Linux-Misc Digest #582, Volume #24               Wed, 24 May 00 11:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Darren Winsper)
  Re: Slackware or Debian (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: tar'ing only a directory (Bastian)
  Re: How do I install a .tar.gz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Which Mail Server for multiple Virtual Domains (Rob Weiss)
  ld fails with "Not enough room for program headers" (Marina Holzer)
  Re: StarOffice and Red Hat 6.2 (George Bell)
  Re: Corel linux boot to console not gui. (ajn)
  Re: Linux hangs (mj)
  Re: Installing from hard disk + complaints (Leonard Evens)
  Re: UIDL for pop3 servers under linux (John Wingate)
  Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Leslie Mikesell)
  Print in Landscape orientation (Stearns25)
  Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Tom Fawcett)
  Re: sccs in linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 24 May 2000 13:10:27 GMT

On Tue, 23 May 2000 23:07:50 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Darren Winsper writes:
> > Would you care to point us in the direction of any major bugs in the
> > stable kernels that have survived several revisions?
> 
> No.

Well then, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

> How much sooner might those bugs have been fixed given a decent bug
> tracking system?

Already been answered (Just not by me).

> I'm running 2.3.99 on dual PIII's with an Adaptec 7896 and having trouble
> with sound: sending anything to /dev/dsp hangs the SCSI driver.

Who'd have thought, an unstable kernel having bugs.

> If there
> was a kernel BTS I'd research the problem there and either test any fix I
> found or, in the unlikely case that it is not a known problem, make a stab
> at fixing it myself.

Right, so check out the patches on the mailing list.

> I'm not interested in spending hours rooting around
> in a mailing list archive, though.

How hard can it be to do a simple search?

-- 
Darren Winsper (El Capitano) - ICQ #8899775
Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
DVD boycotts.  Are you doing your bit?
This message was typed before a live studio audience.

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware or Debian
Date: 24 May 2000 08:52:15 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:

> >i know what you mean.  redhat's init and config script rat's nest is
> >particularly hard to navigate.
> 
> It's basically System V-style; BSD bigots tend to find the linkages
> irritating, and it is, to some extent, but not much moreso than any of
> the other Linuxes using SysV-style init.

it's not the sys-v stuff with links from /etc/rc.d/init.d stuff to
/etc/rc.d/rcN.d.  that part i think is very well done.  it accomodates
machine install (it's easier to (over)write a file than edit/hack
one).

the part i find confusing is the redhat /etc/sysconfig heirarchy.
that contains a giant spaghetti of bash scripts calling each other.
that's the rat's nest i was alluding to.

-- 
johan kullstam l72t00052

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: tar'ing only a directory
Date: 24 May 2000 13:18:50 GMT

On Wed, 24 May 2000 00:23:50 +0100, Matt wrote:
>Cheers,
>
>That seems to work fine.. in parts but not in..
>
>tar c $(find /root/odd -type f -maxdepth 1) > out.tar
>
>when untar'ed with tar -xvf the /root/odd directory
>stucture is still there.
>
>Where as all I wish to do is tar the current directory only
>the not the leading directories.
>
>Regards
>
>Matt

   tar c $(find /root/odd -type f -maxdepth 1 -printf "%n ") > out.tar
should do what you want.

Bastian


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How do I install a .tar.gz
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:21:31 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 23 May 2000 17:47:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <<8geg7o$q46$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >I know that there is a string but I'm not sure what it is.
> >I'm trying to install the theme manager for KDE ver 1.1.1 and i am
> >having no luck. I got the pacakge extracted but I can't get it to
> >install.....
>
> The command set you're looking for is as follows:
>
> $ tar xvzf thing1.2.3.tar.gz    extract package
> $ cd thing1.2.3                 cd to newly created directory
> $ less README* INSTALL*         read the fine manual(s)
> $ configure                     execute configuration script
> $ make                          compile package from source
> $ su -c 'make install'          install package
>
> >Slap me if i'm overlooking something right in my face.
>
> *WHAP*  :-)
>
> This is not at all obvious in the abstract, but every boxed distro
I've
> seen has a page or two in the manual where they explain about building
> packages from source code.  Yeah, it should be easier; I really wonder
why
> there isn't a small shell script called "tarbuild" that just runs
through
> all those above commands, explains exactly what it's doing, and gives
> hints if/when configure or make dies on a missing library.[0][1]
>
> If you are getting errors with "configure" or "make" then a specific
> report on those errors would be most helpful.
>
> [0] Yes, I know about apt-get and the *BSD ports system.
> [1] This must exist already... why isn't it in wide use among those
who
> sell boxed distros?  Die-hards can always type in the commands by
hand...
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up
with more
> There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being
stupid?
> But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.
WinNT
> (Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool.
--MegaHAL
>

