Linux-Misc Digest #189, Volume #19 Fri, 26 Feb 99 10:13:18 EST
Contents:
Re: More bad news for NT (Rastus)
Re: Printing under Linux (jik-)
Re: Reverse IP-Masquerading (Steve Gage)
Re: Can someone recomend Intel computer with preinstalled Linux OS+ full accessories
(StringSpider)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (John S. Dyson)
Automatically determine irq etc of soundcard like oss does? (Rainer Krienke)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Richard Tobin)
Re: Linux to SCO User Equivalence (Warren Young)
installing AIM without root privileges (Neil Zanella)
Re: I'm baffled with these ... (Frank Hahn)
Re: Hard disk duplication?? (Michael Neverdosky)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Brett W. McCoy)
Printer problem with form feed ("Frank Stiller")
Re: Linux Wrappers for DOS programs (Kingsley G. Morse Jr.)
Creating PDF files under Linux (Leonard Evens)
Re: HOW TO INSTALL A SCSI ZIP ON REDHAT5.2 ?? (Leonard Evens)
Re: Creating PDF files under Linux (David M. Cook)
Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)) (Mike Willett
LADS LDN X7563)
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From: Rastus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:55:33 +1100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well said. I like Linux, i use it every day to study and to develop my
> programming skills, but I'm working every day with Inprise Delphi (wich is
> good money). Delphi is just beautifull (the ease to develop high quality
> business apps), but i can't say that to most linux-users i know. They prefer
> to use Gtk wich is good, but can't beat Delphi on application quality. I
> prefer not to discuss development time :-).
>
> Use Linux, use it well. If you are happy with it and your neighbour is happy
> with Windows, who the f*ck carez !!! Get a life ... or something like that.
> Life is more than this you know ...
It wont be long before top quality dev tools like Delphi will be ported to Linux.
I see a time when they wont be so platform or OS specific, and I dont need a
crystal ball to foresee what that means...
--
What will you have to debug today?
B. Lawson - lawsonb at hotkey dot net dot au
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Printing under Linux
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 03:41:41 -0800
Instead of converting your image to PostScript, and
> then having Ghostscript convert it to PCL (or whatever your printer
> wants), it converts the image to PCL directly.
When I said PDL, I meant PDL and not PCL....they letters are close on
the keyboard and alphabet, don't know if you thought I made a mistake or
not, but I didn't.
PDL stands for Page Description Language, which PCL is ONE of hundreds.
Only some printers use PCL, which is a more common standard PDL like
PS,...but not THAT common. If you have a printer that uses some other
PDL and not PCL...like Canon (who also makes a standard PDL
CaPCL...which my canon doesn't use :P) this plugin will not help
you....you will need gs unless there is one that covers your printer's
PDL.
PCL also stands for a type of Lisp :P
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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reverse IP-Masquerading
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:15:32 +0000
David Walsh wrote:
>
> Read the Cable Modem HOWTO. It may have a suggestion on how to do it.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have read the HowTo's and the past posts and found nothing on what I want
> > to know. I am running RedHat 5.2, but I have a winmodem,(cant afford a new
> > one right now) so I cannot get on the net as is. I was wondering if there is
> > any way that I can connect to a win98 machine and use the modem from that
> > machine?? maybe through a serial connection or something?? A friend of mine
> > has a gateway laptop that I want to try and connect to. If this is not
> > possible at all, is there a way to connect our machines and me be able to
> > access the files from her machine. So like maybe i could download files to
> > her harddisk and then connect our machines and get them somehow? how would
> > this be done? anyone?
Sygate on your Win9x machine will do the trick very simply.
- Steve
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:18:30 -0800
From: StringSpider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can someone recomend Intel computer with preinstalled Linux OS+ full
accessories
Better to obtain a distribution, and
install it yourself.
Would you buy penguin farm without
knowing anything about raising them?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 26 Feb 1999 10:44:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson) writes:
>
>> Linux was rewritten for no reason, other than to take concepts and
>> to restrictively license them with GPL.
>
> bullshit, john. linux was written because linus had a need (a unix os for
> his new 386), he wanted to learn how to do it himself, and others joined
> in.
>
Writing an old fashioned monolithic OS kernel, with an established API,
and utilities already mostly available? That is not a research project.
I happen to consider the notion "I can do it too, so I can call myself
a man" to be wasted effort. I guess it isn't wasted if the person isn't
sure though. :-(.
--
John | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Automatically determine irq etc of soundcard like oss does?
Date: 26 Feb 1999 11:35:50 GMT
Hello,
I am using kernel 2.2.2 with soundcard support coplied in using the oss
module.
What I would like to know if anyone knows a way how to determine the
parameters to load the soundmodule automatically. When I was was still
working with Kernel 2.0.36 I tried the oss software that had a way of
autodetecting the soundcard. For me it worked. Since I have to
install many linux systems it would be great if there was a way to find
out what interrupt, dma channel and I/O base adress a card has.
