Linux-Misc Digest #688, Volume #19 Thu, 1 Apr 99 18:13:12 EST
Contents:
IP forwarding situation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Slackware and XWindows environments (Richard R Urena)
Re: Q: S.u.S.E. 6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can I read a Mac disk? (Robert Heller)
Re: xosview and 2.2.x (Len Cuff)
ldconfig error - SuSE 6 (Len Cuff)
Re: Linux on a non-state-of-the-art PC ? (Markus Wandel)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are theLinux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? ("wayfinder")
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (John Thompson)
Re: Remove all headers lines except Subject and From? ("Cameron Spitzer")
Re: NetBSD/Linux (No advocacy) (David Burgess)
Re: help please!! ("Michael J. Parmeley")
Re: Linuxers play dirty? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: exchange client that runs on LInux (Carl Fink)
Re: Can't compile kernel-2.2.5 on rh5.2 (root)
Re: Can't open display (John Strange)
Re: After Step or X in general.. (root)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows - trees (the green ones) (Steve Conover)
Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else??? (Bob Hauck)
And I saved mine! ("Fertimport Porto Alegre")
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Shimpei Yamashita)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IP forwarding situation
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:43:00 GMT
Hi! Here's my network config...
Company workstations
|
| +--------+ ( )
+~~~~~~~~~~~~+ eth1| LINUX | +~~~~~~~~~~~~+ ( )
|NT 4 Domain1|<--------->|REDHAT |<------->|NT 4 Domain2|---->(Internet)
+~~~~~~~~~~~~+ |FIREWALL|eth0 +~~~~~~~~~~~~+ ( )
+--------+ ( )
2 NT domains with a Linux RedHat firewall in between.
I'm an NT Admin who walked into this situation with no knowledge of Linux.
What I need: Employees from Domain1 need to be able to access files and shares
in Domain2. These two domains can be set up as trusts. Also, users dialing in
to a server equipped with RAS in Domain2 need to be validated to access files
and shares in Domain1.
I know it's probably a simple operation, but I'm a Linux newbie, and any help
would be greatly appreciated. I've been told that what I need to do here is IP
forwarding. Is that true, and if so, how?
Thanks in advance...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard R Urena)
Subject: Re: Slackware and XWindows environments
Date: 1 Apr 1999 15:59:12 -0500
>This is not correct. Put the appropriate wm in ~/.xinitrc. E.g.,
Ooops, my mistake.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Q: S.u.S.E. 6.0
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:34:30 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:01:00 +0200, "Rolf Inge Stangeland Salte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>Any good?
>>Is it a good Linux too start from scratch with?
>>Please forward mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Yes it is. By April 19th version 6.1 will come out. It contains Kernel 2.2.3 and
> KDE 1.1. These can be updated on 6.0, however, with not too much trouble.
True. Did that already...
> Good Luck
> Eggert
>
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> Answers please in this newsgroup!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I read a Mac disk?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:10:51 GMT
Charon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:28:10 -0600, wrote :
C> I have Red Hat 5.1, is it possible to mount a Macintosh disk? Is so,
C> how?
C>
Yes, so long as it is a High Density (1.44Meg).
You have two options:
Fetch hfsutils and build and install them. These are a set of programs
like the mtools and will do I/O with Mac floppies.
Fetch the hfs file system module, build and install it in your
/lib/modules/2.0.24-06/ directory. Now you can mount a Mac floppy,
CR-ROM, Zip disk, or Jaz cartridge. It will look like a CAP or
AppleTalk volume (mount option) -- it will appear to have '.resource' and
'.finderinfo' directories.
I don't know off the top of my head where the latest versions of these
are, but there should be links off the Linux Documentation Project pages.
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xosview and 2.2.x
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:17:56 +0100
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Perry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>This libstdc is actually available at ftp.suse.com in the applix updates
>directory. Its needed by applix for a glibc install I believe but it should
>suffice for your needs also.
>
Michael,
Many thanks. Went there and found it and as an rpm ! (bonus !)
Installed and compiled 1.7.1 and all working now except xosview thinks
I've not got 24 IRQ's !!
Cheers,
Len
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ldconfig error - SuSE 6
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:21:11 +0100
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I've just installed a new libstdc++ file and got the following from the
rpm install -- can't open /usr/lib/libxml.so -- when I look at this
file, it's a link to libxml.so.0.0.0 which doesn't exist. Assuming that
I've managed to accidentally delete this file, where can I get it back
from ? Is it part of a library package ??
