Linux-Misc Digest #688, Volume #18 Tue, 19 Jan 99 05:13:16 EST
Contents:
Re: Screensaver capture (Matt Morrison)
Re: How to make a screendump under Linux ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FoxPro for SCO UNIX & linux (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("WTH")
Hi, (zzzzz Remko)
Re: StarDiv's StarOffice Freezes on Setup (Bud Rogers)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Re: Diff between "S" & "s" in "ls -l" output? (L J Bayuk)
PPP Setup for Uswest.net Dial in ("d0om")
Re: Y2K motherboard clock (Villy Kruse)
Re: squid on linux connnecting to NT cache ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Michael Lee Yohe")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Michael Powe)
.info to .dvi -- how??? (&^*^%$&) (Charles Mulks)
Re: which distribution package do you recommend? (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Michael Powe)
[ newsgroups and moderation ] ("Michael Lee Yohe")
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From: Matt Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Screensaver capture
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:41:10 -0500
James Youngman wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I'd like to use some of the graphics from various screensavers installed on my
> > system (RH5.2, fvwm2) in some other work that I'm doing. Is there a way to
> > capure a
> > screen while the screensaver is running?
>
> Not an easy way that I can think of. But all the screen savers are
> separate programs. See the ouput of "rpm -ql xscreensaver| grep
> lib". They're not normally on your $PATH (as of Red Hat 5.2) but they
> can be run by giving the full pathname, for example
>
> $ /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/epicycle
OK, I answered my own question. Start up GIMP, and under the 'Xtns' menu is
'Screen Shot'. Run the screensaver of choice using the above path and it'll
pop up in its own window. You can then grab a shot of the window without
decorations and go from there.
--
Matt Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://webstu.messiah.edu/~mm1173
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to make a screendump under Linux ?
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 05:28:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Gramczewski) wrote:
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> Hi folks,
>
> May be this is a silly question but how do I get the contents of a
> screen to a file. In other words how can I create a screen dump ? Is
> there any command like "script" (this exists under HP-UX and Reliant
> UNIX) ?
> Furthermore I�d like to print a screen without running X11.
setterm -file $file -dump $tty
where $file is the filename...if omitted it names it screen.dump
$tty is the name of the terminal to print...if omitted it will print the
current terminal
That is what i have found..does anyone know how to bind this to a key so that
it will dump the current terminal? say like a telnet session that is running
in the foreground so that i don't have to switch to a different terminal to
get a printout
>
> Thanks in advance
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FoxPro for SCO UNIX & linux
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:02:35 -0600
Max Jerome wrote:
>
<snip>
> Al,
> I am going to set another foxpro unix up on linux this week. I will
> document it as I do it this time, and I will post it here.
I would be very interested in this.
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From: "WTH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:08:24 -0500
I wish all of those people hadnt bought computers in the first place. Ive
always felt that it is a hobby and shouldnt be easy. Thats what makes it
fun. I like to "tweak" and rewrite script files etc. Mess with my registry
and try to make my system run faster and more productively. I have no pity
for people who spent thousands and cant get their machines to run. Ill be
glad when they all go back to their cable TV and get off of the web.
Especially that webtv junk. Thats just criminal. I am sick of seeing all
these ads with www.ripoff.com, come visit us etc. Surf the web. This is why
I have gone to Linux. I wanted something that was versatile and had more of
a learning curve. Im not looking for "easy" Im looking for fun, creatiivity,
and preople who respect computers and know what net etiquette is. This NG is
better than most and I have learned a lot, but Ill be glad when the net
aint so damn popular again.
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comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux,comp.security.unix,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.security,comp.security.firewalls,comp.security.misc
From: zzzzz Remko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hi,
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:09:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi,
I am setting up a network server in a student home. This server, a linux
redhat with apache, is connected to a firewall to the internet..
I had some problems lately and found out that someone is trieing to hack
his way into my system...
His atack is diferent everytime..
Now my guestion is...
How can i test my system myselve..
I have one computer that is not behind the fire wall so i can hack
myselve in my own system-computer to test the fire wall.
A am lurning a lot but it is not easy, never told it was easy...
