Linux-Misc Digest #729, Volume #19 Sat, 3 Apr 99 21:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: About Redhat Distribution (Richard Steiner)
how smail works ? (Benjamin HERZOG)
Re: host.allow and host.deny (Nick Lucent)
Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform" (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: UDMA-Generic patch (Andrew Comech)
Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform" (Jeremy Crabtree)
Dosemu problem with Windows 95 (IBMackey)
Re: Proprietary Linux -- End Of Open Source Software! (Gerard Motola)
Linux Netscape and helper apps (Frederick J. Dickey)
emacs launches internet connection (Eric Bohn)
telnet as mailer (Benjamin HERZOG)
Re: Help ! How do I mount audio cdroms ? (Bob Martin)
Re: slide-maker for linux? (Scott Johnston)
Re: emacs launches internet connection (Robert Heller)
Re: SCSI Controller Probe Order??? (Stuart R. Fuller)
New linux portal & helpsite ("Byron MIller")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: About Redhat Distribution
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:26:26 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "���@�@" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>After you install RedHat, is it a must that rpm should be use to install
>all other software?
No, you can still install things via tarballs and such. But you lose
any advantages that rpm would give you with those packages.
I've installed a lot of stuff here that way. Works fine.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
ONLINE? Good! Hit <ALT-H> to take the IQ test......
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From: Benjamin HERZOG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how smail works ?
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 02:14:29 +0200
Hello ,
I am runing Linux 2.2.4, and try to install smail-3.2
I have an e-mail address with smtp and pop3 server.
I edited the EDITME file, but i didn't see any of the fundamental
things:
-address of the pop3 server
-address of the smtp server
-link to mail reader (elm)
Thank you for helping.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Lucent)
Subject: Re: host.allow and host.deny
Date: 4 Apr 1999 00:15:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove _ to reply)
On 14 Mar 1999 00:54:41 -0500, Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<>In article <7cf9ho$goa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, KillaBee wrote:
<>> Hello,
<>> does anyone know the proper way to get these to work with mountd?
<>>
<>> I have tried in the hosts.allow file
<>> mountd : ipnumber
<>
<>This is just a guess: have you tried "rpc.mountd" instead of "mountd"?
<>I just use both names:
<>
<>mountd,rpc.mountd: ipnumber[s]
<>
<>(And don't you need to have an entry for "portmap" or "rpc.portmap" or
<>both, too?)
<>
<>--
<>Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I believe your looking for portmap.
portmap : ip
Least thats what it is in debian...
Nick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform"
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 00:21:54 GMT
On 3 Apr 1999 21:16:08 GMT, Jeremy Crabtree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Christopher B. Browne allegedly wrote:
>>The following little script is what I reference with EDITOR and
>>VISUAL; it checks to see if XEmacs or GNU Emacs are running, and
>>latches onto them if possible. Alternatively, it runs "jed."
>
>Why not just use an editor that works in both places?
>(like GNU emacs, or wpe)
a) If I've not already got an Emacs running, I'd rather not spawn one
just to edit a news message or some such thing.
b) Low cost, low cholesterol, more functionality...
>>I use something roughly equivalent to pass URLs from the shell to
>>Netscape;
>
>Like from tty1 to Netscape? OR just from an XTerm to Netscape?
>If it's the former, PLEASE share, if the latter, nevermind.
>From *anything* to Netscape.
% Netscape http://www.bart.net/~simpsons/
will
a) Start Netscape, if it's not running,
b) Head a Netscape "window" to the specified URL.
The script looks like the following...
#!/bin/ksh
NETSCAPE=/home/cbbrowne/Netscape/netscape
eval $NETSCAPE -remote "openURL\($1\)" </dev/null >/dev/null 2>&1
if [ $? != 0 ]; then
eval nohup $NETSCAPE "$1" </dev/null >/dev/null 2>&1 &
fi
If DISPLAY is set appropriately, it can get at Netscape from
anywhere...
>(I use X and multiple text consoles a lot, so being able to send
> stuff from a console to X would be incredibly useful)
Rumor has it that there's some sort of regex matcher for RXVT that can
allow the gentle user to "somehow click" on a URL on screen, have RXVT
"macro" determine what portion is URL, and then do something like my
script above...
I've never beena ble to figure it out.
>> it spawns a Netscape process if one isn't already present.
>>It would doubtless be easy enough to build up more complex schemes to
>>search for other web browsers that might be running.
>
>Or, SHOULD be as easy...actaully passing info to them, however,
>might not work if they don't all share some base-level of
>functionality.
Surely so. You at least get the opportunity to *try* to do
something.
