Linux-Misc Digest #582, Volume #19 Tue, 23 Mar 99 23:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: What is the best Linux to install? (John Meissen)
/etc/rc.d/init.d problems (Scott Kester)
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Anthony Ord)
Re: Email-only terminal accounts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux setup (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: cd player similar to KDE's. . . (Doug Kellogg)
Re: csh scripts won't run ("Rey Rios")
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (John Burton)
Redhat 5.2 (Leo Boucher)
$2,499 14.1"TFT DVD-ROM 333MHz PII Sony Vaio Laptop
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux setup (Phil)
Modem PCI intern & PPP (c&c)
Re: Re: DDS-3 SCSI-2 Tape drive problems... (Bernd-Ulrich Adrigam)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Meissen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: 23 Mar 1999 23:02:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jon-o Addleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Just out of curiosity, why aren't RPM an YaST good for coders? I don't
>think I've heard that said before...
RPM and YaST like to do things the way the developer, or package builder,
thinks is best. That may or may not agree with my personal philosophy.
I'm suffering with YaST now, even though it gets in my way more
often than not, in order to try SuSE. Over the years I've developed
a system that organizes things into core services, optional products,
and stuff I add myself. And I like to localize the files so that
products are as self-contained as possible within a single directory
subtree. This makes it easier to backup, maintain, and track
the stuff on the system.
Every RPM package I've installed, however, seems to insist on putting
its binaries in either /bin or /usr/bin, the configuration files
in /etc, the library files in /lib or /usr/lib, log files in
/var/log, etc.
I don't like having a 2GB root partition. Having to backup/restore
that much data just to recover a crashed system is ridiculous. With
Slackware I had a 250MB root partition. It contained what I needed
to make the system run.
And if I want to remove/update a package now I have to go searching
all over the system for files. If I rolled my own I could put
support files, documentation files, config files, etc. all under
/usr/local/<product>, and I'd know right where to find them.
Sure, rpm is supposed to keep track of all that for me. But then
there's yet another tool/interface I HAVE to learn and remember.
So far it hasn't done a better job, or made it easier for someone
who knows what they're doing to do their job. It's just provided
a point-and-click WIMP interface for those who DON'T know what
they're doing yet.
john-
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From: Scott Kester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: /etc/rc.d/init.d problems
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:09:58 -0500
I am new to linux so I am sorry if this is a common question. I have
installed Oracle 8.0.5 and have been trying to get it to auto start and
stop for 2 weeks with no luck. I created a script called dbora and
placed it in /etc/rc.d/init.d. The script is marked as executable, and
when I run it by hand via /etc/rc.d/init.d start or stop, it works
fine. I placed a link to dbora as
/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S99dbora->../init.d/dbora. Oracle now autostarts just
fine.
The problem is shutdown. I placed a link in both rc0.d and rc6.d as
K10dbora->../init.d/dbora. The shutdown script never runs. I put
several echo "Called the script" lines in at the top to see if the
scripts was ever called. The messages never appear. I set all required
environment variables in the script, so I don't think this is the
problem.
So I tried finding a link that does work on shutdown,
K15httpd->../init.d/httpd was the one I used. I deleted the link to
../init.d/httpd and recreated it as K15httpd->../init.d/dbora. The
shutdown now works as I expected. This makes me think that the shutdown
process is running off of an old directory listing of rc0.d, and does
not find the new entry K10dbora. Is that possible? If I read the docs
correctly it should read the directory every time it runs. Is there a
file I have to update to get the shutdown process to take another look
at the contents of the rc0.d or rc6.d directories? Any help would be
great.
TIA
Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:21:42 GMT
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:15:45 -0600, Xerophyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Also consider that Intel announced a product which conceivably could invade
>privacy.
>
>Caere and Mircosoft (Office2000) both want users to register their products
>or else they don't get a key code to make the product work after 20 days.
Crack it. M$ will be laughed out of court if you bought it, then they
try to claim piracy. At least in this country.
>The us government knows more about its citizens than other governments know
>their citizens. (not just name/address/such)
>
>Bank companies need to look only at a credit card tally and see who we're
>buying from.
The local petrol station - ooh! - informative.
>These anti-Intel folk are shortsighted idiots! Intel's "crime" is not
>worthy of this bullshit yet they don't seem to mind all these other direct
>violations of our privacy.
Intel's little stunt appears to be immutable if you buy their product.
People are therefore suggesting you don't. This will have the
side-effect of ensuring no one ever tries to pull anything similar.
That is all.
