Linux-Misc Digest #161, Volume #19 Wed, 24 Feb 99 06:13:11 EST
Contents:
PCI128 Soundcard setup ("Jakob Eide Seim")
Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support) (Jason Clifford)
Re: More bad news for NT (David Martin)
Re: Redhat 5.2 install mysteries (Gregory Greenman)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Alexander Viro)
Memory exhausted ? (Y W Wong)
ANNOUNCE: DosLinux - small linux distribution (Kent Robotti)
Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ????
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (Pankil Richards)
Re: boot my existing linux from hda3 (Ulf Bohman)
Re: Telnet and rlogin as root (Gert Wollny)
Re: Cannot get to LILO boot: anymore (Dean Plude)
Joystick under dosemu (G�rard Milmeister)
Re: IDE RAID controllers for Linux (bill davidsen)
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From: "Jakob Eide Seim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCI128 Soundcard setup
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 02:30:53 -0600
Hi I'm a newbie to Linux and I'm trying to set up my PCI128 soundcard under
linux.. And I have some problems... The only way I can get it to work is by
using OSS but then you need a license file and I don't have that.. can
anyone help me out with this???
I appreciate any help..
Thanks
Jakob
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:00:51 +0000
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Christopher Browne wrote:
> When you consider that RHS has to cover various costs for boxes, CD
> burning, and printing, and then, in order for other vendors to make
> something on a $30 sale, probably sell the "boxed set" to them for more
> like $15, this leaves very little money left over to actually provide
> service.
>
> I don't think it's far off the mark to consider that the amount of
> "service" that you're buying on that $30 box is going to represent about
> $5.
>
> How much service can you realistically expect to get for $5?
That Red Hat choose to offer a level of support without adequately funding
it from sales is their problem. If they really can't afford to provide the
support at the prices they charge, they should either up the prices or
drop the support.
By offering the support as part of the sale they enter into a contract to
provide it.
Companies who do not actually provide the support that they claim to offer
actually cause a lot of problems further down the supply chain.
We have on several occassions had to accept returns of non-faulty Linux
distributions (not Red Hat) because the user could not obtain the support
that was advertised as part of the deal. In the UK that is a breach of
contract.
As a result of these occassions I am seriously having to consider whether
selling Linux software from such companies is worthwhile.
Red Hat, SuSE, Caldera and others should take note of this. They could
well lose their reseller channels if they don't provide the support as
promised. I, and other Linux resellers, cannot afford to accept the costs
of providing such support when we don't make money off of the sales.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Martin)
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: 24 Feb 1999 10:04:10 GMT
In article <eoF#ZX9X#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I thought this was about NT, not Windows 98?
> NT's performance is excellent. Given the overhead of running a
> complex user interface, and the overhead of COM, there are
> circumstances in which it is outrun by its slimmer rivals. Why
> should this surprise anybody? NT has its place just as Linux does.
> Would you put your end-users on Linux?
We are considering doing that in out institute for several reasons.
1. lower maintenance costs
2. lower program costs
3. lower machine costs (most people curse Win 95 for being slow, let alone
Win 98). The average machine is a 486/low end pentium.
4. More stability/security.
5. Ability to run remote apps without having to get an X emulator.
The only drawbacks are trying to replace all the productivity apps that
people use but hopefully WP 2000 will do that.
..d
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From: Gregory Greenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Redhat 5.2 install mysteries
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:10:03 -0800
Michael Born wrote:
> I am trying to install RedHat 5.2 with a Digiboard and using the
> iBCS module for my application. What I've done so far is to
> install Linux (including the kernel-ibcs package). Then I make
> config to get rid of the "junk" I don't need and because the digi
> driver requires a .config file to exist when I install it. I
> finish the install (make dep, clean, zImage, modules etc. etc.),
> add the kernel to lilo and reboot. I then install the digi driver
> (which adds a line to .config). and the repeat the building
> process. When I do this, the digi works fine, but when I try to
> insmod iBCS, it tells me that the module doesn't exist.
>
> I noticed that the original application puts the modules in
> /lib/modules/2.0.36-0.7 and my make modules appears to put them
> in /lib/modules/2.0.36 (as a releated question, what's the deal
> here?). In the 2.0.36 directory there is no iBCS file. I
> attempted to copy the file from 2.0.36-0.7, but insmod then gives
> me a unresolved symbol error (sorry I don't have the specific
> message but I'm not at the site where the machine is today).
