Linux-Misc Digest #654, Volume #26 Thu, 28 Dec 00 19:13:01 EST
Contents:
scriptable http... (Miguel De Buf)
Re: Got minimal Linux, now one more question. :) ("Brian E. Seppanen")
Re: Any fix for Java in Netscape? (Neil Cherry)
Re: sndconfig and soundcore.o solution (David)
Re: How to modify Profile? (Doug O'Leary)
Re: Redhat vs Debian (Karen Rosin)
broken glibc & Redhat 7.0? (Peter Bismuti)
FTP Question ("Buck Turgidson")
Re: Backup solution at Linux (Eachep)
Re: DVD software for Linux yet? (Kyler Laird)
Re: Backup solution at Linux ... afio question. (Eachep)
Building new system (mike)
Re: How to get user input in a startup script? (Eachep)
Re: Thrashing HD (Zippy)
PPP Problem - need help urgently please! (jpenner)
Re: broken glibc & Redhat 7.0? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Compiler optimization flags question... (Juergen Heinzl)
Linux into a blank PC (Rolie Baldock)
Re: A Question... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Compaq LTE-5100 (Young4ert)
Re: Linux into a blank PC (Floyd Davidson)
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From: Miguel De Buf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: scriptable http...
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:11:35 GMT
Hi all,
I have to upload a file to the web-server using a http-post operation
with the <input type=file> tag. I looked at lynx, but lynx does not
support the post-operation for file-uploads :-((( Is there an
alternative out there somewhere ??? By the way, I am using RH-linux and
apache as webserver with php.
Thx for your answer,
Miguel
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From: "Brian E. Seppanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Got minimal Linux, now one more question. :)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:22:14 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The secret is most likely in the rungetty package, which is a getty
replacement that allows you to spawn programs. You may be able to do it
without, but I would investigate using rungetty.
Read the docs about starting minicom from the command line to dial the
number you want. Once you have that create a wrapper script that you
call from rungetty (i'd recommend making a wrapper script to make sure
that rungetty calls it properly).
call it dial, make it executable
#!/bin/sh
minicom [commands to autodial]
It's been awhile but I used to use rungetty on older pc's to spawn an
AS400 TN5250 screen, a lynx webpage that would allow pager messages to
be sent, and a perl script wrapper that would start and stop a TN3270
session.
Something like
1:2345:respawn:/usr/sbin/rungetty /usr/local/bin/dial tty1
It is fairly straightforward, once you know how to start minicom
automatically from cmdline.
D'Arque Bishop wrote:
> I figure it's probably something inittab, but the
> exact command / setting sequence eludes me. If anyone could give any advice,
> I would greatly appreciate it. :)
--
Brian Seppanen
Charter Communications
Regional Data Center 906-228-4226 ext 23
Marquette, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: Re: Any fix for Java in Netscape?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:18:04 GMT
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 18:42:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is there any fix for java and javascript for netscape? I've looked at
>> all the ns help, done the chkfontpath thing, etc. How come the ns for linux
>> can't deal with java, the ns for Macs seems to work with java and javascript
>> just fine.
>
>Both java and javascript work fine for me under Linux... What, exactly,
>is the problem you're having?
I can get User A to work fine (root also works, but I tend to avoid
using root) but User B core dumps on most Java and Javascript. I've
never been able to figure out what the problem is!
--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sndconfig and soundcore.o solution
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:20:12 GMT
"Mr. M.J. Lush" wrote:
>
> I'm posting this so some poor soul may Deja a solution
> to this problem (it may not the right answer but it worked for
> me! :-)
>
> I had a problem when I was trying to configure sound on
> my machine, I'd just compiled the kernel (2.2.18) from source
> and ran sndconfig to set up the sound ... unfortunately it would
> not run complaining that soundcore.o was not on the module search
> path.
