Linux-Misc Digest #393, Volume #19 Wed, 10 Mar 99 01:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: More bad news for NT (John Thompson)
Re: RedHat 5.2, Enscript and HP LJ 5L ("Cheng C. Yeh")
Re: Serial mouse on laptop ("teknokr@t")
Re: how to run cmp of files against CD (Gary Momarison)
Netscape forcing constant reboots (rob)
file ag ext (Khairul Azmi Abu Bakar)
KDE Password screwup
Help Wanted on Gnome Installation HOWTO (J Matthew Peters)
Re: benchmark a sun vs a intel linux box (Peter Mardahl)
Re: this aint a brag BUT!!! (Richard Steiner)
Re: Uh-oh, I've got kernel panic (brian moore)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (brian moore)
Re: best offline newsreader? (Jim Richardson)
RedHat 5.2, Enscript and HP LJ 5L ("Cheng C. Yeh")
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 16:44:29 -0600
Harry wrote:
>
> David Steuber wrote:
>
> > GUI time line:
> >
> > SRI-----PARC------APPLE-------MSFT
> > |
> > MIT (X)
> > |
> > ----- Free X
> GUI time line? I had to laugh. Why does it split? Is X is a
> different, parallel universe? What a load of tosh these potted
> histories are.
Well, in a way it is quite different. Unlike MacOS or
Windows, x does not impose a "look and feel" on the GUI; it
only provides the tools to build a GUI. Perhaps it would be
better depicted thus:
____APPLE----MS, OS/2
/
SRI---PARC
\____MIT(X)----XFree86
At least that way x isn't the dead-end side track...
> Thank you for cheering up my afternoon. Normally only Dilbert has
> this effect.
>
> Harry
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 22:30:35 -0500
From: "Cheng C. Yeh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RedHat 5.2, Enscript and HP LJ 5L
After further testing, I am able to determined that the problem only occured
if I use the -E option to turn on pretty print of source code.
The command I use is as follow.
** This command works fine. The pages are printed and eject properly.
enscript -MLetter -C -G -T4 -2r -j <filename>
** These commands print and format the output with syntax highlight but does
** not properly eject the page. I only get the first page out.
enscript -MLetter -C -Ecpp -G -T4 -2r -j <filename>
or
enscript -MLetter -C -E -G -T4 -2r -j <filename>
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks,
Cheng
"Cheng C. Yeh" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone had ran into this problem and found a
> solution. I have a perfectly good running system based on Red Hat 5.2
> with SMP, 2.0.36 kernel; recently upgraded to 2.2.2 kernel.
>
> I have an HP LaserJet 5L printer connected to /dev/lp0 and I am using
> the LaserJet 4/5/6 printer filter. Everthing works fine, I can print
> with lpr and stuff. However when I tries to print with enscript, the
> printer doesn't eject the page. I can see that data are being sent to
> the printer because the light is flashing but no matter how many pages I
> print, I don't get any output. After print job is complete, I press the
> form feed button and all I get is one page, the first page.
>
> Has anyone else ran into this probem?
>
> Thanks,
> Cheng
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From: "teknokr@t" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Serial mouse on laptop
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:38:37 +1300
David Heddle wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have RH5.1 running on a DELL Inspiron 3000. The touchpad works just
> fine under X. Recently I purchased a serial mouse (Microsoft "basic"
> mouse) and would like to get it to work simultaneously with the touch
> pad (as it does under Windows). Does anyone know how to do this?
>
> Let me thank you in advance for any help.
>
> David Heddle
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
try this - you may have to change the -t ms to something elseread the
docs on gpm to find out what it all means, its pretty straightforward
gpm -t ps2 -m /dev/psaux -g 1 -B123 -M -t ms -m /dev/cua0 -3 -R
You will also have to play around with the pointer setings in your
XF86Config
file to get this to work in X.
Let me know if this doesn't work and I'll send you send you some more
detailed instructions.
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to run cmp of files against CD
Date: 09 Mar 1999 17:46:53 -0800
PLEASE REQUEST HELP ON comp.os.linux.help NEXT TIME.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I am trying to figure out how to run a comparison of files between what is on
> my system and the distribution CD. It looks like I should use cmp. I cannot
> find a man page on this RedHat 5.1. Can someone tell me how to do it?
