Linux-Misc Digest #731, Volume #26 Sat, 6 Jan 01 12:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Partition overlapped ("Eric en Jolanda")
Re: Partition overlapped ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Chown problem (Michael Heiming)
Re: Kernel Panic since new mobo installation ("Claire M. Hecker")
Re: Chown problem (Troutman)
Re: auto run ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Where's my memory?! (Paul Sack)
Re: Best Dual Processor board and processor (Michael Heiming)
Re: Palm OS / Windows CE communication software ("G Pollack")
Re: Setting Up Several Apache ("John Lyons")
Can't load XKB keymap? ("Jason Bond")
Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: rt18139.c (Dave Brown)
Re: Chown problem (Troutman)
problme with printing from mac to linux via TCP/IP ("Ingo Brand")
Re: what news reader do you use? (Chris J/#6)
Re: Installing a CDRW Drive on a Linux System (John Molitor)
Re: what news reader do you use? (Dave Brown)
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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Partition overlapped
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 16:52:19 +0100
> > fdisk -l /dev/hda >partition.table and see if the partitions overlap
> on
> > that.
>
> hmm, no, seems to be quite right:
Then look better:
>
> # fdisk -l /dev/hda
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2491 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 1 64 514048+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda2 65 319 2048287+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda3 * 320 1057 5927985 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
> /dev/hda4 1058 2491 11518605 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/hda5 * 2085 2491 3269196 b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hda6 1058 2084 8249314+ 83 Linux
>
> Confusing, right?
Not really. I just don't get it how people keep creating logicals like this.
> Ahh, got a more presise error message while trying cfdisk:
Not more precise, just reported more explicit
> Does it ring the bell to anybody? not me. :-)
>
delete partitions hda5 and hda6 , and recreate them in the right order.
print the EXACT CHS values of these partitions on to a piece of paper.
If you recreate them with these numbers (with hda5 and hda6 switched!) you
won't even lose data. A typo is disastrous though. Therefor backup what you
can before you begin this operation.
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Partition overlapped
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 15:52:47 GMT
In article <937an2$lf5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <ttq56.31002$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On 05 Jan 2001 16:11:52 -0400, * Tong * wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I used the partition-magic to partition my HD. Then installed RH6.2
> > >in it. When I installed the RH, RH complained that my partitions
are
> > >overlapped. But I didn't have any problems up till now, when I was
> > >trying to install the vmware. Vmware also complained that my
> > >partitions are overlapped and what's worse, refused to make use of
> > >the win98 partition.
> > >
> > >So I installed the gnu-parted and tried to resize and move around
my
> > >partitions a bit:
> > >
> > >- - - -
> > >(parted) rm 6
> > >(parted) mkpart logical ext2 8292 16346
> > >(parted) print
> > >Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0-19547.2 megabytes
> > >Minor Start End Type Filesystem Flags
> > >1 0.0 502.0 primary ext2
> > >2 502.0 2502.3 primary ext2
> > >3 2502.3 8291.4 primary FAT boot
> > >4 8291.4 19540.0 extended
> > >6 8291.4 16347.4 logical
> > >5 16347.4 19540.0 logical FAT boot
> > >- - - -
> > >
> > >I thought the "partitions overlapped" really means that I shouldn't
> > >have those .xx (decimal) starting and ending points. So, as you can
> > >see, I readjusted the 6th to "8292 16346". But what parted gave me
> > >was still "8291.4 16347.4".
> > >
> > >So I'm totally lost here. Please somebody help me out. What is the
> > >"partitions overlapped" really mean? and how can I get out of this
> > >trouble? (hopefully w/o losing my previous info in the partition).
> > >
> > >Thanks a lot!!!
> > >
> > >--
> > Overlap means the ending cylinder of one partition is the same as
the
> > beginning cylinder of the next. Let's have a look at what fdisk
> sees. Do
> > fdisk -l /dev/hda >partition.table and see if the partitions overlap
> on
> > that.
>
> hmm, no, seems to be quite right:
>
> # fdisk -l /dev/hda
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2491 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 1 64 514048+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda2 65 319 2048287+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda3 * 320 1057 5927985 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
> /dev/hda4 1058 2491 11518605 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/hda5 * 2085 2491 3269196 b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hda6 1058 2084 8249314+ 83 Linux
>
> Confusing, right?
