Linux-Misc Digest #722, Volume #19 Sat, 3 Apr 99 11:13:07 EST
Contents:
linux for Sparc 5 ("Michael E. O'Sullivan")
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (Christopher)
Apache configuration tool (Erik Bas)
Re: How do I monitor my modem ("Curt")
New Microsoft News (Mykool)
Re: SuSE 6.0 on UMSDOS filesys failed (Dick Repasky)
Re: SuSE 6.0 on UMSDOS filesys failed (F. Heitkamp)
$6 for $42000 in four weeks ("Goodwomen")
Re: How do I unlock my modem? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else??? (Andre van Dijk)
Re: libstdc++.2.8.1.1 Compile problem (mist)
Re: Proprietary Linux -- End Of Open Source Software! (ken klavonic)
SuSE 6.0 on UMSDOS filesys failed (KKnauer111)
backup .tgz file > 2gb (Jens Albrecht)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs? (Harry)
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From: "Michael E. O'Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux for Sparc 5
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:05:22 +0100
I've got a Sparc 5 70 Mhz (with 80 Mb RAM and a 1.2 gig disk)
and I've been using Solaris 2.5.
My hard disk died, so I am facing the question of what new OS to
install. Most of the postings compare Linux with Windows. How
does it compare with Solaris?
I want an OS that will be trouble free more than anything.
I run the machine as a stand alone with access to a network.
I dont do anything very fancy
(emacs, gcc, netscape, latex, maple and some freeware math packages)
I dont mind learning a bit, but I'll never be a true hacker.
Mike
--
Michael E. O'Sullivan
Dept of Mathematics
University College Cork
Cork, Ireland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone prefixes: 353 (Ireland), 21 (Cork)
902316 (office)
902540 (maths dept.)
903106 (FAX)
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From: Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:37:45 -0600
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the 2 Apr 1999 15:24:18 -0500...
> ..and Tom Betz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Quoth "George Georgakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in
><01be7653$3a3ea620$0101a8c0@george>:
> > |Much as I hate to say it, for ease of use and for those of the "just
> > |install and use it" crowd, I must agree that Win9* is currently ahead of
> > |all flavours of Linux.
> >
> > Sad, but true.
> >
> > Little things annoy. For example, there is no common buffer for
> > cutting and pasting between apps.
>
> Sure there is.
>
> > You can't do something as simple
> > as paste text copied from an xterm session into, say, Netscape.
>
> Netscape is a screwed-up app, that's why it works with almost
> everything but Netscape.
>
> mawa
> --
> My guess is Absoft did things right. Now if we could just get
> Microsoft on the bandwagon.
> -- Bill Seymour
Try holding the shift key while highlighting the text and hold shift when pasting. I
can paste just about
anywhere with this method.
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Bas)
Subject: Apache configuration tool
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, does anyone have a configuration tool for the apache webserver in
xwindows..
that easier than editing the config files
thx, Erik
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From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How do I monitor my modem
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 06:52:52 -0500
I'm sure some of this could be done with mrtg. Probably all of it if
you're willing
to do some coding.
http://break.org/tommy/linux/mrtg/
Stephen Thomas wrote in message <3VeN2.248$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am using diald to dial up a ppp account with my ISP. I would like to
>monitor the modem connection rate, time connected, bytes sent, bytes
>received, etc. Is there a utility to do this?
>
>Thanks,
>Steve
>
>
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From: Mykool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: New Microsoft News
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:46:52 -0500
Someone finally needs to say this. This is not an anti-microsoft
newsgroup. This is a linux group!!! I could care less about the new
things microsoft does to "screw up the computer industry." I have no
real problem with microsoft or microsoft products. I dual boot RH and
NT. If I want to hear bitching about how microsoft is a bad company and
how much their products suck, I would read
comp.os.microsoft.bitching.from.linux.users.who.have.nothing.better.to.do.
Personally I think microsoft was good for the computer industry. If
there were no microsoft, there would be no real standard in computer
software and in some ways hardware. Stuff would cost more because the
manufacturers would have to make versions of the product for god knows
how many different platforms. True, the identifier stuff they are using
now isn't a good thing, but it also isn't a totally bad thing. I'm all
for anonimity and everything, but I also don't do anything that would
matter if it could be traced back to me. Hell, I read how they've
traced to origin of the Melissa virus because of this ID stuff. And
when some asshole posts some stupid "Linux Sux" stuff, be a damn adult
and ignore it. I hate seeing threads that are 100+ posts just to say
"linux is good and microsoft sux." I use Linux on a daily basis, but I
still use NT for certain things that. I like microsoft and linux. To
sum up my rant here, keep the microsoft bullshit out of these groups.
These are forums for linux!!!