>
> After repeatedly banging my head against the keyboard
> (and checking dejanews) I went through the xconfig one more time
> and read the help with sound card support option which said that
> compiling it as a module created soundcore.o (I had previously
> included it in the kernel) sndconfig swallowed the changed version
> without a mutter.
>
With it compiled into the kernel all you had to do was turn sound on if
you were using Gnome. It already knew what driver to use and didn't need
to be configured since it was a part of the kernel and not a module. It
didn't even need an alias line in /etc/conf.modules because it wasn't a
module.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 98.953% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to modify Profile?
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:16:09 GMT
tszeto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1. Remove quotes
PATH=${PATH}:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/java/jdk1.3/bin
2. Ensure it's exported...
export PATH
--
========================
Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:26:53 +0200
From: Karen Rosin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
LuisMiguel Figueiredo wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Systwo User) wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >> [ . . ]
> >wroot, I am running Debian 2.2 on one machine and RH 7.0 on another.
>
> [...]
>
> >Debian on the other hand take longer to install ( I have not figured out
> >how to use Lizard with Debian) and requires more knowledge about the
> >machine, but once it is up and working right it stays working. I have
> >used early versions of Slack and Caldera and recent versions of Red Hat,
> >Mandrake and Debian and Debian seems to be the most stable. In-fact
> >that is what I user for my server.
> >
> >jj
> >
> Debian it's really easy to install! Just install the base system to allow
> booting in linux.
> Then run dselect.
> Select the packages you want and install everything from the net.
>
> Everytime you want to update your system just select update and install on
> dselect.
>
> Anything better than this?
Not better, but different: download Aduva Manager and just select what you
want to update and it downloads and installs with dependencies etc.
Works with RPMs only, for the time being:)
www.aduva.com
really cool
Cheerio,
K.
>
>
> --
> +--------------------------------+
> |elmig |
> |http://www.alunos.ipb.pt/~ee3931|
> |Luis.Figueiredo AT pt.bosch.com |
> +--------------------------------+
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: broken glibc & Redhat 7.0?
Date: 28 Dec 2000 21:38:10 GMT
It looks like I need glibc2.1.3 to run Blackdown Java 2 SDK.
I have downloaded it, can I install it safely, or could it break others
things? I am using Redhat7.0.
Thanks
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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP Question
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:59:00 GMT
I am trying to FTP from/to a linux server. It connects, but then says "Connection
closed by remote host". I don't see any FTP
services running on the linux server. Are there none installed, or do I just need to
start a process?
These are the relevant packages installed.
[root]# rpm -qa | grep ftp
ftp-0.15-1
gftp-2.0.4-1
ncftp-3.0beta19-2
tftp-0.15-1
This is what's running.
ps ax
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
1 ? S 0:03 init [3]
2 ? SW 0:00 [kflushd]
3 ? SW 0:00 [kupdate]
4 ? SW 0:00 [kpiod]
5 ? SW 0:01 [kswapd]
6 ? SW< 0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
269 ? SW 0:00 [portmap]
311 ? S 0:00 syslogd -m 0
322 ? SW 0:00 [klogd]
338 ? S 0:00 crond
354 ? S 0:00 inetd
371 tty1 SW 0:00 [mingetty]
372 tty2 SW 0:00 [mingetty]
373 tty3 SW 0:00 [mingetty]
374 tty4 SW 0:00 [mingetty]
375 tty5 SW 0:00 [mingetty]
376 tty6 SW 0:00 [mingetty]
409 ? S 0:00 in.telnetd
410 pts/0 SW 0:00 [login]
411 pts/0 S 0:00 -bash
542 pts/0 SW 0:00 [su]
543 pts/0 S 0:00 bash
816 ? S 0:00 ora_pmon_ORCL
818 ? S 0:00 ora_dbw0_ORCL
820 ? S 0:00 ora_lgwr_ORCL
822 ? S 0:00 ora_ckpt_ORCL
824 ? S 0:02 ora_smon_ORCL
826 ? S 0:00 ora_reco_ORCL
828 ? S 0:00 ora_snp0_ORCL
830 ? S 0:00 ora_snp1_ORCL
832 ? S 0:01 ora_snp2_ORCL
834 ? S 0:01 ora_snp3_ORCL
836 ? S 0:00 ora_s000_ORCL
838 ? S 0:00 ora_d000_ORCL
853 ? S 0:00 /u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/bin/tnslsnr LISTENER -i
857 ? S 0:04 oracleORCL (DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=no)(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=
885 pts/0 R 0:00 ps ax
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eachep)
Subject: Re: Backup solution at Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:06:46 GMT
On Fri, 08 Dec 2000 18:59:59 GMT, Lee Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insisted:
> >>>>> I think the best way, if you do not wish to purchase commercial
> >>>>> software such as BRU, is to use a shell script with find and cpio in
> >>>>> it. Have cron schedule it to run when you are asleep so it does not
> >>>>> get in your way and so you do not annoy it.