>
> Ahh, got a more presise error message while trying cfdisk:
>
> FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 5: enlarged logical
> partitions overlap
> Press any key to exit cfdisk
>
> Does it ring the bell to anybody? not me. :-)
If it is the logicals that are overlapping, then hda5 and hda6 are the
culprints, I would think. It says 5 is bad. I would assume it is
overlapping at the beginning cylinder. So, if PM can move that start
cylinder up, that might cure it. The other option would be to try to
make hda6 smaller with gnu-parted in order to make the ending cylinder a
bit lower.
Anita
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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:50:27 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Chown problem
Eric en Jolanda wrote:
> > I want to change a file's owner to andrew.chan. But if I type chown
> > andrew.chan abc, it will recogize the user as andrew and group as chan
> since
> > there is a period between the name and the firstname. Chown delimits user
> > and group using period. So how do I put a username with a period in
> between?
> >
>
> Escape the shell interpreterer?
> try andrew\.chan instead.
Doesn't work on my system SuSE 7.0 - 2.2.16...
>
>
> But you shouldn't choose such an owner. It's bound to give you more problems
> in the future. Call it andrewchan, or just andrew. Make a sound choice. Let
> users do silly things. If you are a system adminstrator, you should think
> twice before doing things like this.
>
> Eric
That's more than right I wouldn't choose such silly . in the username, but if
someone demands it.....:-(
Michael Heiming
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From: "Claire M. Hecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic since new mobo installation
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:37:45 -0500
I had a similar problem after installing Mandrake 6.1 (or was it 6.2?) on
a machine that I had just built. It had an FIC motherboard (don't
remember the exact model) and a K7 550 MHz processor. The install went
fine, but when I tried to boot the machine I got a kernel panic.
Since I was looking to upgrade my version of Linux, anyway, I got Mandrake
7.0, which installed and booted fine on that machine. I should hope that
a release as recent as RH 7 would support the hardware in question, but
it's possible that it doesn't.
Claire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Troutman)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Chown problem
Date: 6 Jan 2001 11:07:46 -0500
>>That's more than right I wouldn't choose such silly . in the username,
>>but if someone demands it.....:-(
Oh - you could chown using the UID/GID instead of name.
--
______________________________
Mike Troutman
http://www.troutman.org/
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: auto run
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 11:07:08 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> >> > What the fuck is autorun?
> >>
> >> Lets look at the word more closely shall we...
> >> First, lets split it in two...
> >> Auto... Short for automatic. To do something without manual intrervention.
> >> Run... To start a program...
> >>
> >> So to autorun a program means to start a program auotomatically...
> >> </sarcasm>
> >> Can we say Duuuuh???
>
> > Close, but no ceeegar. Auto = self.
>
> > Therefore, Auto+Run = SELF+running program.
>
> Then why ask the stupid question in the first place??? Eh???
since I've never seen a self-running program, I'm merely
asking you what the fuck this "autorun" thing is supposed to be?
> Oh, and I noticed you totally ignored the rest of my posting...
>
> So I'll repeat it as you seem to be incredibly thick. It might sink in this
> time...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sack)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Where's my memory?!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:01:16 GMT
In article <WYw56.122133$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, blix wrote:
>I have 128MB RAM in this Linux RH7.0 box. When I first bootup 'top' shows
>that there is 47MB used already! That is without x windows.
>
>After I run X for a while, with KDE, or sometimes just TWM ... 'top'
>shows all 128MB is used!
I believe it's because the kernel is caching recently opened files (including
programs). In top press "M" to see a list of processes sorted by memory usage
and you will see that. (And it has a "cached" memory value at the top IIRC).
--
"Yeah, but you're taking the universe out of context."
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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 17:10:10 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Best Dual Processor board and processor
Joshua Butcher wrote:
> What is the best dual process motherboard, and processor to buy for a
> small - medium sized web/mysql server It is for my home, I have
> started a business and I am running it from home, and have no exp yet
> with dual processor combinations? I will be running RedHat 7.0. I
> have the machine up and running now, but its an older AMD K6-3 450
> with a promise 66 raid controller...
Hallo,
I don't know why you want a new/fater machine for your task, with enough
RAM your K6 450 MHz will easily blow away
your bandwith, you didn't wrote how much you have and what traffic you
expect?
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: "G Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Palm OS / Windows CE communication software
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:30:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Arctic Storm"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Radu Serban wrote:
>
>> Hi all, I am thinking of getting a handheld device. I am trying to
>> decide between Palm OS and Windows CE. Since I have Linux (RedHat 6.1)
>> on both my desktop and laptop, my main concern is finding Linux
>> software for communicating with the handheld PC. What is available out
>> there? Any comments greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>> --Radu
>
> For Linux, there's the JPilot, which is better than the KPilot that
> comes in KDE.