Note that if you decide to use (say) Chimera, even if the script has
to spawn a brand new Chimera process, you can at least share some
shared memory with existing instances.
>>Not rocket science.
>
>No...but it still seems to go againt the KISS principle.
I disagree. It adds substantial power with a few simple lines of
code. It may appear less-than-approachable to the "completely
computer naive," but it's certainly not nasty complex stuff.
If you want *really* K001 stuff, take a look at the macro archives for
command completion for zsh. *Lots* of wild stuff there.
Red Hat made what strikes me as a *big mistake* in leaving the samples
out of /usr/doc/zsh-whatever; the Debian folks include it, I found it,
and started singing their praises...
The *neatest* thing I've done with zsh "magical globbing completion"
is to use it to query/complete MH mailbox names. Not having to spell
out (or remember) all the folder names makes MH quite incredibly
usable at the CLI.
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: UDMA-Generic patch
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Apr 1999 19:25:27 -0500
On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 23:02:41 +0000, Mladen Gavrilovic wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Does anyone know where I can get the UDMA-Generic patch?
>The UDMA howto lists it as being at
>http://www.altern.org/andrebalsa/linux/ but apparently
>that site was shut down by the french government or something
>over freedom of speech issues. Anyone know where I can
>get the patch?
>
Hi, Mladen,
I am not sure about `UDMA-Generic'; some UDMA patches are
available from http://www.dyer.vanderbilt.edu/server/udma/
Best,
Andrew
PS. Actually, newer kernels already support UDMA; in "Block devices"
section (kernel 2.2.5), I specified
[*] Generic PCI IDE chipset support
and then
[*] Generic PCI bus-master DMA support
[ ] Boot off-board chipsets first support
[*] Use DMA by default when available
I thought in patches it used to be "on-board chipset DMA support" or
something; now it is "PCI DMA". Anyways, this enables DMA
mode for my Quantum Fireball EX 6.4GB drive:
# hdparm -dt /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
using_dma = 1 (on)
Timing buffered disk reads: 32 MB in 2.55 seconds =12.55 MB/sec
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Crabtree)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform"
Date: 4 Apr 1999 00:40:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christopher B. Browne allegedly wrote:
>On 3 Apr 1999 21:16:08 GMT, Jeremy Crabtree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>>Christopher B. Browne allegedly wrote:
>>>The following little script is what I reference with EDITOR and
>>>VISUAL; it checks to see if XEmacs or GNU Emacs are running, and
>>>latches onto them if possible. Alternatively, it runs "jed."
>>
>>Why not just use an editor that works in both places?
>>(like GNU emacs, or wpe)
>
>a) If I've not already got an Emacs running, I'd rather not spawn one
>just to edit a news message or some such thing.
Ahh...you WIMP! ;)
(EMACS (GNU variety) does take a LOOONG time to load)
>b) Low cost, low cholesterol, more functionality...
Yeah...still, you might look at wpe some time, it's a
complete IDE for just about any language/compiler you
want to plug into it, and it works well for plain text
too.
[SNIP]
>
>If DISPLAY is set appropriately, it can get at Netscape from
>anywhere...
Okay...I was really hoping for a way to past from, say,
tty1 (an actual console, not an XTerm) to someplace in
X.
>>(I use X and multiple text consoles a lot, so being able to send
>> stuff from a console to X would be incredibly useful)
>
>Rumor has it that there's some sort of regex matcher for RXVT that can
>allow the gentle user to "somehow click" on a URL on screen, have RXVT
>"macro" determine what portion is URL, and then do something like my
>script above...
>
>I've never beena ble to figure it out.
Again, I was hoping for something that would work on a regular
console, and paste into X...a pipe dream, I know, but still...
[SNIP, starting chimera and such...]
>>>Not rocket science.
>>
>>No...but it still seems to go againt the KISS principle.
>
>I disagree. It adds substantial power with a few simple lines of
>code. It may appear less-than-approachable to the "completely
>computer naive," but it's certainly not nasty complex stuff.
I'll concede and just agree here.
[SNIP, about ZSH...my Slack install doesn't have ZSH :(...must've missed
it]
--
"Being myself a remarkably stupid fellow, I have had to unteach myself
the difficulties, and now beg to present to my fellow fools the parts
that are not hard" --Silvanus P. Thompson, from "Calculus Made Easy."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (IBMackey)
Subject: Dosemu problem with Windows 95
Date: 3 Apr 1999 04:45:50 GMT
Reply-To: IBMackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Am running debian 2.0 system with dosemu 98.5. Modified ms-dos.sys for
Bootgui=0 and ran setup-hdimage. When I run dos, I get:
***********************
Linux DOS emulator 0.98.5.0 $Date: 99/01/15 $
Last configured at Sun Feb 28 15:48:12 EST 1999 on linux
This is work in progress.
