 64 meg of memory and definately needed ~
60-80 meg of swap at times, now that I have 128 meg of memory, I don't need as
much swap, though I have 2 128 meg partitions on this machine, and 3 128 meg
partitions on my work machine, just in case.

> So, if you're having 256 Mb of RAM, then 512 Mb of swap is OK - however,
> as others have stated, you'll need to do it over several partitions - 127
> Mb is the largest swap partition size Linux will allow.

Actually this is old information.  I believe the latest 2.2.0-prex kernels and
latest e2fs tools will now allow you to create swap partitions > 128 megabytes.

-- 
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED],    617-354-5416 (office),  617-354-7161 (fax)

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From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: My partition choice
Date: 18 Jan 1999 01:22:44 -0500

Ernst-Udo Wallenborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In my personal experience (SuSE 5.1->5.3 (currently) and 6.0 (planned))
> this was always the biggest problem after upgrades: personal setups,
> programs that ran within shell script wrappers, upgraded software,
> specialized libraries, and hacks like that. And based on this experience
> i'd say: Make a 128MB swap, put /home on a separate partition (~4GB), 
> put /usr/local on a separate partition (~3GB), install every tar.gz 
> emacs-update, python-beta or teTeX-990117 in /usr/local/ only, and 
> give / all the rest. In general, imho, things that are likely to change 
> simultaneously or not at all, or whose expiration date you determine on 
> your own justify a partition of their own. 

One technique that I use, particularly if you have the disk space, is alternate
root partitions the same size as the main root partition, moving user data out
to separate partitions, and a small /boot.  That way you can play with a
different installation and/or upgrade in the alternate partition and then
switch lilo to use that as the root partition when you are satisfied, but until
then you don't wipe out your working system.  It also helps when you blow away
your shared libraries and nothing runs (however many of the distributions now
support the concept of rescue disks for this case :-).  The /boot partition is
to allow you to move your root partitions anywhere and not be limited by
needing to keep vmlinuz under 1024 sectors.  I'm inching up to ~ 1 gig for root
+ /var + /usr partition size (currently 850 meg and 900 meg on my two
systems).

-- 
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED],    617-354-5416 (office),  617-354-7161 (fax)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Question: Dial-in line only gives login prompt every second connection
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:36:37 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
eli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



>Btw, anyone know a better term setting than vt100 to be using?  I
>thought I could just use ansi since that's what most people have their
>term programs set to but i guess ansi seems to mean something
>different to everyone (that seems very ironic to me).    The only
>problem i have with using vt100 for dialin lines is that it seems to
>leave a write background trail whever characters move (like when
>playing tetris or using pine etc).    Or should i just get users to
>set their own emulations in their .profile themselves and leave me
>alone :)




What most people considers type 'ansi' should be defined as TERM=scoansi
or TERM=xenix


TERM=ansi defines a terminal that is the common subset of the dec vtxxx
terminals and is not compatible with scoansi



Villy

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From: "mcv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 5.1 default security.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:29:39 -0000

Hi,
If I add a user to a RedHat 5.1 box, and they telnet to the system, will
they be able to cause any damage to the system, e.g. - delete files, run
config programs?
Cheers,
Mark.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: include files?  where?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:43:16 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Oo.et.oO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello-
> ...
>one would think that if you wanted to install gcc,make,etc with redhat
>RPM it would force you to install the standard C include files as well.  
>does anyone know why they are not there and what to do about it?
>I am talking about include files such as stdio.h and string.h
>BTW I don't have stdio.h on my machine at all!
>               kind of miffed here.  I hate distros!
>                       -eric

One might thank that ought to be the case, but currently it isn't.

You need at least glibc-devel and kernel-headers.  Possibly you'll need
other -devel packages depending on what your are developing.


Villy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Radovan Brako)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: My partition choice
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:39:48 +0100

In <77r94l$1o9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I'd like to know if this will work pretty well for a personal workstation
>and if I can improve this setup in any way. Redhat 5.2, 9.1GB hard drive.
>
>So far, I am thinking about this partition setup.  I will assume that the
>real capacity is about 90% of the pre-formatted 9.1GB capacity.
>
>/swap    512  MB
>/tmp     350  MB
>/usr     4096 MB
>/var     1648 MB
>/home    1024 MB
>/        512  MB
>/proc    48   MB
>
>I have pretty much made up my mind about /swap. What I'd like to know if
>1648MB is enough for /var and if I should decrease /usr to give /var more
>space or if this is OK. Also, is 48MB enough for /proc? 350MB for /tmp?
>
>Please post your replies, thank you.