Run "man rpm" and search for "VERIFY OPTIONS".
You'd want to run "rpm" on each file in /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMs/ (sp?)
with the proper verify options. It doesn't do a 100% bit-by-bit check
(uses a checksum) but should be good enough for most purposes.
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape forcing constant reboots
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 20:46:22 -0700
Hello,
I run netscape from a linux machine, displaying it on an x server on my
other
machine. Every ten minutes or so, when Netscape locks up, it somehow
screws up the ethernet connection between the machine running the x
server
and the machine running the client (Netscape). With no network
connectivity,
I can't even telnet to the client machine to kill netscape. I end up
having to
reboot my linux machine about every 10 minutes. Yuck. Is there a fix
for this?
rob.
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From: Khairul Azmi Abu Bakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: file ag ext
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:24:13 +0800
hello!
I have one file with .ag ext. Command file *.ag tell me it is just a plain
ASCII file but unfortunately it is not. CCan anyone tell me which
application should I use.
Thanks
Azmi
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE Password screwup
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:25:32 -0800
I was in user manager in KDE and reset the password to root. When I went to
File-Save, it said some file (can't remember) couldn't be updated. Exited
out, rebooted, and neither my old or new password works. My new password
was 8 characters. Can i continually hack away at it or does it suspend after
a while. Any suggestions before I blow out and reload?
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From: J Matthew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.ox.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Help Wanted on Gnome Installation HOWTO
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:30:28 -0600
I'm interested in helping out with doing an install documentation for
gnome,
i've been keeping track of the messages, and trying to get it to work
also.
I'm down to the point where i know it was sucessful, i can run the gnome
panel. (To do this log into xwindows and at any terminal prompt type
"panel"
and you can ge the basic gnome panel, but i think its still missing the
majority of the system.)
Anyway let me know, i'm still looking for solutions to my problem, but
have
been colleing quiet a list of questions and answers. I'll try to have
some
stuff put together, and would like any input and help anybody can give
me, this includes anybody who is working on the development.
I started with a clean Redht 5.2 install and have been working from
there.
if anyone one else is interested in documenting and maybe working on an
installation HOWTO for gnome, let me know I'm more then willing to run
point
on this, project. i think gnome has a lot of potential, and while i'm
new to
linux i'm learning fast, and would like to help make it a viable option
to
windows on the desktop. The key to doing this is getting the
documentation, help files and setup easy to get a hold of and kept
current.
Thanks
Matt Peters
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS Anyway we could get a comp.os.linux.gnome or similar group for gnome
kde etc?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Mardahl)
Crossposted-To: ucb.os.linux
Subject: Re: benchmark a sun vs a intel linux box
Date: 9 Mar 1999 20:39:26 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gordon Vrdoljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>done it for a unix system. I would however, like to compare the
>performance of a linux box running on a pentium II
>to a local server our department has on a sun system SunOS
>Generic_105181-11 sun4m sparc. I have root access to
Without knowing the particular model of sparc, I can't tell you
how much faster the Linux box is offhand. However, I'd bet
you that the P-II is significantly faster on most benchmarks.
>the linux box, but will have to talk to the sysadmin about running
>intensive tests. I do have a general user account on
>the sun system. Please let me know of any good ways to compare the
>system's performance in calculations, file access,
For calculations, if you can't perform your own, why not
refer to the SPEC benchmarks? www.specbench.org. They have other
benchmarks too. They don't benchmark Linux exactly, but rather
Unixware and Intel's reference compiler.