For me it is a project to get it running wihout problems, i was
managing ok sofar, until mister hacker came along.
I tried to get some programs. But most of the time hard to get..
Does anyone have some programs or links to programs that test ports,
sniff, maybe test ipspoofing problems, programs running on a port i
forgot about... Just a program that looks for holes...
Does something like that exist?
What do you recomend...
Maybe you can send it to me...
Thanks a lot..
Remko..
By the way is there a way to stop a hacker trieing?
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From: Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarDiv's StarOffice Freezes on Setup
Date: 18 Jan 1999 10:21:25 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm trying to install Star Office under RedHat 5.1 without any success.
> I've downloaded and uncompressed the program, but when I go to run setup it
> freezes on the very first screen before anything has appeared. It freezes so
> much that I actually have to hard-reboot the machine.
A couple of things can cause that.
1. Are you by chance running the S3V X server? There is a known problem
with that server. Later versions of the SVGA server will run an S3V card
fine, and run fine with SO5. If you have to run the S3V server, there is a
patch on StarDivision's website. Sorry I don't have the URL handy, but
it's not hard to find.
2. SO5 is glibc based. I don't know for sure, but I gather RH 5.1 is
libc5, yes? The necessary libs are included on the SO5 cdrom. There is a
script on the cdrom to install them in a non-destructive way, but it did
not work for me. I think the bash script is corrupted on the cdrom. There
are also instructions on how to install those libs manually. It's pretty
simple. I followed the instructions to the letter and it worked without
problems.
> I've tried the install under the admin account as well as my normal user
> account with and both had the same effect.
Look at /cdrom/english/prod_lnx/README. Get the glibc stuff installed
first and take care of the S3V issue if that's a problem. Then if you have
multiple user accounts on your box, run the setup script as root with the
/net option. Then for each user account that will be using SO5, run setup
again as that user and in their home directory. That should get you
going.
--
Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
have linux, will telnet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Reply-To: moc.cspma@llahd
Date: 19 Jan 1999 00:57:38 -0800
>At the moment, you are really making yourself look ridiculous, since you are
>trying to claim that if lots of people use something, that makes it a
>standard.
>
Unfortunately, he's right. Windows is a standard...more accurately, a
sub-standard. Most people are so convinced that computers are difficult,
that they refuse to learn about the computer...and Windows caters to that
mentality.
--
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Inexperience can be Overcome | Tangent / Madman
Ignorance can be Enlightened | moc.cspma@llahd
but Prejudice will destroy you. | backwards for less spam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Subject: Re: Diff between "S" & "s" in "ls -l" output?
Date: 19 Jan 1999 02:49:31 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Anybody know? The "ls" and "chmod" man pages say nothing.
"s" means setuid or setgid bit is set. Capital S means the
set-id bit is set, but the corresponding execute bit is not set (a
weird combination for files).
For example,
octal mode 2755 is setgid, and shows as "rwxr-sr-x".
octal mode 2644 is setgid but no execute, shows "rw-r-Sr--"
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From: "d0om" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,at.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: PPP Setup for Uswest.net Dial in
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 01:10:11 -0800
Hello,
I have PPP 2.2 setup on Red Hat 5 and have my modem working.
I can connect to one of my ISPs to the internet using PPP in Linux.
However, I cannot seem to configure PPP to connect to USWest.net.
If anyone has the ISP Uswest.net and can dialup to it in Linux, can you
please send me the chat script and the options you used?
USWest.net, of course, doesn't provide information on setting up a
connection in Linux, unlike my other ISP to which I can connect just fine.
Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Y2K motherboard clock
Date: 19 Jan 1999 10:05:26 +0100
In article <01be4337$302efa80$331110ac@warren>,
Rick OHair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Everyone claims that linux will run on 386's, but no one can answer my
>question about motherboard clocks and the Y2K problem with older hardware.
>Maybe one of you can help.
>
>I come from the DOS world, and am relatively new to linux. I know where to
>get a small resident program to load in the autoexec.bat to correct older
>system clocks for Y2K compatability, but I would like to know if there's a
>similar binary or daemon for linux.
>
>If there isn't, there's going to be a lot of old hardware tossed after the
>beginning of the new year...