--
Michael Barnhill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte294f
ICQ 13526262
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dick Repasky)
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.0 on UMSDOS filesys failed
Date: 3 Apr 1999 14:53:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3 Apr 1999 12:22:08 GMT, KKnauer111 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I tried to install SuSE 6.0 evaluation version on a FAT32 1GB partition, but
>it failed after I made the mountpoint with an error saying that I had to check
>my Filesystem. I then tried to install it on FAT16 and it also failed. SuSE
>wrote in an article on their Support database that I must use the EXT2 filesys.
>While this is inacceptable I find out that the file causing the problem is the
>SUSE
> / IMAGES / ROOT file, but there is not update on their FTP-Server.
>
>Someone has an Idea to solve this problem?
I can't solve the problem for you, but I can warn you that your problem
could be bigger than you know. My understanding is that there
is a bug in the kernel that will not allow UMSDOS root file systems to be
mounted after an initrd image has been used during bootup. It is true for
the 2.0.* kernel series, and I believe that it's true for the 2.2.* kernel
series. So, if SuSE uses and initrd on bootup, and if SuSE hasn't patched
the kernel, UMSDOS on a root file system will not work.
--
Remove the underscore from my e-mail address to reply by mail.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (F. Heitkamp)
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.0 on UMSDOS filesys failed
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Apr 1999 14:55:19 GMT
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(KKnauer111) writes:
>
I've tried UMSDOS with the latest kernels/libs on both FAT32 and FAT and it
seems to be broken. The libc5 based Linux with the 2.0.xx kernels seemed to
work fine.
Fred
>I tried to install SuSE 6.0 evaluation version on a FAT32 1GB partition, but
>it failed after I made the mountpoint with an error saying that I had to check
>my Filesystem. I then tried to install it on FAT16 and it also failed. SuSE
>wrote in an article on their Support database that I must use the EXT2 filesys.
>While this is inacceptable I find out that the file causing the problem is the
>SUSE
> / IMAGES / ROOT file, but there is not update on their FTP-Server.
>
>Someone has an Idea to solve this problem?
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From: "Goodwomen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.lynx
Subject: $6 for $42000 in four weeks
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:47:37 +0400
THIS REALLY CAN MAKE YOU EASY MONEY!! IT WORKS!!! BUT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT
TO A LETTER FOR IT TO WORK!!!!
A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are
now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make
thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00!
So I thought," Yeah, right, this must be a scam", but like most of us, I was
curious, so I kept reading.
Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address
stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the
bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups.
(There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and
talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured what
have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right? Like most of us I was a
little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So
I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they
confirmed that it is indeed legal! Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well
GUESS WHAT!!... within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was
shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in. In
my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made
a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's
still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just
over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in rapidly. It's certainly worth
$6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more than that on the lottery!!
Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works....also,
make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the
information off of it as you need it. STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper
and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR
MAILING LIST." Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6
pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent
thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them.
You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating
the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are
doing is creating a service by this. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! Mail the 6
envelopes to the following addresses:
#1) Grant
P.O.Box 703394
New Smyrna Beach, FL 32170 USA
#2) MIKE ELEFANT
502 N. FRANCES ST. 510E
MADISON WI 53703 USA
#3) Gerry
P.O. Box 854
Pomona, NJ 08240 USA
#4) Hope
112 E. Madison St.
Paulsboro, NJ 08066 USA
#5)Quishia
P.O. Box 174
Clarksboro, NJ 08020-0174 USA
#6) Alex
P.O. Box 1
Russia, Moscow 117630
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other
names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on
the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article
as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least
200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 24,000 groups) All you need is
200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! ---
DIRECTIONS-----HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1) You do not need
to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor
at the beginning of this letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this
document, and select 'copy' from the edit menu. This will copy the entire
letter into the computers memory. Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and
place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select
'paste'. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can
add your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt
file. If you want to do your postings in different sittings, you'll always
have this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and
try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat
sites, discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this
article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and
selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the
header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a
particular group, click the post message button. You're done with your first
one!
Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different
newsgroupes and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about
30 seconds for each newsgroup!
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!!
BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin reciving
money from around the world within days! You may eventually wany to rent a
P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to
stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will
deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very
low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now,
each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings,
each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original
5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts
with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional
$125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my
name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional
$626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a
MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies,
that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this
message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200
newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With a original investment of
only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take
the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on
the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The
thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all over the
world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST
LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I
think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one
sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when
there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the
internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates
are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those
joining the actual internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this
will work.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: How do I unlock my modem?
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:14:53 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 2 Apr 1999 23:41:51 -0500...
..and Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:57:40 -0700, SEATTLE wrote:
> >Try this site
> >
> >http://home.att.net/~aubreyb
> >
> >
> >Click the linux Link, Scroll down to Modems & Linux site and to another
> >link"Linux and Modems. Modems & Linux site lets U ask questions and provides
> >answers
>
> Pretty original, you asshole.
