Linux-Misc Digest #408, Volume #18 Wed, 30 Dec 98 13:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problem with Netscape ("Jason Powell")
Re: USB in Linux? (Arthur Chiu)
Re: help me choose license (Bob Deep)
Re: Infringement of the GPL (Victor Danilchenko)
Re: dictionary & dux (non empty) (Gary Momarison)
2-1.132 and 2-2.0 pre1 ("William T. Trotter")
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Marco Anglesio)
Re: Unable to Browse Internet with Netscape (Ed Young)
Re: How to use a scanner with RedHat 5.1? (Steve Dunham)
Re: Infringement of the GPL (Kenneth Crudup)
Problem with Netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: gcc vs egcs (Jost Boekemeier)
Re: Are there any Ljet non-gs drivers? (Peter Granroth)
Re: Partition trouble (Ed Young)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Martin Skj�ldebrand)
Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released? (Phil Hunt)
Re: Netscape 4.5 problem (Destrius)
Re: Infringement of the GPL (Destrius)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:21:51 GMT
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> find /usr/linux -type f -print | xargs fgrep net-pf-17
> gave *nothing*. where does the `net-pf-' string live? is it a
As the arguments to a request_module() call
Someone posted a definitive everything-included conf.modules to the
kernel list a while back.
In this case:
$ egrep net-pf /usr/src/linux/net/*.c
/usr/src/linux/net/socket.c: sprintf(module_name,"net-pf-%d",family);
You can see the address families AF_* in
/usr/include/linux/socket.h
HTH,
Jason.
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From: "Jason Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problem with Netscape
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:42:05 -0500
>eg at POP server, say, I type mail.xxxx.yyy.gg
>where xxxx yyy gg are my ISP required names.
>Netscape pops up a window and says this server is UNKNOWN?
>Anyone have an idea?
Ping the mail servers name see what numbers you get back and use those.
That's what works for me.
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From: Arthur Chiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB in Linux?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:45:35 +0800
Work in progress, visit http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/usb/usb.pl
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From: Bob Deep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: help me choose license
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:13:08 -0600
steve mcadams wrote:
>
> I've been participating in a couple of threads about the GPL and Open
> Source and have discovered some things. The most important thing I've
> discovered is that I need some help in deciding how to license the
> software "product" that I'm currently developing.
>
> What the "product" is and why I'm writing it: It's a cross-system
> library that specifically targets MS-Windows and Linux. It is
> intended to provide a platform upon which applications can be written
> that need only be recompiled to run on any supported platform. It is
> a C++ library and uses object orientation heavily. The reason I'm
> writing it is that there are other, more important "products" that I
> want to write but I can't write them at the moment because I don't
> have this library to work with. It will provide a completely
> consistent user interface between systems; that is, the GUI will look
> the same and act the same, as will keystrokes.
My advice is that you should try the Java Virtual Machine for this
purpose. It is cross platform on more than the platforms you mention
and is already developed, maintained, and supported. You don't have to
necessaraly have to run byte code from Java source code, I hear there
are other "languages" that can be compiled into byte code. Java is all
but free except that the source is not available and Sun keeps tight
control of the specification. Your programs would not require the
"recompile" stage either... They would run on all platforms just the
same.
There is also PerlTK, and TCL/TK that provide a GUI interface through
code that is cross platform (for the most part) and easy to port if you
are careful. They are open source and quite good too.
Consider the options... Open Source (Give the source code away) and
either control any further development through copyright restrictions,
or Closed Source, licensed use.
The choice is yours.
-= bob =-
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:48:58 -0500
From: Victor Danilchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Kenneth Crudup wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:
>
> >What could be worse to a musician/composer than to lose one's hearing?
> >Yet, Beethoven was completely deaf when he composed the 9th & never
> >heard it performed. But, he didn't have to. It was something he
> >created out of the need to create.
>
> You *are* aware that many composers had rich benefactors,
Exactly. Many composers were supported by rich benefactors for various
reasons -- they were being paid while they were doing the creative
stuff. A lot like the current situation with OpenSource...
> and performed their works for money?
And OpenSource authors write books and consult for money. So?.. In
either case, you are free to listen to someone else's rendition of
Mozart's 25th symphony, or to buy a book written by some guy who did not
write the software.
The point is that the classic composers did not charge anyone for the
ideas themselves -- for the note sequence.
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dictionary & dux (non empty)
Date: 29 Dec 1998 23:29:10 -0800
Philippe Esperet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> %--------------------
> linux18.tex Mon 28 December 1998 11:26:22
> comp.os.linux.misc
>
> Please apologize for the previous empty message.