>
> Can anyone help this Linux newbie?
>
> TIA
> Mike
> TIA
> Mike
Mike,
It's not just newbies that get caught on this one. I've been
running Slackware for about 5 years, and decided to try out
Red Hat 5.2.
I also customized the kernel - did "make xconfig", "make dep",
"make clean", and "make boot", followed by "make modules"
and "make modules_install", and moved the new kernel to /boot.
Again there was no iBCS file in the modules directory and
when I copied the one for the 2.0.36-0.7 directory, insmod
complained of an unresolved reference to "???sync??" ( I
forget the exact reference-but had "sync" in it).
I'm almost ready to go back to Slackware - I shouldn't have
unresolved references when recompiling a kernel.
Does the "make modules" get everything that was specified
as a module in "make xconfig"?
Dr. Gregory Greenman
Physicist
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 24 Feb 1999 04:48:59 -0500
In article <7b0bff$5bn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The downside is as big as the upside, unfortunately. The Linux kernel
> has a long ways to go before it catches up to the scaleability of FreeBSD.
> That isn't to say that it's bad in any way, just that it does not have
> enough of a history to work out all the problems and is making many of
> the same mistakes that were fixed in BSD 15 years ago.
>
> Occassionally a FreeBSD developer will come up with an idea that turns
> out to be ( using John's favorite word ), a 'regression' -- that is,
> a repeat of a mistake that had been solved years before. But FreeBSD
> has its CVS tree and CVS logs going back years and such mistakes are
> typically caught pretty quickly when the code is reviewed. This is
> the history that Linux is missing.
>
> The scaleability in FreeBSD comes at a cost, though, and the Linux
> developers have to be willing to take on that cost in order to make
> significant progress. Scaleability entails a certain amount of
> complexity. Complexity is the number one complaint from developers
> ( Linux and BSD alike ) about the FreeBSD kernel. I hate the complexity
> as much as the next guy which is why I've been concentrating on removing
> the cruft from the FreeBSD kernel the last couple of months.
>
> But at least half the complexity in there is necessary. I can give a
> couple of examples of 'necessary complexity'.
>
> * Using a hash table instead of a linear list
Matt, look into FreeBSD garbage collector for AF_UNIX sockets and
watch the (ab)use of list of open files (marking phase). (And yes, Linux
has similar suckitude in tty code - also scans the whole damned list).
> * Maintaining VFS objects and VM pages on multiple doubly linked lists
> to reflect state, such as whether an object is clean or dirty.
See fsync-related threads on l-k.
[snip VM-related issues - I'm not a VM hacker]
> * Issues with VFS layer locking, cache coherency, and VM/VFS
> interaction.
Aaaaarrrrgghhh.... Frankly, Linux VFS is not the cleanest thing right
now, but at least it doesn't put locking down into the individual filesystems.
And I hope that we'll have namespace-related locking separated from the
data-related one in 2.3 (i.e. namespace stuff goes into dcache layer and the
rest remains in icache - Linux VFS structure is big win here). There is another
scalability issue - by number of filesystems. And I'm afraid that here *BSD
loses - you never had to deal with that shitload of weirdness. VFS/filesystems
separation in Linux is not ideal, but it's *much* better than Heidemann's and
better that FreeBSD one (3.x - I didn't look into 4.0-current).
> I could go on.
>
> I am certainly not suggesting that Linux developers transplant code
> wholesale ( except possibly kern/subr_blist.c ), but I am suggesting
> that Linux developers can avoid a whole slew of problems by reading
> the FreeBSD code and doing their own from-scratch implementation right
> the first time rather then having to iterate through years of
> scaleability and other problems. Even just the CVS logs would be highly
> beneficial.
D'oh. What makes you think that we do not use it? Wrt VFS I'm
seriously against using *BSD as model - some things are definitely worth
copying (something resembling nameidata for lookups, for one), but the
whole vnode concept mixes several unrelated things and doesn't do it well.
Namespace-related stuff shouldn't be mixed with inode manipulations - you
can avoid a *lot* of races that way. Moreover, Heidemann's design assumes
that filesystems are relatively clever and puts lots of fs-independent
consistency checks/race prevention into them. *Bad* idea, if you have a
lot of that stuff in your tree + 3rd-party modules.
