Linux-Misc Digest #419, Volume #19 Fri, 12 Mar 99 00:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Making Programs SUID root (Bill Anderson)
Re: RealPlayer G2 + WMP -- Yes! (John Girash)
DVD drivers for Linux (Ed Millard)
Re: low-level debugger? (David M. Cook)
Re: viewing non ascii attatchments with pine ?????????? (SpAmEnOt)
Re: viewing non ascii attatchments with pine ?????????? (SpAmEnOt)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (John Burton)
Re: hacked login (telnet) (Colin)
Re: Modem Init String (John Hasler)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (John Burton)
Re: Kernel 2.2.2 Intel (E. Frank Ball)
Re: How do I print this .ps file (William Wueppelmann)
Re: redhat 5.0 -> 5.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
why dtmf_program does not start? (Miernik)
Re: redhat rpm (mondo1)
Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix (Ken Pizzini)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Making Programs SUID root
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:55:55 +0000
Korny wrote:
>
> Fixing star office is easy... just do chown -R username path_to_soffice and
> chgrp -R user_group path_to_staroffice. Copy the 2 files in ~root that go
> with star office to your user account home dir... I think one is .sversion,
> and I don't remember what the other is. Just do ls -la | more, and look for
> them.
>
> To make a program/script run as root, set the suid bit to 4. e.g. chmod 4755
> program. This is an obvious security breech.
>
> There is also a program out there that lets you grant certain users permission
> to run root-only programs. I don't remeber what it's call, though. (Maybe
> suid?)
>
sudo
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 + WMP -- Yes!
Date: 11 Mar 1999 17:35:18 -0500
Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I received an official response from RealPlayer that Real G2 will be
: available for Linux "soon."
Good to hear, xanim just isn't keeping up (not by its own fault though).
: Meanwhile, Microsoft has announced that the Windows Media Player will be
: available in several weeks for Unix (with a specific reference to Linux,
: believe it or not!). See
: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mediaplayer/download/unix.htm
MS has been saying WMP/Linux will be out in a "few weeks" since mid-October.
Don't bet on it.
thankfully the NHL was smart enough to re-enable RealAudio gamefeeds.
jg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Millard)
Subject: DVD drivers for Linux
Date: 12 Mar 1999 03:11:36 GMT
Is anyone working on DVD drivers for Linux. In particular I'm interested in drivers
for the Luxsonar 2x0 in the DELL Inspiron 7K laptop. I sent an inquiry to Luxsonar
for specs but got no response so I assume they are only interested in OEM's or
Windoze.
-- Ed Millard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: low-level debugger?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:16:28 GMT
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:33:11 GMT, steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What do people use to debug the kernel? tia.
I'm not a kernel hacker, but I did see this announcement:
http://lwn.net/1999/0311/a/r2d2.html
Dave Cook
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From: SpAmEnOt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: viewing non ascii attatchments with pine ??????????
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:20:29 +0000
Reply-To: SpAmEnOt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 11 Mar 1999, Joe Dubner wrote:
> Joe,
>
> I had the same problem on a linux system I telnet into frequently. The
> unskilled system administrator was totally unresponsive to congiguring
> it correctly, so I simply put a copy of the shownonascii binary (which I
> obtained from a different but similar machine) into a directory in my
> PATH (where I have write priveleges). For me this is ~/bin.
>
> Works for me.
>
> Joe "really dislike pine; wish had elm and mailx" Dubner
Well Thanks Joe, But my problem is that shownonascii specificly requires X
And I'm not yet good enough to rewrite it with console based text filters.
Wait a minute... did you say binary??? the shownonascii on my slackware is
a complex script that implicitly depends on "stuff" in X11... But possibly
if there is a binary version it might have it's own "stuff" rather than
depending on an interface dependant process.
I'm sorry you dislike pine so much... (different strokes and all that rot)
I can't honestly say I tried elm, but I almost like mailx... (I use it
exclusively at work, where I can't get pine... well I could email myself
the source code, and try to find the time to learn to compile an
executable that doesn't tick off the sys admin. And install it in my
equivilant of $HOME/bin... BUT I'm a lowly production associate who could
lose his job by installing unapproved software on company machines so
that's out...
Anyway there are only about two reasons I don't like mailx:
1) it doesn't do attachments. < I never minded using uuencode.
But it's getting rare, and anytime I use it to send something
to any non-unix/dos enthusist, I get flak about the recipiants
mail software not knowing what to do with it...> And uudecode
doesn't work well on the mime encoded files I sometimes get
2) It's not so easy to use for multipal mailbox files... (true,
it's possible to point it at another file before you invoke it, or
at least I've read that it is... But that's not the same thing
as switching back and forth from one "folder" to another like I
do in pine...
