Linux-Misc Digest #629, Volume #21                Wed, 1 Sep 99 11:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  Re: voice recognition on Linux. (Justin Clancy)
  Re: Telnet and IP Masquerading (George Vlahoulis)
  Re: mpg player for linux (George Vlahoulis)
  Linux Bumpers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: about quota (George Vlahoulis)
  Re: what's a "jiffy" in /proc? (-ljl-)
  Re: This is probably a simple one :) (DanH)
  Any DVD players for Linux (Andrew Carroll)
  Re: Errors when compiling 2.2.12 (Peter Caffin)
  Info. reg. kmalloc() and kfree() (Ananda Rao Ladi)
  Re: Cat Command not Found ("Virginia K. Wills")
  Enough is enough (Assad Khan)
  PS1 in bashrc - kshrc (Bart Vanherck)
  Linux and WS-FTP (Jim Petrillo)
  Re: Cat Command not Found ("Virginia K. Wills")
  here i am, talking to myself again... (matt shobe)
  Re: Wordperfect will *not* work! (George Vlahoulis)
  Re: Multiport card (Albert Ulmer)
  Re: HowTo extract from a tar archiv ... (Chris Campbell)
  Re: About gmake? (Chris Campbell)
  Executing a shell script (George Laverick)
  Re: send a voice message from Unix or windows (Pierre JEAN)
  Re: KDE/GNOME comparisons? (Allin Cottrell)

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From: Justin Clancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: voice recognition on Linux.
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:35:24 +0100

"Thaddeus L. Olczyk" wrote:

> Can someone tell me kind of voice recognition software is out there
> for Linux?

There are two systems I know of:

ears - but I think that development has stopped on this.
kvoice - the KDE program.  I use this and it works quite well.  It tends
to hog the sound card, so you can't have a 'conversation'
with your machine.  I have built a set of patches which allows this tho'
(must remember to post that to the authors)

--
Justin Clancy
Windoze has detected that a gnat has farted near your computer. Press any key to 
restart




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Vlahoulis)
Subject: Re: Telnet and IP Masquerading
Date: 1 Sep 1999 12:52:35 GMT

On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 00:24:40 -0600, R. Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ok, here's my situation:
>I have several PCs running through an IP Masq box for net access. The
>Masq box uses a dialup connection (slow, I know) so I'm looking for ways
>to make the most of what little bandwidth I have. I've noticed that when
>I telnet to some host Out There, telnet is slow. I have heard that
>decreasing the MTU on the ppp interface will speed this sort of thing
>up. However, it has also been said that doing this would slow down ftp
>and http transfers. Would I get any benefit from doing this? Also, would
>I have to adjust my eth* interfaces' MTUs to match? I've heard that you
>shouldn't change the MTU on ethernet interfaces as that would cause you
>to take a performance hit. I think I adjusted my MTU under windows (when
>I used it, that is) and saw a performance improvement with telnet, but
>I'm not sure about using it that way with masquarading.

For ideal performance your PPP MTU should be about 512. as for eth* interfaces
you dont need to change anything unless you have a good reason. 

As to why using small MTUs for telnet and big for ftp, its because when 
transfering data like in ftp and http, the system doesnt need to check with
the other side so often thus more work is done (ie better performance) when
using large MTUs. On the other hand when using telnet you are sending keystrokes
down the line which are only a few bytes. If you tell the system to use large
MTUs then it waits to fill that buffer before sending it so telnet seems
slow. So small MTUs means more traffic better responce more wastage. Large
MTUs means less traffic more efficient less wastage. 
I hope this all made sense...  :-)

cheers

gv


>-- 
>A robin redbreast in a cage
>Puts all Heaven in a rage.
>               -- Blake

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Vlahoulis)
Subject: Re: mpg player for linux
Date: 1 Sep 1999 13:26:50 GMT

On 31 Aug 1999 15:39:21 +1000, Duncan Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Is there an mpg player available for linux and if so where is it
>possible to get a download from??