Configure: error: no acceptiable C++-compiler found $path

hehe any suggestions on a good compiler? I hehe guess that I did'nt
install one when i was installin suse.


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Before you buy.

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From: Rob Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Mail Server for multiple Virtual Domains
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:30:08 GMT

Sendmail will do the job. I am not sure what the problem is exactly. Check 
out sendmail.org for docs.
Tiziano Vicentini wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I have to setup a Mail server (smtp & pop3) on one linux box (say RH
> 6.2) that could manage several domain like
> domain1.com
> domain2.com
> and several subdomains like
> sub1.domain.com
> sub2.domain.com
> Furthermore I need that mailboxes exist only for mail server and not for
> linux box; I suppose users password mailboxes etc. will be on a db or
> something similar.
> I evaluate Sendmail Qpopper and Intrastore but none of those seems to 
work
> correctly for my job.
> Someone has some hints about GPL licence server? Hints about 
implementation
> 
> Tia
> 
> Tiziano Vicentini
> Eudata SpA
> Network & System Administrator
> 
> Note: remove removethis from my email address
> 
> 
> 


--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: Marina Holzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ld fails with "Not enough room for program headers"
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:31:58 GMT

I try to create a shared library on Linux (SuSe6.4).
It's size may be 20-30 MB.
The loader (ld) fails with

Not enough room for program headers (allocated 3, need 4)
/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld. final link failed: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

I have no idea what is wrong.
Any idea ?
Thanks a lot,
Marina








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From: George Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice and Red Hat 6.2
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:35:42 -0400

Showoff!!!  All I have is a little old AMD K6-2 300 MHz 62k.

Duane wrote:

>
>
> 32 MB of RAM? Ouch. Can't say for sure that this is your problem, but
> Staroffice is a MAJOR memory hog. I suppose lots of swap space should
> take care of that, but...(shudder)
>
> Just starting Staroffice up consumes greater than 23 MB on my machine,
> and try opening a simple application and we are now over 28 MB. Opening
> takes a significant amount of time even on my 700MHz Athlon with 256 MB
> of PC133 SRAM, and 7200 RPM disks with 32 bit transfers and DMA enabled.
> I would guess that running on your machine would be painful at best.
>
> >   A friend runs 5.1 on Red Hat 6.1 and has no problems.  I can run the
> > Windows version with no problems.
> >   After I had tried the 5.1 version and encountered these difficulties, I
> > sent a message to Sun's support folks and they said 5.1a would cure the
> > problem.  I downloaded.  It didn't make any difference.
> >   Suggestions?
> >
> > -- Ron
> > Hamilton, ON
> >
> > --
>
> --
> My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ajn)
Subject: Re: Corel linux boot to console not gui.
Date: 24 May 2000 13:45:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8gfnlg$kue$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>did any body know how to install corel linux to boot to GUI. When ever
>i install corel linux, it boot to console every time. i try to
>reinstall the corel linux, same problem appear.
>
>Can somebody help me PLEASSSSSSSSE, thanks.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

You could add xdm to the run level into which you boot, or you could edit
/etc/inittab so that you boot into a runlevel which already loads xdm at
startup.

