Linux-Misc Digest #419, Volume #25               Fri, 11 Aug 00 21:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux on Toshiba laptop ?? ("Scott D. Smith")
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Linux on a comp from mdg.ca (Fred Nastos)
  Re: Linux on a comp from mdg.ca (Fred Nastos)
  Re: random Linux freezing (Janet)
  Re: Address Book or PIM for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition (Robert J Carter)
  Re: Linux on AMD (David C.)
  Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition (Robert J Carter)
  Re: Linux on AMD (David C.)
  Re: Couldn't open Netscape ("ywk@SuSE")
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Source adjustment using .dif (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Problem with dosemu (Andres Soolo)
  Re: Changing source code using dif file (Andres Soolo)
  Re: LILO malfunction (Andres Soolo)
  Re: Changing how netscape/box is ID'd (David Rysdam)
  Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level (saan)
  Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level (Dances With 
Crows)
  Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level (Kichi Leung)
  Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level
  Re: Dual NICs of same type? ("Don Khan")

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From: "Scott D. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on Toshiba laptop ??
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:02:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I loaded Mandrake 7.0 on a 2675?XDVD for some one at the office
I found a link somewhere to toggle the Toshiba BIOS access to the PCMCIA 
to "standard" or some such thing. Just don't use AUTO or CARDBUS settings.
There were 3 settings. Sweet laptop, we even got the winmodem (Lucent)
working. Try Linux for laptops web site. I don't have the URL at the moment
sorry.

Good luck,
Scott

E J wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >     I've tried to install Linux Mandrake 7.1 on my Toshiba Satellite
> > 2655XDVD laptop. After installing, I had to reboot. While booting, the
> > laptop holds on " Starting PCMCIA ". What to do ???
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >        Dieter Janssen
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> 
> I don't know, but you might want to shut down PCMCIA services until you
> figure it out what is wrong and see if everything else is
> OK beyond the PCMCIA services.
> At the lilo prompt, get into single user mode
> 
> lilo: linux single
> # cd /etc/rc.d/rc5.d
> # rm S45pcmcia
> # reboot
> 
> Once you get pcmcia fix relink it
> # cd /etc/rc.d/rc5.d
> # ln -s ../init.d/pcmcia S45pcmia

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:03:39 -0700

Robert Krawitz wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
> 
> > I don't see any worms.  Of the Morris variety or otherwise...
> 
> I guess we've just discovered that worms can infect a blowfish, after
> all.

No. It's GNU-GPL did a core dump on its groupies. ;-)

> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
> 
> Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
> 
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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From: Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a comp from mdg.ca
Date: 11 Aug 2000 22:06:34 GMT

Mike Frisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11 Aug 2000 14:06:15 GMT, Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Did you already buy the system from them?  If not, do yourself a huge
> favour and do not.  MDG has a terrible reputation for selling poor quality
> machines.  

Hence the price. Thanks for the warning. I will shell out a few more
dollars for a better system.

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From: Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a comp from mdg.ca
Date: 11 Aug 2000 22:07:40 GMT

Andre-John Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8n118n$qr2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you provide the specs of the machine that you want to buy, maybe
> people at the other ends of Canada and the world could provide an
> answer.

That's kinda the problem. MDG won't give them all to me over email.
I was concerned that some of the finer components on the inside
were garbage.

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From: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: random Linux freezing
Date: 11 Aug 2000 15:12:24 -0700

Crni Gorac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm experiencing strange problems with a PentimPro/166 machine. After
> installing RedHat Linux 6.2, machine is freezing at random intervals
> upon boot. It is freezing even in runlevel 3, without X windows, so I
> guess this has nothing to do with it. First thing that I'm usually
> doing upon installation is to compile kernel and machine is always
> freezing during this operation, sometimes when compiling kernel and
> sometimes when compiling modules. RedHat Linux was installed previously
> on this machine and was working without any problems (and several
> versions of kernel were recompiled). During last two months machine was
> dual booted between Windows NT Workstation 4.0 and SCO OpenServer
> 5.0.5a, also without any problems. Nothing changed in the BIOS in the
> meantime.

I had this problem as well, but I was able to compile a kernel in
single-user mode (at the LILO prompt, type linux single).  Hope this
helps!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Address Book or PIM for Linux?
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:06:50 GMT

Hi,

You may want to take a look at http://joydesk.com.  Hope this helps!


