Linux-Misc Digest #731, Volume #18 Sat, 23 Jan 99 03:13:27 EST
Contents:
Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist? (tony summerfelt)
Radius Server ("Todd K. Tuttle")
Re: SAMBA observations and questions (Raj Rijhwani)
Re: PINE to check on mail? (Michael Powe)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" (William Wueppelmann)
Re: 2038 and Linux ("Keith G. Murphy")
Re: WOW LotusNotes on Linux (Michael Powe)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Ilya)
Extending an extended partition. (Matthew Parry)
Re: 3c905B running DHCP in Red Hat 5.1 ("Ryan Beesley")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
Re: No floppy in Linux ? (Loren Brookes)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" (Michael Powe)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" (Michael Powe)
Re: tar problems (Loren Brookes)
Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks (Nathan Dorfman)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Michael Powe)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tony summerfelt)
Subject: Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Jan 1999 15:47:06 -0500
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:08:07 -0500, Christian Brideau wrote:
> I want to automate complete telnet sessions. In other words, logon-do
> stuff-get out.
> Is this scriptable? If not is there a macro software out there that I
> could use to perform this task?
you could use perl and the perl net::telnet module to do this. perl is
probably installed on your system. net::telnet can be obtained from your
nearest cpan site...
--
.t
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From: "Todd K. Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Radius Server
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:41:00 -0600
Anyone know of a good Radius Server for Linux?
TIA
Todd K. Tuttle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SAMBA observations and questions
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 99 01:07:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Matthew Kirkwood" writes:
> On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ah, now it's looking familiar. I think it's a Win95 bug which you can
> work about by recompiling your kernel with "Win95 Bug Workaround" enabled.
Nuts! That was what I was hoping to avoid... I haven't installed any
development resources, and wasn't intending going down that route.
Worth a try, I guess. Thanks.
--
Raj Rijhwani (umtsb5/16) | This is the voice of the Mysterons...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ... We know that you can hear us Earthmen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Lieutenant Green: Launch all Angels!"
http://www.courtfld.demon.co.uk/raj/ (demon, and gods, willing...)
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Subject: Re: PINE to check on mail?
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Jan 1999 22:18:12 -0800
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>>>>> "Ima" == Ima Maroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ima> Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
Ima> <1aKp2.64$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> Does anyone know how to make PINE v4.91 to receive mail from a
>> pop
Ima> server? I
>> configured it to send but alas, failed in configuring it
>> receive e-mail. Does anyone know?
Ima> Read their documentation (www.pine.washington.edu or some
Ima> such url). You need to put {servername:pop3}INBOX for the
Ima> inbox in the setup, and {servername:pop3} in the folders
Ima> collection in the setup. (The above aren't exact, but
Ima> they're close. I've done it and it works fairly well.)
This, of course, does not make Pine actually <receive> mail, it causes
it to use remote pop mailboxes. IOW, it acts like the mail file at
your ISP is a local file.
A more usual procedure is to use fetchmail to bring mail in to
sendmail and have it delivered locally.
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:47:41 GMT
On 22 Jan 1999 18:14:31 GMT, the artist formerly known as w joseph mantle said:
>Traveller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>w joseph mantle wrote:
>
>>> I don't like vi either, although not because it doesn't
>>> have the pull down menus, rather that it requires extra
>>> keystrokes every time you switch between the two
>>> main modes.
>
>>Actually I remember reading somewhere that 'vi' was created to be sort
>>of like WP, with the concept that if
>>you're fingers can fly around a keyboard why bother reaching for a
>>mouse.
>
>I agree. Taking your hands off of the keyboardk, grabbing the
>mouse, pulling down a menu, and selecting an item takes about
>20 to 50 times longer than hitting ^b.
Except that wasn't vi written before 1980, long before mouse-operated word
processord became common?
>But vi is not that great either. If I'm inserting in the middle
>of a line and want to insert at the end of the line I need
>to hit escape (to go into command mode), hit $ (to go to
>the end of the line), and hit a (to return to insert mode).
Actually, you can do it with ESC, Ctrl+[ or Ctrl+C to enter command mode, and
then A or I to append text to the end of the line or insert text at the
beginning of the line.
You can include mappings such as
map! <ctrl+A> <ESC>I
map! <ctrl+E> <ESC>A
to make it a one keystroke process. Most of the problems people have with vi
involve not knowing all of the keystrokes or not knowing the best ways to
accomplish certain tasks, rather than inherent limitations of the editor.
There are always going to be a few annoyances with vi, such as requiring 3
keystrokes to insert a single character (i + char + ESC) from command mode
(though a macro can be used to reduce this to two, if you really want) but the
overall efficiency with which most tasks can be completed more than make up
for these few minor annoyances (IMHO).
>In a normal full screen editor you can get to the end of
>the line with a single control key. Part of the problem with
>vi is that the escape character is usually far away from
>home position on the keyboard. I'd say it takes 3 times
>as much time to do these steps in vi.
Ctrl+[ generates the same code as escape. Also, Ctrl+C will end insert mode,
so you have two choices on the main key cluser.