Make sure you have xdm installed, otherwise use apt-get to get it! 
('apt-get install xdm' as root will make sure xdm is installed and is the
current version).

ajn

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From: mj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux hangs
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:39:42 -0400

Hi,

Are you running XDM (graphic login screen)? If you do so, try to start linux
with the "s" or "1" as boot parameters. That would start linux in runlevel 1
or "sngle user mode". In both of them, X will not be launched. 
If you re using LILO, sorry, i haven't used that crap since years, so i don't
remember how to add boot parameters. If you use CHOS (lilo replacement), press
space to add boot parameters.

Now fix your X window configuration (XConfigurator), and try if X starts OK.
Some cheaper video boards that say S3 XXX, are not 100% S3 compliant, and will
cause severe trouble. Here that few bucks of a descent card will do the
difference...

If that isnt your case, would bet its your mainboard, or your Linux installation
got corrupt. I have a AMD K6-2 300 with 100Mhz FSB and it never hangs. I use
Debian Linux 2.3. My brother has a Athlon 500Mhz running at 100Mhz FSB too and
no hangs ever. No problem either. The quality of your mainboard is the most
critical issue. A bad mainboard equals to bad computer.

bye.

On Wed, 24 May 2000, Rafael wrote:
>My Linux (Red Hat 6.2, kernel 2.14 and 6.1) hangs.  I run on the same
>computer Windows 98 and it works without  hangings. I would like use
>only Linux on this computer but I can't. It hangs (freeze), the reset
>button could not restart computer (black screen). I have to turn power
>of. Please help me. What could be the reason.
>I have:
>AMD K6-3 400 Mhz running on 100Mhz bus ( 4x100)
>S3 868 (2Mb) graphic PCI card
>128 Mb Ram ( 2x64 Mb)
>HD IBM GXP 27GB ( Linux on hda2 (boot- below 1024) and hda6 and swap on
>hda7)
>Screen Nokia 447M
>
>When I changed bus speed to 95Mhz  ( 4x95) i stop hanging. But next day
>I add additional PCI network card and it start hanging again. Than I go
>down to 83 Mhz bus speed and it seems to not hang. But what is the
>problem , with Windows 95 , 98 and NT I can run eaven in overclocked up
>to 450Mhz with bus speed 112Mhz.
>What kind of the problem it could, is it related to Linux, or to
>hardwareor other problem. Somebody should now this?
>Please help!
>
>Addotional information:
>I had Linux with the same hardware, but with other motherboard and 486
>120Mhz, and it worked perfect.
>
>Please send answer to my email too
>
>Rafael

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing from hard disk + complaints
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:45:17 -0500

Edgar wrote:
> 
> I am new to Linux, but have used and repaired DOS-PC's for about 10 years.
> I tried to install first Caldera OpenLinux and, when that didn't work,
> TurboLinux from my hard disk. This was the most frustrating experience in
> my life! I hate Windows because it doesn't work and it is very slow.
> After 10 (ten!) days trying to install Linux I am about to give up.
> * OpenLinux says: "Oops! No valid root!" Of course not, I just started the
> installation program! It doesn't mater how my disk is partitioned, I have
> tried installing with already formatted Linux partitions but nothing helps.
> * TurboLinux seems not to be able to find the TurboLinux files on my hard
> drive, Setup Installer says "Cannot find ../module/module..." (don't
> remember the rest, ends with .qz)
> Now I have Mandrake. No (!) problem to install - but the mouse doesn't
> work. NIC is found, configured and installed but doesn't work.
> (Initializaton failed during boot.)
> 
> Using only the prompt & Midnight Commander, together with my book "Using
> Caldera OpenLinux" I have tried to find out which files to edit, but I
> don't succeed.
> I must also say, I thought that Windows took a long time to start and shut
> down - but more like the speed of light compared with Linux!
> Even though I am an MCP, I am a fanatic Windows-hater. Don't tell me that
> this is the way it is with the alternative!
> Peter Haraldson, Sweden
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

You are talking to a bunch of people who have installed Linux
on one or more computers and are happily using it without your
problems.   I've personally installed various versions of RedHat
on many, mnay occasions, and I've installed Debian once.  I
know people who have installed other versions such as Mandrake
without significant difficulties.