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  J Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking for an address book/PIM program for Linux
> which would run in character mode (console app just
> like the minicom program) with ability to export info
> to text files. I am not interested in GNOME bloatware
> apps btw. Anybody want to recommend their favorite
> app? Thanks for replying.
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
> http://invites.yahoo.com/
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert J Carter)
Subject: Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:42:24 GMT

>>                 "Microsoft is the QWERTY of Operating Systems" - SDG
>>       "Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis" - background song
>> for
>>       a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?"
>> commercial.
>>   (HINT: The song is "Dies Irae" from the Mozart Requiem.)
> 

HINT: It AIN'T from "the" Mozart Requiem. Ignoring that fact that he
wrote more than one, it's from the Latin funeral mass - and therefore,
part of *all* requiems.

-- 
Robert J Carter at Oghma dot on dot ca
Use My initials to reach me via e-mail

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: 11 Aug 2000 18:48:16 -0400

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> And I *ALWAYS* compile from source for the other stuff.

_everything_ else?  You actually bother to recompile ls, cat, bash, and
all the other common tools?

Why bother with a distribution at all, if you do that?

Somehow, I find that hard to believe.

-- David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert J Carter)
Subject: Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:49:08 GMT

In article <8n1qsh$pte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That s the correct answer.  If I ask you for information about John the
> Baptist are you going to repeat the biblical stories to me, or are you
> going to direct me to the appropriate chapter and verse, plus a few
> titles of modern books about what is known about him? I hope the
> latter.
> 

I suspect that his objection - as mine is - is based on your tone, not
the content. It really is possible, you know, to explain things to
people without talking down to them.

> 
> It's a worthless 2c.  Your opinion runs against the principles of
> education and research.  

Rule #1: NO opinion is useless. 

Rule #2: If you _study_ a "worthless" opinion, you will in all
probability be able to determine WHY somebody thinks the way they do,
and therefore know what information the speaker needs or is
missing. The listening (and subsequent analysis) is called
RESEARCH. The teaching comes afterwards.

Geeze - I *hate* it when people use information or superiour
understanding as a weapon to make themselves feel superiour instead of
a tool to help others. But then again, that's just MY worthless
opinion :-)

-- 
Robert J Carter at Oghma dot on dot ca
Use My initials to reach me via e-mail

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: 11 Aug 2000 18:50:33 -0400

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Only sucky-crappy distros like RH, Debian, etc. , and so on you need to
> recompile for anything other than the generic stuff.

*sigh*

RedHat most certainly does release 586 and 686 kernel builds.  My PII
and PPro systems all run with an i686-built kernel.

> Even soundcard, SMP, pentium, ata/dma a bunch of scsi, GForce video,
> etc runs right out of the box without any messing around.

Congratulations.  Yours is not the only distribution that works "out of
the box".

But I'm surprised you are concerned with "messing around", since (as you
wrote in another post in this thread) you recompile everything anyway.

-- David

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From: "ywk@SuSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Couldn't open Netscape
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:11:19 -0700

thanks very much guys, I have installed a bug fix package
it works fine now!
thank you so much

ywk



Jeff Peterson wrote:
> 
> "ywk@SuSE" wrote:
> > I am running SuSE 6.4 with netscape 4.72. The problem is Netscape
> > couldnot pop up on all my users' desktop. I have checked the settings,
> > nothing wrong! Just SuSE keeps writing a lock file to .netscape
> > directory that block the initialization of the browser, why?
> > there is no problem on root. anything i can do about it please?
> 
> You may have to set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include the netscape
> libraries. Also, set your MOZILLA_HOME to point to the netscape
> directory.
> This should work. I have the same problem with a couple of accounts on
> my home computer.
> 
> Jeff Peterson

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss,alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:42:31 GMT

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> John Hasler wrote:
> > 
> > Andrew Halliwell writes to the blowfish:
> > > Are you thick, or what?
> > 
> > You can only play a fish for so long before you have to either gaff it or
> > release it.  He's given some good sport, but he's getting tired now.  Let's
> > let him go.
> 
> 00000000 596f 7520 6172 6520 6a75 7374 2064 656e
> 00000010 7969 6e67 2074 6865 2072 6561 6c69 7479
> 00000020 2e20 556e 7769 6c6c 696e 6720 746f 2061
> 00000030 6363 6570 7420 7468 6520 7472 7565 2e0a

voltaire would defend your right to say this -- with his life if need be!