And to be honest, If I hadn't figured out how to get pine to dump pico and
implicitly invoke vim as an alternate editor... I wouldn't like it either.
But I did, so I do. <most of the time anyway>
Hmmmnnn well I'd like to chat some more but my honey just said
goodnight... And if she's to deeply asleep to cuddle back when I get there
I won't get much rest tonight so it's time to send and sign off...
| --- ___
| <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
| ^ J(tWdy)P
| ~\___/~ <<jtwdyp AT ttlc DOT net>>
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From: SpAmEnOt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: viewing non ascii attatchments with pine ??????????
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:19:57 +0000
Reply-To: SpAmEnOt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 9 Mar 1999, Michael Powe wrote:
> If you want graphics, you're going to have to use a graphical
> environment. That means X or something like it. At the command line,
> you're in a command shell -- it does not do graphics. If you want to
> pipe "raw text" to the screen, you can just look at the file in less.
> Just use a mailer's "save attachment" option to save it to a file
> first. I don't know what good that is going to do you.
Well thanks for the almost correct info Michael...
Contrary to what most gui users think, the command shell can <indirectly>
do graphics. I simply invokes a console application that does do them...
Ummmnnn That is, of course, assuming that the CONSOLE itself is capable.
But if X can display graphics on the monitor, so can a console app. The
fact that the bash shell itself <thank goodness> uses a text based user
interface doesn't mean that graphics can't be displayed.
When I said I won't have a gui I was refering to the interface... NOT the
ability to view graphics. My command line <console> linux can to view
graphics from the command line. I usualy type "seejpeg filename" to view
a variety of IMAGE files, jpegs of course, but I've also used it on gif and
even windows style bmp files. Of course it takes a second or three to
display the file, but it DOES work.
Seejpeg also works to view image files mailed as mime attatchments while
I'm in my console invoked pine session. I open the message which displays
any normal message body text as well as a list of mime atatchments. then I
type a "v" to view attatchments. Which will zoom in on the attachment list.
where I can type an "s" to start the dialog to save the attachment to a file
like you suggested I do. OR I can type another "v" to actualy view the
selected attachment. IF pine knows howw to view it does so, if pine doesn't
know what to do with the attachment type then it looks for a mailcap file.
Images work just fine via seejpeg. plain <ascii> text works just fine. BUT
when it encounters non ascii text it assumes I need the file processed so
that I can view it. It refers to the mailcap file, which UNFORTUNATELY is
still the default file (with only the FEW modifications that I could figure
out) that was written by someone who presumed everybody would be running X
applications. Then since X isn't installed shownonascii fails. Then since
there is no pretty output to view pine thinks it can't view the file...
Yes I know I can see the raw text of these attachments by saving them to a
file, (which will at least undo the mime encodeing) And then more or less
view the said file... BUT my whole point was that I wanted to be able to
view the raw text before I save it to a diskfile. I tend to forget to rm
the dang things when I'm done looking at them so I only want to actualy
save the good ones.
But in the case of non-ascii plaintext files this fails.
And if it's an htm file attactchment it doesn't even try.
I posted the origianal message in hopes that someone who knows how to
configure pine better than I do, or with a much better understanding of
mailcap files, could tell me how to get all text atatchments that don't
have a working pine setup for viewer selection, or specific mailcap entry
to view them could get sent as raw text to more (or I'd prefer less, but I
read in "man metamail" that less interferes with the workings of termcap
based mailviewers...<sigh> But more would do. THEN if I deside to keep
the dang thing, I'd use the save command...
And maybe I was hopeing that some "expert" out there would take pity on me
and help me set up viewing filters for as many text types as possible
<without X> and then get the rest fed in raw form to ANY pager letting the
only gui I can stand to use <the one between my ears> process the text
content. ACTUALY I was really hopeing that in as many cases as possible
I could strip ALL the formating and just leave the actual text content with
zero fancy typefaces etc... as I often have a hard time trying to read the
gui'd up stuff even when my software does display them.
But like I said above, Thanks, You might not have had the info I need, But
YOU were willing to share your knowlege, and that makes you the kind of
user linux needs...
| ~^~ ~^~
| <*> <*> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
| ^ J(tWdy)P
| \___/ <<jtwdyp AT ttlc DOT net>>
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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:51:24 GMT
John Hasler wrote:
>
> Johan Kullstam writes:
> > i'd love to use AMS-LaTeX but the US DoD requires all documentation be
> > submitted in `MS-Word 6.0 for Windows' format.