>
When linux reads the hardware clock and get the year 1900 back it is smart
enough to add 100 years and get 2000. Same thing with good old SCOunix
3.2v4.2.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: squid on linux connnecting to NT cache
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 01:32:24 GMT
Gary,
Here's what I use for something very similar that seems to work:
cache_peer proxy.server.com parent 9999 7 no-query
where:
proxy.server.com is the name of my upstream filtering proxy server.
9999 is the port number on which the parent listens.
the no-query part can probably be different.
hope that helps.
grams
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary LaPointe) wrote:
> I've got a squid cache running wondefully in an elementary school (with a
> 56k line) bu now I want to connect/link it to an NT cache/proxy in a different
> building (which does my Surfwatch filtering) and I can't get it to work.
>
> Is anyone else doing this?
>
> I've tried a bunch of variations of
>
> cache_host my.nt.server parent 80 7 default
> (80 is the port I point a desktop to on the NTG box if I want it to
> filter)but it just doesn't filter.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Gary
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:27:40 -0600
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
>>At the moment, you are really making yourself look ridiculous, since you
are
>>trying to claim that if lots of people use something, that makes it a
>>standard.
>>
>Unfortunately, he's right. Windows is a standard...more accurately, a
>sub-standard. Most people are so convinced that computers are difficult,
>that they refuse to learn about the computer...and Windows caters to that
>mentality.
I really beg to differ. Amazingly enough - there are those who love Linux,
but also marvel at the wonders produced by finally getting a bunch of smart
programmers and business who know how to write code and give them powerful
tools to create powerful applications to do powerful things. I'm not a
Windows-worshipper nor a Linux-advocate. What I am is one who will actually
sit down and look at the last ten years of the computing industry and see
how far we come - this didn't happen because things magically became
reality. It happened because of standardization - under the Windows
platform - Mac platform - UNIX platform. Programming ten years ago wasn't
about portability - it was about throwing it together and making things
work.
Windows has done something what no operating system has been able to
accomplish thus far. It provides a powerful environment via API's - all
standardized so that programmers can use them, implement them, and produce
programs that beat older - thrown together code in all aspects. It's not
that Windows makes it easy for an idiot to use the computer. It _is_ that
Windows takes the re-inventing of the wheel out of programming. It's called
"maximum efficiency". And, it's being carried out by all types of OSes -
following of course by an obvious excellent example.
Linux is touching base with this - libc is that approach. MacOS has touched
base with this over the years but only until recently provided a
standardized development library for the OS. And so on and so forth.
Windows != IdiotOS. Windows == LearnedOS.
It's not as bad as you people would like it to be - we've grown up far
enough to "hold" such beliefs that the bohemoth OS is the bad OS.
-- btw: SunOS 5.6 is my primary OS - so please keep the flames down.
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Jan 1999 01:29:42 -0800
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>>>>> "Kirk" == Kirk 234 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kirk> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kirk> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> If you have so little respect for the form of the material you
>> post,
Kirk> And if you have any dignity or self respect, you would not
Kirk> criticize someone else's writing in public.
Hmm, more than a little judgemental, aren't we? Funny, how you
demonstrate exactly the behavior you're criticizing in him.
Kirk> It is not your job or anyone else to take the moral high
Kirk> ground on such issues on the internet. Feel free to do so in
Kirk> the privacy of your own home, but not here.
Nor is it yours, but you're doing it, anyway.
Kirk> This is a free form for anyone. People from varying
A free what?
Kirk> educational and background come here to discuss issues. No
Kirk> one has assigned you to be the judge of anyone else's
Kirk> quality of writings or the manner in which they wish to
Kirk> express themselves, nor are you or anyone else is expected
Kirk> to assign this task to themselves.
The fact is, the very substantial majority of contributors to these
forums are technically educated. A person like BillyBob just trolls
because he's bored and ignorant.
Kirk> People like you make me sick. Those who pretend and call for
Kirk> respect, yet they themselves show none.
