Linux-Misc Digest #503, Volume #24 Wed, 17 May 00 15:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux Distribution (Neil)
Text Based Calendar? (FyreFiend)
Re: CD hiccups when playing MP3s (Dances With Crows)
Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Any way to fake/spoof MAC address? (Bob Hauck)
Re: cant get to kde ("Philo")
Re: Linux Distribution (Paul Kimoto)
Useful tip (Prasanth Kumar)
Re: not properly umounted at shutdown ("Philo")
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Linux Distribution ("Philo")
texinfo? BAH! (Yan Seiner)
Re: /opt verus /usr/local (Markus Kossmann)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Mongoose)
Re: Redhat6.2 Network bug ?? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: add a second root-account (Harlan Grove)
Re: Having a problem with tar. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Cannot enter yast2 using SuSE 6.4 (and the right password) ? ("Rick")
Re: HELP! How do I create multiple users? (Scott W. Petersen - n9sla)
diagnosing kernel bugs (William Hamish Bell)
probles with rlogin (alex)
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Troubles adding user with uid 519 & 520 (Scott W. Petersen - n9sla)
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Distribution
Date: 17 May 2000 10:10:26 PST
Koen Aerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess the best way to find out which Linux distribution is "best" for
> you, is to try out a few of them.
I highly recommend Red Hat. It is easy to install, easy to install software,
etc. A great way to start out on Linux in my opinion.
--
Neil
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From: FyreFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Text Based Calendar?
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:56:18 -0400
Hello All,
I just have one quick question. Does anyone know where I can get a text
based calendar program for Linux like the one that comes with SunOS or
*BSD. I checked freshmeat and RH's RPM search but all I could find were
web or X based ones.
Thank you,
Lloyd
(Sorry if this goes through twice. I don't think the first went through)
--
Mind the spam trap. My real address is fyrefiend (at) mac (dot) com.
Flames just get deleted so don't bother.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: CD hiccups when playing MP3s
Date: 17 May 2000 13:18:43 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 17 May 2000 16:54:06 GMT, Andrei Zmievski
<<8fuir6$gul$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have an ATAPI IDE drive that I use with SCSI emulation driver so that
>it appears as /dev/scd0. When I try to play mp3s from the CD in that
>drive, every 20 seconds or so there is a hiccup like it's trying to
>fetch data and needs to respin the CD or something. Any ideas if this
>can be fixed?
Had the same problem with an older "8x" CD-ROM attached to the same IDE
controller as the main HD. I fixed it by using xmms to play mp3s and
configuring the output plugin to use maximum buffering (buffer 10000 ms,
pre-buffer 90%) which seemed to work OK--the CD had just enough time to
spin up and retrieve data before the buffer ran out, making for virtually
skip-free playing. Of course, this made xmms suck more memory than usual,
but hey....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:19:57 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 17 May 2000 09:50:13 +0200...
...and Gunter Bengel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s. keeling) writes:
>
>
> > Bull. The Nazi party is outlawed in Germany, for example.
> >
> >
> > A Nazi party (many, likely) operates freely in the US.
> >
> Horseshit. The Mafia is outlawed in the US of A. So there is
> censoreship?
Outlawing an organisation is not the same as censorship anyway.
Censorship means that the government reviews media such as books,
newspapers, etc. and is allowed to remove part or all of their
content. Which does not happen in Germany.
mawa
--
ICH WERDE ZUM TIER
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Any way to fake/spoof MAC address?
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:24:08 GMT
On Wed, 17 May 2000 09:57:12 -0600, Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yeah, after your post I looked into it and learned why the MAC address
>it needed. What happens when two systems in a network have the same MAC
>address?
The two hosts with the conflict don't work reliably.
>Surely with all the ethernet cards out there, there must be
>some conflict by random chance?
MAC addresses are 48 bits. Part of that is assigned to the card
manufacturer and is common to all cards made by that company. The rest is
a serial number assigned by the card manufacturer. Conflicts aren't
supposed to happen.
I'm told that there have been cases where this happened and lead to hard
to diagnose problems. Seems to be very rare nowadays.
>I tested it this morning and I can/did change the MAC address on my
>laptop's ethernet card. Mine is a Etherlink III.
Good to know.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant get to kde
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:28:45 -0500
or try desktopcfg or switchdesk at the command prompt
josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> linux is booting to console
> i try to execute kde but it lists a bunch of x server errors
> how do i get it to boot to kde from console
> (a way to get to kde from consle would be enough)
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Linux Distribution
Date: 17 May 2000 13:32:57 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Koen Aerts wrote:
> Some distributions are easier to install, others are more difficult.
Some distributions are easier to _upgrade_; others are more difficult.
(Remember, you need install only once per machine.)
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Useful tip
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:36:15 GMT
I just noticed that you can press [scroll lock] while Linux is booting
to
pause the flow of information in case it goes by too fast! Press it
again
to resume. I never thought of this before some maybe it will be useful
to
others when they are troubleshooting.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: not properly umounted at shutdown
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:33:28 -0500
or you may simply type halt
then you have to wait for all processes to stop
Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have Red Hat Linux 5.2 on my PC. When I type
>
> shutdown now
>
> I can shutdown it seems normally. But next time
> I boot back up it always gives the
>
> /dev/hda3 etc., etc. were not umounted properly
> a fsck was forced. Then I have to wait for it to
> churn through them.