If I try ldconfig, I get the same error.
Cheers,
Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Wandel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Linux on a non-state-of-the-art PC ?
Date: 31 Mar 1999 17:17:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, T Ojala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi everybody,
>So, simply: is there somebody out there who is using Linux + Netscape
>on a platform similar to the first one mentioned? Did you spend months
>to get it running? Is it really running smoothly (ie can you really
>surf the net with it)?
Oh yes, to answer that other question.
The 486DX2/66 machine in question had a CD-ROM drive that RedHat recognized
out of the box (standard IDE, not on a sound card.) Installation was trivial,
just answer questions on menus, except for partitioning the disk, where you
should probably read the install guide to get an idea what partitions you
want and how big.
It recognized the ATI Mach32 video card and the mouse plugged into it and
set up X pretty much automatically. Netscape was there on the menu.
When I said earlier that you _need_ 1024x768, that's because some of the
windows that pop up are bigger than 640x480. It's very frustrating to stare
at the top 2/3 of the "Edit Preferences" window and have no way to reach
the "close" button! Maybe 800x600 would have worked, didn't try that.
What I never did find understandable was how to set up PPP, which you need
to dial up and actually surf the net. However KDE has a _very_ nice PPP
client where you can do _all_ the necessary setup from the GUI; despite
liking to think myself as a "power user" I use this because it makes it so
easy to switch between different dialup accounts (with different domains,
different name servers, and different authentication protocols.) KDE goes
as far as _editing_ system configuration files like /etc/resolv.conf
_temporarily_ to hide the underlying weirdness from you, and it really does
work. No harder than Wind*ws dialup networking anyway.
Markus
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From: "wayfinder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are
theLinux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:24:35 -0800
I'm noticing everyone talks about pretty icons but no addressed the "easy to
use" option which was mentioned first in this fella's mail.
I wonder why that is...
Dave Philips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>On 22 Mar 1999, Desmond Coughlan wrote:
>
>| Which would you rather have: an OS which is easy to use, with pretty
>| windows and icons, which crashes at least once a day, or an OS which
>| doesn't have the above, but which never crashes?
>
>My windows under AfterStep are very pretty.:) You hear all the time how
>linux looks bad and maybe it does out of the box. But linux gives you the
>ability to make it look anyway you can think up. I think this results in a
>much better interface then Windows.
>
>dave
>
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:32:26 -0600
Stuart Fox wrote:
> My argument still stands - a PROPERLY configured NT box will not blue screen
Perhaps so, but it appears that the people capable of
configuring NT "properly" so that it doesn't BSOD are
scarcer than hen's teeth...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remove all headers lines except Subject and From?
Date: 30 Mar 1999 15:40:16 GMT
In article <HhHL2.626$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone know of a way I can filter out all header lines in e-mail, and
>also perhaps newsgroup posts, except for the Subject and From lines?
Pipe the mail through this command:
formail -X Subject: -X From: -X Newsgroups: -k
The formail(1) command is part of the procmail(1) package.
An excellent piece of work, the kind you appreciate more the
longer you use it.
Cameron
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From: David Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: NetBSD/Linux (No advocacy)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:33:16 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
THe only issue you might run into problems with this setup would be a
poor performance issue between the two machines for some network
communications. You can fix this on the NetBSD side by using
'sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0'.
This turns off the rfc1323 feature in NetBSD's TCP networking and allows
Linux (and several other systems) to work reliably again.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I recently came upon a deal to get a DECStation for cheap. I know I can run
> NetBSD on it, and I plan to do it basically just for interest sake. I already
> have an x86 running Linux and I'd like to network them. Are there any issues
> I should be aware of? Is there an advantage to installing NetBSD on my x86
> (Can NetBSD dual Boot w/ linux and /or m$ windoze) Sorry, I'm a NetBSD virgin
> here.
>
> TIA
>
> Jeremy M. Draude
>
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From: "Michael J. Parmeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help please!!
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:17:02 -0600
Hello,
Hmm...it looks like it compiles ok. I would suggest that you download a
earlier version of the 2.2.x kernel and then try again. This way you
can see if it is a problem specific to 2.2.5 or all of the 2.2.x
kernels. Because 2.2.1 broke my ESS sound card but then it was fixed
with 2.2.2. So it could very well be just a problem with 2.2.5.