PeterM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: this aint a brag BUT!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:34:59 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying:
>I have freebsd\sun solaris\ linux \win95\NT\3.11 all on the one machine
>so thats 5 and a half O.S's on one box can any one beat this! (I'm sure
>plenty can )
I approve! :-) (Like that matters to you! <grin>)
On my primary here I have:
Windows 95 OSR2
OpenDOS 7.01
OS/2 Warp 4
Another OS/2 Warp 4
Slackware Linux 3.2
Another Slackware Linux 3.2
Red Hat Linux 4.2
Red Hat Linux 5.1
On my secondary box I have:
Windows NT 4 Workstation
PC-DOS 6.3
OS/2 Warp 4
BeOS R4
Solaris 2.6
FreeBSD 2.2.7,
Red Hat Linux 5.1
SuSE Linux 5.3
I'll also be installing Mandrake on the second box Real Soon Now. But
if you only count all instances of each OS as "one" OS, the second box
still has seven of 'em. :-)
Of course, I really only use Win95, DOS, OS/2, and Red Hat 5.1 on the
first box and Red Hat 5.1, SuSE 5.3, and NT4 on the second box with any
real regularity. Solaris mostly sits, and FreeBSD need more attention
but I've been too busy in SuSE and BeOS recently to boot into FreeBSD.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
ONLINE? Good! Hit <ALT-H> to take the IQ test......
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Uh-oh, I've got kernel panic
Date: 9 Mar 1999 07:23:14 GMT
On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:22:41 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8 Mar 1999 17:37:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >In his obvious haste, [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled thusly:
> >: Now, I realize that I may have screwed everything on my Linux partition, but I
> >: would rather recover it, if possible. Any help?
> >
> >: My questions, then:
> >: 1. How can I repair the damage I've done/at least boot my old Linux partition?
> >
> >If you created new partitions, chances are, they have renamed all your old
> >ones, so hda5 will now be hda7, etc...
>
> I've never known linux to move partitions around like that...
Ah, but of course it will.
If you start with:
hda1
hda2
hda3
hda4
hda5
and then muck with fdisk and split hda3 into half, the old hda4 will now
be hda5. It is, after all, now the 5th partition on the drive.
Your new drive will be:
hda1
hda2
hda3 (was first part of hda3)
hda4 (was second part of hda3)
hda5 (was hda4)
hda6 (was hda5)
Note that the partitions got rearranged.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 9 Mar 1999 06:49:58 GMT
On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 01:26:56 -0500,
Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> brian moore wrote:
> >
> > > Yes. And Your point, as related to "the last holdout from basing their
> > > systems on Unix concepts is Microsoft" bit? Mind You, if You look deep
> > > enough into NT architecture, You'll see.... VMS!
> >
> > VMS is based on Unix?
> >
> > Very interesting news indeed.
>
> Never said it was. That was just an "aside". And the explicit answer to
> my question? I am a little slow on the uptake, as I can't make it out
> from Your reply....
I didn't think it needed an explanation, since it's clear that IBM is a
Unix vendor despite also selling OS/400. (Heck, they also sell Windows
on Aptivas.) Your argument is a red herring. May as well claim that
Safeway doesn't sell apples because they have milk.
The last holdout is Microsoft: every other major OS vendor (including
IBM, which was unthinkable in 1980, as was DEC) is dealing Unix.
Apple, HP, IBM, DEC: all proprietary and wierd OS's of their own 15
years sgo (remember HP-3000's? or RSTS?). Now with their major OS
investments in Unix.
The exception: Microsoft.
(Again, much of this is due to their non-compete clause that they signed
when they sold Xenix off to SCO, so it's unlikely to change.)
Please trim texts when quoting.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Date: 10 Mar 1999 05:25:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 03:26:21 -0800,
Richard Latimer, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Richard Steiner wrote in message ...
>
>>Most of the Windows users I know who use Usenet's technical
>>newsgroups tend to use text when posting. Is that not the same
>>for you?
>
>
>When I was reading messages in a Microsoft newsgroup about
>Office 2000 beta, about 1/4 to 1/3 of the messages were html
>with stationary and pics in the signatures.
So this was sucking bandwidth, for what purpose?
>
>One day I was moving thru a thread about broken sound support
>in MS Outlook when a voice came out of my computer, "What's
>the problem!" I like it.
>
Fine for those with unlimited B/W, I don't have a T1 at home (are you
listening santa?) But I want info, not fluff.
>Users may be doing more than reading technical newsgroups.
>They may be downloading and listening to their friend's new
>piece of music, or they may be telecommuting and working on
>a corporate compound document in Outlook. You can manage
>all of these feats inside Outlook or with Outlook Express.
>
or with open source s/w, under Linux, without rebooting if an app crashes.
