Linux-Misc Digest #629, Volume #19 Sun, 28 Mar 99 06:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer ("William Foster")
Re: Where can I download Linux as one compressed file? (Jeremy Nickolet)
Re: trouble with "mount" using RH-5.2 (giacomo boffi)
Re: vesaFB launching X gives me a NO VALID MODES FOUND error (lavoiep)
Midnight Commander won't "make" (Mark Leung)
Script Problems with CR/LF's (John McLaughlin)
keyboard error... (Brian Woo)
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 ("Dan M. Johnson
(bagzman)(LinuxBox1)")
Re: after install Netscape 4.51 (Robert Binz)
Apache mod_php3 w/ MySQL support.... ANYONE? For the love of God- this is driving
me insane. ("Tree")
Re: Linux (Pankil Richards)
Re: Linux and Netscape 4.51 (tar/gz format) ("Gero H. Marten")
Problems Installing Redhat 5.2 ("David Brotman")
Overclocking was: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Jet)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (Donn Miller)
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Enkidu)
Re: Dumb question about console color... (Donn Miller)
Compiling ELF, AOUT programs... (Donn Miller)
Help, Netscape, and segmentation fault ("Ted")
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From: "William Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:27:00 -0800
Build your own system if you feel comfortable doing it. You'll avoid the
microsoft tax. If you don't want to build it try VA Research(I think it's
the name). They sell systems preinstalled with linux and from what I here
are pretty good!!
B2
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've gotten the go-ahead from my better half (read: my wife) to spend
> around 2K on a new system. I'd like to hear _specific_ success and/or
> horror stories on systems and peripherals that have worked and not
> worked with Linux. My prequisites:
>
> 400mhz CPU
> 96mb RAM
> 8mb video card
> 19" monitor
> sound card, speakers
> 4GB hard drive
> CD-ROM
>
> Bonuses:
> DVD
> Color printer
> Tape backup
> Dual CPUs
>
> Notes:
> I don't play video games, so 3D video doesn't mean anything to me.
> I'm open to build-my-own or buying from Micron, Gateway, Dell, etc.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Ed
>
> Q: Why do PCs have a reset button on the front?
> A: Because they are expected to run Microsoft operating systems.
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From: Jeremy Nickolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Where can I download Linux as one compressed file?
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 06:23:17 GMT
David Dineen wrote:
>
> A good while ago I got hold of a magazine cover CD with RedHat 4.1 and
> installed it on my PC. I didn't use it very much, though. It couldn't
> read the long filenames on my Windows drives and it was a bitch to set
> up. Now I've seen KDE running on a later version on a computer in a
> university and I'd like to give Linux another go.
>
> I found a mirror that's close to me and that's fairly fast
> (ftp.heanet.ie) but here's my problem. In Ireland we get billed per
> minute for local/Internet calls and downloading something this big is
> fairly expensive. I usually use a great piece of software for the PC
> called GetRight for large downloads. I can download a bit every day in
> the background without adding too many zeros to my phone bill. But
> GetRight will only download single files; I can't just point it at a
> directory and let it get on with it.
>
> So,basically, is there somewhere I can download RH 5.2 in one big
> file, and then unzip/untar it? Is there a better way?
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> David Dineen Fruity Bits
> www.cs.tcd.ie/spinaweb/98_finalists/02_fruitybits/
> ---------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
The Victoria Linux Users Group has Red Hat's 5.9 beta "Starbuck"
tar/zipped, and is about a 450 MB download. It unzips to about 520
MBs. The ftp server isn't all that busy so you should be able to get
pretty good transfer speed.
I'm using the 5.9 beta now and it is pretty good, but does have a few
problems. The nice thing though is that it includes KDE and GNOME in
the install.
