Linux-Misc Digest #654, Volume #19               Tue, 30 Mar 99 01:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: Is there a "modem activity light" for X (Paul Lemmens)
  Re: How do I .... (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Linux (so many flavours , what's difference?) (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Remove all headers lines except Subject and From? (oak)
  Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (dont spam me)
  rdist application (Scott Savarese)
  FTP through Netscape ("Julian Sanchez")
  Linux Training ("ITTE")
  Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... ("Stuart Fox")
  Re: Need IDE CD-R configuration help! (Todd Dunkirk)
  Re: Linux Zealots ? Was Which Voodoo for a P200? (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Matthias Warkus)
  filesys (sysv) ("Marcus J. Vale")
  Re: **Newbie question** ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Error compiling kernel for Redhat 5.2 (Bob Martin)
  Re: Uninstalling GTK ("Spud")
  Re: ICQ auf Linux (Pod)
  Re: Help!!! Sun Sparc BIOS!! (Donn Miller)

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From: Paul Lemmens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a "modem activity light" for X
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:34:03 +0100

On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Runt wrote:

 >Does anyone know if there is there a similar program for KDE?
For WindowMaker there's wmifs, which allows for monitoring of interfaces.
Perhaps you can use that one in KDE too?


Paul Lemmens            Use the Force    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mobile:                Read the Source     www.student.kun.nl/paul.lemmens
                         
"That young girl is one of the least benightedly unintelligent organic
life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to
avoid meeting." (The Ultimate Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, Marvin the
Paranoid Android)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: How do I ....
Date: 29 Mar 1999 10:36:59 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, yan seiner wrote:
>  I seem to remember reading somewhere
> that kerneld would go away and be replaced with kmod (??) but kerneld
> still seems to get installed on my system.

It is run from the start-up scripts.  You must fix them.
See Documentation/kmod.txt in the kernel source.

-- 
Paul Kimoto   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Linux (so many flavours , what's difference?)
Date: 29 Mar 1999 10:46:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[posted and e-mailed]

In article <7dneuc$mu0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have some questions:
> Q1:Can packages of slackware and Redhat be Interchanged i.e. compatibility

Generally, probably yes, but doing so obviates the biggest difference
between them: the use (in Red Hat) of a package management system, which
allows systematic tracking and upgrading of installed packages.  (Debian
does this too, in some ways better than RH does.)

> Q2:what is difference in kernels for different Linux flavours?

In principle, none.  In practice, occasionally a distributor will use a
kernel with a few drivers or other tweaks borrowed from future releases.

> Q3:What is difference (technical) between Unix and Linux?

In practice, not much.  Use of the name "Unix" is restricted to those that
have paid, passed tests, and the like.  No one has bothered spending the
time and $$$ to have any Linux flavor certified as a "Unix".  Thus we end
up with the situation that (for example) Sun's two unix flavors ("SunOS4"
and "Solaris") probably have more in common with Linux than with each
other, but they are both "Unix" and Linux is not.

-- 
Paul Kimoto   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remove all headers lines except Subject and From?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:34:48 GMT

 Hey! What about the rest of my e-mail message? What I have are
complete e-mails which I need piped through something that will remove
everything in the header except the Subject and From lines AND the
message body of course :)  So I guess the problem is how do you get
only the Subject and From lines but also keep the e-mail body...

Thanks,

-Tony

David Z. Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> oak  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> oak> Anyone know of a way I can filter out all header lines in e-mail, and
> oak> also perhaps newsgroup posts, except for the Subject and From lines?

> Lacking any other information, I'd say that 'grep' is definitely the
> right tool, something along the lines of

>         grep '^Subject:|From:' msg1 msg2 ...


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From: dont spam me<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:31:48 GMT

On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:10:30 +1200, "Stuart Fox"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Also, time for a few facts
>
>1.  NO operating system is bug free
>2. Both Linux camps and MS spend considerable time locating and fixing bugs
>3. A properly configured NT box will not Blue Screen, and will be as stable
>as a well configured Linux box.
>
>Just my two cents worth.
>
1. true
2. true
3. false


if this is true...explain this one to me. if you follow steps 1-7,
step 8 is garenteed to happen every time with every computer I've
tried it on. ( seems that the y2k patch for nt makes it compleately
unusable now instead of makeing you wait for 1/1/00 you can skip step
8 only if you install sp3 instead of sp4 but the moment sp4 is
installed, CRASH)

1 brand new computer
2 clean hd
3 nt server fresh install as primary domain controler
4 get on the net and download and apply nt serive pack 4 y2k
5 download and install mpri386 (lan to ras routeing package)
6 restart computer
7 connect to the internet
8 core dumps system restarts.

nothing not listed here was done to the system
figured it was my hardware, scraped the entire computer got a new one,
same thing.
custome built me one for this.  same thing

took the original computer, installed linux
echo 1 >/proc/system/ipv4/ip_forward
now does the job perfectly just wishing for the ml-ppp that nt has

you see, I have a dial-up sub-net and none of those advanced
technologies like isdn or adsl or cable modems are available in my
area yet. and all I want to do with this NT box is lan to ras routing.
I have different servers for everything else



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Savarese)
Subject: rdist application
Date: 29 Mar 1999 15:56:40 GMT

I have no idea which newsgroup this should go to, however since I am working
with the linux version of rdist, I thought that this would be a decent place
to start. If you can think of a better place for this message, let me know...