BTW, could you look at the potential race between rename("/b/b","a")
and rename("/a/a","b") with pwd of the first process being /a/a/a/a/a and
pwd of the second one - /b/b/b/b/b? Lookups do not come anywhere near each
other and VFS doesn't check for such situations (each of renames is legal,
but together they create a loop and detach it from root). I'm not sure that
all filesystems in FreeBSD tree handle it right.
Putting such stuff into filesystems is badly broken idea, IMO.
Indeed, looking into logs/archives/whatever is *very* useful. Lots
of bugs are reproduced independently by nearly everybody and cutting down
on that stuff would be very nice. Can't speak for anybody else, but I *am*
looking through the *BSD CVS repositories.
> I would also, *strongly* recommend that at least the Linux kernel be
> put under CVS. FreeBSD has hundreds of megabytes of source under CVS.
> It isn't perfect, but it's a whole lot better then nothing and CVS has
> proven to be quite a good tool in helping organize and maintain a
> multi-person development project. Even if only Linus and Alan had
> commit privs it would make their jobs a whole lot easier, I think.
> Read-only access to the other developers would make *their* lives easier
> as well.
Look at BitKeeper - it seems that it may be used instead of CVS
basically for the same purpose. LMV said that he's going to finish it before
2.3, so...
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: Y W Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Memory exhausted ?
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:05:57 +0800
Anyone know that why "Memory exhausted" occuried ?
The detail as follow :-
[wong@gpus]$ top
5:52pm up 118 days, 39 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
50 processes: 45 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 4 stopped
CPU states: 0.1% user, 0.5% system, 0.0% nice, 99.4% idle
Mem: 63160K av, 57988K used, 5172K free, 33660K shrd, 27136K buff
Swap: 128484K av, 1300K used, 127184K free 18704K
cached
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME
COMMAND
29990 wong 12 0 720 720 552 R 0 0.5 1.1 0:00 top
29975 root 2 0 700 700 536 S 0 0.1 1.1 0:00
in.telnetd
1 root 0 0 320 300 260 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:02 init
2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00
kflushd
3 root -12 -12 0 0 0 SW< 0 0.0 0.0 0:00
kswapd
520 root 0 0 232 220 180 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:00
mingetty
399 root 0 0 240 236 188 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:00
mingetty
50 root 0 0 292 284 240 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00
kerneld
221 root 0 0 408 408 332 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:06
syslogd
230 root 0 0 312 312 224 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00 klogd
241 daemon 0 0 340 324 264 S 0 0.0 0.5 0:00 atd
252 root 0 0 420 408 336 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:00 crond
263 bin 0 0 252 248 184 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:00
portmap
274 root 0 0 668 660 344 S 0 0.0 1.0 0:00 snmpd
286 root 1 0 324 320 256 S 0 0.0 0.5 0:00 inetd
297 root 0 0 508 476 392 S 0 0.0 0.7 0:00 named
309 root 0 0 392 380 304 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:00
rpc.mountd
318 root 0 0 396 380 304 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:00
rpc.nfsd
342 root 0 0 248 240 200 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:00 gpm
353 root 0 0 2040 1720 1680 S 0 0.0 2.7 0:00 httpd
376 root 0 0 660 588 464 S 0 0.0 0.9 0:00 smbd
385 root 0 0 652 652 504 S 0 0.0 1.0 0:40 nmbd
29976 wong 1 0 940 940 580 S 0 0.0 1.4 0:00 login
29977 wong 9 0 976 976 700 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 csh
26240 nobody 0 0 2044 1724 1700 S 0 0.0 2.7 0:00 httpd
15117 root 0 0 1176 1148 968 S 0 0.0 1.8 0:00
xconsole