I am using MpegTV, paid ~$20 or so and it plays VCDs as well.

htt://www.mpegtv.com/

gv

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Bumpers
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:38:06 GMT

Linux is greater than Windows bumperstickers: "LINUX > WINDOWS", black
printed on white. Let the Microsofties know that not all operating
systems are created equal. $3.00 each. RabbleTease Productions, 265 W.
Ohio Ave., Rittman, OH 44270.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Vlahoulis)
Subject: Re: about quota
Date: 1 Sep 1999 13:15:43 GMT

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:23:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>I installed redhat 6.0 in a machine. After I added quota on /, the
>machine will die at umounting file system when I reboot.  After I reset
>the machine, the machine will die when I run "passwd".
>Why?
>

What does "die" mean exactly? Any messages anything at all?
Checked the logs for messages?


gv


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>
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's a "jiffy" in /proc?
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:38:51 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Virginie Galtier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> The proc man indicates that in /proc/<pid>/stat, utime is "The number
of
>
> jiffies that this process has been scheduled in user mode."
>
> But I found 2 definitions for "jiffy" (in
> http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc):
>
> 1. The duration of one tick of the computer's system clock.
> 2. Confusingly, the term is sometimes also used for a 1-millisecond
wall
>
> time interval.
>
> So in the case of /proc/<pid>/stat, should I consider the first
> definition or the second?

Excerpted from "/usr/src/linux/Documentation/proc.txt": (2.2.7)

  ... The value is expressed in jiffies (clockticks), the
  number of jiffies per second is 100.

  ... The time, expressed in jiffies (1/100), between ...

Hope this is of some utility.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }


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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: This is probably a simple one :)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:51:00 -0400

Vincent Padua wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm not looking for the specific answer, however, I'm curious about
> what's broken here and then i'll hunt it down how to fix it.  :)  I'm
> trying to learn!
> 
> Okay, I've got RH 6.0 on my box.  I telnet into a bsdi box (4.0.1) and
> then try to open an xterm from there and i get this error:

First, don't telnet to the other box.  Use rsh, rlogin, or better yet,
disable all those and get SSH.  Future reference, GET SSH.  Okay onto
your problem.

> 
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for foo.bar.com
> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: foo.bar.com:0.0
> 
> So i thought maybe it was the xhost stuff, so I completely disabled
> anyform of authentication:
> 
> xhost +

That's fine and dandy, you've done half of the steps :)

Now, in the window you have your OTHER box on, type

DISPLAY=<hostname>:0

Change the hostname to whatever box you're sitting at.

> 
> However, I still get the same error.  Can someone lend me an explanation
> of what is broken here?  Also, here's another whacky one.  After I have
> telneted intot he bsdi box and try to vi a file on that box, everything
> looks good.  however, when I try a vim filename, I get crap like this:
> 
> ^[[35m#include ^[[31m<sys/param.h>
> ^[[35m#include ^[[31m<sys/types.h>
> ^[[35m#include ^[[31m<sys/conf.h>
> ^[[35m#include ^[[31m<sys/proc.h>
> ^[[35m#include ^[[31m<sys/user.h>
> ^[[35m#include ^[[31m<sys/malloc.h>
> ^[[35m#include ^[[31m<sys/systm.h>
> ^[[35m#include ^[[31m<sys/ioctl.h>
> ^[[35m#include ^[[31m<sys/reboot.h>

vi is a straight text based text editor.  vim is a
graphical/semi-graphical version and without your display set correctly,
you will not get a correct picture.

Dan
-- 
UNIX - Not just for vestal virgins anymore
Linux - Choice of a GNU generation

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From: Andrew Carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Any DVD players for Linux
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:48:14 +0000

Does anyone know of any software DVD players available for Linux, or at
least any that are in development ?

Many thanks

Andrew

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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Errors when compiling 2.2.12
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:33:19 +0000

Stephen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just installed the 2.2.11 and 2.2.12 patch. When I compile it I get the
> following errors:
> make[3]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[3]: *** No rule to make target 'pc_keyb.h', needed by 'pc_keyb.o'.
> Stop.
[...]

make oldconfig

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ananda Rao Ladi)
Subject: Info. reg. kmalloc() and kfree()
Date: 1 Sep 1999 08:00:09 GMT

Where can I find info. reg. some of the macros like GFP_KERNEL, etc.

How do I specify not to sleep, when allocating memory, from within the
kernel.

Pls. send me a mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- lar

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From: "Virginia K. Wills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cat Command not Found
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:29:28 +0000

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:

>         On my system, cat is in /bin.  Check to see if it is there.  It
> is one of the most elemental utilities used in linux.  /bin (on my system)
> also has things like bash, mount, echo, du.  See if /bin looks fairly
> complete.  The only other thing I can think of is that your PATH variable
> doesn't include /bin when you are running sysinit.  What you might do
> is try editing /etc/rc.d/rc.sysint (should be a text ASCII file) and
> where it says cat give it the full path name /bin/cat (assuming you have
> cat in your /bin directory).