If you do go back to 2.0.36 and you want to use your zip drive and
printer it is best to compile both as modules and then load and unload
them as needed. This is a little annoying but it will allow you to
switch between your printer and zip drive on the fly.
regards
mike p.
Garrett Mickelson wrote:
>
> I almost have this thing up and running but when I compile? the kernel
> (make bzImage) I get the following:
>
> make -C sound
> make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound'
> make all_targets
> make[3]:Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound'
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ _I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -02
> -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-lo
> sound_core.c: In function `soundcore_init':
> sound_core.c:386: warning: implicit declaration of function
> `init_es1370'
> sound_core.c:135: warning `sound_loader_lock' defined but not used
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ _I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -02
> -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-lo
> ops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -c -o es1370.o
> es1370.c
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ _I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -02
> -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-lo
> ops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -c -o
> sound_firmware.o sound_firmware.c
> rm -f sound.a
> ar rcs sound.a sound_core.0 es1370.o sound_firmware.o
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound'
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound'
>
> After I set up the image file and reboot, I run sndconfig and I'm told I
>
> need to upgrade my kernel to one that supports sound.
> I am running Linux-Mandrake 5.3, which came with kernel 2.0.36 and I
> have compiled 2.2.5, with this as the result. I have a Sound Blaster
> PCI128 and I have tried to install both the modules at the same time and
>
> with no luck either. I've tried either as a loadable mod, but no matter
> what I do, I can't get it to work. It is one of only a few things I need
>
> to do to become a complete convert from Winblows. With kernel 2.0.36 I
> had no problems with sound, but I couldn't run my printer and zip at the
>
> same time. This was my only reason to go with kernel 2.2.x, but I'm
> about ready to sell the zip drive and reinstall the Mandrake........
> Please help me avoid that move, and give me some advice. Email me at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks,
>
> Garrett Mickelson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linuxers play dirty?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:54:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bill Amsinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi !
>
> MS-IE does not work with the latest ipchains and linux masquerade, is
> this intentional like MS did to Netscape with their Proxy server?
>
> Bill Amsinux
>
>
I'm using ipchains in Linux 2.2.4. I just upgraded to IE5, my wife is still
using IE4. Both work fine. So far, the only thing I haven't got working is
her intraport client.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: exchange client that runs on LInux
Date: 2 Apr 1999 05:27:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 06:44:39 GMT Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You're last sentence is exactly the problem. The exchange admins won't
>enable it. My company is a Microsoft Solution Provider and as far as I
>know I'm the only one in the company who is using Linux, so it'll be a
>tough sell to say the least. Does anyone know if the Exchange client
>will run under wine? Just thought of that, haven't researched it so
>maybe that might be an option?
The success list is at www.winehq.com. You also might want to look at
www.vmware.com -- vmware will let you run an actual copy of Windows as
a task under Linux, and if your company has the right agreement, the
Windows license won't cost you anything.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't compile kernel-2.2.5 on rh5.2
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 22:37:46 GMT
First of all, you need the "bin86" package/RPM/deb/whatever to finish with y
your compile. Second of all, the bzip package/RPM/deb/whatever is pretty
much standard--just look for it on your FTP site of choice/CD.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, St�phane Huguet wrote:
>I've got an error in make zImage : bootsect.o : Error 127 , make zImage
>: Error 2 - and apparently a problem with something named 'as86' - is
>this a program that I don't have ? I searched it in the ftp sites but
>didn't find...
>Anyone knows what is as86 and if I need to install it ? Or is it another
>problem ?
>
>I also would like to know were to find bzip2 - in the
>kernel-upgrade-howto it is recommended to install it in order to make an
>eventual bzImage (big zImage ?) - but they say it is on the rh CD ... I
>don't have any CD !!! and I didn't find it in the ftp ... Am I just
>blind ?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Strange)
Subject: Re: Can't open display
Date: 1 Apr 1999 18:33:44 GMT
Do not know why people post a qestion without telling what
distribution (Slackware, Redhat,... or release (3.6, 5.2) or
better yet WHAT THEY TRIED TO DO IN WHAT SHELL.
Now, that I got that off my chest.
So I am going to assume the following: (we all know about assume don`t we)
If you get the message when you run an appliciton on your machine
which is not hooked to anyone else (Example su - root Then xedit somefile)
it means DISPLAY environment variable is not set.