>
> This brings up a question I have been wanting to ask:
>
> What's wrong with tar?
Aside from anecdotal stories about tar not handling strange file types
well (pipes?), afio archives can be recovered even if the tape is
damaged. The entire archive will be lost in that case when using tar.
--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
TopQuark Software & Serv. Contract programmer, server bum.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Give up Spammers; I use procmail.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kyler Laird)
Crossposted-To: alt.video.dvd,alt.video.dvd.software
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:00:37 +0000 (UTC)
"Mattias Dahlberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Yes, LinDVD exists ("the WinDVD for Linux") but it's currently
>available only to certain manufacturers.
They've been lying about a general release date
for ages. (I have e-mail to back up that
assertion.)
They have also equated wanting to purchase DVDs
and then watch them on a personally-controlled
computer to conducting a campaign of bombings.
http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/11/15/linux.dvd.idg/index.html
That quickly moved me from being a customer-in-
waiting to an enemy.
Screw Intervideo. Check out Xine.
http://xine.sourceforge.net/
It's all I've ever used to watch DVDs. It has
synchronized sound, great video, and gets over
90% of the frames on my Thunderbird 850. It
may not have all of the overhead of LiViD, but
it plays movies beautifully.
(I'm using an old and heavily-modified version
of Xine. It's probably gotten even better.)
--kyler
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eachep)
Subject: Re: Backup solution at Linux ... afio question.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:14:02 GMT
On Sat, 09 Dec 2000 20:05:33 -0600, Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insisted:
> Lee Allen wrote:
>
> > >>>>> I think the best way, if you do not wish to purchase commercial
> > >>>>> software such as BRU, is to use a shell script with find and cpio in
> > >>>>> it. Have cron schedule it to run when you are asleep so it does not
> > >>>>> get in your way and so you do not annoy it.
> >
> > This brings up a question I have been wanting to ask:
> >
> > What's wrong with tar?
>
> I'm with you. I'm a lot less interested in the ease with which the backup is
> made than with the ability to easily recover from a disaster. Everything I
Do any of you afio guys know what the -c switch on afio ought to be
set at? The man page mentions no default value. I'm testing -c 20
now and the drive appears to be performing better than usual. Loadavg
is 1.26, 1.09, 1.09 on a 96 Mb RAM amd486dx4-100, and hardly any swap's
being used.
--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
TopQuark Software & Serv. Contract programmer, server bum.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Give up Spammers; I use procmail.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Building new system
From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:23:11 GMT
I want to replace my computer with newer stuff (this P-200 system is too
slow to be any fun anymore). I'll probably buy parts and build it.
Problem is, I've been out of the loop for so long I don't even know what a
decent Linux baseline system is anymore. So:
Which processor?
Which m/b?
How much and what kind of RAM?
What kind of video/how much video RAM?
I've always liked how easy IDE is but I'd like to get a scanner and a
recordable CD setup so should I switch to SCSI or stick with lower cost
IDE (I don't know jack about SCSI)?
I don't want anything that's bleeding-edge - I just want something faster
and more modern. And I'd like to keep it around $1000 (or less).