The problem was that cat was missing completely. I finally discovered the
package that was missing. I reinstalled the textutils package. Voila cat was
back.

Now the only error message I'm getting when I reboot is after it says finding
module dependencies. Message is:
/lib/modules/2.2.11-4/net/sis900.o unresolved symbols.

Also, have to figure out the best way to install my new printer now.

Virginia



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From: Assad Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Enough is enough
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:29:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Could you people stop flaming distributions? ALL of them have bugs, and
all of them run Linux...Even the same apps. All this "redhat is buggy",
"slackware is way more stable and powerful", "so and so is the best"
really can bug people. From what I remember, the people who make any
distribution have NO clue if the product is buggy, because very few
people run it. I've used Slackware 4.0, Debian 2.1, RedHat 5.0-6.0, and
COL before, all had good points and bad points. The only reason I ask
for an opinion on a distribution is because I would like to try out the
ones people use, and because I can never just like one distribution :-)

    Assad


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From: Bart Vanherck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PS1 in bashrc - kshrc
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:30:55 +0200

Hi,

I put the following in my .bashrc file

#----
case $TERM in
  xterm* | dtterm)
    PS1="\[\033]0;\u@\h: \w\007\]\u@\h\$ "
    ;;
  *)
    PS1="\u@\h\$ "
    ;;
esac
#----

My problem is that this only works for bash
and not for ksh. How can I adapt it so that also
in ksh the title of my xterm shows the path ?



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From: Jim Petrillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and WS-FTP
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:15:50 -0400

I have a linux box running RedHad 5.2 which is primarily used for a
gateway to the internet.  I am able to use e-mail and browse the web
from my windows clients but I am having trouble with FTP using WS-FTP.

Are there any special settings I need on either the server or
workstation?


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From: "Virginia K. Wills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cat Command not Found
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:35:26 +0000

Paul Kimoto wrote:

>  Do you mean "printer"?
>

Sorry about that yes I meant printer. Cat has been found.

Virginia



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From: matt shobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: here i am, talking to myself again...
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:41:01 GMT

for the benefit of those who look up this thread because they're having
similar problems, let me say that I fixed my problem by removing two
seemingly conflicting installs of RPM telnet packages. I had to remove
them from the command line by package name, e.g.

rpm -e telnet-0.10-8mdk

since

rpe -e telnet

was an ambiguous reference (i.e., two packages named "telnet" can't be
removed).

reinstalling a single telnet package, then, and -SIGHUP'ing inetd led
to a workable telnet service. thanks to all who posted.

In article <7q6vor$635$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  matt shobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Telnet from anywhere has suddenly gone pear-shaped for my new install
> of Mandrake 6.0. (it used to work fine.) Whether I telnet to my local


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Vlahoulis)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect will *not* work!
Date: 1 Sep 1999 13:12:26 GMT

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:29:17 -0700, Will Lorentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi- When I was running Red Hat 5.2, I installed Corel Wordperfect and
>all went
>well.  Now, with a new computer and 6.0, I install it and no matter what
>I've tried,
>it seg faults when it first starts loading.  Corel's page suggested
>installing libc5,
>which I did, but this did not bring any success.  Any ideas?
>

Library resolution is I think one of linux's biggest problems.

Most likely your problem is that a symbolic link is pointing to the
wrong library.


try

ldd /dir/dir/wordperfect.exe

this should show something like this:

[gv@ashaman HTML]$ ldd /bin/cat
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40017000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)

the above happens to be for the cat command.

The output from your command should tell you if there is a library missing
but even if not it could be using the wrong version 'cos of the link 
pointing the wrong one.

If it needs 5.1 make sure that it get 5.1 and not 5.2 etc.

hope this helps.

gv

PS: Does Corel have a static version ie one with the libraries built
into the executable? Try downloading that instead.

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From: Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiport card
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:59:35 GMT

> I'm looking for a multiport serial card so I can run my modem, UPS,
> serial terminal, mouse, and Palm IIIx without continually changing
> cables around. I have tried adding a second regular serial board, but =

I
> don't have enough IRQs to do so. What kind of board is best to get? I
> only need 4 ports since I have the two already there. Also, how much=20
do
> they cost and where could I get one?

I really like the I/O-cards made by ByteRunner (www.byterunner.com),=20
especially the TC-420 and the TC-400. The card only requires one IRQ=20
for all the ports and works very well with Linux. The TC-420 costs=20
around 60 bucks.