Does anyone know how this could be done, or the basic priciples behind
the autodetection the "old" oss software used ?
Thanks Rainer
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Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Tobin)
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:59:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Zenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>: If someone's going to take my code and make it proprietary - perhaps
>: so that I can't even afford to use it myself - I'm damned if I can see
>: why I should let them do it for nothing.
> You're assuming (wrongly) that the "corporate programmer" never
> gives back to the free stream of code that *you* yourself use.
I'm not assuming that, and it obviously isn't true.
But they don't *have* to give anything back, and many companies don't.
Very few give away for free the packages they build on other people's
code. The aim of the GPL is to make it so they *have* to give away
their derivatives if they distribute them at all.
It's entirely up to the author of free software to decide what licence
will best achieve their goals. For many of them, Theo's "making the
corporate programmer's life easier" isn't very high on that list, and
the question of whether derivatives of their code will be free is a
more important issue.
You might, for example, think that using the BSD licence will result
in wider use of your code and more free derivatives, even though it
doesn't force derivatives to be free. Or you might not.
Or you might find the possibility of someone making megabucks from
your code and giving nothing back so distasteful that you prefer to
use the GPL, even if it means that some companies may decide not to
use it. Or you may not.
> Unlike GPLers however, we also like
> to use our *own code* for something more then little toys we build
> at home.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Are emacs, gcc, gnu grep and gnu tar
"little toys"?
> We want to use our own code in the *real world*,
Ah, so you live in the "real world" and I don't. Well if I don't live
in the real world, why should I care about it?
> Because I can not so much as cut and paste 3 lines of GPL code into
> any work I do for my company, ever. I must pretend any and all GPL
> code does not exist, completely.
Nonsense. You can perfectly well edit your code with emacs, compile
it with gcc, package it up with gnu tar. (If your company lawyers
have told you that you can't, go and work for someone with different
lawyers.) If you can't incorporate GPL code in your products, it's
because your company has decided it doesn't want to release its
products on that basis. That's their choice, and it's your choice to
work for them.
Anyway, I'm somewhat baffled by this whole discussion. To repeat,
everyone has to decide what their goals are and what licence best
suits those goals. Your goals may be different from mine, and
different for different programs you write. You can even, with care,
licence the same code under different licences; for example it seems
quite reasonable to me that you allow people to use your code freely
if they allow others to use their derivatives freely, but charge them
as much as you can if they're going to do the same.
And we should try to separate explanations of why we use particular
licences from arguments that others are wrong in their choice. I don't
believe that anyone is wrong to use the BSD licence; I just don't always
use it myself.
-- Richard
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From: Warren Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Linux to SCO User Equivalence
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 05:31:43 -0700
Conrad E Krieg wrote:
>
> Has anyone sucessfully established user equivalence from a linux
> system (we are using Red Hat 4,2) to a SCO OpenServer 505 system? If
> so, how was it done? I have tried adding an entry in the SCO users
> rhosts file but this did not work. Suggestions?
I don't know about that direction, but the reverse can be done by
putting the remote machine's name in /etc/hosts.equiv. ~/.rhosts should
work, too.
--
= Warren -- http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/
= ICBM Address: 36.8274040 N, 108.0204086 W, alt. 1714m
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: installing AIM without root privileges
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:43:33 -0330
Hello,
I am trying to install AOL Instant Messanger (the Java version) from
the installation shell script without root privileges. Is this possible?
(Their installation script is bizarre athough simple and practical: you
download the installation script and simply execute it as root to install
AIM. This is a lot easier than the traditional untarring, configuring,
making, and then installing.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: I'm baffled with these ...
Date: 26 Feb 1999 12:51:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Feb 1999 03:24:28 GMT, Frank Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>One thing I'm curious about is the loopback device. Isn't this device
>used on standalone systems without an ethernet connection?
>
>I think this gets mentioned in the "Network Administrators Guide."
>I have also seen it talked about in "Running Linux."
>
Someone caught my error.
What I was thinking about was the dummy device and not the loopback
device. Sorry for the confusion.
--
Frank Hahn
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From: Michael Neverdosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Hard disk duplication??
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:41:54 +0000
If the hardware is *really* identical and you can put multiple drives
in one box then it is easy to duplicate the disk images.
I have used Partition Magic to do this when upgrading hard drives.
Just use PM ona bootable floppy and use the copy function to replicate
the partitions.
You will probably need to run LILO on each machine to write the MBR.
I have not done this with LINUX (yet), so I don't know if there are any
other problems
michael
Tim Kelley wrote:
>
> Dion Burger wrote in message <7au3dr$rat$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Is there a way to duplicate a hardisk image after the linux installation.
> >I need to set up multiple linux boxes (assume identical hardware). This
> will
> >save me hours of installation and configuration time.
