Linux-Misc Digest #434, Volume #19               Sat, 13 Mar 99 02:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: Syquest Sparq 1.0 Gig parallel external ("Mark R. Miller")
  binary Emacs 20.x for i386? (Tom Roche)
  Re: best offline newsreader? (Richard Steiner)
  xwindows with non-root user (sebasto)
  Connectix (Logitech) QuickcamPro (DSWOZSW)
  Re: [Q]windowmanager and kde/gnome question (Michael Perry)
  Backup of NT Partition with Linux to remote Tape Drive on SUN/HP 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: ICQ for Java ("Denton")
  Re: trn takes too long to get overview file (brian moore)
  Read text fileson DOS partition? ("Bill")
  Partition Software Recommendation? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Printing man or xman pages (Louise Adderholdt)
  Re: Read text fileson DOS partition? (Louise Adderholdt)
  Re: Linux Box Hardware (brian moore)
  Re: ICQ for Java (Mykool)
  Re: best offline newsreader? (Michael Fleming)

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From: "Mark R. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Syquest Sparq 1.0 Gig parallel external
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 03:49:53 GMT

Just did it myself. I can only speak for Red Hat 5.2, since this is my
first brush with Linux.

The top-level module you need is called "paride". The docs on how to do
the rest are in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/paride/paride.txt. The
protocol driver (I think) is "epat" and the low-level driver you want is
"pd".

If you don't have a copy of paride.txt, let me know and I'll e-mail it
to you.

jim wrote:

> Anybody have any idea how to get a sparq 1 gig running with linux. I
> know there's a HOWTO out there, but I can't find it.
> Thankx in advance


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From: Tom Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: binary Emacs 20.x for i386?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 23:02:07 -0500

I have access to a PC clone running Linux (Redhat 5.2 on i386). It
seems to work well enough, but it doesn't have Emacs. I saw that
metalab.unc.edu has binaries of 19.34, but I've grown accustomed to
running GNU Emacs 20.3.1 on NT. (Plus I wanna run JDE, which works
much better with 20.x Emacsen.) 

Can anyone recommend where I can get suitable Emacs binaries? If I
gotta compile I will, but I'm a Linux newb; I'd just as soon pull down
pre-built and get to work.

Your assistance is appreciated, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:51:40 -0600

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (david grant)
spake unto us, saying:

>Surely we are not asking too much for easy-to-use (cool?) X-window
>interfaces to Unix newsreaders or other widely used applications such
>as email clients or fax programs?

I think that asking for easy-to-use interfaces for standards-compliant
newsreaders is a good thing.  Software should be both powerful and easy
to use, as long as existing standards aren't abused by the result.

The original poster appeared to be mocking existing Unix tools (which
are generally both well-behaved and sophisticated in their own context)
while holding his preferred pretty-but-limited tools on a pedestal, and
that type of approach was (not surprisingly) met with hostility.

Some of the subsequent messages from him are/were MUCH better, IMhO.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
    OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
    WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
          Consistency: The last refuge of the unimaginative.

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From: sebasto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: xwindows with non-root user
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:26:00 GMT

i am unable to get xwindows to start with any user other than root.
thanks for any help in advance.
sleb


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From: DSWOZSW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Connectix (Logitech) QuickcamPro
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:36:01 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

HiYa,
Anybody know of any compiled X86 stuff for the Color Quickcam Pro. Tried
the xqcam stuff for the other Connectix cams but no go - the code is
camera dependent. I'm running Red Hat 5.2.
Thanks.
Cheers
Dana
-- 
               [EMAIL PROTECTED]     ( BearAir )
     http://www.cftnet.com/members/kuhuna
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         "When facts are few, experts are many."
                           Donald R. Gannon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: [Q]windowmanager and kde/gnome question
Date: 13 Mar 1999 05:23:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:37:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I am a unix user that will buy a pc and run only linux on it.
>I have SuSe 6.0 dist. and thought I start out with that.
>
>I don't like graphical filemanagers and I don't really see the
>point with them since I feel I am much faster and more flexible
>with a simple dtterm running korn shell. Add some awk,sed,perl,vi
>to that and many many things can be done quickly.
>
>I do want a windowmanager that can handle my icnonified shells and
>programs and stuff like that though . From the specs and looks WM
>and Enlightenment seems to be very nice. VM for looks and
>functionality and E mostly for looks (at the moment).
>
>So now to my questions:
>
>SuSe seems to be KDE equiped as default, maybe to get microsoft users
>to feel more at home.
>So how does it work, do I run WM and KDE at the same time?
>If I want GNOME/VM  instead of KDE/WM what will be the difference ?
>
>Thanks if anyone can sort this out for me.
>
>regards
>JS
>
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Hi-

SuSE does seem to be rather kde'ified at the start of things.  If you want
to shift to a gnome/enlightenment thing, its quite easy and so is moving
to windowmaker.  I dont know if you care to roll your own stuff, but SuSE
has released rpm files for both kde and gnome so getting there is quite
easy.  Installing windowmaker and enlightenment on suse is quite painless.
I did the gnome 1.0.1 thing with rpms and had a few minor issues; but I
really enjoy gnome.  It adds a nice touch to my "enlightened desktop".
Check out ftp.suse.com for kde updates and www.gnome.org for overall news.
There is a link there with the gnome rpms and another for tarball
archives.