("So how do i set it to what value?" says Stevens)
Assuming Slackware distribution and a bash shell Stevens would do a
export DISPLAY=:0.0 then
xedit somefile would not give an error.
My guess Stevens is logged in from the house to school and is having
the problem. But maybe not.
Now if Stevens would tell us what he is trying to do, maybe we could
give better answers.
STEVENS TRAVIS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Alot of my problems evolve around one error message : "can't open
: display". I'm not exactly sure what this means, and none of my books
: really exlain it either. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
: -Trav
--
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Alcatel does not claim any responsibility for them. Warranty expired when u
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
Subject: Re: After Step or X in general..
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 22:09:28 GMT
as.themes.org
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eugene wrote:
>How do you set the background wallpaper for AfterStep or X???
>
>I remember I once did it but I forgot exactly what I did..... Under
>the decorations menu, there are a lot of xpms but I want to use my
>own....
>I'm wondering how I should go about doing this,.
>Thanx in advance..
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Conover)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows - trees (the green ones)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:31:58 GMT
>You can just bag that stuff about the trees, and the earth being one big
>land fill. WTF. But I do agree that Al Gore is not to be believed. He has
>proven himself to be untrustworthy in many of the claims he makes about
>himself. Like being responsible for the internet and growing up on a farm,
>etc...
Yeah you heard about the farm thing too...that guy seems to be a really
arrogant idiot.
-Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else???
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 18:57:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jon Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't like 'diald'. It works fine. But I want something a little
> more interactive.
>
> I would like to be able to dial-up and hangup from a remote machine.
alias up='echo "up" > /etc/diald.ctl'
alias dn='echo "down" > /etc/diald.ctl'
Modify to suit where your configuration puts the control fifo for
diald (see "man diald"). You could do the same thing from a web
page with a simple cgi script.
--
11:45:00 up 37 days, 2:08, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00
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From: "Fertimport Porto Alegre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: And I saved mine!
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:21:38 -0300
For those who cudn't fix theyr linux boxes yet, or have no idea how to
make it. Has just updated glibc on RH 5.0 and SO 50 installation is
going on right now!
Follow those steps (the one I did):
- untar the glibc2-inst files on '/', according to README
- reboot linux
- boot fm a rescue disquete
- mount yr '/' partition (mine is on /dev/hda1)
- cd to '/etc'
- edit (I used vi) ld.so.conf and include the glibc2 directory created
on top of it
- mv ld-linux.so.2 on /lib to ld-lin...2-old
- cp /glibc2/ld-linux.so.2 /lib
- run 'ldconfig -v'
- reboot normally
Try it! Solved my problem!
Good Luck
Ivan Daudt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Shimpei Yamashita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:21:18 +0100
Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> there is a pristine source in the source rpm along with
>> redhat's patches which are distinct diff files. you can still
>> apply your own patches. you can remove the redhat patches.
>>
>Indeed you can, unless you are prepared to take the risk of losing
>some feature in the process!
Like what? Creating RPM packages out of your modification? That
can be arranged by editing the .spec file that gets installed when
you unpack a .src.rpm file. Comment out the patches that you don't
want applied, add in patches you do want applied.
Really, I don't see what "feature" you are missing here.
>You could, of course, look at the
>diffs, look at your patch (which you may have got elsewhere), and
>try to figure out what will fit and what you want and what will
>really happen. Great fun, I'm sure.
I fail to see your point. If you derive no joy out of tinkering with
source code, what are you doing with the pristine source code in the
first place? As for reconciling various patches from various different
people, that's something you will *always* have to deal with, whether
you run RedHat or not.
>> yes there are. no one makes you use redhat. if you do not
>> care for redhat, do not use it. redhat does have actual
>> problems. i challenge you to find them and not just make up
>> random lies.
>>
>I'm sorry that I am nor a follower of the One True Red Hat
>religion. I challenge you to point out where I lied. For what it
>is worth, I've not had any problem with my copy of Redhat. It's
>pretty neat so long as you don't mind being led by the nose.
Nobody says you *have* to use RPM. You can do rm -rf /var/lib/rpm
immediately after the installation is over, and never have to deal
with the rpm command ever again. Of course, this means you get to
hand-compile every new and updated software in the future, and you can
forget about updating to future versions of RedHat without a complete
re-install, but since you don't seem to like packaging....
--
Shimpei Yamashita <http://www.submm.caltech.edu/%7Eshimpei/>
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