15119 root 0 0 912 820 700 S 0 0.0 1.2 0:00
xbanner
26241 nobody 0 0 2044 1724 1700 S 0 0.0 2.7 0:00 httpd
[wong@gpus]$ ps aux|more
USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
bin 263 0.0 0.3 776 248 ? S Oct 29 0:00 portmap
bssteam 16855 0.0 1.5 1716 948 a0 S Nov 13 0:00 -bin/csh
bssteam 16867 0.0 0.5 844 328 a0 T Nov 13 0:00 man screen
bssteam 16868 0.0 0.7 1152 456 a0 T Nov 13 0:00 sh -c (cd
/usr/man ;
bssteam 16869 0.0 0.7 1156 504 a0 T Nov 13 0:00 sh -c (cd
/usr/man ;
bssteam 16873 0.0 0.6 1068 428 a0 T Nov 13 0:00 /usr/bin/less
-is
daemon 241 0.0 0.5 796 324 ? S Oct 29 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
nobody 26240 0.0 2.7 3052 1724 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
nobody 26241 0.0 2.7 3052 1724 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
nobody 26242 0.0 2.6 3052 1672 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
nobody 26243 0.0 2.6 3052 1672 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
nobody 26244 0.0 2.6 3052 1672 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
nobody 26245 0.0 2.6 3052 1672 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
nobody 26246 0.0 2.6 3052 1672 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
nobody 26247 0.0 2.7 3052 1712 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
nobody 26248 0.0 2.7 3052 1724 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
nobody 26249 0.0 2.7 3052 1724 ? S Feb 21 0:00 httpd
root 1 0.0 0.4 780 300 ? S Oct 29 0:02 init [3]
root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Oct 29 0:00 (kflushd)
root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW< Oct 29 0:00 (kswapd)
root 50 0.0 0.4 752 284 ? S Oct 29 0:00 /sbin/kerneld
root 221 0.0 0.6 808 408 ? S Oct 29 0:06 syslogd
root 230 0.0 0.4 788 312 ? S Oct 29 0:00 klogd
root 252 0.0 0.6 864 408 ? S Oct 29 0:00 crond
root 274 0.0 1.0 1252 660 ? S Oct 29 0:00
/usr/sbin/snmpd -f
root 286 0.0 0.5 788 320 ? S Oct 29 0:00 inetd
root 297 0.0 0.7 996 476 ? S Oct 29 0:00 named
root 309 0.0 0.6 852 380 ? S Oct 29 0:00 rpc.mountd
root 318 0.0 0.6 888 380 ? S Oct 29 0:00 rpc.nfsd
root 342 0.0 0.3 760 240 ? S Oct 29 0:00 gpm -t ps/2
root 353 0.0 2.7 3052 1720 ? S Oct 29 0:00 httpd
root 376 0.0 0.9 1484 588 ? S Oct 29 0:00 smbd -D
root 385 0.0 1.0 1332 652 ? S Oct 29 0:40 nmbd -D
root 399 0.0 0.3 744 236 2 S Oct 29 0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty2
root 400 0.0 0.3 744 236 3 S Oct 29 0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty3
root 401 0.0 0.3 744 220 4 S Oct 29 0:00 (mingetty)
root 402 0.0 0.3 744 220 5 S Oct 29 0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty5
root 403 0.0 0.3 744 244 6 S Oct 29 0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty6
root 405 0.0 0.2 736 180 ? S Oct 29 0:05 update
(bdflush)
root 520 0.0 0.3 744 220 1 S Oct 29 0:00
/sbin/mingetty tty1
root 15108 0.0 1.3 2344 868 ? S Jan 12 0:00 xdm
root 15110 0.0 3.8 9464 2448 ? S Jan 12 0:00
/usr/X11R6/bin/X -aut
root 15111 0.0 1.7 2200 1136 ? S Jan 12 0:00 -:0
root 15117 0.0 1.8 2164 1148 ? S Jan 12 0:00
/usr/X11R6/bin/xconso
root 15119 0.0 1.2 1704 820 ? S Jan 12 0:00
/usr/X11R6/bin/xbanne
root 16854 0.0 1.3 1656 868 ? S Nov 13 0:00 SCREEN
root 29975 0.2 1.1 1240 700 ? S 17:52 0:00 in.telnetd
wong 29976 0.1 1.4 1500 940 p0 S 17:52 0:00 /bin/login -h
10.3.10
wong 29977 0.2 1.5 1652 980 p0 S 17:52 0:00 -csh
wong 29991 0.0 0.7 868 500 p0 R 17:52 0:00 ps aux
wong 29992 0.0 1.5 1648 976 p0 R 17:52 0:00 -csh
[wong@gpus]$ who
who: Memory exhausted
[wong@gpus]$ df
Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/sda1 4167968 818981 3133316 21% /
[wong@gpus]$ vmstat
procs memory swap io system cpu
r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id
0 0 0 1300 5260 27136 18712 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 3
[wong@gpus]$ who
who: Memory exhausted
[wong@gpus]$
Thank you for your advise.