> -- 
> - Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
> user.
>   (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
> --
> - If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
> hands,
>   lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
> time.
>   But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
> takes
>   Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
> - The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
> geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
>   geek + vi | ~/emacs
> ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
>   newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
> EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
> - My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
> deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
>   Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
> needle pulling thread.)
>   lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
> will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
>   (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

a masterpiece signature like this could use some ascii art.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Source adjustment using .dif
Date: 11 Aug 2000 19:52:01 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8n1qkn$7rg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Provided in the source package is a file:
> 'xfig.3.2.2.dif' which contains a list of all the difference the SuSE team
> made to the xfig source code. Is there a program or script I can run with
> 'xfig.3.2.2.dif' as an argument which will make all the changes listed in the
> 'dif' file to the source code.

That is the purpose of the patch(1) program.  See its man page to see how
to use it.  (I can't tell whether you want to run it in the usual mode, to
change upstream to distribution-specific code; or to run it in reverse,
with the "-R" flag, to change distribution-specific to upstream code.)

> A copy of xfig.3.2.2.dif is appended below

It is not necessary to include the whole thing just to illustrate.

> **************** xfig.3.2.2.dif ******************
>
> --- Fig.ad
> +++ Fig.ad    Wed Apr  7 18:48:59 1999


-- 
Paul Kimoto
Disclaimer: Other than explicit citations of URLs, hyperlinks appearing
in this article have been inserted without the permission of the author.

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From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with dosemu
Date: 12 Aug 2000 00:04:39 GMT

Martin Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Unlike Windows, DOS can't live on virtual directories, so dosemu has
>> to provide it whole virtual disks.  Seems the original poster didn't
>> have that or it isn't defined in dosemu.conf .

> Well, I might have got some of the terms wrong...in fact, that
> setup-bootdir program (script?) is supposed to create such a directory
> for dosemu...but it crashes without creating it.
When I last used dosemu, I could make it live on virtual directory only
by creating a virtual floppy and making its AUTOEXEC.BAT hook up
the directory and then shadowing the floppy.  Dosemu might be able
to do it by itself for now.

> What is that you think I should define in dosemu.conf?
$_hdimage allows you to define real or virtual hard disk partitions.
You could create an empty image, boot from a flopppy and copy things
to that image.  Or you could boot from hdimage.first that should be
included with dosemu distribution and use lredir to access the Linux
namespace.

-- 
Andres Soolo   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Try to get all of your posthumous medals in advance.

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From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing source code using dif file
Date: 12 Aug 2000 00:08:18 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 'xfig.3.2.2.dif' which contains a list of all the difference the SuSE
> team made to the xfig source code. Is there a program or script I can
> run with 'xfig.3.2.2.dif' as an argument which will make all the changes
> listed in the 'dif' file to the source code. I will then enable the
Yes, it's called patch.  See patch(1) for more details.

-- 
Andres Soolo   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hear about...
        the guru who refused Novacain while having a tooth pulled because
        he wanted to transcend dental medication?

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From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO malfunction
Date: 12 Aug 2000 00:12:18 GMT

Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the computer boots and says "LI" instead of "LILO:" and you can't do
> anything. I think you can take a distribution cd and fix it by doing an
Apparently, your kernel is out of the reach for LILO.  Since LILO uses
BIOS to boot the kernel, it has several limitations for the location
of the kernel: in most i386 machines, the kernel had to be within the
first 1024 tracks (528MB) of the hard disk, in most latter machines the
limi is at about 8GB.

The usual way to fix it is to create a small partition in the beginning
of the disk, mount it to /boot and put kernels always in it.

Also, I've heard the newest LILOs can avoid it.  I don't know how they
do that but then again--I've not looked at them seriously.  You might
try them.