Please test against a recent version before reporting bugs and problems.
Bugs, Patches & New Code to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Starting Windows 95...
[Host File System] drive D: is directory /
[dosemu EMS 4.0 driver installed]
The following file is missing or corrupted: C:\WIN95\IFSHLP.SYS
The following file is missing or corrupted: COMMAND.COM
Type the name of the Command Interpreter (e.g., C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM)
C>
************************
No commands will work at the prompt. I have to go to another partition
and use Kill to quit the program. Any ideas?
i.b.
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From: Gerard Motola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Proprietary Linux -- End Of Open Source Software!
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 00:51:29 +0000
"Mark S. Bilk" wrote:
>
> <LI><a href="http://www.salonmagazine.com/21st/feature/1999/04/01feature.html">Salon
>21st | Money talks -- open source walks</a>
>
> Money talks -- Open source walks
> Plans for new LinuxSoft venture map
> new business model for "free" software.
>
> SALON STAFF REPORT | In a move sure to send shock waves through the
> free software/open-source community, Linus Torvalds, creator of the
> Linux operating system, announced today that he is founding LinuxSoft,
> a new company that will specialize in selling "enhanced" proprietary
> versions of Linux.
>
> LinuxSoft will be a joint venture between leading Linux vendors Red
> Hat, VA Research and LinuxCare. Torvalds announced it has already
> obtained venture capital funding from Silicon Valley's premier VC
> firm, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers.
>
> "The free software model has served its purpose," said the Finnish
> coder, considered by many geeks to be the greatest programmer in the
> world, "but now I've got to think about putting my daughters through
> college."
>
> LinuxSoft, according to Torvalds, will experiment with a variety of
> business models -- including an innovative advertiser-supported
> approach, in which sponsors will pay to insert their messages directly
> into the program code. "We know that that's where they'll get the
> maximum eyeballs and best bang for their buck," he said.
>
> LinuxSoft expects to file for an IPO within 36 hours, Torvalds added.
>
> Torvalds' announcement was followed by a rash of similar breakthrough
> developments in the open-source world, prompting one longtime observer
> to say via e-mail "the dam has broken -- the open sourcers have
> finally realized that TANSTAAFL: There ain't no such thing as a free
> lunch."
>
> Eric Raymond, the oft-quoted hacker advocate and open-source
> propagandist, released a paper on his personal Web site titled "The
> Cathedral, the Bazaar and the Bottom Line." Raymond said that he was
> launching a new venture called "Open Bourse" -- an online marketplace
> in which free-software programmers could auction off their code to the
> highest bidder. "Open Bourse" is a joint venture with eBay.
>
> Slashdot, the popular "news for nerds" Web site that has served as a
> focal point for open-source devotees, unveiled a redesigned and
> renamed site, Slashdot Investor. Beginning immediately, Slashdot
> Investor will only be available to site visitors who have purchased
> subscriptions. Premium content will include a "Stock Tip of the Day"
> from journalist Jon Katz -- a 6,500-word essay on a particular
> company's cultural context, along with a buy/sell recommendation.
>
> Brian Behlendorf of the Apache Project issued a press release
> detailing a new plan to levy a micropayment tax on every Web page
> delivered by the widely deployed Apache Web server. "This great
> software has been doing its job on millions of computers without ever
> asking for anything in return," Behlendorf said. "The free ride is
> over -- it's time to pay the piper."
>
> In Redmond, Microsoft announced that Free Software Foundation founder
> Richard Stallman had accepted the new position of Senior Vice
> President for Ideology.
>
> Initial reaction to the news was mild, to the dismay of trolling
> journalists. A brief flame war broke out on comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> where a few die-hard open-source devotees tangled with the movement's
> leaders. But complaints like "Have our whole community's ideals gone
> to /dev/null?" were quickly met with responses like "Get real, pal."
>
> Some posters on Usenet suggested that the news was an instance of
> "Microsoft FUD": "There has not been such a massive disinformation
> campaign since the days of Cointelpro." A few even claimed that the
> moves were an obvious April Fools' prank, but Torvalds himself posted
> a strong denial: "We are still intent on world domination. But now we
> plan to rake in some dough, too."