Y W Wong
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From: Kent Robotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ANNOUNCE: DosLinux - small linux distribution
Date: 24 Feb 1999 10:37:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================================
DosLinux is a relatively small distribution of the linux operating
system.
DosLinux is a LOOP version of Linux and will use the standard linux
ext2 filesystem.
It can be installed on an existing dos system i.e. msdos, pcdos,
drdos, and win95/98 in dos mode.
There's no need to create a partition or repartition to install
doslinux, because it will just be a file i.e. C:\doslinux\system\-
doslinux.img on your existing dos system.
Read DosLinux.README for further info at the site below.
You'll need about 40 megabytes of free space on your dos system
to unpack doslinux.
DosLinux doesn't include X windows or the gcc compiler, but these
are easy to install on doslinux, just read /usr/doc/guides/
install.X.guide and gcc-doslinux after you install doslinux.
DosLinux has support for IDE, SCSI, & PS/2 hard drives, Ethernet cards,
IDE & SCSI cdrom drives, Tcp/ip networking i.e. SLIP/PPP, Floppy drives,
Serial & Non serial mice, Parallel printers, PNP, PCMCIA, Firewall & IP
Masquerading, Token Ring.
If you're not sure if DosLinux will boot on your system get 'setup.exe'
and 'zimage.exe', try to boot the small linux system if it boots then
get doslnx78.exe.
If you can't boot the small linux system there's no point getting
doslnx78.exe.
You need 'setup.exe' anyway to setup DosLinux, you don't have to get it
again any future versions of DosLinux will use the same 'setup.exe'.
Read HowTo.Install.DosLinux at the site below.
The DosLinux kernel is version: 2.2.1
DosLinux is a 100% libc6 system.
You need at least a 386 CPU and 8MB of RAM = Memory to use DosLinux.
========================================================================
Begin3
Title: DosLinux
Version: 78
Entered-date: 23FEB99
Description: A small linux libc6 system that can be droped into an
existing dos system, i.e. msdos, pcdos, drdos, etc.
& win95/98 in dos mode.
About 28 mbytes uncompressed, 13 mbytes compressed.
Contents: doslnx78.exe 9863Kb or 10100669b
setup.exe 1280Kb or 1311455b
zimage.exe 890Kb or 912131b <SCSI & IDE kernel>
modules directory.
packages directory.
Keywords: HowTo.Install.DosLinux & DosLinux.README
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kent Robotti)
Primary-site: http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html
ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/doslinux
Alternate-site:
Platforms: Dos/Win95/98
Copying-policy: GPL
End
=========================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ????
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:13:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mick Costa wrote:
>
>
>Sniper wrote:
And was sniped
>I use StarOffice for the most part (http://www.stardivision.com). It
>imports/exports most office documents, although I believe that it
>doesn't handle ALL Office features. For most mainstream uses, it does
>fine. You can also get Corel's WordPerfect for Linux (free for personal
>use, as is StarOffice). While I did download it, I haven't got around
>to using it since I've been happy with StarOffice (also StarOffice
>includes spreadsheet, presentation, etc., capabilities). I haven't
>tried Applixware at all, but have heard some good things about it.
>You'll have to get another e-mail client, since I don't think that
>Outlook runs on Linux (??). I use KDE and am pretty happy with the
>simple e-mail client. You could also use Netscape with its e-mail
>client if you wanted (there's lots of choices).
I must say that Word Perfect is my prefured word processor for Linux. I
still use Office 97 as most of the rest of the world use it but Word
perfect is nicer than star office, which is like M$'s offerings big and
bloaty. With a fair degree of feature creap. Infact its so similar I cant
belive they copied the user interface.
Owen
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From: Pankil Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:03:00 +0000
Chris Lee wrote:
> In article <7ammgb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> ...workstation Linux that I've seen. However, it's only ready to go if you
> log
> in as root! That's ridiculous.
No it's not. Win NT 4 Workstation works the same way too (as I'm sure any
other os worth anything).
With NT 4 WS, the default (and only) account created is Administrator--it has
access to everything. Similar to the root account in Unix/Linux, it's not
recommended one use the Administrator account for anything but, say,
administrative stuff! (Or atleast rename the Adminstrator account.) One has
to create the other user accounts manually.
> It should install with a user account or two already configured, and ready
> to run some basic apps.
How exactly would that work? Are you suggesting the installation create two
accounts, in addition to root, called something like John and Jane? Now
>>that's<< ridiculous...