>
> I would like to purchase an English(/American) dictionary for my
> linux box. I have downloaded the demo version at
> http://www.dux.com/ahdictux.html, but neither [EMAIL PROTECTED] nor
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] answers my emails.
>
> Has somebody get answers from dux ? Are there alternatives to dux
> products ?
>
> Please remove all the ``a'' in may email address, and change the final
> rf with fr (vive la France...).
I apologize.
What luck. A few hours ago, I stumbled across what you're asking for.
It's called WordNet. Search for it in the jargon page of Gary's Encyclopedia
where you might find some others. I'm fairly sure there ARE more.
I have vague recall of something at Sunsite. Try one of the archive
searchers listed in the second link below.
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/jargon.html
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/software.html
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From: "William T. Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2-1.132 and 2-2.0 pre1
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:18:02 GMT
Are these kernels fundamentally different
or is the new 2-2.0 pre 1 just the latest
tweak in the the developmental series?
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From: Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:26:54 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 08:26:54 PDT
In comp.os.linux.misc Martin Skj?ldebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>There is nothing that requires you to use glint. Use rpm at the command
>>prompt instead - or xrpm if you *must* have a GUI.
> Of course I could use the command prompt instead. But what if I like
> GUIs and I don't like xrpm either =)?
> And why cant package managers handle tarballs as well as rpms? Eh?
No reason why one can't. Feel free to write one. It's one of the great
priviledges of using free software: rolling your own applications.
marco
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mpa at the-wire dot com in Astounding Science comics
http://www.the-wire.com/~mpa (The Manchurian Candidate)
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to Browse Internet with Netscape
Date: 30 Dec 1998 14:42:27 GMT
What happens when you try to ping a URL, example:
==============================================================
$ ping www.linux.org
PING www.linux.org (198.182.196.55): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 198.182.196.55: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=289.1 ms
64 bytes from 198.182.196.55: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=250.6 ms
64 bytes from 198.182.196.55: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=230.5 ms
64 bytes from 198.182.196.55: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=230.5 ms
^C
--- www.linux.org ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 230.5/250.1/289.1 ms
==============================================================
The above is what should happen. This will help you sort out
whether the problem is in your network setup, or your netscape
setup.
I am using Netscape 4.08 on RedHat 5.2 to write this, so it does
work. Hope this helps...
Patrick D Phillips wrote:
>
> I am having some trouble trying to get my internet connection working. I
> have been able to connect to my ISP O.K. and I get allocated a TCP address
> but I am unable to use Netscape to do any browsing. I type in an URL and it
> does nothing until timing out. I have looked in the message logs and I see a
> regular message ?No link beat on the MII interface, status then 7809 now
> 7809.? I am using Red Hat 5.2 and Netscape 4.07 and I have checked that the
> DNS is correct. My ISP does not use a proxy and they are unable to support
> Linux. As I am new to Linux any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Patrick
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to use a scanner with RedHat 5.1?
Date: 30 Dec 1998 12:02:31 -0500
Vesa Keto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a Mustek Scanexpress 12000P -scanner which works fine under
> windows95, but is there any software/drivers available to access and use
> the scanner under RedHat 5.1? It really is frustrating to reboot only
> for scanning.
> The scanner uses parallel-port.
Try:
http://www.mostang.com/sane/
(There should be some RPMs for SANE somewhere on the net.)
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: 30 Dec 1998 09:39:04 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:
>What could be worse to a musician/composer than to lose one's hearing?
>Yet, Beethoven was completely deaf when he composed the 9th & never
>heard it performed. But, he didn't have to. It was something he
>created out of the need to create.
You *are* aware that many composers had rich benefactors, and performed their
works for money?
-Kenny
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Problem with Netscape
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:43:01 +0800
ARGH! I corrected all other problems now...but
When I try to modify the preferences in Netscape
eg at POP server, say, I type mail.xxxx.yyy.gg
where xxxx yyy gg are my ISP required names.
Netscape pops up a window and says this server is UNKNOWN?
Anyone have an idea?
regards
beh
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From: Jost Boekemeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc vs egcs
Date: 30 Dec 1998 18:03:11 +0100
> Is there any difference in compatibility between things
> compiled with one vs other?
I don't know why slackware installs egcs in favour of gcc. I 've installed
the latest slackware on one of my machines and the compiler was not able
to compile the guile distribution.