>
> I personally have RedHat Linux 7, and I run VMWare 2 for Linux. I run
> virtual Win98 within the VMWare virtual computer, and I sync using the
> Windows version of Palm desktop. If you don't have VMWare for Linux,
> then JPilot is a very good alternative.
> ----
>
If you need to synchronize addresses, appointments, etc., between wince and linux, then
so far as I know, there's nothing out there that does this. But if all
you need to do is transfer files, then this is easy to do via a serial
ppp link. There are instructions for this on the web (can't find my local
copy at present).
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From: "John Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Setting Up Several Apache
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 02:21:51 -0000
Reply-To: "John Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Please explain the reasoning behind running both versions
> simultaneously.
Not sure what the posters reasons are but I'm using a server which is shared
between three users and we each want to be able to have our own config files
for apache, sendmail, and bind. (We're each running on our own IP addresses
so we should each be able to use port 80 for apache.)
The only thing that I couldn't work out was how much extra load would it
place on the server to be running miltiple versions of the core packages?
John
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From: "Jason Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't load XKB keymap?
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 08:49:42 -0800
I find this line in my /var/log/XF86CONFIG0 (or something named close to
that):
Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
And it doesn't load any of my key-swapping or repeat rate info...what is
wrong? Thanks,
Jason
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab?
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 11:45:27 -0500
Dances With Crows wrote (in part):
>
> On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:44:55 -0500, Jean-David Beyer staggered into the
> Black Sun and said:
> >Roger Davis wrote (in part):
> >> This may just be one of the most perverse 'feature's I've ever
> >> encountered. I am sorry to say that after wrestling with this
> >> and several other serious bugs for the last three days, I am
> >> giving up on Drive Image. It may work for Windows filesystems
> >> but it's virtually useless at backing up Linux partitions.
> >I used to work somewhere where we used a volcopy utility for backups.
> >Our machines had three removable pack hard drives, and one was a hot
> >spare. We did a volcopy /dev/hda /dev/hdc (or the equivalent in those
> >days), and it made an exact copy of what was on one drive onto the
> >other. We did it because it was very fast (because it pretty much
> >skipped the Unix file system and just copied disk blocks in order.
>
> volcopy = dd with different syntax?
I am not sure. If you give dd a normal Unix file, it seems to me it
would defragment it as it copied. You did not give file names, but
device names to volcopy, such as /dev/hda or something. Of course, maybe
dd would think that was a normal file and copy it. I am talking the late
1970s and do not recall the details. volcopy would make an exact image
of one file system on another one (assumed the same size, or perhaps the
target could be larger), holes and fragmentation included.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 11:35am up 2 days, 18:14, 3 users, load average: 2.05, 2.08, 2.07
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: rt18139.c
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 Jan 2001 11:46:49 -0600
In article <9372ug$gc5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>now i've got the driver for the my ethernet card for Redhat 5.2
>installed in my pc. (i know this version is.....)
>...[snip]...
>**********************************8
>Questions:
>a)
>i've done step 1 & 2, when it comes to step number 3 -- /temp/trans
>--- i got unsure cos after i key in
>as root:
>cd /temp
>trans
>it display "bad command or file name" -- kindly advise which command
>code i should enter to execute "trans"??? pls help so that the .c file
>could be compiled successfully. :-D
>
>b) and what is "chmod 777" actually??
For Q "a": try "./trans"
/temp is probably not on your "search path" for executables.
For Q. "b": it's a Unix-thing. Changes the permissions on a file
for all users, so they can read, write, and execute the file in question.
Good luck. (You're at the beginning of an adventure. Before it's over,
you may fall off a cliff. Are you sure you wouldn't be better off
getting a more up-to-date distribution of Linux which will have rtl8139
module already insertable.)
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Troutman)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Chown problem
Date: 6 Jan 2001 11:06:57 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Heiming) graced us with the following:
>That's more than right I wouldn't choose such silly . in the username,
>but if someone demands it.....:-(
If it is for mail, then set up a normal user and alias the funky one in
/etc/aliases. Or any of the other mail tables.