> Could not you just say "go to DejaNews.com" instead of this
> abrakadabra (I mean, if you can not just answer the question)?
>
> As to the original question, it has already been answered...
>
> No regards,
> Andrew
>
> PS. Well, if silly you just did not know what DejaNews is, then I
> will spare that asshole for another time.
*PLONK* (No further comment.)
mawa
--
The national editors of this country are brain dead when it comes to
doing investigative reporting about the federal government's handling
of AIDS. -- Journalist Randy Shilts author of And The Band Played On,
on "Fresh Air", NPR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:19:17 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sat, 03 Apr 1999 05:06:07 -0500...
..and Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > it's considerably more high-level than, say, pico
>
> I'm relieved to hear that. So, it's object-oriented? Does that
> mean you have to instatiate the letter "a" from class "a"
> before you can use it?
Look up how one deletes a word, a line, part of a line, a selection, or
a paragraph with vi.
mawa
--
You probably didn't notice, but during the past year, the moon slipped
about one and a half inches farther from the earth
--
Joel Bloch, "Stardate", NPR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre van Dijk)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else???
Date: 3 Apr 1999 10:28:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 04:48:58 GMT, David M. Cook wrote:
>On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:28:39 -0700, Jon Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I don't like 'diald'. It works fine. But I want something a little
>>more interactive.
>
>Diald provides a way for anyone to interact with it via a named pipe. I
>forget the name of pipe, something like /etc/daild/diald.something. You can
You can set it in diald.conf
>echo stuff to that file to control the connection (if you set permissions on
>it correctly.)
There's also a X frontend for that. Try dctrl
--
A. van Dijk Hmmm, I smell Bacon, Elvis is in the kitchen
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Denis Leary
icq : 4249631 Linux: What you read is what you get.
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: libstdc++.2.8.1.1 Compile problem
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:12:20 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Austin Gresham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
[Compiling libstdc problems]
>access the library (libstdc++.so). The message is:
>
> libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `exception virtual table'
>
I had that exact same error message come up when I was upgrading my
libc5 libraries and installing glibc2 libraries at the same time for
cross compilation.. The only way around it was to recompile those.
Earlier problems must have been affecting the compilation, I think.. 8-(
It did eventually work (under 2.8.1 and GNU make 2.75 I think.)
Still, my setup still seems broken, as I can't compile some other
things...
--
Mist.
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From: ken klavonic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Proprietary Linux -- End Of Open Source Software!
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 09:36:21 -0500
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Fri, 02 Apr 1999 18:24:39 GMT...
> ..and Juergen Heinzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
> > ><LI><a
>href="http://www.salonmagazine.com/21st/feature/1999/04/01feature.html">Salon 21st |
>Money talks -- open source walks</a>
> >
> > You're 24 hours late ...
> > > SALON | April 1, 1999
> > ....
>
> Yes. It's a shame; it was the best-done AFJ I've seen so far (and I
> suppose I won't see any more AFJs this year:).
>
No it's not a shame.. I couldn't even *look* at slashdot - there were so
many things that had just enough plausability to make me wanna wretch,
including the LinuxSoft "announcement".
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (KKnauer111)
Subject: SuSE 6.0 on UMSDOS filesys failed
Date: 3 Apr 1999 12:22:08 GMT
I tried to install SuSE 6.0 evaluation version on a FAT32 1GB partition, but
it failed after I made the mountpoint with an error saying that I had to check
my Filesystem. I then tried to install it on FAT16 and it also failed. SuSE
wrote in an article on their Support database that I must use the EXT2 filesys.
While this is inacceptable I find out that the file causing the problem is the
SUSE
/ IMAGES / ROOT file, but there is not update on their FTP-Server.
Someone has an Idea to solve this problem?
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From: Jens Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: backup .tgz file > 2gb
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:40:25 +0200
hi,
i want to copy the content of one hardisk to another harddisk, the
second disk is smaller than the first one, because of this i have to
compress the files. the problem with gzip an tar is, that the .tgz file
will become bigger than 2gb and linux can't handle this (the system runs
with an intel cpu). i think the easiest way ist to copy and gzip the
files the same time, but i've no idea, how i can do this. i've tried
afio -cZ, but i've got only errors.
any ideas?? or knows somebody a packer for linux like arj, that can
start a new file after a specified size??
thx,
jens
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 10:46:34 -0500
> Look up how one deletes a word, a line, part of a line,
> a selection, or a paragraph with vi.n
I did that ages ago, before coming to the conclusion I'd,
rather bathe in acid than use vi. Didn't see any object-,
orientation.
BTW There's no way I'm going to investigate vi any furthernow I've f
now I've found an editor I'm perfectly happy with. Life's too
short for vi.d
Harry
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