> SALON | April 1, 1999
That couldn't happen because Linux is GPLed...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick J. Dickey)
Subject: Linux Netscape and helper apps
Date: 3 Apr 1999 23:46:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recently upgraded from a version 3.x Netscape to Netscape 4.08
using the RPMs that I got from RedHat. One problem that I encountered
was that certain helper apps no longer work, for example, Adobe
acroread. After a bit of screwing around, I found a work around that
seems to work for me in the case of acroread. The problem seems
to stem from the fact that Netscape sets an environment variable
called "LD_PRELOAD". Acroread does not like this variable. I have
no idea why not. What I did was write a wrapper for acroread that
unsets this variable prior to launching acroread. It is quite simple:
===========================================================
#! /bin/sh
unset LD_PRELOAD
/usr/local/Acrobat4/bin/acroread $*
===========================================================
Note that the above reflects the setup on my box.
I am posting this in the hope that it will help others with this
or similar problems.
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From: Eric Bohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: emacs launches internet connection
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 00:42:14 GMT
Why is it that emacs launches my internet connection whenever I start it?
It's just a text editor right? Is there any way to keep it from doing this?
Does anyone else have a recommendation for a console and/or X based text
editor thats easy to use (I consider vi to be too complicated).
Thanks,
- Eric
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From: Benjamin HERZOG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: telnet as mailer
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 03:05:18 +0200
Hello ,
i want to use telnet as a mailbox, but i didn't find the usefull
commands anywhere.
i know tha first (user, pass, retr <-- that's all !)
Can you tell me the most important commands :
-how to send a mail ?
-how to download a mail ?
And, where can i find a FAQ with all commands ?
Thank you for helping.
Benjamin HERZOG
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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:06:55 -0600
From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help ! How do I mount audio cdroms ?
You can not mount audio cdroms as ther is no file system. just insert
the cd and run the cd player.
Walter Strong wrote:
>
> Eightfold� ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I'm running the KDE desktop. There is a "CD Player" . I've read
> : the docs and "HOW-TOs" and can't find anything about mounting and
> : playing audio cdroms.....
>
> : thanks for the help
> : *****Microsoft Windows.... a VIRUS with mouse support*****
>
> There's got to be a an elegant way to do this, but what I do is
> umount and eject any nonaudio cd and drop in the music cd. Don't
> try and mount unless there's something in your fstab about mounting
> audio cds (I suppose this is what you really want). Just launch
> your cd player and everything should be fine. Might want to
> chmod 666 /dev/cdrom (as root) to enable non-root access to cdrom.
> This all works with Workman.
>
> ws
> -----------
> My computer is faster than your computer because I use flwm.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Johnston)
Subject: Re: slide-maker for linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:10:22 GMT
In article <7dmkmj$12o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there an presentation-maker application similar to power-point for linux?
>Thanks for any help.
http://www.vectaport.com/ivtools/flipbook.html, but I wouldn't call it
similar to PowerPoint. You're on your own when it comes to the
template stuff.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: emacs launches internet connection
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 01:26:15 GMT
Eric Bohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sun, 04 Apr 1999 00:42:14 GMT, wrote :
EB>
EB> Why is it that emacs launches my internet connection whenever I start it?
EB> It's just a text editor right? Is there any way to keep it from doing this?
EB> Does anyone else have a recommendation for a console and/or X based text
EB> editor thats easy to use (I consider vi to be too complicated).
Try MicroEmacs 3.10. Works quite well, but much faster and smaller that
GnuEmacs. Not as powerful or as easily extendible, but if all you need
is a plain keyboard-based mode-less editor, it is hard to beat.
(By 'mode-less' I mean it is NOT like vi with its INSERT mode. It does have
'modes' similar to GnuEmacs, just not as many or as elaborate -- a simple CMode
(paren/brace balancing, indentation), a word wrap mode, a 'view' mode (read-only
buffer), exact mode (exact vs. case insensitive search and replace), are the
main ones.)
EB>
EB> Thanks,
EB>
EB> - Eric
EB>
EB> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
EB> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
EB>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: SCSI Controller Probe Order???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 05:00:05 GMT
Jerry Gardner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: Anyone know how to control the SCSI controller probe order in the
: 2.2.x kernels?
:
: I have a system with two SCSI controllers, an Adaptec 2940UW and an
: Adaptec 1542B. Unfortunately, the kernel probes the 1542B first and
: assigns the ZIP drive attached to it as sda. I want the 2940UW probed
: first so that the system's boot drive is assigned to sda.
Hmm, I just noticed that you're referring to the 2.2 kernels. I'm not sure
that the suggestion that I made (change the controller order in hosts.c) works
for that version.
See the unmaintained SCSI HowTo.
Stu
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From: "Byron MIller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New linux portal & helpsite
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:34:22 -0500
http://www.smallproductions.com is now online. You can choose your news and
we offer full linux helpdesk/support via email. we are expanding out content
and look forward to hearing from you.
--
Byron Miller
http://www.smallproductions.com
Your source for *free* Unix Support & Online Portal
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