Btw, slackware is still a awful distribution: wrong permissions for
/dev/cdrom, circular symbolic links, a broken "live" file system on cd
etc. But it is still my favorite one. :)
Jost
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From: Peter Granroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are there any Ljet non-gs drivers?
Date: 30 Dec 1998 15:48:41 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn) writes:
> On 28 Dec 1998 17:33:26 GMT, Tim Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Just wondering if anyone has written any real Laserjet drivers for
> >Linux. I mean ones that don't convert to Postscript first, but use
> >HP PCL directly to the printer.
> >
> If there is any Unix software that outputs something besides Postscript
> (besides plain text), it must be a very few applications.
At least for LaTeX/TeX, there is a utility, 'dvilj', for converting the
.dvi output file to PCL. I have used it succesfully with my HP LJ6L
and it speeds up printing considerably, comparing to the
dvips --> ghostscript route.
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition trouble
Date: 30 Dec 1998 14:53:12 GMT
I have found that you should use the fdisk provided
by the operating system to maintain the partitions
for that operating system. So if you want to delete
a partition that was created by a Linux install then
you should use Linux fdisk to delete it. Likewise
don't use DOS FDISK to create new partitions for
Linux to be installed in.
That said, you might try booting Linux on a diskette
and use fdisk provided there to delete your old
Linux partitions. Check out:
http://www.toms.net/rb/
Arthur Dent wrote:
>
> Ok i�m a totally blind Newbie towards Linux,
> but i have serious trouble (don�t laugh) with
> deinstalling my old Distribution of Debian from
> a Partition in the Extended Dos Partition.
>
> I bought a new Harddrive for Linux and now want to
> use the old one for Windows only. But this shitty
> Fdisk cannot delete a logical drive that is not in
> Dos format. And when i run Linux YAST wont delete
> the current partition from where Linux was started.
> So what shall i do to get rid of Linux !?
>
> PLEASE HELP !!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Skj�ldebrand)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:15:59 GMT
Jason Clifford and Marco Anglesio wrote something like:
>On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Martin Skj�ldebrand wrote:
>
>> The operative word here is "usually". Some are only distributed as
>> tarballs.
><snip>
>> Of course I could use the command prompt instead. But what if I like
>> GUIs and I don't like xrpm either =)?
>> And why cant package managers handle tarballs as well as rpms? Eh?
>
>Stop whining about it and write a package manager that will handle
>tarballs and rpm and deb if it annoys you that much.
I'm not whining, I'm complaining - and, yes I will.
M.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Hunt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 98 16:55:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "David Steuber" writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Filip M. Gieszczykiewicz) writes:
> > (what scares the crap out of me is the Navy moving their fleet from
> > [stable] unix systems to NT... [shivvvvvver])
>
> You can't expect a smart fleet without a digital nervous disorder...
Perhaps someone will decide to put NT inside an aircraft control system.
(I know, but if they can do it for ships, they can do it for planes).
Imagine a Lockheed Galaxy flying over Seattle, the BSOD, and the plane
crashing on the HQ of a well-known company...
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@@ [*] Disclaimer: this is FREE ADVICE, and is distributed in the @@
@@ hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; note also @@
@@ that this advice may not apply if your name is Gates or Ballmer. @@
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Destrius)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.5 problem
Date: 30 Dec 1998 13:10:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...and it was written on the heavens that on 28 Dec 1998 20:22:23 GMT,
the entity named John Edstrom ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
inscribed the following words in comp.os.linux.misc:
-clip-
>My pet weirdness is that Netscape Communicator dies when I click on a
>mailto anchor.
You need to configure the Mail & News part of the preferences fully. The
mail composer message kills Netscape when it can't find all the information
it needs to post mail. But you don't need to set up for receiving mail,
IIRC.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Destrius)
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: 30 Dec 1998 13:10:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...and it was written on the heavens that on Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:01:23 GMT,
the entity named steve mcadams ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
inscribed the following words in comp.os.linux.misc:
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>That's a legitimate way to see it I suppose. Though it doesn't make
>me feel good to work an extra 50 hours a week and then give the
>results away, it may ring some peoples' chimes. -steve
-clip-
Don't forget that most GPL software starts out because the original
programmers had a need of such programs, so they worked an extra 50 hours a
week to produce something they wanted to use, and at the same time let
other people use it for free.
Not that many people are willing to code a program they don't need but
someone else does for nothing at all. That's one way of making money:
advertise as a programmer and recieve cash from J. Random User for
designing a four-dimensional spreadsheet or something. :)
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