--
William
====================================================
* I learned Windows so that I could get a job. *
* I learned Unix so that I could get the job done. *
====================================================
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:29:20 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Niel Markwick wrote:
> The DEC Alpha is a 64 bit computer that exists now. DEC Unix is a 64 bit
> OS that
> uses a 32 bit time_t. It _may_ use a 64 bit time quantity internally...
> but, the output of date(1) still rolls over at Y2038.
>
> I guess DEC thought that making time_t 64 bit would cause so many
> incompatabilies with data files, communications struct's, cross-platform
> file formats, assumptions in existing code, etc etc etc - basically
> ANYTHING that used time_t that might be transmitted by any means to a
> machine that uses a 32 bit time_t - that they decided (wisely I belive)
> to leave it as it is until a standard is agreed upon.
>
The ironic thing about all this is that DEC VMS has had a 64-bit date
representation all along: since, oh, 1985 or '86? Yet another
confirmation of the "Digital has it now" slogan. :-)
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Subject: Re: WOW LotusNotes on Linux
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Jan 1999 22:24:07 -0800
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>>>>> "Ed" == Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ed> This is for LotusNotes Server. How can I get a LotusNotes
Ed> client working in Linux? Is the client being ported also
Ed> (hope, hope, hope)???
Why would you want it? Not enough pain in your life?
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
8<-----------------------here's-one-example------------------------------>8
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Date: 22 Jan 1999 20:48:40 +0800
In comp.editors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Chris Ebenezer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Maybe the period and capitalization and their relative sizes have
> > evolved more or less because the start of a sentence is more
> > important than its end. Sure, use of both is redundant, but then
> > there is so much other redundancy in languages I'm not sure that
> > it's worth getting worked up about it.
> Redundancy is very important in human communication. I don't think
> that we should aim to reduce it. Often enough, there are
> misunderstandings because of _lack_ of redundancy.
And that is a good point. Capitalization and period are redundant for a
reason.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Parry)
Subject: Extending an extended partition.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:24:23 +1100
Hi,
I was wondering if there is a way to increase the size of a
partition without destroying the data on it? I want to install
the HURD on a new partition, but to do that I have to split a
Gig off my /home partition. The problem being that apparently
I can only have one extented partition, so I'll need to put the
new HURD partition on /dev/hda4 (My extended partition).
Does anyone know how I can increase the size of my extended
partition without destroying its two logical partitions?
Thanks much,
--
Matthew Parry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<URL:http://www.bowerbird.com.au/>
-
"There now, didn't I tell you to keep a good count? Well,
there's and end of the story. God knows there's no going on
with it now." - Sancho Panza.
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From: "Ryan Beesley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: 3c905B running DHCP in Red Hat 5.1
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:13:06 -0600
rec.models.railroad removed :)... actually this is a know problem with
certain M.Boards and the 3c905B. 3COM / USRobotics said on their webpage
that this net card on some motherboards may not reset properly... As I
recall, they are working on a solution, but for present, keep powering down.
Mick Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>While I am not using Red Hat, I had a somewhat similar problem. When
>you boot up your machine, check to make sure that the NIC is being
>detected. I *think* you will see something like 01:33:0F:21 (or some
>combination like this). If you see FF:FF:FF:FF, then I believe your
>card is not being detected. My solution was to power down the computer
>and then bring it back up (cold boot). When I warm boot from Win95, the
>card isn't detected.
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Jan 1999 22:52:05 -0800
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>>>>> "mlw" == mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
mlw> Anyway, I am troubled by much of my countries military
mlw> actions -- I do not want to base my nationalism on that, but,
mlw> as for technology, computers specifically, the US has pretty
mlw> much initiated the whole thing. Of that we can be proud,
mlw> except when you think we are also the home of
mlw> Microsoft. Then, of course, there are Exxon, The religious
mlw> right (idiots), "Pro-life" people that kill people with bombs
mlw> (I still don't get that one), drug prohibition, laws against
mlw> doctor assisted suicide, and any number of things that prove
mlw> the average american is no different than the average person
mlw> world wide; stupid.
Hard to see where you got the idea that "the US has pretty much
initiated the whole thing." The modern "computer revolution" started
in Britain. Americans are too self-congratulatory for my taste. They
seem to forget a few major technological facts, like they got hosed in
automotive technology and manufacturing technologies and had to play
catchup in electronic technologies. Isn't anybody here old enough to
remember that American businessmen thought transistors would be of no
serious commercial value? American businessmen are noted around the
world for their inability to see beyond next quarter's earnings
chart.
Presently, we see how much of the next frontier -- biological -- is
being developed in Europe, while Americans pass laws against it.
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
8<-----------------------here's-one-example------------------------------>8
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Loren Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No floppy in Linux ?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:03:54 +1300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> now I finally succeded in installing and configuring SuSe Linux by simply
> ignoring all system crashes, but there seems to be the last question
> before winning the princess: How do I mount the floppy ? There is no
> problem to mount and unmount /cdrom, but there seems to be no entry in
> fstab. In the bootup messages there is a line like "floppy(s) fd0" or
> similar.
>
> What will I have to tell the system in order to access a floppy drive ?
>
> Thanks in advance for kind answers.