I am looking for any and all documentation on the rdist program. I work for
Boston University and one of the faculty I work for mentioned that he would
like to keep the files on his laptop in sync with the files on the server
(Solaris 2.6). I felt that rdist is a good program to do this. I am looking
for more information to give him and let him make the overall judgement call.

If anybody has any documentation (yes I read the man page, but I am looking
for more) can you please E-mail me....

Thanks,
Scott


--

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From: "Julian Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP through Netscape
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:58:17 -0600

Hi.

I have installed SuSE Linux 5.3
Every time I execute Netscape and I try do download something that is on a
ftp server, I get the message "For security reasons, this protocol has been
disabled".

I can ftp from a terminal with no problems, and I get that message even if i
login as root.

Where and what do I have to change to be able to download stuff with
Netscape?

thanks a lot.
Julian.




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From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:20:10 +1200

Although this isn't the forum for tech support, you missed a step in your
procedure.

You installed the mpri386 after applying SP4.  This was a bad idea.  SP4 has
fixes for these features and making changes to the networking components
without reapplying the service pack will usually cause problems (including
blue screens)

My argument still stands - a PROPERLY configured NT box will not blue screen

Stu


dont spam me wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:10:30 +1200, "Stuart Fox"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Also, time for a few facts
>>
>>1.  NO operating system is bug free
>>2. Both Linux camps and MS spend considerable time locating and fixing
bugs
>>3. A properly configured NT box will not Blue Screen, and will be as
stable
>>as a well configured Linux box.
>>
>>Just my two cents worth.
>>
>1. true
>2. true
>3. false
>
>
>if this is true...explain this one to me. if you follow steps 1-7,
>step 8 is garenteed to happen every time with every computer I've
>tried it on. ( seems that the y2k patch for nt makes it compleately
>unusable now instead of makeing you wait for 1/1/00 you can skip step
>8 only if you install sp3 instead of sp4 but the moment sp4 is
>installed, CRASH)
>
>1 brand new computer
>2 clean hd
>3 nt server fresh install as primary domain controler
>4 get on the net and download and apply nt serive pack 4 y2k
>5 download and install mpri386 (lan to ras routeing package)
>6 restart computer
>7 connect to the internet
>8 core dumps system restarts.
>
>nothing not listed here was done to the system
>figured it was my hardware, scraped the entire computer got a new one,
>same thing.
>custome built me one for this.  same thing
>
>took the original computer, installed linux
>echo 1 >/proc/system/ipv4/ip_forward
>now does the job perfectly just wishing for the ml-ppp that nt has
>
>you see, I have a dial-up sub-net and none of those advanced
>technologies like isdn or adsl or cable modems are available in my
>area yet. and all I want to do with this NT box is lan to ras routing.
>I have different servers for everything else
>
>



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From: todd@pentium2. (Todd Dunkirk)
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need IDE CD-R configuration help!
Date: 30 Mar 1999 04:53:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

You need to recompile the kernel to get the scsi generic
support; it does work, but you must be careful to choose
the following settings:

1. No IDE/ATAPI cdrom support
2. SCSI cdrom support compiled into the kernel (no module)
3. SCSI generic support compile into the kernel (no module)

This will change the device special files you will use to
access the ide cdrom devices; no longer will they be /dev/hd(x),
but /dev/scd(x). Change any /dev/cdrom symlink to reflect this.

When you run cdrecord, pass the -scanbus flag to determine
which scsibus/device your burner/reader are on; this will likely
be 0,0 and 0,1 although which is which I cannot say from the info
in your post. I used to use Xcdroast; I think it will tell you this
in a straightforward way.

I have done this successfully with three different makes of burner:
HP, Mitsumi, and Memorex. Sorry, I can't remember the model numbers,
but the HP and Mitsumi are newer devices, less than six months old.
I don't know about the Panasonic.

Hope this helps.

Todd

On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 03:51:22 GMT, Holden MacRoyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Help! I'm having trouble getting xcdroast to recognize my CD-R as a CD
>Writer.
>
>Both drives appear in the xcdroast device window but setup will not
>allow me to specify wither as read or write devices.
>
>I have an IDE Panasonic 7582-CDR, and a normal IDE CD-ROM for reading. I
>am running Mandrake Linux 5.3 (RedHat 5.2 with all the latest drivers
>updated and tested).
>
>From reading the HOWTO for CD-Writing, there is some mention that Linux
>has difficulty with IDE CD-R devices and that I have to somehow trick
>the kernel into recognizing these devices as Generic SCSI devices. The
>cdrecord and xcdroast documentation allude to this but give very little
>information in HOWTO do it.
>
>If anyone has successfully done this, please point me in the right
>direction.
>
>Thanks - S
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Zealots ? Was Which Voodoo for a P200?
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:09:41 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:51:44 +0000...
..and Shane Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Get him Robbt!
> 
> BTW Tom, I'm no computer science student, and no communist.
> I've had Linux for 16 months and it has never ever crashed.
> 
> Never. Not bad for a "hacked UNIX".