Another solution might be to buy a $2 copy from Cheapbytes. Even after
exchange and shipping it will still be a good buy and you'll have a hard
copy to keep.
ftp://ftp.vlug.org
http://www.cheapbytes.com
Jeremy
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From: giacomo boffi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: trouble with "mount" using RH-5.2
Date: 27 Mar 1999 18:10:12 +0200
Ian Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi Giacomo -
Ian, thank you for your reply
> I'm actually really surprised that your method doesn't work
me too!
> the documentation I've read states that both 'mount /dev/hdc' and
> 'mount /mnt/cdrom' should work, unless there's a mount option that I
> don't understand that is preventing this. I tried your method and it
> doesn't work for me either!
>
> At any rate, your solution is to use 'mount /mnt/cdrom'.
i'm sorry, but it does not work
two things that work for me (without passing options to mount) are:
% mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
% mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
anytime i try to use mount with a single argument the program says that
it can't find "whatever" in /etc/mtab or /etc/fstab
the crux of the problem is "mount" that does not recognize the device/
the mount point/ that, AFAICT, are _properly_ described in /etc/fstab
(i used only linuxconf to modify /etc/fstab)
yes, it is strange...
> giacomo boffi wrote:
>
> > i'm using the redhat 5.2 distribution, and this is a sample session
> > using the mount command. please note that /dev/hdc is my cdrom drive
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > % whoami
> > root
> > % mount /dev/hdc
> > mount: can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/mtab or /etc/fstab
> > % grep hdc /etc/fstab
> > /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,exec,nodev,suid,ro 0 0
> > % mount -V
> > mount: mount-2.8a
> > % rpm -q mount
> > mount-2.8a-2
> > %
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From: lavoiep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: vesaFB launching X gives me a NO VALID MODES FOUND error
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 06:31:20 GMT
marc* wrote:
> hi,
>
> i'm trying to get my fury to work through vesaFB. i've done the whole thing
> (last kernel,last xfree).
> i set the VGA=794 in my lilo.conf for 1280x1024 in 16bit
> but when i "startx" it says:
> NO VALID MODES FOUND (as the fatal server error)
>
> (and then gives me an erno=111 error)
>
> ...must be a parameter in XF86Config but which?
>
> how can i fix this ?
>
> ps: i'm using redhat 5.2 and an ati 128 fury on a S-901GT iiyama 19"
>
> tks
Lilo understands hexa numbers, for 1280x1024, you can use 0x31A. Personnaly I
found that the 60 Hz
gives me too much of a headache, so I stick with 1024x768 @ 16bpp (0x317).
I also noticed that the support for 24 bit doesn't seem to be working 100%.
For instance, the colors on
Netscape aren't showing up inside the toolbar.
If you find a way to go above 60Hz, I'd really like to know how.
Have fun
Phil
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From: Mark Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Midnight Commander won't "make"
Date: 28 Mar 1999 06:32:05 GMT
Hi,
I am trying to install Midnight Commander 4.5.27. I ran configure, and
then ran make. However, when I run make it says there are "No targets to
Make. Stop." I looked in the Makefile and it is empty. There were no
errors that caused configure to stop. Why won't it make?
Thanks
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From: John McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl
Subject: Script Problems with CR/LF's
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:35:25 -0800
Hi,
I just spent a few hours tracking down a problem that has to do with
CR/LF's in scripts. First my setup:
Fairly Generic Redhat 5.2 Linux System (x86)
Tcl/Tk 8.0
Bash Shell
I had just downloaded the newest version of TkCon (1.5) and I was unable
to get it to properly execute, Even though it had the requisite:
#!/bin/sh
# \
exec wish "$0" ${1+"$@"}
In the first 3 lines, whenever I tried to execute it I got
bash: ./tkcon.tcl: No such file or directory
And yes I have both a /bin/sh (linked to bash) and a wish in /usr/bin,
After about 1 1/2 hours of sleuthing (and khexedit) I discovered that
TkCon 1.5 has '0x0d 0x0a' (CR LF) when normal unix scripts like to see
just a 0x0A (LF).