Personally, I think that enlightenment plus gnome is plenty cool.  I get
to see a lot of great apps and work in an environment that seems
enjoyable.  Enlightenment particularly seems quite gnomeified at most
things.

Check out the sides and see what you think.

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Backup of NT Partition with Linux to remote Tape Drive on SUN/HP
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:54:26 GMT

I work on a Sun Solaris (have access to HP HP-UX) System.  Now I got
a notebook with Windows NT.  I add Linux to the notebook.

Sometimes I'm forced to use NT and I would like to be independent
of our local IT.  For that Reason I need a Backup of my NT Partition
to prevent any damage of my Linux during Installation of NT by IT.

I thing it should be possible to backup the whole NT Partition with something
like:

dd if=/dev/hda1 | rsh hp-workstation "dd o=/dev/rmt/0mb"

maybe I can do some on the fly compression (/dev/hda1 is 2G Byte)

dd if=/dev/hda1 | gzip -c -9 | rsh hp-workstation "dd o=/dev/rmt/0mb"

Is there anybody who has any additional tip or better some experience?

What do the YOU think.  Will the restore of this backup work?

Thanks in Advance,
  Joerg

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From: "Denton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ICQ for Java
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:06:07 -1000




William O'Neal wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>i've been trying like hell to get ICQ for Java working for RH Linux 5.2
>to no avail. i've installed jdk 1.1.7 and icq fires up, but as soon as i
>get to the registration section of the setup utility icq crashes.
>
>does anyone have any ideas?


Yes, get LICQ.  The java version of ICQ is buggy and has a habit of
consuming resources.

Jeff



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: trn takes too long to get overview file
Date: 13 Mar 1999 06:06:25 GMT

On 12 Mar 1999 09:05:39 +0100, 
 Villy Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Wlmet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I am trying to use trn for linux, Slackware 3.5.  After hitting the + it takes
> >forever to get the overview file.
> >
> >Getting overview file.........................
> >
> >The dots take forever.
> >
> 
> For how many articles?  And how long is forever?  It does need this
> information before it can sort the articles into threads.  Also, this
> depends on how fast your link to the news server is and how fast the
> server itself is.

It also depends on how how smart the news reader is.

You really only need the overview records for unread articles.  Some
newsreaders, for reasons known only to them, like to fetch the whole
overview (KNews, for example, used to do this, which is why I stopped
using it; I don't know if it still does... I know old tin's do that,
too, though that may have been fixed now, too).

SLRN doesn't fetch the whole overview, so it's only a killer when you're
behind in a group.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Read text fileson DOS partition?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:10:38 -0800

I'm still totally new, but wondering if I can read text files on a DOS
partition from a Debian 2.1 basic installation on another partition?  Until
I get more the hang of this (like learning how to get the text files into
Linux and then how to read them, I end up in Debian needing to read FAQ's
and stuff I've downloaded to the DOS partition.  Another gotcha.

I'd be grateful is someone can help me with this.  Thanks.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Partition Software Recommendation?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:17:09 GMT

Hi all,

My fdisk program from Win95 does not work for some reason; I can run the
program to create partitions on a re-zeroed HDD, set an active partition, and
then view the partition table showing the partitions created, but when I
reboot and re-run fdisk to display the partition table, no partitions are
created and any changes I tried to make by using fdisk previously don't take
effect. Can anybody comment on why this is happening?

Is there any free disk partitioning program available on the net, like a clone
of Partition Magic or Sys Comm?

Has anyone used FreeDOS (www.freedos.org) and is it any good? I am thinking
about downloading FreeDOS and using fdisk utility from FreeDOS to create
partitions but would like to know any opinions on this. Thanks for any help.

BOB

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louise Adderholdt)
Subject: Re: Printing man or xman pages
Date: 13 Mar 1999 06:25:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:18:45 -0500, John Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     Simple question: I can print to my printer with lpr -P[printer]
> [filename] fine,
> but I cannot figure out how to print man or xman pages. I tried to redirect
> the man page to a file and  then print it, but the formatting wasn't good.
> Can someone help me on this? Would like to get a nice print from the man
> page, this would aid my understanding of Linux immensely!

Probably the best way to do this is to use 'groff' on the man page
source.  'groff' automatically sends PostScript to the standard output,
so you can redirect that to a file and print the PostScript.  (I know
there's got to be a one-line way to do this, but I'm too lazy to figure
it out.)

For example, if you know the man page for 'man' is at
/usr/man/man1/man.1, you can type:

    groff -man -fN /usr/man/man1/man.1 > man.ps

If you don't know the path, the 'man' command has an option that will
tell you.  (-w, I think?)

The '-f' option allows you to pick what PostScript font you want, in
this case 'N' which is NewCentury Schoolbook-Roman (my favorite font).

