Linux-Misc Digest #503, Volume #19               Thu, 18 Mar 99 16:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Problem for Linux Gurus (Sasa Ostrouska)
  Why APM is not good with SMP (Sasa Ostrouska)
  Re: PCI soundcard a possibility?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How do you add up decimals under bash? (Hans Koch)
  Re: restore solaris ufsdumped tape on linux (Andrew Gabriel)
  Re: Freecell (Brian Huffman)
  Netscape 4.5.1 and Redhat 5.2 ("Roy W. Reter")
  SCSI device name ordering (**Nick Brown)
  Re: 10G disk and fdisk/diskdruid problems (Michael George)
  Re: What is the best Linux to install? (Eric Larson)
  x11amp - Unable to open the audio device ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  X - how do I..... (Yan Seiner)
  Re: LINUX on an iMac (Daniel Buettner)
  Resource Reservation Protocol (Kishore)
  Re: Connecting to DB2 5.2 through Client Configuration Assistant (David J. Devejian)
  Re: OS spec's and limits (Michael Powe)
  Re: LINUX on an iMac (Rod Smith)
  Solaris 7 partition ("Walter L. Williams")
  Re: hard disk installation problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Freecell ("Steve D. Perkins")
  Re: VFAT panic,  Kernel 2.2.3 (Igor Syry)
  Re: How many $$$ does Linux save? (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: KDE vs GNOME and what about Enlightenment? ("Oliver D. Bedford")
  Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix (Fahrenheit)
  X - IRC client ? ("Rob")
  Re: Which X11Amp is stable ("Michael Schmeing")

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From: Sasa Ostrouska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem for Linux Gurus
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:41:41 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Paul Kimoto wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sasa Ostrouska wrote:
> > fvwm95: can't resolve __register_frame_info
>
> Typically this is a symptom of moving binaries between systems with
> differently-compiled libraries, e.g., taking a binary compiled by
> egcs on a system with egcs-compiled glibc and trying to use it on a
> system with gcc-compiled glibc.
>
> If you don't want to recompile, and can't get appropriate binaries
> built for you, you might want to try the hack suggested at
> http://www.garloff.de/kurt/freesoft/ .
>
> > I try also to compile some programs like KDE or Window Maker and the
>
> > problem is the same.
>
> You mean that they compile but won't run _on the same machine_?
> That would be very unexpected.
>

Yes I compiled KDE and also WM and when i restart them they die. Also I
was able to compileKDE only if I was loged in like root (su). And thet
was the same with Enlightenment.
Any Ideas why ?



> --
> Paul Kimoto   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   Anyway thank you for your response.
Sasa


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From: Sasa Ostrouska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Why APM is not good with SMP
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:56:52 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi !

        I want to ask why if i compile the APM in the kernel automaticly
unset it and it say that
APM is not safe with SMP.
I have a dual PII350

Thanks Sasa


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PCI soundcard a possibility??
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:50:51 +0000

Oliver Natt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have got a Sounblaster PCI64, which is supported by Kernel 2.2.0.

Quick warning!!  PCI64 doesn't work on most modern Alphas (as I just found
out to my cost :-( )

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From: Hans Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you add up decimals under bash?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:29:06 -0600

> I am trying to add up decimals that are contained in a string. I know
how to
> do this for integers using expr eg >expr 1 + 3 + 5 9
>
> How do I do this for floats ? eg
> >expr 12.3 + 34.5 + 67.3 fails as
> non numeric arguments

expr does not know about floats
(should have been mentioned in the gnu man pages)

But you can use awk, e.g. as follows

 echo '12.3 34.5 67.3' | awk '{ print $1 + $2 + $3 }'

Improvements depend on exactly what you want to do
(more summand, adding numbers in a file, ...).

- Hans Koch




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Gabriel)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: restore solaris ufsdumped tape on linux
Date: 18 Mar 1999 07:52:58 GMT

In article <7cps9g$n16$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Hello,
>       I have a tape which contains ufsdumped
>filesystems from a solaris machine. It was created
>using non-rewinding tape device /dev/nrst2.

>I got the messages
>Note: Doing Quad swapping
>....
>Tape reading error while restoring ...
>
>Is this due to the fact that solaris is a big endian
>machine and linux is a little endian machine?

ufsdump tape images are supposed to be endian-neutral,
but this didn't work correctly until the more recent
releases of Solaris (which exists in both endianisms).

'Tape reading error' does not sound like an endian
problem, unless the restore has done something silly
like a zero byte read as a result of misinterpreting
something on the tape. I would be tempted to try doing
the linux equivalent of...

   truss -tread ufsrestore ....

to see what's really happening.