This is a system for home use. I don't play any games. I use it mainly
for Internet and some working from home.
And is there a Linux site somewhere which lists suggestions for system
components that will work together (not the hardware validation site)?
Thanks...
Mike
--
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hardymi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas; took the dog - Dorothy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eachep)
Subject: Re: How to get user input in a startup script?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:28:35 GMT
On Sat, 09 Dec 2000 20:16:56 GMT, Scott M. Navarre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insisted:
> I have two servers (a primary and a backup) which share a RAID array
> between them, and so I do not want each server to mount that RAID filesystem
> automatically (definitely not a good thing to have the same filesystem
> mounted by two seperate servers at the same time).
> I have modified my /etc/fstab file to use "defaults,noauto" to prevent it
> from automatically being mounted. But now I would like to add a section to
> my /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit (right after the 'mount -a' command already in
> there) to ask the user if they would like to mount the RAID, before
> continuing with startup.
>
> I have tried using the '#!/bash/sh' method of 'echo'ing the question and
> using 'read' to get the users response.
> But after the user enters the input (in this case 'n'), it gives the error:
> /etc/rc.sysinit: [n: command not found
>
> So, how do you get user input in the '#!/bin/sh' format that the startup
> script uses?
I don't have an rc.sysinit but it looks like test (for which [ is an
alias) is attempting to execute n
My scripts go like:
#!/bin/bash
#
# set -x
echo -n "Yes or no (y/N)? "
read ans
if [ "X${ans}" = Xn ]; then
magic_happens
fi
--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
TopQuark Software & Serv. Contract programmer, server bum.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Give up Spammers; I use procmail.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zippy)
Subject: Re: Thrashing HD
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:32:23 GMT
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:23:22 +0100, Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Zippy wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just installed Mandrake, RH 6.5. While useing KDE i get
>> constant reading to/from HD. The OS seems to stall of course.
>> I have 64m ram and 50 meg swap on same HD.
>>
>> Solutions? Need more info?
>
<snip>
>
>64 MB is not very much, if you're using a memory hock like
>NS-crashicator.
>
>With 64 MB you should use 128 MB swap, but it won't help you much, try
>to get more memory...:-(
I thought Linux could run woth less memory than Windows. Anyway
this is a comp that I'm just playing with for now but when I'm done it
should be a NT/Linux, so I can get more memory. I'm thinking of either
adding 64 or 128MB.
What swap spaces would I use for each and where is a good web
site for beginners. Somewhere that will tell me about how to
partition, hardware, etc.
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:45:37 -0800
From: jpenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP Problem - need help urgently please!
I am having an annoying problem with PPP in my Mandrake 7.0. As root, I
can connect to my ISP and various other services, but none of my user
accounts are able to. I can start KPPP, and it appears to behave
normally, making the connection, and indicating that it has connected,
but once it is connected, my web browser can not access anything on the
web. I have set suid on my kppp, but to no avail. These are the
permissions currently on my /etc/ppp directory, and as far as I can tell
they seem correct:
-rw------- 1 root daemon 78 Dec 21 1999 chap-secrets
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 11 1999 ioptions
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 265 Sep 16 1997 ip-down*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 406 Sep 6 1999 ip-up*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 5 Dec 21 1999 options
-rw------- 1 root root 123 Dec 18 21:04 pap-secrets
drw------- 2 root daemon 4096 Dec 21 1999 peers/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47 Dec 18 21:19 resolv.conf
My KPPP is set to: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 523380 Dec 18
13:02 /usr/bin/kppp
The PPP files from /usr/sbin seem fine, although I am not sure if they
are actually required in a dial-up modem connection. They are:
-rwx------ 1 root root 150362 Nov 11 1999 /sbin/ipppd*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18117 Nov 11 1999 /sbin/ipppstats*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 48124 Jan 11 2000 /sbin/ppp-watch*
I have read the "ppp-HOWTO" and have not found the answer to this
problem. If anyone could give me a hand with this, I would be very
grateful. Responses to this NG, or to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" would be
most appreciated. Thanks in advance, John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: broken glibc & Redhat 7.0?