Regards
Anthony
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| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Email-only terminal accounts
Date: 24 Mar 1999 03:28:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled manically:
: In his obvious haste, Eric Rossing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
Boy, we're unflattering around here... <g>
: : What is the best way to set up a user so he is automatically put into a
: : mailreader (eg. elm) when he logs in, and is automatically logged off when
: : he exits that program?
: Wouldn't adding a line to their .bashrc file like
: exec elm
: work...
Firstly: eh? Their .bashrc? Don't you mean their .profile? Putting
'exec elm' in ~/.bashrc on my system sure doesn't work.
Yes, but. Yes, they'll log in and immediately be popped into elm.
But...if elm isn't working for whatever reason, they'll simply be put into a
regular shell (whatever they have listed in /etc/passwd). Plus, they could
ctrl-z and escape and back to the shell. Plus, as you note, some email
programs allow things like shell escapes and saving messages as files - it's
entirely conceivable that the user could mail something to a file that would
cause a program of his choice to run, rather than elm.
: (you might want to remove elms ability to access shell commands though.
: It'll probably need a fiddle with the source and a recompile)
As you say, pretty much. If you _just_ want the user to be able to
use mail, it's better to put it as their 'login shell' in /etc/passwd, but
you'll still need to make sure they can't break out of it in some
unexpected way.
JD
--
"Corporations can't teach hacking. It has to be in you."
--Emmanuel Goldstein
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: ibmnet.general,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux setup
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:41:34 +0000
Phil,
I guess I'm still confused. It seems to me that he would have to
register all possible dynamically allocated IP's - but that would be
fuzzy as what HE was allocated one time might be allocated to someone
else later. ?? The nameserver would have to know what he was allocated
currently.
d
Phil wrote:
>
> Georges Heinesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Quoting David Kirkpatrick (10-Mar-99 17:59:19):
> >
> >> He said his computer name "can be" 111.111.111.111 when it gets the
> >> random 111.111.111.111 on the dynamic alocation. It will be different
> >> the next time he dial's in.
> >
> >Exactly!
>
> And what I said was that you can't get it to respond to
> it's name unless you register with NIC and get hosted...
>
> I also said that you COULD write a script in your favorite
> scripting language that updates a webpage somewhere with
> your current dynamically assigned IP address and links
> to your machine -- Just have the web page automatically
> switch to your local public_html directory if you are
> connected... SEE? It updates every time you connect...
>
> like this: <meta content="1,url=http://111.111.111.111:80/index.html"
> http-equiv="refresh">
>
> (note that I had to wrap the line here, don't do that.)
>
> It sounds so good, I think I'll do it.
>
> That's what those services (dyndns, etc.) do, I swear!
>
> Phil
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From: Doug Kellogg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: cd player similar to KDE's. . .
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:23:38 -0800
Xmcd, which I'm using as I write this, is very nice. I'm in fvwm2.
This program automatically downloads the artist information. I found it
as xmcdbin.tar.gz. Untar it in its own subdirectory, since it
doesn't create one.
Doug
Norvell Spearman wrote:
>
> Is there a cd player similar to KDE's cdplayer (one that will
> automatically download artist, album, and track names) that I can run in
> plain old XWindows/fvwm2?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To reply, remove my opinion about
> unwanted e-mail from my address.
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From: "Rey Rios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: csh scripts won't run
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:26:43 -0600
Thanks for your reply.
I gave it full permission (777), my /usr/csh is link to /usr/tcsh. As far
as I know is the only csh directory that I have. You are right, I think is
trying to execute with bash, for some weird reason. I will reinstall again,
maybe that will solve the problem. If not, I will have to port my shell
scripts to sh.
Thanks.
Rob Fisher wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I just installed Caldera 1.3 and I have not been able to run a csh script.
>
> The script runs fine on SunOS. If I run it on Linux, it gives me Command
>
> not found even if I do ./ If I take out the /!#/bin/csh,
I suppose this could be a typo in your post, but it should be #!/bin/csh
> I get a few
>
> errors when it tries to run if else and while do statements.
That's because bash is trying to execute it, and bash follows Bourne
shell syntax.
> My user account is setup right. What could be wrong? Can I run csh
>
> scripts on Linux? Caldera 1.3?
Does /bin/csh actually exist? If not, do a "which csh" to find out where
csh is - if you have one. I've never seen Caldera, but I'm guessing that
it has tcsh and that the /bin/csh link isn't there. If I'm right, create
that link!
I'm not going to start a ksh/csh flame war, but I really think it's
better to write scripts to run through the Bourne shell. Every Unix box
in the world has a shell that will run them, be it sh, ksh, bash or
whatever - they should be 100% portable. Plus you don't have to work
round any of csh's brain dead behaviours.