-- 
Andres Soolo   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Do nothing unless you must, and when you must act -- hesitate.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: Re: Changing how netscape/box is ID'd
Date: 11 Aug 2000 23:34:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try www.junkbuster.org

And Praedor Tempus Spoke:
>Is there a method by which I can change the "User Agent" id
>that my box provides (when surfing with Netscape) to sites?
>I would like to eliminate/change information that identifies 
>my system as funning Mozilla 4.73 on a linux box of a given
>kernel.  If nothing else, I would like to simply eliminate
>the kernel and linux information, perhaps even changing it to
>another OS.
>
>Is there a simple way that wont break my browsing/browser?
>
>praedor


-- 
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net

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From: saan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:23:27 -0700

I have newly installed SuSE 6.1, doing uname -a gives me Linux 2.2.7.
Very difficult to play with. In reading SuSE Linux book that came along
with the CD-ROM and KDE (another book) left me with an impression that
by going to init level 5 I can launch X window and then KDE. I modified
inittab entry x:5:initdefault. I save a copy of my working iniitab but
off course
is inaccessible right now.
How do I get back to single user mode ie init level 1 and also allows
me either modify:
1. /etc/inittab to set the level back to 2 or 3
2. I think im in init level 1 by entering at LiLo boot: init=/bin/sh
 but / is mounted read only.  How to make this RW?
3. Off course I can copy the old into inittab i save to the working one
 but since its read only I cant do much.
4. How one modifies a LiLo to allow me to boot into level 2 or 3?

Learned these:
1. Dont mess around with level not listed or unknown :-)
2. SuSE documentation is difficult to understand, and does not
have give you clue how to recover for things like this.
3. There is no editor at level 1? Even though its read only mode for
FS mounted,  well I guess you cant do much.
4. As comparison, FreeBSD allows me to recover by doing the following
  boot -s to get into single user mode
  # mount -u /
  # mount -a -t ufs
  # swapon -a
  and this provides me access to the files and editors.

Any help would be much appreciated.  TIA

Cid


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level
Date: 12 Aug 2000 00:37:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:23:27 -0700, saan wrote:
>I have newly installed SuSE 6.1, doing uname -a gives me Linux 2.2.7.
>Very difficult to play with. In reading SuSE Linux book that came along
>with the CD-ROM and KDE (another book) left me with an impression that
>by going to init level 5 I can launch X window and then KDE. I modified

...which is totally wrong; SuSE uses runlevel 3 for starting X.  This is
discussed in the X chapter of the dead-tree manual.

>How do I get back to single user mode ie init level 1 and also allows
>me either modify:
>1. /etc/inittab to set the level back to 2 or 3
>2. I think im in init level 1 by entering at LiLo boot: init=/bin/sh
> but / is mounted read only.  How to make this RW?
>4. How one modifies a LiLo to allow me to boot into level 2 or 3?

One types "linux single" at the LILO: prompt, and then, "mount / -o
remount,rw".  Runlevel 3 starts X, but you should run SaX first.
Actually, if you run SaX and everything works OK, you get the option to
switch /etc/inittab to a default of runlevel 3.  Run SaX, like the
manual advises you to do!

>Learned these:
>1. Dont mess around with level not listed or unknown :-)
>2. SuSE documentation is difficult to understand, and does not
>have give you clue how to recover for things like this.

Yes it does; you just didn't read carefully enough.  Look in the index
for "single-user mode" and "disaster recovery".

>3. There is no editor at level 1? Even though its read only mode for
>FS mounted,  well I guess you cant do much.

/usr/bin/vi.  /usr/bin/pico.  /bin/ed.  :-)

>4. As comparison, FreeBSD allows me to recover by doing the following
>  boot -s to get into single user mode
>  # mount -u /
>  # mount -a -t ufs
>  # swapon -a
>  and this provides me access to the files and editors.

Similar thing in Linux.  See above.  (As comparison, by default, FreeBSD
makes the default shell sh.  Not bash, sh, which should've been killed
and buried ages ago.  And bash is in /usr/local/bin.(!)  Most Unix flavors
are similar, but it's the subtle differences that bite you in the arse.)