--
______________________________
Mike Troutman
http://www.troutman.org/
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From: "Ingo Brand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: problme with printing from mac to linux via TCP/IP
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 17:51:22 +0100
I want to use a linuxbox as a printserver for a lan with macs and windows
computers. the linuxbox is only used for spooling the printjobs, so the
clients can be used again for working. printing from linux and winows is no
problem at all. the printerconfiguration is ok and working. now i tried to
setup the printer in the mac. i setp a TCP/IP printer with the ip of the
linuxbox and the printerqueuename (remote) of the printer connected to the
linuxbox.
the printer is an Apple Laserwriter 12/640 (Postscript) with built in
ethernet-interface.
when i try to print a job from the mac (g3dvd) i get the following output in
/var/log/messages:
Jan 4 20:31:27 linux lpd[3918]: job received from g3dvd for printer
'remote'
Jan 4 20:31:29 linux lpd[3918]: remote: Job_match: bad match control
'cfA058G3 DVD', data 'dfA058G3_DVD'
Jan 4 20:31:29 linux lpd[3918]: remote: recvfiles: file with bad format
dfA058G3_DVD
Jan 4 20:31:29 linux lpd[3918]: remote: recvfiles: protocol violation
when i use a different printerqueue (lp) it doesn's work, too:
Jan 4 20:32:35 linux lpd[3922]: job received from g3dvd for printer 'lp'
Jan 4 20:32:36 linux lpd[3922]: lp: Job_match: bad match control 'cfA141G3
DVD', data 'dfA141G3_DVD'
Jan 4 20:32:36 linux lpd[3922]: lp: recvfiles: file with bad format
dfA141G3_DVD
Jan 4 20:32:36 linux lpd[3922]: lp: recvfiles: protocol violation
What does that message mean? how can i solve the problem? what's wrong?
I also tried to setup the printserver papd in netatalk, but there is an
other problem with it. printing via TCP/IP is my preferred solution, because
AppleTalk is so slow.
thanks for your help!
Ingo Brand
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: what news reader do you use?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 Jan 2001 16:44:58 -0000
blix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am currently using PAN... it seems to be the closest to the newsreader
>I am used to on my Windows machine (MS Outlook Express).
>
>But I've been trying to use emacs to read the news but find it very
>non-intuitive and cumbersome. Is it worth it to learn to read the news in
>emacs?
>
>What news readers do you all use?
>
trn, and I run innd locally with suck so I can read news offline. No gui-ness
but rather decent and powerful :)
Chris...
--
Chris Johnson \ "If not for me then, do it for yourself. If not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ for then do it for the world." -- Stevie Nicks
www.nccnet.co.uk/~sixie/ ~---------------------------------------+
Redclaw chat - http://redclaw.org.uk - telnet redclaw.org.uk 2000 \______
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From: John Molitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing a CDRW Drive on a Linux System
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:51:43 GMT
Bill Unruh wrote:
> In <jms56.22$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin
> McCormick) writes:
>
>
> ]If I install an IDE CDRW drive on a Linux system, is it likely to
> ]work? I wonder how much of the functionality of the drive is
> Yes. Make sure it is an ATAPI device.
>
> ]hard-wired in to the device and how much requires special drivers. Of
> ]course the drive comes with a boat-load of software applications all
> ]designed for Windows systems, but all that will be just so many extra
> ]CDROM's in this situation.
>
> ] What is a good course of action?
>
> Buy the CDRW, install it.
> edit /etc/lilo.conf and put the line
> append="hdc=ide-scsi"
> into the file in the section under the linux bootup section (or whatever
> the name you gave to boot up linus)
>
> Place
> modprobe ide-scsi
> at the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> Reboot.
> You may want to also do
> ln -sf /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom
>
>
>
> ] This drive will get a slot on an IDE cable plus the power
> ]connection and that's pretty much it.
> Yup, that's pretty much it.
>
>
> ] I don't have a specific drive bought or even picked out yet,
> ]so any suggestions are much appreciated.
>
> I'm using a new LG (Lucky Goldstar) 8081B and so far it has worked fine
> (8-4-32)
> I have also used a Yamaha which worked fine.
> Read the cdrecord docs ( get the latest 1.9 version) for detailed help
> and statements about drives that it is compatible with. (You will use
> cdrecord to burn the disks, even if you also get a front end like
> XCDRoast)
>
>
>
Under RH6.2 I had to read the readmeatapi (or something like that) that
came with cdrecord. I had to recompile the kernel to force all my cdroms
to be scsi. I did get it to work though.
However, with Mandrake 7.2 (I switched) everything installed flawlessly.
The installer recognized both my cdrom and my cdrw and configured them
correctly. Links were also setup (cdrom and cdrom1) for both drives.
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: what news reader do you use?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 Jan 2001 11:58:04 -0600
In article <Pine.LNX.4.31.0101061037200.5527-100000@darkstar>,
Christopher W. Aiken wrote:
>
>pine and slrn. I don't care for all the GUI glitz.
>
I'll drink to that!
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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