Another demonstration of the old adage, "we criticize in others that
which we most dislike in ourselves."
mp
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Mulks)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: .info to .dvi -- how??? (&^*^%$&)
Date: 19 Jan 1999 02:17:47 GMT
anyone have a clue as to how I could convert
.info files into something a mere mortal might
find useful? -- probably .dvi, at which point
I can take over.
I would like to be able to print & read the stuff
re gcc, make, etc., but I'm finding the texinfo
approach fundamentally flawed and unusable.
TIA,
Charlie Mulks
PS: I have tracked down tkinfo - can this program
print the info files as well as diplay them.
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:48:54 -0600
M. Wimmer wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I collected some general information about linux on the internet, but
I must
> admit, that I am a 100% newbie in this field. I would like to "learn
by
> doing" about this powerful operating system.
> Can you recommend a distribution package?
> It should cost less than about 20 Euros.
> It should be run off my second, smaller SCSI - HD (Controller NCR
C810 is
> supported).
> It must support my Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM graphics card and
Panasonic CR
> 581-M CD-ROM drive.
> Maybe there is a package with a very comfortabel user interface?
> I am a medium experienced USER of Windows 95.
>
> Best regards and many thanks for your suggestions
>
> Manfred Wimmer
> Remove "no_garbage_mails_" from the adress to reply by eMail.
I began with Linux RH 5.0 that came in the back of the book "Learn Linux
in 24 Hours" by Bill Ball, from SAM's Publishing. It ran very nice. I
have installed RH 5.2 for myself and several friends. It, too, runs
very nice. While running RH I saw some info about KDE (an X windows
client) and loaded the beta-4 version onto RH. VERY NICE! It is what
WinXX is supposed to be.
Then, last August, I saw an ad for SuSE 5.3 which would include KDE 1.0
automatically installed. I decided to try it because of that, and
because it also came as a subscription for $34 US.
IMHO, SuSE 5.3 is much easier to operate than RH. YaST is a VERY
powerful tool to add or remove software and to change the system
parameters. I'm looking forward to SuSE 6.0. When it comes I am having
a License burning! I will be reclaiming the 800MB I reserved to dual
boot Win95. I have replaced all the Win95 software that was important
to me (Quicken, SkyMap, Mathcad 7.0 and some others) with Linux based
apps. Reformatting both my HD's and installing ONLY SuSE 6.0 is going
to be a very exiting and happy moment!
In the words of a great American whose memory we honor today: "Free at
last, free at last. Thank God Almight, free at last!" -Martin Luther
King Jr.
Jerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 18 Jan 1999 21:13:44 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>
>If you have so little respect for the form of the material you post,
And if you have any dignity or self respect, you would not criticize
someone else's writing in public.
If the writing is not to you liking or your preferred style, then
simply defer from reading it.
It is not your job or anyone else to take the moral high ground on
such issues on the internet. Feel free to do so in the privacy of your own
home, but not here.
This is a free form for anyone. People from varying educational and
background come here to discuss issues. No one has assigned you to
be the judge of anyone else's quality of writings or the manner
in which they wish to express themselves, nor are you or anyone else
is expected to assign this task to themselves.
People like you make me sick. Those who pretend and call for respect,
yet they themselves show none.
Kirk.
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Jan 1999 01:38:15 -0800
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>>>>> "Eric" == Eric Tremblay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Eric> oh... and in the first place DOS was designed to _sell_ not
Eric> to work. IBM got too impatient and decided to 1. go with the
Eric> shit 8088 processors that that Intel were selling them for a
Eric> 'better deal' and 2. go with Billy boy's "QDOS" excuse for
Eric> an operating system that was stolen from Seattle Computer
Eric> Products anyway. Then came the whole thing about IBM
I don't have a jones for Microsoft but I do might irritated at the
perpetuation of this falsehood. Gates did not steal the OS in any
way. If you can't make a case without resorting to falsehood, you
don't have a case to make.
mp
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Portland, Oregon USA
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From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [ newsgroups and moderation ]
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:38:14 -0600
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Since kids have found the Internet to be a popular hang-out these days,
we're beginning to see a massive over-population of the new-breed maturity
that I've been hearing about. Guys, seriously - if these people start to
grate your nerves, ignore the posts. I'm tired of sifting through
"corrections on grammar" and "requests for politeness".
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