>There are several ways to cause people to upgrade. One is to
>stop supporting something, say take support for a.out binaries
>out of the kernel. Another way is to use features that would re-
>quire users to upgrade or be left out, such as html in messages.
>
html in news is
a) Not a feature
b) easily dealt with in linux. Don't you have emacs?
>Computing gets gooey-er everyday and there isn't much anyone
>can do to stop it. It's too much fun.
I like eye candy, but when I need to get work done, well, I put the
toys away.
>
>(Or do you mean that I posted html here?)
>
>>I believe that it's better to use inexpensive, stable, flexible, and
>>OPEN technology on my desktop than to use expensive,
>>nondeterministic, inflexible fluff like Microsoft markets to the
>>public.
>
>
>The two systems are complementary headaches.
>
>Windows is easy to install and configure. It supports virtually all
>PC hardware you can buy. It has a fabulous, rich array of desktop
>application software available.
>
>It is also anal in that you must do everything MS's way. It crashes
>during normal use. You have very little control over the configuration
>of "help" features and the excess baggage that is loaded on a
>stock PC is nearly impossible to discard.
>
>Linux does not crash. It is inexpensive as you say. It is apparently
>great server software. And that's it.
>
>The desktop application software is very sad. Configuration is a
>nightmare. Most packages supporting the kernel look as if they
>began as homebrew projects that stopped when they became
>stable. They provide a good deal of flexibility if you are maintain-
>ing a network, but for a stand alone desktop they are Byzantine.
>
some truth here, but things are improving at a rate that is nothing short
of incredible.
>On my little laptop I have programs that use scripts that use scripts
>that are really links, which use more links, etc., until they get to
>a file that says "exec gnome-session". Most of this is unnecessary
>and too confusing. It requires too much time and effort to figure out.
>
>Linux has done well in the server niche. Whether it moves on to
>become a presence on the desktop depends on two things. One
>is the problem of setup and configuration. The other is application
>software.
>
>Solving these problems depends on the Linux community. If they
>continue to do things as unix has done for twenty years, then Linux
>will fail on the desktop. It isn't practical to expect newbies to solve
>these problems themselves. They require make easier installation
>and capable gooey gooey gooey software.
>
the key word is capable, LyX is capable, Word97 is not. ymmv Emacs is capable.
The only editor on Win32 that comes close to matching it, is... emacs...
imho anyway.
>>You can choose differently if you wish. That's fine. But coming in
>>here and wasting our time by tossing out insults isn't all that cool,
>>and certainly isn't going to win you much support. Please go
>>away.
>
>
>It should be the other way around, shouldn't it? If you don't like my
>posts, don't read them. My diction is sharp, but not nearly as
>insulting as things I commonly see posted to newbies asking for
>help. If I don't raise a ruckus, who will? Most of the newbies are
>too intimidated to sqeak.
>
>Newbies need help and a much better experience with Linux. If
>they stay long enough, they may solve some of these problems
>themselves, but it would seem more reasonable to badger
>experienced users into doing something about the problems
>themselves.
>
>The first and most important thing to do is to undermine confidence
>in things as they are. Unix culture is too outmoded and outdated to take
>seriously.
sure, keep thinking that as M$ loses market share in the server market, and
as it's growth slows in the desktop market. Linux unix and the *BSD camps are
making huge strides in the desktop, and own the servers.
>
>>IMSNShO non-textual material has no business whatsoever being >posted on
>Usenet. Period.
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:16:20 -0500
From: "Cheng C. Yeh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RedHat 5.2, Enscript and HP LJ 5L
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone had ran into this problem and found a
solution. I have a perfectly good running system based on Red Hat 5.2
with SMP, 2.0.36 kernel; recently upgraded to 2.2.2 kernel.
I have an HP LaserJet 5L printer connected to /dev/lp0 and I am using
the LaserJet 4/5/6 printer filter. Everthing works fine, I can print
with lpr and stuff. However when I tries to print with enscript, the
printer doesn't eject the page. I can see that data are being sent to
the printer because the light is flashing but no matter how many pages I
print, I don't get any output. After print job is complete, I press the
form feed button and all I get is one page, the first page.
Has anyone else ran into this probem?
Thanks,
Cheng
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