A quick
tr -d "\r"
Fixed me up just fine, but I'm still a bit bothered. I find it hard to
believe I've been able to dodge this problem for the last 10+ years
(this is the first time I have ever run across it), I also find it hard
to believe that the CR's give bash that much grief.
* Is this problem well known?
* Is there an system option to change Bash's behavior to deal with CR's
in a nicer way?
* Are we all doomed to run dos2ux or tr past all tcl scripts that were
edited on dos systems?
* Why doesn't redhat come with dos2ux?
* Am I missing something obvious?
Tcl seems to handle the CR/LF's just fine, it really seems to be a bash
problem (and perhaps all shells?), however it seems like this problem
could really hamper cross platform scripting.
Thoughts?
-John McLaughlin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Woo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: keyboard error...
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 06:50:39 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
I got a problem with Key mapping in X-windows, I don't know how it
happened.. and it was okay before.
Now, whenever I use xiterm or netscape, I can't do backspaces. In
xiterm, when I try doing backspaces, it shows a "~" in the terminal.
And in Netscape, it's actually doing a del instead of a backspace...
Could anybody help me?
Thanks a lot,
Brian
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From: "Dan M. Johnson (bagzman)(LinuxBox1)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:55:47 -0800
Eh well, I love backwards compatibility, but if it happens to speed things up, go
for it I say. The thing is that as long it dosn't act like a Micro$oft POS, sure
:) The thing about it really is, is speed. If it does happen to increase speed,
sure! If not (which I hear from some people), then I prefer the older i386 method.
-Dan- http://sypol.dynip.com
Tomasz Korycki wrote:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >
> > d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox) writes:
> >
> > > "Idea Man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone else think this would be a good idea? Keep the i386 tree, and
> > > > add an i686 tree that is optimized for P-II/Celeron/P-III processors.
> > > >
> > > > This might be a pain in the butt for the mirrors (more hard drive space
> > > > used), but for some mirrors this would be just fine. This would also make
> > > > Linux higher performing for all the people with flashy new Pentium-III
> > > > machines...
> > >
> > > How much performance improvement would there be?
> >
> > based on my experience with egcs over the past year, not much.
> >
> > the pentium classic seems to be hypersensitive to scheduling, but the
> > i686 (i have a pentiumpro) seems have roughly the same performance
> > (using time on a few of my programs) for compiles with -march=i386,
> > i486 or pentiumpro. -march=pentium hurt speed by about 10%.
> >
> Actually, if You have FP-heavy code (graphics, raytracing, FEA, CFD,
> Stats, simulation), P6-optimised code can gain You as much as 15-20%,
> compared to i386.
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From: Robert Binz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: after install Netscape 4.51
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 04:58:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 3/27/99, 6:00:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Kelley) wrote=20
regarding Re: after install Netscape 4.51:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 19:25:34 -0600, William H. Pridgen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >bio13 wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am using the Red Hat 5.2, which come with Netscape 4.07. Somethi=
ng=20
wrong
> >> after
> >> I tried to install 4.51 version. When login as root,
> >> it says that ulimit can not been found. The prompt goes
> >> wierd and the Backspace does not show well in nxterm (it functions =
well
> >> though.)
> >>
> >> I used the command "./ns-install" to setup it up. Apparently,
> >> it has not been integrated into Redhat, cause it still recognize
> >> browser in /usr/bin/netscape, not the /usr/local/netscape/netscape,=
=20
where I
> >> installed.
> >>
> >> Any idea? Thanks in advance,
> Well, you can run Netscape from the command line, OR
> you can just make a symbolic link to it ...
> ln -s /usr/local/netscape/netscape /usr/bin/netscape
> Then it will work fine, and will be in your path (probably)
What I did was,
A) I used RPM to remove the version that came with redhat
B) used ns-install and told it to use /opt/netscape as its home=20
directory
C) added /opt/netscape to my PATH
D) added MOZILLA_HOME=3D/opt/netscape; export MOZILLA_HOME to=20
/etc/bashrc
Works great. D was added so netscape would run Java
Binz
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From: "Tree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache mod_php3 w/ MySQL support.... ANYONE? For the love of God- this is
driving me insane.