>
> You really should write to your congressman and/or Ralph Nader about this.
> Maybe one of the news organizations would be interested. Might make an a
> nice little investigative reporting bit.
Been there, done that...got a nice letter back from my congress critter
saying he would forward it to the proper people... even got a response
back from one...haven't heard anything since...
John
--
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Senior Associate GATS, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11864 Canon Blvd - Suite 101
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Newport News, VA 23606
(757) 873-5920 (voice) (757) 873-5920 (fax)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.admin.isp
From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hacked login (telnet)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:27:17 -0500
Contents of hosts.deny
ALL:ALL
Contents of hosts.allow
in.telnetd: allowableip, allowableip, allowableip
or you can just put your entire subnet in the allow file
instead of individual ip addresses.
HTH
Colin
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}I want to allow telnet access to a Internet connected server;
}but *only* form the local LAN connected machines.
}Is this possible or not. I do not wish telnet access available
}via the Net at all.
}I have disabled most unnecessary services via the inetd.conf including
}the telnet deamon. I would re-enable it if I could limit it's authority
}via hosts.allow or hosts.deny - but how? Nothing I've tried does the trick.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Modem Init String
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:08:14 GMT
Cengiz Oezcan writes:
> my ISP tells me that I have to send a certain init string to
> my modem and even gives me the sring.
Most likely, your ISP doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. What
is he telling you to send?
--
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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:49:49 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 08 Mar 1999 16:08:43 -0500, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >> I look at it this way. 99% of the i386 arch all the way to the pent
> >> II has a 1-2 gig memory limit. Dispite the 4 gig addressability of
> >> the CPU, the chipset will only allow up to 1 gig. more than that is
> >> ignored and is inaccessable because of the chipset. You want more
> >> memory, use a computer that can handle more memory instead of
> >> complaining about no support for something the hardware can't even do.
> >
> >Exactly, but in the case of the Xeon the hardware *can* address 64 GB
> >or RAM.
> >
> >> to actually NEED that kind of memory, you must have some serious data
> >> to crunch. our news server /w 64 meg ram runs our news server going
> >> through 3 gigs a day and keeps up no prob...
> >
> >Yup. I'm not talking about 3 GB of netnews a day. That's about 120
> >MB/hour, or 33 KB/sec, which is peanuts. I'm talking in the range of
> >10-100 GB/hour (and up) using a high end RDBMS and other high end data
> >warehousing tools. At this point, we're talking 3-30 MB/sec. 4-16
> >Xeon's can do a pretty good job chewing through that kind of data, if
> >they can keep their feeds busy. That means that memory thrashing is a
> >no-no.
>
> how about an entire movie? Titanic was done using linux on alphas.
> It put out terabytes of data. linux was used to colormatch the
> digital images and put together the fames that made up the movie. I
> wouldn't consider that usual usage. They needed computing power, they
> got alphas
They also had money! They were't *too* concerned between $4000 &
$10,000...
I agree..if you have the money, go for the Alpha... (the 21264 & 21364
Alphas look pretty impressive...;-)
John
--
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Senior Associate GATS, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11864 Canon Blvd - Suite 101
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Newport News, VA 23606
(757) 873-5920 (voice) (757) 873-5920 (fax)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E. Frank Ball)
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.2 Intel
Date: 12 Mar 1999 02:11:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:46:44 -0800 Richard Latimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) @
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
} E. Frank Ball wrote in message <
} >I'm having a similar problem with my laptop. I upgraded to 2.2.1 and
} >got an error that it didn't like my modem linked to /dev/cua3, so I
} >changed it to /dev/ttyS3. Worked fine until I rebooted. Every time I
} >reboot RedHat 5.2 resets the links in /dev back to the cua format.
} >What the hell is going on?
} You have an older version of pcmcia. Either upgrade or find the pcmcia
} package script that is setting /dev/modem to /dev/cua3 and change it.
I just downloaded the latest pcmcia package a couple week ago 3.0.8 or
something like that. I also have the recommended rpms from RedHat for
2.2. I'll just have to poke around through the scripts some more.
--
Frank Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: How do I print this .ps file
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 04:16:36 GMT
In our last episode (Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:01:01 +0000),
the artist formerly known as kit said:
>I have been given several files which I need to print.
>
>Trouble is, I have tried everything I can think of, and all I get is a
>copy of the file printed - not the information contained therein. It
>seems to be a Tex file, but I don't know enough to get it to work.
>
>I have a suspicion that it might be a postscript file, but my Cannon
>4300 doesn't do postscript.