> ...so that a Win/Mac user could instantly see what Linux/Unix is all about.
The best way to do that is with a do-it-yourself approach. Isn't that one of
the reasons you decided to try Linux in the first place?
--
Linux: Putting 'personal' back in the PC.
- Pankil Richards
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From: Ulf Bohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: boot my existing linux from hda3
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:00:34 +0100
You might want to try moving your Linux root partition to start before the 1024th
cylinder of the disk, reinstalling LILO to the root partition and then try booting
it thru SysCommander.
/Ulf
kuma wrote:
> hi,
> i currently have this problem. I have a 17 gb harddrive, i partitioned it to
> be four, one primary one extend, two for linux. When i was installing redhat
> linux, the system gave me an error when i tried to install lilo. So until
> now, i was always using my floppy to boot up. And now, my floppy drive is
> broke, i want to know how can I boot my linux? I've tried partition magic 4.0
> boot manager, system commander deluxe, all without luck. System commander
> even gave me a 'partition overlapped' error. I am wondering maybe i did
> something wrong at the beginning of partition. Can someone help me out?
>
> thanx
> Kuma
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From: Gert Wollny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Telnet and rlogin as root
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:52:47 +0000
Ronald Hovens wrote:
>
> I am not able to telnet or rlogin to my linux box: when I try to login
> as root I get erromessage Login incorrect.
> However, if I try a 'normal' user, it works!
>
> Is this normal/what can I do about it?
There is a file /etc/securegettys, here you would have to add the
terminals for in-telneting (AFAIK ttyp0,ttyp1,...), but you should not
do that for security reasons if your linux box is connected to the world
outside.
Log in as normal user and 'su' instead.
Bye
Gert
--
Max-Planck-Institute of Cognitive NeuroSience http://www.cns.mpg.de
http://gerti.home.pages.de
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From: Dean Plude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux,cino,is,ns-windows.nt
Subject: Re: Cannot get to LILO boot: anymore
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:54:25 -0500
Michelle Xu Zhao wrote:
> Hi, I installed a scanner software/drivers and rebooted
> and found that the computer hang at printing the 'LILO boot:'
> prompt. It will print 'LI' then hang forever.
>
> I used to have winnt on partition 1 and linux on partition 4
> and run them selectively via the 'LILO boot:' manager.
>
> Now the boot manager seemed damaged by the scanner installation.
>
> And I cannot boot either of the two OS since I cannot get to
> the prompt.
>
> The question is: How do I go fixing the boot manager and get
> back the prompt? (get over the hang)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Michelle
Boot from rescue and then type lilo But be warned you scanner software
had a virus on it
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G�rard Milmeister)
Subject: Joystick under dosemu
Date: 24 Feb 1999 10:52:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I set the ports in dosemu.conf to 0x200 0x201 etc.
but I can't get the joystick to work. I am using
dosemu 0.98.1.
--
G�rard Milmeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tannenrauchstrasse 35
8038 Z�rich
Switzerland
+41 1 481 52 48
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: IDE RAID controllers for Linux
Date: 22 Feb 1999 21:43:10 GMT
In article <76ruku$3et$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Most computers today come with two onboard IDE controllers. If you need to
| mirror lots of drives, you can install one DupliDisk RAID 1 controller on the
| Primary IDE and another on the Secondary IDE. Each DupliDisk can handle up
| to two pairs of mirrored drives--one pair on the Master Channel and another
| on the Slave channel. If you hook up your four existing 6.5 Gbyte drives to
| the DupliDisk on the Primary IDE, you can still add two more pairs of 6.5
| Gbyte drives to the DupliDisk on the Secondary IDE. Or, you could hook up
| one pair of really big drives to the second DupliDisk, using only the Master
| channel of the Secondary IDE for mirroring. This would leave the Slave
| channel free for a CD-ROM.
|
| Donna Barron
| http://www.arcoide.com
On a very related issue, before motherboards had IDE, we used to buy
ISA/EIDE/VESA IDE controllers. Now since Linux will support up to four
controllers, is there anyone still making controllers, obviously for
the PCI bus these days, which can be used to add the other two?
The Duplidisk gives the reliability protection of RAID-1, but lacks the
performance benefit, since with traditional RAID-1, if you get multiple
reads to a single drive you can read one off the mirror, while with a
single virtual IDE device you don't get that benefit.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be
changed regularly and for the same reason.
--Ted Symons(?)
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