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:34:22 GMT
Could someone PLEASE (for the love of God!) post a
/etc/httpd/modules/libphp3.so that has _MySQL_ support in it? [or give a
FTP/WWW url to download it]
This is the PHP-3 module for Apache. (The one that comes with Redhat only
has PostGRE SQL database support, I need a module w/ MySQL support.)
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help! =)
p.s. - I have tried EVERYthing, and am about ready to punch in my monitor.
I know someone out there in USENET land has an Apache PHP3 module with
MySQL support. BTW, I am using Redhat Linux 5.9 (Starbuck), in case you
need to know.
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From: Pankil Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:00:54 +0000
Neil Kettle wrote:
> Which Distrubution is best for a beginner?
>
> Suse or Red Hat
Well, alphabetically speaking, since "R" comes before "S", I would say
Red Hat. Just kidding.
I've heard both are good, but since I use Mandrake 5.3 (which is based
on Red Hat 5.2), and have also used the "original" RH 5.2, I'm biased
towards Red Hat. The installation (exactly the same process on either
distro) went quite smoothly for me (and I have my system dual-booting
with Win 98 as well as Ethernet connecting with another Win 98 pc at
home. Samba setup and printer/file sharing was smooth
too--eventually). Ofcourse "smoothly" is subjective--YMMV.
I think Suse comes with StarOffice 5 and KDE(?) (Mandrake comes with
WP 8 and KDE). With the "original" RH 5.2 I had to download KDE, WP 8,
and StarOffice to install them.
All-in-all, I'm pretty satisfied with an "enhanced" Red Hat 5.2 (
http://www.linux-mandrake.com ).
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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,apana.lists.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux and Netscape 4.51 (tar/gz format)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 19:07:22 +0100
Peter DeSimone wrote:
>
> Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain)
> Encoding: quoted-printable
To bad. I can't read this message.
You didn't write plain ascii. Please don't use html or attached
documents.
--
Gero H. Marten
<http://www.provi.de/gmarten/index.html>
--
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From: "David Brotman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems Installing Redhat 5.2
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 00:35:46 -0800
After running autoboot.bat from the Redhat CD the process gets as far as:
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
bdflush() activated....sleeping again
bdflush() activated....sleeping again
bdflush() activated....sleeping again
bdflush() activated....sleeping again
bdflush() activated....sleeping again
At this point it just hangs.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
David Brotman
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From: Jet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Overclocking was: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 00:41:16 -0800
Eugene wrote:
>
> Here is my dream machine:
>
> Celeron 366 overclocked to 550
OK, this is a stupid question, but how do you overclock a processor? Is
it done by setting the jumpers on the motherboard?
J
--
KY2K Jelly: The Personal Lubricant for the Next Millennium
email me at jetgal at earthlink dot net
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 02:58:38 +0000
Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> Side note: Isn't it great that Linux keeps running and doesn't require
> or force frequent rebooting. Linux is safe for your hardware!
I've been running FreeBSD and Linux, and I've never had any of those crash yet.
Windows 98 can stay running for a couple of days, that's the best case. But if I
use Cygnus' Cygwin-32 programming tools, Win98 becomes real unstable or crashes.
I've heard Windows NT is better than 98, but I don't know... it's awfully
expensive. Gee, I can hardly wait until Windows 2000 comes out! ;-) Linux and
FreeBSD both run way faster than 98, as Win98 is awfully bloated. But, it's hard to
get by without Windblows sometimes, especially if you're into electronic
music/multimedia. X still doesn't support multimedia the way Windows does. But
then again, that's what Windows is: a desktop toy with all the bells and whistles.
Wanna hear a funny joke?
Window NT!
Donn
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:33:05 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wizard wrote:
>
> It would be foolish for redhat not to develop a 686 specific
> version of Linux. The reality is if they don't someone else will.