Date: 28 Dec 2000 23:12:27 GMT
In article <92gbs2$1hb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Bismuti wrote:
>It looks like I need glibc2.1.3 to run Blackdown Java 2 SDK.
>
>I have downloaded it, can I install it safely, or could it break others
>things? I am using Redhat7.0.
[-]
IIRC RH 7.0 came with some pre-version of glibc-2.1.3, so
you might upgrade to the final version or glibc-2.2 or go
with glibc-2.1.3 and wait for glibc-2.2.1. Might be the best
if you don't have special requirements.
Cheers,
Juergen
--
\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Compiler optimization flags question...
Date: 28 Dec 2000 23:12:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Geoff Stanbury wrote:
>Hi. I'm a little confused about some of gcc's optimization flags.
>What is the difference between "gcc -mcpu=<cpu> -march=<cpu>" and
>simply "gcc -march=<cpu>"?
>
>Additionally, what is the difference between the -mcpu and the -march
>flags?
[-]
info gcc
Invoking GCC
Optimize Options
Ta',
Juergen
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolie Baldock)
Subject: Linux into a blank PC
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:19:55 GMT
Hello Folks,
I have a blank PC (486 DX2-66) set aside for Linux. No Windows. HDD
partitioned into 2 partitions as requested in Red Hat booklet and
armed with Red Hat CD where do I go next. Thinks !! I might make a
boot floppy with RAWHIDE on the CD ??? Correct ??? Then what??? Don't
have any info on the monitor, never needed it before so why now?
PARTINFO and FIPS provide partition info. No I cannot afford a BLOODY
Pentium and I don't need another PC in the house, anymore and I'll go
bananas. So don't make any such stupid suggestions. I only want
initially a better LAN server system and I think Linux may be the
answer.
--Rolie Baldock. email: <berd_kalamunda@'nospam'techemail.com>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Question...
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:07:04 +0100
Bit Twister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just for fun I did a locate bin/ | wc -l
> which means locate all program/files in the *bin/ directories
> and it returned 4098. I am running Mandrake Deluxe with all
> 4 cds loaded. For you, I would go with the 2cd for starters.
boe:/usr/oboe/ptb% locate bin/ | wc -l
6531
(slackware 3.0, 256MB /usr, 1GB /usr/local, ...)
Peter
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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compaq LTE-5100
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:24:21 GMT
Hi,
I am some questions on the Compaq LTE-5100 (Pentium 120MHz) system that
only has a 32MB memory. Will it run Linux with X11 and KDE2? Will it be
sluggish?
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux into a blank PC
Date: 28 Dec 2000 14:46:43 -0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolie Baldock) wrote:
>Hello Folks,
>
>I have a blank PC (486 DX2-66) set aside for Linux. No Windows. HDD
>partitioned into 2 partitions as requested in Red Hat booklet and
>armed with Red Hat CD where do I go next. Thinks !! I might make a
>boot floppy with RAWHIDE on the CD ??? Correct ??? Then what??? Don't
>have any info on the monitor, never needed it before so why now?
>PARTINFO and FIPS provide partition info. No I cannot afford a BLOODY
>Pentium and I don't need another PC in the house, anymore and I'll go
Do yourself a favor and check out the price of a Pentium motherboard
on eBay or wherever. A couple years ago I was fooling around with
a two 486DX66 cpu's, and eventually replaced them with Pentiums for
under $30 plus shipping.
It was well worth it, and certainly the price cannot have gotten
any higher. You can probably buy a complete box with ps, sd, kbd,
and everything for almost that low these days!
Floyd
>bananas. So don't make any such stupid suggestions. I only want
>initially a better LAN server system and I think Linux may be the
>answer.
Linux or FreeBSD. But get a Pentium.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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