It's not a hacked UNIX, it's a complete rewrite of a POSIX-compliant
operating system, which happens to run most Unix software quite
nicely.

mawa
-- 
Q: Why do bagpipers walk when they play?
A: They're trying to get away from the noise.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:07:25 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the 29 Mar 1999 00:52:04 -0500...
..and Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:20:06 +1200, 
> > Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >o..........Meeting People
> >> >o..........Learning an OS, if you are from the MS-DOS world
> >> >o..........Finding ported drivers from odd hardware devices
> >> >o..........Meeting Chicks
> >> >
> >> 
> >> I can't think of a single OS that's good for meeting chicks  ;)
> >
> >Perhaps that's because you use Windows.
> 
> ObTTTSNBMIOF: gives a new meaning to "embedded system", eh?

Hah. Sounds like some Johnny-Bravo-ish pickup line: "Heh, foxy mama,
you look like a fiiine place to embed my system!"

mawa
-- 
Q: Why do bagpipers walk when they play?
A: They're trying to get away from the noise.

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From: "Marcus J. Vale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: filesys (sysv)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:06:49 +1100

I have been using SCO unix for years and Windoze,

I have some CAD progs I need to run.

Each time i try i get "binfmt515" not found. This SCO is XENIX comp
but i cant seem to find any info on how to load sysv at all.

Any one know how to on RH5.2
many thanks
M


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: **Newbie question**
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:15:11 GMT

In article <7d6nj8$kgj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm very new to Linux, I installed Red Hat Linux 5.1, here's my problem: In X
> Windows, my desktop is bigger than my physical monitor size. In other words,
> if I can't see the "Start" button in the lower-left hand corner of the screen
> I move my mouse pointer there and the whole screen will shift down there, but
> that gives me headaches, and is annoying.  How do I control desktop sizes
> and/or resolution?
>
> I appreciate all the help I can get!
>
> ICQ# 3682449
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
> This is the same problem I had.  My situation may help yours.  My video card

was on the board and it was using the RAM off the board not it's own video
memory like a real video card.  I went out and bought I 50 dollar video card
w/ 4 MB on it and X windows ran fine.  Like I said this may help.  Also try
the +/- after you get it working correctly with the card to change screen
size.  At least I think it's +/- I could be wrong since I'm a newbie just
trying to help Dave

============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    

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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Error compiling kernel for Redhat 5.2
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:57:38 -0600

Offhand, it looks like it can't find the assembler, as86.

Martin R. Soderstrom wrote:

> I'm recompiling my kernel to include IP Masquerading.  Most of it went well,
> but when I try to run the make zImage, it chugs along for a while, but then
> stops with:
>
> make[1]: as86: Command not found
> make[1]: *** [bootsect.o] Error 127
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'
> make: *** [zImage] Error 2
>
> Appreciate any help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Martin




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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uninstalling GTK
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 05:32:19 GMT


    'make uninstall'
or else delete all header files and gtk-config from your system.

>Hi to all !
>
>                    I have a litle problem whic i can't solve. Can
>anybody tell me how can i uninstall gtk ? I installed it
>from the src. Now when I installe the new version I have some problem
>with configuring the software I want to
>install because the configure give me the error like this:
>
>checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... no
>checking for pthread_create in -lpthreads... no
>checking for pthread_create in -lc_r... no
>checking for pthread_create... no
>checking for gtk-config... /usr/local/bin/gtk-config
>checking for GTK - version >= 1.1.12...
>*** 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.1, but GTK+ (1.2.0)
>*** was found! If gtk-config was correct, then it is best
>*** to remove the old version of GTK+. You may also be able to fix the
>error
>*** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing
>
>*** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is
>*** required on your system.
>*** If gtk-config was wrong, set the environment variable GTK_CONFIG
>*** to point to the correct copy of gtk-config, and remove the file
>config.cache
>*** before re-running configure
>no
>configure: error: GTK not installed
>redos:/usr/local/src/enlightenment-conf-0.15#
>
>How can I solve this ?
>Any help apreciated. Thank you in advance.
>Sasa
>



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From: Pod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ICQ auf Linux
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:25:51 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

micq

> Josh Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just wondering : is there a Linux ICQ that doesn't need to X ?


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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help!!! Sun Sparc BIOS!!
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:37:18 +0000

Hmmm... SPARCs have a BIOS?  I thought that only PC's had those?
Actually, I've heard that Suns & DECs have a BIOS, but it's called
"firmware"  I've used various SPARCs and DECstations back in 1993-1994,
but never really saw any boot up.  (I never really paid attention, since
it was my first foray into the UNIX world.)

Donn


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