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/           ==Henry Spencer

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From: Kichi Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:35:41 +0800

On Sat, 12 Aug 2000, saan wrote:
>I have newly installed SuSE 6.1, doing uname -a gives me Linux 2.2.7.
>Very difficult to play with. In reading SuSE Linux book that came along
>with the CD-ROM and KDE (another book) left me with an impression that
>by going to init level 5 I can launch X window and then KDE. I modified
>inittab entry x:5:initdefault. I save a copy of my working iniitab but

If i'm not mistaken it should read id:5:initdefault. The first 1 or 2 letters
before the first colon must be unique.

>off course
>is inaccessible right now.
>How do I get back to single user mode ie init level 1 and also allows
>me either modify:
>1. /etc/inittab to set the level back to 2 or 3

At the lilo prompt "boot:" enter "linux 1" (without quotes of course).
Then use vi or some other editor to edit /etc/inittab and change the
initdefault line.

>2. I think im in init level 1 by entering at LiLo boot: init=/bin/sh
> but / is mounted read only.  How to make this RW?

Linux mounts it read-only so that e2fsck (file systems checker) can be run on
the partition mounted on /. IMHO, don't try to remount it rw till you boot into
runlevel 3 or 5.

<snip>

>4. How one modifies a LiLo to allow me to boot into level 2 or 3?

You don't modify lilo for that :-) Entering the command "linux 1" at the lilo
prompt instructs init (the program handling startup things) to start in
runlevel 1 instead of whatever is the default runlevel in /etc/inittab.

<snip>

>2. SuSE documentation is difficult to understand, and does not
>have give you clue how to recover for things like this.

Don't just read whatever they give you, surf the Net (e.g.,
http://www.linuxdoc.org/) for more docs.

>3. There is no editor at level 1? Even though its read only mode for
>FS mounted,  well I guess you cant do much.

Try loading vi....

<snip>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level
Reply-To: Steven Smolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:09:17 GMT

saan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have newly installed SuSE 6.1, doing uname -a gives me Linux 2.2.7.
>Very difficult to play with. In reading SuSE Linux book that came along
>with the CD-ROM and KDE (another book) left me with an impression that
>by going to init level 5 I can launch X window and then KDE. I modified
>inittab entry x:5:initdefault. I save a copy of my working iniitab but
>off course
>is inaccessible right now.

Other posters have given you some more detailed advice, but FYI, the 
runlevels differ from one distro to another.

Functionality         RedHat Runlevel     SuSE Runlevel
===============       ===============     =============
single user
no network                   1                  1 

multi-user
network                      3                  2

multi-iser
network                      5                  3
graphical login

You can see what's getting "S"tarted and "K"illed by the scripts 
in /etc/rc.d/rcX.d/  (on SuSE, where X=the runlevel).

Steve

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From: "Don Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Dual NICs of same type?
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:09:31 GMT

The 3C905 are PCI cards. I have had no problems getting Linux installed with
them. What you could do is make sure that the external card is in the lower
numbered PCI slot and has the lower numbered MAC address. This should become
eth0. This is what I have and it works great. I am also using modules for
the drivers. I'm using RedHat6.2 if it help.

"Lola Slade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I also have two nics-3com905. I am trying to figure out how to set them
up. My distro
> has set up the drivers as loadable modules so I am adding the following to
> /etc/modutils/aliases :
>
> alias eth0 3c59x
> alias eth1 3c59x
> [options  ?? ]
>
> My question is what "options" line needs to follow this to differentiate
the irq's and
> io addresses? What irq's and io should I use or should I just use my bios
to set this?
>
> 3com recommends irq 10,11,12 and I have 10 and 12 free but I don't know
what io
> addresses to use.
>
> Thanks,
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> David Steuber wrote:
>
> > Will two 3Com 3C905B-TX type PCI NICs play nicely together in a single
> > Linux box, or should I get another type of NIC for eth1?
> >
> > I have a PPro that I use as a router with a 10bt card for my DSL modem
> > and a 100bt card to my hub (I wish it was a switch).  These work
> > well.  My new computer is PCI only, just about.  I would like another
> > 100bt PCI NIC so that I have IPForwarding/Masquerading capability
> > before I take the machine to my ISP.  The reason for this is that I
> > don't want to consume more than one IP address should I add additional
> > machines.  The machines hanging off of the second NIC can use private
> > IP addresses like I use in my home network.
> >
> > --
> > David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
> > NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.
> >
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look
+it+up
> >
> > The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
> >         --- Devon Miller
>



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