-- 
Andrew Gabriel
Consultant Software Engineer


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From: Brian Huffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Freecell
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:37:52 -0600

Jeffrey L Straszheim wrote:
>  Anyhow, does anyone know
> where I might find this game?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jeffrey Straszheim
> Systems Engineer, Programmer
> stimuli AT shadow DOT net

I don't think it is free, but a deck of cards in my area goes for about
a buck-ninety-eight. :)

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From: "Roy W. Reter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.5.1 and Redhat 5.2
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:05:42 -0500

Hey,

Has anyone downloaded the 128bit version of Netscape 4.5.1 and received
a bus error after installing it.

4.5 runs fine...



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  Computer Specialist                 
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  Health Sciences                      
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI device name ordering
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:37:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My SCSI bus has two drives on it, at IDs 1 and 2, which are /dev/sda and
/sdb respectively.

Is there some way to tie this down so that if I add a drive with ID 0,
the existing /dev mappings don't break ?  It can be very useful to have
this flexibility in situations where you don't have full control over
the SCSI ID setup.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael George)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 10G disk and fdisk/diskdruid problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:34:31 GMT

On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> There is a big difference between a formated and unformatted disk. The
>> unformatted disk is 9.1 and formatted 8.6.
>
>Marketing, my son, marketing. They play all kinds of tricks to make you
>think you're getting more than you do. 
>
>I always knock off about 10% of the displayed capacity to get a rough
>idea of what a formatted disk looks like. 

First, this is not a case of formatting taking up the disk, for the
partitioning does not occupy space on the partition.  It's a matter of the
size of the gigabyte.

Second, you are right in that marketing drives the fact that they use
1,000,000,000 bytes as a gigabyte when they sell drives...

-Michael

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the functions he is competent to.  It is by dividing and subdividing these
republics from the national one down through all its subordinations, until it
ends in the administration of every man's farm by himself; by placing under
every one what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the
best.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Larson)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:37:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I was much impressed with SUSE, however I have a Thinkpad 365 Laptop
on which the X config utils for SUSE failed miserably. To get it
working I 1) installed RedHat 2) saved the X config files to a floppy,
3) reinstalled SUSE, copied the files over.  

For a newbie who might have a hardware collection that is off the
Linux mainstream, I might recommend RedHat. The big disadvantage to
this is no KDE. From what I have seen Gnome 1.0 isn't ready for prime
time.

I use a subscription option too - it keeps things under control. Linux
is advancing to rapidly (overall a good thing) to try to surf the
upgrade wave.

On Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:45:00 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Richard wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I am trying to install the newest and the best linux on
> >100+ workstation.  What would be the best one to choose
> >in terms of standard, support, and setup?
> >
> >Any ideas would be appreciated.
> >


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: x11amp - Unable to open the audio device
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:52:27 GMT

I got these msgs when running x11amp
  
  Unable to open the audio device
  Unable to reset audio device
   
How to solve this problem?
I can play audio cd with xplaycd without any problem.

Thx!

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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X - how do I.....
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:04:24 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How do I configure xdm to startup at boot (runlevel 5) but not on the
local console?

I need to start X at boot, but only as X server for network clients.  I
do not want to run X on the local console - in other words, the console
remains in text mode while clients can run x without having to telnet in
first and typing startx.

What files do I need to be looking at to make this happen?

RH 5.1, XFree X11R6

Thanks.

Yan

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From: Daniel Buettner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: LINUX on an iMac
Date: 18 Mar 1999 16:51:03 GMT

Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can LINUX be run on an iMac?...
I don't know if the Boston Public Library wants you sneaking
around trying to install LINUX on their iMac.  I think you
should ask a librarian first.

HAND,
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From: Kishore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Resource Reservation Protocol
Date: 18 Mar 1999 15:31:52 GMT

Hi ,

Is Resource Reservation Protocol  (RSVP) Implemented on Linux 5.2 ?
I remember seeing it in some directory while installing Linux , but could
not Find it!!
Please reply if you have any lead regarding this.
-kishore


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David J. Devejian)
Subject: Re: Connecting to DB2 5.2 through Client Configuration Assistant
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:40:19 -0500

In article 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I can't connect to my new database I created on my Linux machine.  I
> continually get this error when trying to connect:
> 
> 
> [IBM][CLI Driver] SQL30081N  A communication error has been detected.
> Communication protocol being used: "TCP/IP".  Communication API being used:
> "SOCKETS".  Location where the error was detected: "".  Communication
> function detecting the error: "connect".  Protocol specific error code(s):
> "10061", "*", "*".  SQLSTATE=08001
> 
> 
> I found that in the Help within the error that DB2COMM on the server needs
> to have the correct entry in it - whether it's TCP/IP or APPC.  Does Linux
> have a DB2COMM setting somewhere for it's database?  I know where it is for
> UDB on NT, but is there such a thing for Linux?
> 

I am suffering from similar errors, or at least I was until I had to 
sacrifice the memory on my db2 machine for a few days.  I have not 
found a solution, however, there are several threads regarding this on 
IBM's news server (news.software.ibm.com), which is publically 
accessible.  I havent had a chance to check the solutions due to the 
memory loss I mentioned above, once I get the hardware up an running 
again, Ill be looking in to this as well.  Let me know how you make 
out.