Rob
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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:31:37 GMT
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown) writes:
>
> > On 10 Mar 1999 16:38:51 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >...
> > >MS doesn't want to do business on unix. it could interfere with its
> > >windows sales. if i could run ms-office on solaris, then i could make
> > >a solid case to my boss to get rid of my pc running microsoft windows
> > >and get me a sparcstation on my desktop.
> >
> > but why can't you run staroffice, or corel WP suite, or applixware, and
> > still make that solid case to get rid of the PC right now?
> > It's compatible with office?
>
> it's not all *that* compatible. my documents tend to be chock full of
> equations and figures. straight text is done ok. tables survive
> usually. figures maybe. equations, not a chance. i'd love to use
> AMS-LaTeX but the US DoD requires all documentation be submitted in
> `MS-Word 6.0 for Windows' format.
>
Yup! I find it interesting that the Department of Justice is after
Microsoft for their "Monopoly", but the rest of the Federal Government
(DoD & NASA in Particular) is busy *increasing* the monopoly by
*requiring* electronic communications use an MS Office document format
(Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc), and of course MS Office only runs on
Windows...;-)
Go figure...;-)
John
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Newport News, VA 23606
(757) 873-5920 (voice) (757) 873-5920 (fax)
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From: Leo Boucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 5.2
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:15:54 -0800
Hi, I hope someone can help me with a couple of questions.
I have a slow connection to the Internet and only want to download the
necessary files to install Redhat 5.2 on an Intel compatible. I am
doing the ftp to metalab.unc.edu and going through it to the directory
pub/Linux/distributions/redhat/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/
Also, I would think I could install Redhat with the DOS compatible file
system. Is there a howto on how to do that?
Thanks,
Leo Boucher
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux,linux.help
Subject: $2,499 14.1"TFT DVD-ROM 333MHz PII Sony Vaio Laptop
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:29:22 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil)
Crossposted-To: ibmnet.general,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux setup
Date: 11 Mar 1999 21:17:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Phil,
> I guess I'm still confused. It seems to me that he would have to
>register all possible dynamically allocated IP's - but that would be
>fuzzy as what HE was allocated one time might be allocated to someone
>else later. ?? The nameserver would have to know what he was allocated
>currently.
Nope, his computer is "physically" at the address allocated to
him as long as he is connected, so he doesn't need to register
anything on his system.
I log into my machine at home when my wife sends me e-mail,
using the IP addy attached to the e-mail!
Regarding the dynamically set up webpage,
I suppose safety would be insured by having ppp_off go
and change the page to say "sorry, I'm not connected!"
Try it yourself -- connect to the net, then telnet to your
dynamic IP address. magic! I don't know if the ppp daemon
is handing this or what -- but you are "at" the dynamic IP
address. Your machine is known to the world as XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX,
good reason for running tcp-wrappers! Set up hosts.allow
and hosts.deny and deny yourself access! It's fun and educational!
If you grok the network gymnastics that make this work, it would
be nice to post the explanation to comp.os.linux.setup. I don't
know TCP-IP well enough to explain it correctly.
Maybe I'm not being clear about the fact that my method
does not support his having a real NIC name, all it does
is bounce a connection to, for example:
http://www.myisp.net/~myhomepage/index.html
to:
http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:80/~myhomepage/index.html
All services on all your local machine's ports are
seen worldwide at XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XX.
If, however, you get a free account at, say, linuxbox.com,
and your account gives you a location such as:
http://mystuff.linuxbox.com
then placing the index.html page at that location with
the <meta> bounce will make it work just the way what's
his name wanted it to.
Phil
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From: c&c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem PCI intern & PPP
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 01:18:57 +0100
Hello !!
I cannot initialize a ppp connection with my modem. PPPD is unable to
find it, or find it busy ? Can anybody help me ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd-Ulrich Adrigam)
Subject: Re: Re: DDS-3 SCSI-2 Tape drive problems...
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 04:34:41 +0100
Robert Heller schrieb in Nachricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
<snip>
>BA>
>BA> What error-messages did you get, what tape did you use? Have you tried
with
>BA> a tape of a different vendor?
>
>From /var/log/messages*:
>
>Mar 14 04:10:41 www kernel: st0: Error with sense data: Current error
st09:00: sense key Hardware Error
>
<snip>
Hello Robert,
seems to be a real hardware-dammage!!! (As far as I know the
CSI-messages( since 1988))
I don't think, that this is a error, that can be caused by _any_ software.
If you still have warranty, take that device back to the vendor and treat
him to give you
a new one, or better, let him install a new one and prove the function fo
the device
in your presence!
with any tools he wants.
Bernd
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