The fonts are poorly documented, so I'll include them here:

    A    AvanteGarde-Book
    BM   Bookman-Light
    C    Courier
    H    Helvetica
    HN   Helvetica-Narrow
    N    NewCentury Schoolbook-Roman
    P    Palatino-Roman
    T    Times-Roman (default)

Note:  Sometimes the man pages require the use of a preprocessor such as
tbl or eqn.  If the output looks weird, you can include '-t' in the
groff command (which uses tbl, the most common) or you can use the
'grog' command to find out which preprocessors or macros you need, as in:

    grog /usr/man/man1/man.1

Hope this helps.

Louise Adderholdt


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louise Adderholdt)
Subject: Re: Read text fileson DOS partition?
Date: 13 Mar 1999 06:30:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:10:38 -0800, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm still totally new, but wondering if I can read text files on a DOS
> partition from a Debian 2.1 basic installation on another partition?  Until
> I get more the hang of this (like learning how to get the text files into
> Linux and then how to read them, I end up in Debian needing to read FAQ's
> and stuff I've downloaded to the DOS partition.  Another gotcha.

It is possible to mount a FAT32 filesystem in Linux, using the 'mount'
command.  (See the man page.)  The filesystem in question is type
'vfat'.

For more information, you can read the 'Linux+Win95 mini-HOWTO' which
goes into much more detail.

Hope this helps.

Louise Adderholdt


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Linux Box Hardware
Date: 13 Mar 1999 06:00:11 GMT

On 13 Mar 1999 03:21:18 GMT, 
 Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Well it would be nice to see some comparisons of specific SCSI drives
> versus specific UDMA drives.  Anyone know of any?  Conventional wisdom 
> (and my own experience) is that UDMA is about as good for much less $$,
> except that the really fast/expensive drives come only as SCSI.

It's not just the drive, it's the controller.  A SCSI controller (and
drive) have much more intelligence than IDE drives (and 'UDMA' is just a
fancy name for IDE).  This frees the CPU from a lot of the nonsense
involved in disk IO.

My K6-300 comes to a screeching halt when I open large mailboxes in Mutt
(okay, they're 20-30M) while running rc5des.  My SCSI machines don't
even flinch.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: Mykool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ICQ for Java
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 06:38:46 +0000

William O'Neal wrote:
> 
> i've been trying like hell to get ICQ for Java working for RH Linux 5.2
> to no avail. i've installed jdk 1.1.7 and icq fires up, but as soon as i
> get to the registration section of the setup utility icq crashes.
> 
> does anyone have any ideas?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> wil
> 
> --
> 
> MulchMagazine (www.mulchmag.com)
> 
> "Cause the world doesn't need any more humble Negroes."

I had the same problem before I too moved to licq.  But to get the Java
ICQ working, download the glibc version of jdk.  The one that is
available from the icq homepage did not work correctly for me.  I
believe jdk is available from www.blackdown.org.  I highly recommend
licq.  I had some trouble with gtkicq, so I'm not sure about how well it
works.
-- 
Michael Barnhill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte294f
ICQ 13526262

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Fleming)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Date: 13 Mar 1999 05:13:10 GMT

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I'm glad david grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said this and not me..
> Judging by the response to this topic, the Linux world seems divided
> between those who are used to working with well-established Unix
> applications and those of us who are used to graphics based Windows
> applications with an easy-to-use GUI interface.

ITYRM: s/Unix/command line/. HIH. ;-)

They're not mutually exclusive, BTW - I use a number of very good easy-to-use
GUI programs all the time.

> Surely we are not asking too much for easy-to-use (cool?) X-window
> interfaces to Unix newsreaders or other widely used applications such
> as email clients or fax programs?

Not at all - if someone can build an X-based newsreader with the power of
something like slrn (which is practically GUI in a well-sized xterm and with
"set mouse-in-xterm=1" in .slrnrc) then they've got me.

OTOH an advantage to a console app. that's well behaved in X[1] is that you
don't _need_ to be running X to use it. That's a bit more difficult to do
the other way around.

(ie. my copy of Mutt runs identically in X or console mode, but something
like Postillion or TKRat can't be run via console)
 
> Incidentally does anyone know of an X-windows fax program that is
> reasonably easy to set up and works. I have tried Hotwire and can't
> get it to work properly (although I can establish a link to the remote
> fax machine) and HylaFax seems unbelieveably complicated as far as
> setting up the modem is concerned. Is there some simpler way of
> configuring Hylafax?

Sorry - haven't looked in that direction for quite a while (I don't fax that
often, alas ;-))

Michael Fleming

[1] Practically all of them - you don't see the often unwanted effects that
you'd expect with DOS programs running in NT or Win9x DOS boxes. I did have a
small problem with BitchX once though, but I think that was me..

- -- 
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WWW: http://www.powerup.com.au/~mfleming/ | PGP: OEF8E582
Bill Gates isn't the Devil - Satan made sure Hell worked
before he opened it to the damned...

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