-- 
regards,
David J. Devejian
widsith <at> panix <dot> com

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS spec's and limits
Date: 17 Mar 1999 21:04:55 -0800

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>>>>> "jayco1116" == jayco1116  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    jayco1116> 1. Is it a 64 or 32 bit operating system

32-bit on Intel.

    jayco1116> 4. What is the max file size tar can handle

The limit will be governed by system resources and the size of the
media.  `Tar' stands for `TApe aRchive,' from its origins as an
archiving program that backed systems up to tape.  "File size" would
therefore be limited to the size of the backup media.

mp

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: LINUX on an iMac
Date: 17 Mar 1999 21:59:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can LINUX be run on an iMac?...

Yes, but not as well as on an x86 or even many older Macs.

LinuxPPC is the flavor of Linux you need to run on an iMac.  LinuxPPC
R4.1 is the last non-beta release, and it doesn't install on an iMac
except by following a bunch of hacks.  LinuxPPC pre-R5 is a beta (alpha?)
of a release that will support the iMac better, but my experiences
indicate that pre-R5 is both difficult to install and riddled with bugs
(this is NOT a criticism of LinuxPPC; it's just a reflection of the fact
that this is alpha/beta software).

If you're looking into a machine for which Linux is a major factor, I'd
recommend you look at the x86 computers rather than a Mac.  If you want an
iMac for other reasons and just want to tinker with Linux, then go for it,
but wait for the full release of LinuxPPC R5 (or maybe later).  You can
save yourself some hassle later, though, by re-partitioning your iMac hard
drive when you get it.  That way, you can use the recovery CD Apple gives
you to restore the system to its "out-of-box" state before you add
software, personal documents, etc., while setting aside space for
LinuxPPC.

FWIW, part of the problem with the iMac is that it's tied to the USB port,
and that support is still new, even in LinuxPPC.  This is much of the
reason you need a special install routine to get R4 up, and why most of
the pre-R5 installers I tried didn't work (I finally found one that did,
though).

You may want to subscribe to the comp.os.linux.powerpc newsgroup, where
there are occasional discussions of Linux on the iMac, and more on
LinuxPPC specifically than you'll find in the main Linux newsgroups.

-- 
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
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From: "Walter L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Solaris 7 partition
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:50:11 -0700

Good morning all

I would like to know which FS type to out into my FSTAB
so I can mount a partition created by Solaris 7.

Any one have any ideas?

Many Thanks
Walt Williams


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: hard disk installation problem
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:52:38 GMT

Use Alt-number to get another virtual console and check the case of the
directory tree.

the installation process is Case sensitive in regard to the file names and
directory names.


In article <PfAH2.2924$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Burhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi everyone
> i am trying to install 5.2 on a machine which does not have any os. i have
> two harddrive. on the first hard drive a created two partition, / and /usr
> and on the other i have created the partition /swap and /home. On the second
> harddrive, i have a partition which has the redhat directory and two sub
> directories base and rpms. when i try to install, it goes upto the point
> where it ask me for the partition and directory to copy the files from. when
> i select the right partition and select ok it gives me an error that the
> device hdb1 does not appear to contain redhat installation tree.
>
> i really apprecite if someone could help me
>
> Rafia Tapia
>
>

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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Freecell
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:58:40 -0500

    Hehe, kind of strange... I didn't realize that there were this many
other people who's girlfriends alos hijack their computers for Freecell
playing.

    I just switched from KDE to Gnome, and the version of Freecell that
comes with that was good enough to appease her.  If only Intuit would
come out with a Linux port of Quicken and TurboTax, I'd have no use for
Windows at all!

Steve



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From: Igor Syry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: VFAT panic,  Kernel 2.2.3
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:54:10 -0500

It doesn't say VFAT, but it is. I am trying to mount FAT32 as vfat. It worked
before I did disk defragmentation.
VFAT support is compiled in.