>
> Any advice on how to shutdown properly?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Neil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 17 May 2000 12:38:10 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I am attempting to start a college project and have two of my
>>ideas already being worked on. So I wanted to know what other people
>>had for suggestions for linux projects? I was thinking of something
>>along the lines of a project that would help promote the use of linux.
>>What is something that most people could use? Something that could
>>make a good 1 year R&D project?
>
>How about an easy-to-use text editor ? (console, not GUI please :) ?
>One without a million complex commands, but with ability to select
>text with shift+arrow keys, like most dos/windows/os2-based editors
>do, F2 to save a file instead of Ctrl-x + Ctrl-s or something and
>those other features that are standard on other operating systems.
>
>Basically, a simple editor that doesn't need a 300-page tutorial.
>I can't find any of those in linux. Not for console anyway.
You would probably like nedit under X. I'm surprised there is
not a DOS EDIT clone for character mode - or is there? Vi is
worth the trouble to learn in the long run, but it is so different
from anything else that it is quite a shock. If you go that
route, learn 'U' and 'u' first so you realize that a mistake
isn't fatal.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Distribution
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:38:00 -0500
I see you have a lot of replies but I really like Mandrake (it is very
similar to Red Hat)
One thing that is also nice is that all you have to do is go to your local
newstand and buy the May/June issue of Mximum Linux and it will be included
"free"
(The magazine is $8.00, so you interpret what "free" means)
Philo
Kay W�chter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Hi folks, can anybody help me to choose
> a good Linux distribution? I heard about so
> many of them! Which one is the best,
> Red Hat? SuSE?....
>
> Thank you
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: texinfo? BAH!
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:49:53 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/rant
If info is the best help system the Linux community can come up with,
Windows will be with us for a long, long, long time. It it the most
complicated, counter-intuitive, ridiculous help system I've ever come
across!!!
/rant off
Ok, now that I have that off my chest, would someone please tell me how
to add an entry to the texinfo directory tree?
I've tried to follow the nearly worthless directions (worthless due to
the vagueness and ambiguity) in the info system. I get no errors on:
[root@aphrodite cipe]# install-info cipe.info /usr/info
but when I do a
info cipe
I get
No menu item "cipe" in node "(dir)Top".
Of course, there is no help at all for, nor any explanation of, the
actual directory tree that I've been able to find anywhere.
And yes, I use vi as my editor of choice, I don't even have X on my
server, and I've been around unix systems for quite a while. It's just
that, IMHO, texinfo sucks.
--Yan
--
Think different
ride a recumbent
use Linux.
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /opt verus /usr/local
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:05:10 +0200
Blake LeBaron wrote:
>
> I'm a new linux user, and I'm confused on one aspect of it. Where is
> the the appropriate place to put installed software packages? I see
> some want to go to /opt, and others prefer /usr/local. What is the
> current standard for this?
Read the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard ( http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ )
--
Markus Kossmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:16:13 GMT
On Wed, 17 May 2000 16:52:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (eyez) wrote:
>>4. A GUI interface to the most common configuration files.
>>
>>In order to beat Windows, client-side, we need:
>>
>>1. A GUI interface to *all* configuration files;
>
>Ugh. that's why i LEFT windows.
>
>maybe the whole world SHOULDN'T run linux. It's not a system that's made to
>be like windows.
A GUI would be good for configuring the system and stuff, as long as
the config files could still be edited with text editors for other
users.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Redhat6.2 Network bug ??
Date: 17 May 2000 13:22:16 -0500
In article <8fr8m8$nvb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Are you using Redhat 6.2?
>
>I use 6.1 and this problem does not exists.
>
>When I change to 6.2, this problem exists and I cannot solve it.
>
>This rare problem does happens in my Tulip.o network cards.
>I tried to reinstall it 4-5 times with my netgear(tulip) NIC and it fail
>to communicate with other hosts through my new DLINK10/100 Switch after
>I unplug the RJ45 for 150-200 seconds and replug the RJ45 again.
I'm using the VALinux 6.2.1 variation which I think would be
identical to RH 6.2 as far at the tulip driver goes. I
do have a 'real' DEC chip Netgear (stocked up on the
originals when they were still available...). I have had
some trouble when the switch was not set to auto-negotiate
but it didn't cause complete failure. I have had very
few problems with these cards or Intel 10/100's.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: add a second root-account
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:19:17 -0700
In article <8fu05j$qi1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alexander K
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> where is your sense of adventure? :)
Adventure in the sense of handing a loaded gun to a
chimpanzee and waiting around until he figures out how to
use it? Adventure in the sense of running random programs
with /etc/passwd as a command line argument?
* Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web
Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Having a problem with tar.