> BTW, since I've only 1 IRQ left (don't know which one right off the=20
top
> of my head) I really could use one that could be set to work with any
> IRQ (or at least as many as possible).

You won't have problems with the ByteRunner cards there, they can use=20
almost any IRQ between 3 and 15.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Campbell)
Subject: Re: HowTo extract from a tar archiv ...
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:08:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks, and sorry for making the mistake of thinking that a tar is a
tar.
Chris

On 1 Sep 1999 00:00:44 GMT, "Mark P. Nelson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Chris Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: I'm not sure I understand fully. Tar by itself, with no added command
>: line parameter will not do absolute-path, so if you <tar xvf
>: filename.tar> it will untar the archive in the pwd. It should only be
>: when you do a <tar xvf --absolute-path filename.tar> that it will
>: cause it to untar in the incorporated paths. Or am I confused?
>: chris
>
>You are confusing GNU tar with common (or garden) tar.
>
>Using a regular, unenhanced tar, untarring an archive that has been
>created using something not too clever, like 'tar cf /dev/st0 /usr/bin'
>will give you something that will _always_ untar to /usr/bin, because
>of the leading slash in all the filenames, and it does't matter what
>directory you are in when you try to untar it.
>
>This is why you should always do something like this instead:
>
>'cd / && tar cf /dev/st0 usr/bin'
>
>Fortunately for the original poster, GNU tar will automatically strip
>leading slashes off pathnames in stupidly created archives (unless you
>tell it not to).  SO, if your Solaris box comes with some other version
>of tar, you should dump it and get GNU tar instead--problem solved.
>
>HTH.

-- 
Chris Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/tech33/
Tech33 on the IRC

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Campbell)
Subject: Re: About gmake?
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:14:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can you just make a soft link to it, ala
ln -s /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/gmake
?
Chris

On 1 Sep 1999 01:28:31 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dong-Gyu Park wrote:
>> I want to install new software but it needs gmake.
>> Is it same to "GNU make"?
>
>On some systems, GNU make is installed as "gmake" (by analogy with 
>"gawk", "gcc", ...).  This does not happen on Linux systems, where
>GNU make is the standard system "make".

-- 
Chris Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/tech33/
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From: George Laverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Executing a shell script
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:31:04 GMT

I am attempting to install sample web pages from the book "Apache: The 
Definitive Guide.  Per the instructions, I cd to the root directory of the 
cdrom and execute the command "install/install /home/webuser/install.conf".
I receive the error message "bash: install/install No such file or 
directory".  The file is there, I can open it in an editor, and I have 
checked the user privileges, and I have execute rights.  Can anyone 
suggest what I may be doing wrong?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pierre JEAN)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.networking.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc
Subject: Re: send a voice message from Unix or windows
Date: 1 Sep 1999 09:36:57 GMT


I know a tool named PHONE that can be what you are looking for

With this software,running on Windows 95-98-NT or UNIX systems,
you can call a telephone number and send a vocal message
recorded on disk to it.

PHONE can be used in a command file and it can read a return code 
entered from the telephone keyboard.

This is very interesting so when an alert occurs:
  1) you can call a telephone number and send a vocal message to it
  2) you can take a decision by entering a return code from the 
telephone keyboard

This software is distributed by EUPRO SOFT in FRANCE and you can join 
them
     at E-mail:

                  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7qim36$dfi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Hi every body
>
>I am looking for a software to send voice messages on a telephone
>I would like to use this tool for windows 95-98-NT or
>UNIX systems from commands files or from any software that can
>execute externals commands
>
>Thanks a lot ans have a good day
>


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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE/GNOME comparisons?
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:23:15 -0400

Matthew Cline wrote:
> 
> I'm am looking for comparisons of KDE and GNOME, both from the point
> of view of a user, and the point of view a developer who might want to
> do some work on an open source desktop project.  Are there any such
> comparisons out on the web?

Here's Linus on the topic (translated from the German by
Babelfish!):

c't: What do you hold from KDE?

Torvalds: I use neither KDE nor gnomes, but which I saw so far 
from KDE, pleased me. By the current quarrels in the network 
about ' KDE versus gnomes ' I developed however a certain
dislike against both. I hope, which become developers in the 
future more to co-operate.

c't: What do you use?

Torvalds: I still am in the steinzeit and use a simple FVWM Setup, 
which looks like a typical Linux installation some years ago. 
Perhaps I will transfer sometime to a more modern surface.
There I however, which do not have any reference to the Desktop, 
saw I am mainly busy with things so far no necessity.

-- 
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC

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