Igor

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:

> This doesn't say VFAT.  It appears to me that you either tried to mount the
> system as MSDOS of FAT in /etc/fstab or you didn't compile in VFAT.  It
> works fine for me.  Make sure you have "vfat" in your /etc/fstab file.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Igor Syry wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Hello,
> >
> >I have a problem mounting FAT32 file system lately with kernel 2.2.3.
> >Here is the error message:
> >
> >Directory 1: bad FAT
> >Filesystem panic (dev 03:01).
> >localhost kernel:   FAT error
> >File system has been set read-only
> >
> >The system was OK the day before. The only thing I did on this Fat32
> >drive was  error-check and defragmentation
> >using win98 native system tools. Windows does not report any problems
> >with this drive. I also checked the drive for viruses with the latest
> >NAV.
> >
> >
> >This is an exerpt from my /var/log/messages:
> >
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: hda: QUANTUM FIREBALL SE4.3A, 4104MB
> >w/80kB Cache, CHS=523/255/63, UDMA
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: hdb: QUANTUM FIREBALL ST2.1A, 2014MB
> >w/81kB Cache, CHS=1023/64/63, UDMA
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: hdc: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 120kB
> >Cache
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.52
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: Partition check:
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel:  hda: hda1
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel:  hdb: hdb1 hdb2 < hdb5 hdb6 >
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
> >readonly.
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 36k
> >freed
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: Adding Swap: 34236k swap-space
> >(priority -1)
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: Soundblaster audio driver Copyright
> >(C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: SB 3.1 detected OK (220)
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C)
> >by Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft 1993-1996
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: Directory 1: bad FAT
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel: Filesystem panic (dev 03:01).
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel:   FAT error
> >Mar 16 11:24:10 localhost kernel:   File system has been set read-only
> >
> >


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: How many $$$ does Linux save?
Date: 18 Mar 1999 14:24:23 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm just trying to understand approximately how much I'd save using Linux
>compared to say Solaris. Does anyone know how much Solaris costs per
>license? Does anyone have any hard data on how much money setting up a Linux
>based system saves?

You may be asking the wrong questions. Try some of these:

1) Which OS best fits my application requirements?

2) What's the hardware price/performance ratio? If you must spend twice as
much on hardware to get similar performace, then maybe that can make the choice
for you...

3) Which OS best meets my hardware requirements? Lack of drivers can kill.

4) Which OS am I more familiar with? How much time/effort will it cost to get
to the same sysadmin plateau with each?

5) Is support a requirement? It community support sufficient or must I pay?

As others have pointed out, Solaris Intel is essentially free licenses for
non-commercial use. For commercial applications no matter what the cost is 
it'll be more than Linux.

It's not a question of how much stuff costs, it's a question of what you need
to do and how much each will cost you in money/time/hardware/sweat etc.

BAJ

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From: "Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE vs GNOME and what about Enlightenment?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:49:22 +0100

John M. Janney wrote:
> 
> From what I've seen (screenshots), I also prefer the look of GNOME.
> 
> But does anyone have experience, in terms of everyday use (not as a
> programmer, but as someone who uses their system for daily tasks with tools
> like StarOffice)?

  OK. I�ve been using gnome (0.99.7, I think) together with WindowMaker
for a week or two. 

  The gnome-apps crash very often compared to other Linux programs
(except Netscape, of course ;-).
But as my work does not rely on these apps I haven�t lost any data. Just
starting the app again and
everything is fine.

  The gnome-panel seems to be stable but shows some nasty annoyances: I
can�t move the pager
permanently to the position I want, launchers disappear, and currently
I�m running two
pagers, where the second came from I do not know. 

  gdm (the gnome xdm-replacement) seems to be totally useless, as I was
not able to end any session
correctly.

  gnome is nice and I like it, but at the moment it�s more like a toy
than a production
environment.

  Oliver

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From: Fahrenheit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:41:37 GMT

15 cents Canadian.

Oh, and what's a man page?  :-)


In article <7cb896$bi7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> BUT, how much would most people be willing to spend on a filter to do this
> job?
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > NO, you export the file in ascii text format and usr nroff/troff to
message
> > > into Man pages.  We used to do this back at AT&T.  Doubt anyone would make
> > > much money off of this (since it seems nobody reads MAN pages anymore)!
> >

[snip]


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From: "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X - IRC client ?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:42:27 -0500

looking for a good x irc client, also looking for a simple proxy server

any suggestions ?



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From: "Michael Schmeing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which X11Amp is stable
Date: 18 Mar 1999 12:07:21 +0100

"Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have been using x11amp0.7 and it was very stable. I noticed they have
> removed that version from their website. Has anyone tried the new one 0.9?
> 
> Is it good , i mean stable?

I use 0.7, it is stable and it works even with my obviosly not
thread-save X-libraries that come with SuSE6.0.

I once tried to compile 0.9 but it complained that my X-libraries are
not thread-save (do not mention thread-aware). I have installed the
original rpm's from SuSE 6.0. Maybe anybody knows how to compile 0.9
without having to recompile X? Are there SuSE-rpm's out that are
thread-save? 

Thanks
-- 
Michael Schmeing, Artillerieweg 46, D-26129 Oldenburg
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
www: http://www.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE/~michae2

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