>
> Well there are ways to make an image of a partition - I am not familiar with
> this.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brett W. McCoy)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:09:15 GMT
On 25 Feb 1999 19:21:25 -0800, Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pshaw! My experience of "newbies" in Windows is that they struggle
>terribly figuring out what to do with it. Mostly, they don't. I
>think part of the reason people are so fascinated with "themes" is
>that it's one of the few things they can figure out how to do with all
>that expensive hardware.
I think as far as themes support goes, X window managers like
Enlightenment and Windowmaker blow the pants off any 'themes' in Windows,
which typically are just icons and wallpaper sets.
--
Brett W. McCoy
http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy/
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From: "Frank Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Printer problem with form feed
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:02:52 +0100
My printer (HP Deskjet 895 Cxi) always prints another blank page after he
did the normal print job. I think, this is a form feed based on linux. My
printer is connected with my server where linux is installed. On my computer
Win98 is installed and the RAW data is send to the server and the server
send the data directly to the printer port. Someone says, that you can
deactivate the form feed option in linux, but where?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kingsley G. Morse Jr.)
Subject: Re: Linux Wrappers for DOS programs
Date: 25 Feb 1999 10:30:17 -0800
"Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>[...]
>Read the docs about DEXE format.
Where?
--
If email to me bounces, make sure you deleted the D from the end of my
username in my email address.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Creating PDF files under Linux
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:28:38 -0600
Current versions of ghostscript have a shell script which will convert
a postscript file into a pdf file. When we use it, we find that it
produces
a file about ten times larger than the Adobe distiller does. More
seriously,
when viewed by acroread (and I presume using the web by other Acrobat
readers under other OSs), the output is essentially unreadable. The pdf
file produced by the Adobe distiller produces easily read output.
I presume this has something to do with the fonts that are being used.
So it should be possible to produce a workaround which will give legible
output. There is no problem printing the pdf file using acroread,
but that is not surprising since presumably when acroread prints to
a postscript printer (as in our case), it first converts back to
postscript.
As best I can tell, Adobe does not provide a Linux version of its
distiller, but does provide SunOS, Solaris, and HP Unix versions.
Any comments?
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HOW TO INSTALL A SCSI ZIP ON REDHAT5.2 ??
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:43:16 -0600
Jose Urena wrote:
> 1.check termination
> 2.Your scsi controller BIOS might have a place to select the first boot disk
>
> for some reason it is trying the zip before the fix disk
>
> 3. I am not sure, but I think I read that the SCSI priority is higher with
> respect to the SCSI ID.
> A higher number is tested before a lower number.
> I could be wrong, but try changing your fix disk ID with the ID of the Zip
>
> Christophe Brajon wrote:
>
> > Bonjour,
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have Redhat 5.2 and I want to install a iomega zip (SCSI).
> > The zip is OK and well detected by linux but the system tries to read or
> >
> > boot from the zip in place of the harddisk.
> > So I get a kernel panic.
> >
> > The problem is: Linux attributes to the zip disk a wrong filesystem
> > name:
> > "sda" which is the name of my main filesystem where is all Linux so lilo
> >
> > trie to boot on the zip disk!!
> > It must be "sdb" but I do not know how to do this.
> >
> > I tried to change the SCSI id ( from 6 to 5) of the zip but it is worse:
> >
> > the hard disk (SCSI)is not even detected!
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
I have two hard drives on a computer purchased from VA Research. I just
attached
an external SCSI zipdrive, and gave it a SCSI device number that did not
conflict with
the other device numbers in use. The drive came up as /dev/sdc4. I think
that at one
time I understood why it was 4 rather than 0,1,2,or 3, but I can't remember
now.
If you use an external zip drive, it should come terminated, but one should
check the
switch which allows one to unterminate it. My computer already had a SCSI
controller, as it appears the one under discussion here did. I have connected
numerous external drives to computers with SCSI controllers, including zip
drives, and I have never seen sda taken over or indeed any other internal disks
changing designations. SCSI cards in PCs usually have SCSI configuration
utilities which run before any OS boots, and it may be necessary to fiddle with
that to make sure the drives are named properly.
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Creating PDF files under Linux
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:03:43 GMT
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:28:38 -0600, Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>when viewed by acroread (and I presume using the web by other Acrobat
>readers under other OSs), the output is essentially unreadable. The pdf
>file produced by the Adobe distiller produces easily read output.
>I presume this has something to do with the fonts that are being used.
Yup. Try using times fonts.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<M.com (Mike Willett LADS LDN X7563)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?))
Date: 26 Feb 1999 14:10:37 GMT
With all this talk about FreeBSD/Linux issues, I was thinking
about compatability issues with the two system.
Is it possible to have both a FreeBSD kernel and a Linux
kernel on the same system ?
Can a FreedBSD kernel be compiled on a Linux system ?
(and vica-versa) ?
Or can we only get executable compatablity ?
(I assume this isn't a simple yes/no answer ? What level of compatability
is there and what effort is required to improve this ?)
Mike
P.S. I'm only interested in the technical issues and not licencing
issues !!!
I think all the newsgroups ally - apologies if its look long.
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