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:31:28 GMT
We thought about that, but a "tar tvf tarfile.tar" showed all files in
the tarball as owned by the correct user. It shouldn't matter who owns
the files inside the tar file, should it? It should really only matter
who owns the tar file, who's trying to untar it and who has permissions
for the directory the files are being extracted to, right? And in our
case, all three are the same user. It just won't create directories if
they don't already exist. If the same user manually creates the
directories before extracting the tar file, all is well. Still searching
for the answer...
Thanks Charles!
In article <mN4U4.5243$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is webs = webs ? I.e., if I create user "webs" on machine A, the
system
> assigns a UID corresponding to "webs". If I create user "webs" on
machine
> B,
> is the UID assigned on B the same as that assigned on A? I don't
believe
> the header entry for owner stores the character string "webs", only
the UID,
> which could correspond to a different user (or no user) on a different
> machines.
>
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cannot enter yast2 using SuSE 6.4 (and the right password) ?
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 20:40:03 +0200
Aron Felix Gurski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Rick wrote:
> > I have installed suse 6.4 without any poblems. During installation i had
to
> > fill in a loginname and 2 passwords. One password as a user and one
password
> > as a administartor
> > 1) I cannot loggin as a system administrator (ROOT) using ofcourse the
right
> > password.
> > 2) I can loggin as a user but i cannot enter yast2...(using the right
> > password as a administrator)
> >
> > When i want to enter yast and i type my (administartor) password...no
> > characters (******) appaer on the screen, instead yast shuts down
wtithout a
> > warning.
> >
> > What is wrong ?
>
> It sounds like you are typing in the wrong password for root. Are you sure
that
> you typed it correctly during the installation of the system? Are you
taking
> into account that there is a difference between upper and lower case
letters in
> passwords?
You bet, I took everything into account...
(so far i have heard nery little good things about SuSE 6.4)
Rick
>
> --
> -- Aron
>
> NB: To reply by e-mail, remove "spam-block." from my address.
> - - - - - - - - - - -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott W. Petersen - n9sla)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: HELP! How do I create multiple users?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:02:11 GMT
On Wed, 17 May 2000 14:55:11 +080
Nicollette Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I did see an option in webmin for adding multiple users.
www.webmin.com / ftp.webmin.com
>Hi
>
>How do I create multiple users (400 in this case) automatically?
>
>I have a spreed sheet with all the users details that I would mail merge
>into the script.
>
>I'm using Linux Redhat 6.1
>
>
>
>Thanks a million in advance.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Sid Bartle
>Murdoch University
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
--
=========================
Scott W. Petersen - N9SLA
Elgin, IL USA
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From: William Hamish Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: diagnosing kernel bugs
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:01:45 -0500
Hi,
Having installed RedHat 6.1 from the network I found my machine locked
up many times. Each time it locked up I had to use the reset button. I
learned these lock ups were due to a context bug (thanks to one of the
readers on this news group.) So I upgraded from kernel-2.2.12-20 to
kernel-2.2.14-6.0.1 following
http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHBA-2000013-01.html
I still get the occasional lock up via using ghostview from netscape. It
seems like a memory leak but I don't have any diagnostics. I agree I
could just grab a tar ball from www.kernel.org but I feel a loyalty to
the RedHat customers and therefore would like find the bug and report it
to bugzilla. So the question is does anyone out there have any
diagnostic tools for kernel crashes?
Thanks and Best Regards,
Will
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From: alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: probles with rlogin
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:17:50 +0300
I have probles with rlogin user:root to RedHat 6.2 and OpenBSD .
Another user can do it, but if root does it
I have "Connection refused". I know that is in /etc/pam.d/rlogin file ,
but I can not find how to configer it
propely. About OpenBSD I don't know how to configure , that to allow to
root telnet localhost.
Thanks in advance, Alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:08:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Jamie Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
jw> Yes but Amaya is crap as an editor, whatever it proves in concept.
I too have trouble with Amaya and actually find 'vi'
easier to use. In combination with the 'groff' -markup
and -mhtml macros, 'vi' rocks! If those 'groff' macros make
it out of alpha soon, then cleanup with vi won't be needed
anymore.
[snip]
jw> The extra effort need to make even hand-coded HTML compatible with
jw> text-based browsers should not be neccessary.
Have you been following the trend of wireless web appliances,
like cell phones with integrated browsers? Text compatible
HTML will be far ahead of less compatible HTML in this area.
Cheers....
--
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Change the AT and DOT in my reply-to address to send e-mail.
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott W. Petersen - n9sla)
Subject: Troubles adding user with uid 519 & 520
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:09:00 GMT
Very strange,
I think someone might have messed up creating a user with webmin(www.webmin.com)
When I add a new user the next available uid is 519. I try to log in as
that user but I get invalid login. Also in the /home directory for that user
the owner is 519 instead of the username.
No mention of a user 519 in /etc/passwd. Also checked /etc/shadow and
/etc/group but no problems there.
Same thing happens when I add a user with uid 520.
So I tried to jump up to uid 525 and all is well.
Is there some other place 519 and 520 are being used?
--
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Scott W. Petersen - N9SLA
Elgin, IL USA
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