>
Redhat do not develop anything, they "just" package it.
Cliff
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dumb question about console color...
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 04:35:24 +0000
Tim Kelley wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:14:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi, all.
> >
> >Well it does really sound dumb, but my question is that when you're fist time
> >installing Red Hat from boot.img, you get this nice set of colorful text,
> >red, blue, green... and when you're done and boot, you only get grayscale
> >fonts on the console. Now that I overlooked someone else's console and
> >noticed all this colorful fonts again, I really want this happening on my
> >monitor too. What do I need to do? I did a little bit of research, but just
> >can't find any starting point. I'm sure it's not that complicated... So,
> >please help me. I'll be really delighted to have some colors.
>
> The colors are enabled ... if you want colors for "ls"
> for eg., you just type "ls --color" ... to make it permanent,
> you just add "alias ls='ls --color' to /etc/bashrc OR to
> $HOME/.bashrc.
>
I think he means the kind of colors you get at the console, via the setterm
command. With setterm, you can set the text foreground, background, reverse video
color, etc. Like, say you want the man pager to display man pages with white text,
but instead of reverse-video white, you can use cyan instead of white reverse
hilight, that sort of thing.
Just check out man setterm.
Donn
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Compiling ELF, AOUT programs...
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 03:48:46 +0000
I have a question about compiling ELF, AOUT programs. How do I tell
gcc/ld what format I want the executable in? AFAIK, gcc compiles ELF
executables by default, but how do I get gcc/ld to produce an AOUT
executable? (Not that I want to, but what procedures would I follow
just in case).
Also, what are these files for?
/usr/lib/Mcrt1.o /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o /usr/lib/crti.o
/usr/lib/crt1.o /usr/lib/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o
/usr/lib/crtbegin.o /usr/lib/crtendS.o /usr/lib/gcrt1.o
I thought that /usr/lib/crt1.o and friends where for the AOUT
executable library. ELF doesn't require them, right?
Right now, I'm running the "old" libc5 on Slackware, which doesn't yet
have glibc2.xx. I noticed that if I build glibc-2.0.6, and specify
/usr/lib as my destination, these files get overwritten:
/usr/lib/Mcrt1.o /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o /usr/lib/crti.o
/usr/lib/crt1.o /usr/lib/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o
/usr/lib/crtbegin.o /usr/lib/crtendS.o /usr/lib/gcrt1.o
So maybe I should put these *.o files in a different directory so that
the libc5 *.o files don't get overwritten? Also, does glibc-2.0.6
have a different set of include files? If so, should I put them in a
different directory to prevent them from overwriting my libc5 include
files?
BTW, I couldn't find glibc-2.1.0 anyplace, because most ftp sites
state that glibc-2.1.0 has "been removed so some political issues can
be worked out". That makes the most current available glibc version
2.0.6, correct?
What to do. ;-)
Donn
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From: "Ted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help, Netscape, and segmentation fault
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 04:47:01 -0600
Man o man, it's been a long week. I've been playing with Linux and decided
to do the silly thing, and try to install everything by hand. So, i got a
copy of slackware 3.6, installed the basic, development, networking, and
Xwindows part of it and see what i could get running. well, since then, i've
upgraded the kernel from 2.0.35 to 2.2.4, from libc to glibc2, and xwindows
to 3.3.3.1, well, somewhere along these lines, netscape doesn't work... i'm
not sure where, but i'm guessing when i went to glibc2. anyhow, i downloaded
the unsupported version of glibc netscape, and now it's saying that i have a
segmentation fault every time i run it, and when i run the libc version of
netscape, it says it can't run the library "libXt.so.6" (which i do see in
my /usr/X11R6/libs) Well, here's the question, how do i get netscape
running... i think i have all the defaults of the os still in place (well,
other than the new kernel, libraries, and Xwindow system) but i need a web
browser. (lynx in having a hard time connecting to their site)
Thanks in advance...
Ted
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