So I suspect your problems have to do with your specific hardware.
Please let us know just what that hardware is.   In particular
which video card you have and which X server Mandrake chose.
That should be a link in /etc/X11 which you can find by the
command
ls -l /etc/X11/X
Does the mouse not work only under X (your GUI)? Or does it
also not work with a simple terminal interface?  
What sort of network are you attached to?   Did you configure
your network for a static ip address or for dhcp?

I have installed many dual boot systems, and I've found that
Linux and Windows take about the same time to boot.   But Linux
tells you much more about what is happening so you have a chance
to figure out the cause if something goes wrong.   If you are
having trouble with you network connection, it may be that
you have to wait for that to time out, and that would of course
increase the time it takes to boot.  (The same thing would
happen under Windows if your network connection fails.)

But start off by telling us what you can, and maybe after a
few iterations we can get you up and running.

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UIDL for pop3 servers under linux
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:47:55 GMT

[posted and mailed]

Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Fetchmail does what you want with the UIDL feature.  I use it, and only
>> get one copy of mail which is left on the server.

> ... the following did it for me at the
> command line fetchmail -d 900 sunma4.mat.ucm.es --user oub -p pop3
> --uidl --keep (I forgot the keep option, I thought either uidl or
> keep) however when I try to configure my .fetchmailrc file I get
> stacked poll sunma4.mat.ucm.es protocol pop3 uidl keep username oub
> password *** does not work!

> Can you please send me your configuration?

I'm not sure what "stacked" means.  Other than that the differences
from mine are just in the order of options, and I limit the size.
I have:

   poll pop3.worldpath.net protocol pop3 uidl
      user wingate password ******  keep limit 100000

I start fetchmail in daemon mode when I make a PPP connection (with
"fetchmail -d 1200").

> Thanks

You're welcome.

-- 
John Wingate                              If there is a God he must have
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                     an odd sense of humour.
                                                       --- Chaim Bermant

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 24 May 2000 09:47:01 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Darren Winsper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I'm not interested in spending hours rooting around
>> in a mailing list archive, though.
>
>How hard can it be to do a simple search?

Pretty bad.  Try to find exactly what has to be done to make any
version of 2.2.x interoperate correctly with other systems using
NFS.  If you have a specific problem, try to find a way to tell
when it has been fixed.  Note that it may be different for different
versions, and in some cases you need to know about the bugs in the
other systems as well.  All large systems have bugs and working
around them is a large part of the job for the people who have to
keep them running.  The openness of Linux is a plus in this area,
but the lack of a central and official repository for bug tracking
and status is a big minus.

  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stearns25)
Subject: Print in Landscape orientation
Date: 24 May 2000 14:51:26 GMT

hello,

Our platform is RH 6.0/

We have several text-based spreadsheets that needed to be printed in Landscape
orientation.  However, I went thru   'man lpr' but could not find the  switch
for doing  so.   Does that mean I need to pass the file thru yet another
filter?  Or, is there a simpler way to print in Landscape?

Thanks for any info and suggestions.


-Stearns


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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 24 May 2000 08:04:01 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (CAguy) writes:
> Well, with billions of dollars now riding on the success of linux...I
> think it's about time they kicked the kiddies off kernal development, 
> and start using a more professional development process. 

Right.  And I think we should tell Richard Stallman that unless he and his
scruffy little band of amateurs get some serious quality processes in place
by next week, they're all going to be kicked out of the FSF --- replaced by
MSCE certified sofware engineers in an ISO-9000 certified organization that
can do the job properly.

-Tom

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: sccs in linux
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:05:03 GMT

Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt wrote:
>> Hi is there an SCCS in linux ?
>>
>> I know theres a cvs but I would like to use sccs
>> as the command ?
>>
>> ie sccs get <filename.c>

> The GNUish analogue to SCCS is RCS (not CVS, which is built on top of an
> RCS infrastructure).

why the sales-pitch when he said he already knows about CVS?

> There used to be an effort to clone SCCS, called "CSSC", but I don't
> know what has come of it:
> http://www.free-lunch.demon.co.uk/CSSC/

it seems to work - ymmv

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://dickey.his.com
ftp://dickey.his.com

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