   Probably a lot of this has been already said in other replies, 
   but anyway:

   1. Separate partitions are really necessary on multiuser or server
      machines, where there is a serious risk that a vital service will
      be starved of disk space while the machine is unattended. For
      personal workstations, it is often best to leave everything as
      a single partition, except, of course, swap.

   2. I think that the most recent stable kernel (2.0.36) still has the
      limit of 128 k swap partition. You can make two or more swap
      partitions though.

   3. /proc doesn't need disk space.

   4. If you still decide to make several partitions, the /usr partition
      you propose is huge, /var large, /tmp and /home smallish. Note
      that user data for all applications will reside in /home, temporary
      runtime data in /tmp or /usr/tmp.

        RB

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Netscape time zone setting?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:52:12 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Juergen Heinzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>ln -s /etc/localtime /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime might help if on a
>GNU glibc system
>
>Cheers,
>Juergen
>


Careful:  /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime points back to /etc/localtime,
to /etc/localtime should point to the real zoneinfo file, at elast
on redhat systems.



/usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime -> ../../../etc/localtime
/usr/share/zoneinfo/posixrules -> localtime
/usr/share/zoneinfo/posixtime -> localtime
/etc/localtime -> ../usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Amsterdam


On redhat systems use 'timeconfig' to set all this up properly.


Villy

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From: Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Secuity hole with perl (suidperl) and nosuid mounts on Linux
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:52:35 +0000

Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
> 
> Did I understand it correct: you chown/set-suid script.pl while it is
> in your laptop, insert it in a server floppy, and run user-level perl
> on it and it bombs?  How so?

Basically you have an ext2fs formatted floppy that can hold permission
information. Copy an suid perl script to the floppy, insert it into the
server, run "suidperl /mnt/floppy/scriptname" and BAM! - root access to
the server.

I think that's it anyway - I've not tested this yet.

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From: Vihung Marathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND 
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:53:18 -0800

Kevin wrote:

> Acutally, I thought he had a point, since most Linux users I've met have
> grand dreams of usurping Windows (98 *and* NT) and MacOS....which does beg
> the question.
>
> If Linux is *not* being shot at the "typical" home user, than you are
> quite right, "hard" is not the issue.
>
> I guess my point is, what is the goal of users of the Linux platform, anyway?

This might seem off the mark, but from my observations, the goal of Linux, and in
effect all Open Source Movement products is

    To try to minimise the entry barriers for infrastructure

The short-term commercial benefits of this alone are almost zero.

However the developers tend to gain benefits in different ways:
*    Firstly, short- to medium-term benefits from recognition in the developer
community.
*    Secondly, (and more important), long term benefits from selling services
based upon the infrastructure

The IBM-PC standard turned hardware into a commodity because it was openly
licensed. Similarly, Linux will turn the OS into commodity

This is achieved by creating open standards for systems developers, device
manufacturers, and applications developers.

The first people to rally under this banner were naturally techies, geeks and
hackers - who developed it to solve their own particular needs. The result is a
very stable, high-performance, low-requirement platform for server-type
functionality.

As the situatioin stands right now, Linux is not targeted towards, first-time
computer users, basic bread-and-butter (word processing, spreadsheets and e-mail
only) users, graphic artists, writers and other creative types, and mickey-mouse
programmers (Visual Basic/Delphi developers)

Now, the movement is gaining critical mass, and we should see more development in
these areas. There are already projects under way right now such as GIMP, Gnome
and the K project that might cater to some tech-savvy users in these fields.

Linux is not for the desktop ... yet.

Linux is already ursurping NT. It has the fastest growing user base, run on 54%
of websites, is already mimicing NT servers in the server rooms of many MS-only
shops (without their knowledge), and forms a significant backbone at most ISPs.

Considering that MS plans to phase out Win 95/98 completely in favor of NT on the
desktop, I think they have usurped their own product.

As for MacOS, you might be interested in this little peice of news - Apple's
MacOS X is essentially a Linux-like kernel (Well ... OK. It is actually FreeBSD -
which is born from the same philosophy as Linux) with a MacOS-like front end.

-- V


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