>
> Gru� HaJo
This is what is in my fstab
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2 user,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 0 0
then just mount /mnt/floppy, umount /mnt/floppy
Even if it is not in fstab, you could just go: mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0
/mnt/floppy
Loren
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:15:17 -0800
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>>>>> "William" == William Wueppelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Actually I remember reading somewhere that 'vi' was created to
>>> be sort of like WP, with the concept that if you're fingers
>>> can fly around a keyboard why bother reaching for a mouse.
>> I agree. Taking your hands off of the keyboardk, grabbing the
>> mouse, pulling down a menu, and selecting an item takes about
>> 20 to 50 times longer than hitting ^b.
William> Except that wasn't vi written before 1980, long before
William> mouse-operated word processord became common?
'Vi' comes from 'visual interface',because it was created as a visual
frontend for the ex editor. I've been using computers just long
enough to have used a line editor -- the old DOS edlin. You guys
don't know how lucky you are having a whole screenful of your document
to work with. You wouldn't be nearly so cheerful if you had to edit
your .Xdefaults file one line at a time.
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Jan 1999 22:54:13 -0800
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>>>>> "Dillon" == Dillon Pyron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >disappointed. you will bless the day you met emacs. you will
>> use >vi when you have to, but in the throws of passion, you
>> will say... > ohh emacs!!!! > > and vi will crash in a huff.
>> > > HARHAR, but it is true.
Dillon> And when your system goes tu, do you know how to edit the
Dillon> requisite files to get it up and running again?
Yes. So what? Do you?
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Loren Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar problems
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:09:48 +1300
joshr wrote:
>
> ok, i am an admitted newbie at this linux thing, that out of the way i have
> a question. i have redhat 5.2 and i would like to install a mp3 player for
> Xwindows. when i go to untar the file nothing happens. it will just sit
> there and stare at me and i have to ^c out to get my prompt back. the
> command line i am using is "tar -x <filename>" this is correct, is it not? i
> looked in all my books on the subject and the closest thing i got to an
> explanation is that "tar is a slow process" ok, but does it take 5-10
> minutes to untar something? i wouldn't think so. any help is greatly
> appreciated.
>
> -josh
The problem is one I had for ages. You don't put the '-' in front or tar
<options>
i.e. tar xf file-name.tar
and NOT
tar -xf file-name.tar
Loren
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From: Nathan Dorfman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks
Date: 21 Jan 1999 22:08:16 GMT
In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>>>>> "Eugene" == Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Eugene> BTW, www.yahoo.com also runs on FreeBSD and so does
>> Eugene> www.hotmail.com There's a nice story somewhere about how
>> Eugene> Microsoft tried to replace FreeBSD with NT on
>> Eugene> Hotmail... But NT just didn't cut it.
>
>Hotmail still runs :
>www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.2.1 on FreeBSD.
>according to netcraft.
>
>
>> Hmm, I think Hotmail runs on Solaris. And, I believe that not all of
>> Yahoo is on FreeBSD, just the search engines.
I'm pretty sure Hotmail runs their mail servers on Solaris and the web
server side on FreeBSD. As for Yahoo, I have no idea what they run, but
based on the article in the old FreeBSD Newsletter, I understand that
they are/were running FreeBSD on at least their web servers, and were
phasing out other systems in favor of FreeBSD? The newsletters are archived
at www.FreeBSD.org.
--
Nathan Dorfman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The statements and opinions in my
Unix Admin @ Frontline Communications usenet posts are mine, not FCC's.
"The light at the end of the tunnel is the headlight of an approaching
train." --/usr/games/fortune
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Jan 1999 23:35:38 -0800
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>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Bergeron <!@> writes:
>> I have a friend, a MS user. A teacher for 20 years and now a
>> school principal. PhD, specializing in the use of computers in
>> education. He's received two Fulbrights, one to teach in
>> England on the teacher exchange program and one to study Latin
>> American literature at Emory University. He's been nominated
>> for state Teacher of the Year award. He's been given awards
>> and commendations by several of the schools he's taught at. He
>> still gets letters from former students, thanking him for the
>> help he gave them.
Chris> Those who can do, those who can't teach.
Minus 10 points for inability to generate an original idea.
>> And you think you're better than he is because you use linux
>> and he doesn't? You're a fucking idiot. You're worse than an
>> idiot, you actually damage the cause you espouse. The whole
>> program of encouraging more people to try linux is damaged by
>> the thoughtless snobbery of people like yourself.
Chris> I like to think of it as more than just snobbery. How dare
Of course you do. It's mere self-flattery.
Chris> you insult me with such a "cliche" word. I know how to use
Chris> my computer, and therefore, I want to use it to it's
Chris> maximum capacity. Hence, I Linux.
While he's getting real work done, you're playing with your config
files. I'd say you 'Linux' so you can be status-back baby in geek
world and look down on other people. When the day is done, who's made
the world a better place to live? People like you give linux a bad
name. Someday, you ought to take a look at the people who are at the
forefront of the free software movement. You'll find very little of
your peanut-gallery snobbery there. Take a look, take a lesson.
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
8<-----------------------here's-one-example------------------------------>8
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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