You need a filter that converts PostScript to your printer's native
language. I use Magicfilter, which is a series of filters that can
recognize anything I've thrown at it yet. You need to edit your
/etc/printcap entry for your printer (in particular, the "if" value needs
to point to the filtering script) with the appropriate filters.
--
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: redhat 5.0 -> 5.2
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 04:34:47 GMT
I too upgraded from 5.0 to 5.2 using the cheapbytes CD (delivered to my door
for a total cost of $6.99) and only had a few minor problems:
1) it blew away/replaced my /etc/profile with a new one. Good thing prior to
the install I tarred up my /etc :) 2) my /dev/ stuff was a little messed up.
I did a ./MAKEDEV -n generic and all was well. (some permissions were not
right). 3) I have Linux installed on an EIDE drive but mount up a scsi drive
(Win95 disk which I pull stuff off sometimes). For some reason, it doesn't
automount that disk. Not sure why. I have to manually perform insmod for
that device and it works fine. So, I just added that to my rc.local.
So-- bottom line, for the average user it should be great. I couldn't believe
how simple it was. I just booted the CD itself and let it go.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"William H. Pridgen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tim Kelley wrote:
> >
> > Natanael Copa wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > finally i got a linux destribution. RedHat 5.0....
> > >
> > > What is the main difference between RedHat 5.0 and RedHat 5.2?
> > > Is there som easy way to update my RedHat without buying a new CD?
> >
> > The differences are huge ... definitely get 5.2; www.cheapbytes.com has
> > it for a couple of dollars.
> >
> > You can use the 5.2 cd to upgrade from 5.0 -> 5.2, but I have not tried
> > this and I don't have any idea how well it works.
>
> I did just that recently, using the CheapBytes CD, and it worked
> flawlessly.
>
> Bill Pridgen
> --
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From: Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: why dtmf_program does not start?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:46:56 +0000
I have vgetty, call my voice modem, type DTMF codes, at theat time, on my
console I get the message: DTMF codes sercivved, starting dtmf_program. But
the program defined in voice.conf
does not start.. What is going on?
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From: mondo1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: redhat rpm
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:56:26 -0600
yes I had to get 5.2 and return 5.1
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Pizzini)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix
Date: 11 Mar 1999 23:17:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11 Mar 1999 20:47:41 GMT, Nick Manka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Enter argument about usernames being of indefinite length and how the
>next time_t should be 256bits.
I'll pass on the indefinite length username argument for now,
but there is no call for extending time_t to 256 bits. A 64
bit time_t allows for over 583,344,214,000 years (i.e., over
580 billion [*] years), assuming the current 1-second-per-tick
representation. This is plenty to cover the interval from
the big bang to well past the time that the sun goes nova.
If you want to be perverse enough to argue that that isn't
enough, then 128 bits ought to be: that gives over 1.076 *
10**31 years, which exceeds several (though admittedly not all)
estimates of the overall ultimate lifetime of the universe.
The difference between that and 3.662 * 10**69 years (256
bits) is admittedly vast, but it is also meaningless.
Especially with 1-second resolution.
[*] I'm referring to an American "billion" here. That's
a "milliard" to you out there 'cross the pond who
prefer to think of a "billion" as a "million million".
--Ken Pizzini
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:10:21 GMT
On 08 Mar 1999 16:08:43 -0500, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> I look at it this way. 99% of the i386 arch all the way to the pent
>> II has a 1-2 gig memory limit. Dispite the 4 gig addressability of
>> the CPU, the chipset will only allow up to 1 gig. more than that is
>> ignored and is inaccessable because of the chipset. You want more
>> memory, use a computer that can handle more memory instead of
>> complaining about no support for something the hardware can't even do.
>
>Exactly, but in the case of the Xeon the hardware *can* address 64 GB
>or RAM.
>
>> to actually NEED that kind of memory, you must have some serious data
>> to crunch. our news server /w 64 meg ram runs our news server going
>> through 3 gigs a day and keeps up no prob...
>
>Yup. I'm not talking about 3 GB of netnews a day. That's about 120
>MB/hour, or 33 KB/sec, which is peanuts. I'm talking in the range of
>10-100 GB/hour (and up) using a high end RDBMS and other high end data
>warehousing tools. At this point, we're talking 3-30 MB/sec. 4-16
>Xeon's can do a pretty good job chewing through that kind of data, if
>they can keep their feeds busy. That means that memory thrashing is a
>no-no.
how about an entire movie? Titanic was done using linux on alphas.
It put out terabytes of data. linux was used to colormatch the
digital images and put together the fames that made up the movie. I
wouldn't consider that usual usage. They needed computing power, they
got alphas
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