Linux-Misc Digest #189, Volume #21               Tue, 27 Jul 99 22:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Resize /usr partition... Is it wise? (Thomas S. Urban)
  Re: 2 Questions about elm and wtmp ("Youngert")
  Re: character based word processor?? (Christopher Browne)
  Re: math.h problem (Scott Lanning)
  Re: math.h problem ("Dann Corbit")
  Re: What I think of linux. (MWS)
  Re: Memory usage of window managers-need info (Terry Porter)
  Disk mirroring with PowerQuest Drive Image Pro (Ron Gibson)
  Re: boot without fsck? (Scott Lanning)
  Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries (Todd Knarr)
  Apache upgrade - quick question (Chris Pott)
  Diet diary app? (Orit Shacham)
  Re: Cylinder number problem!? ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: Scared to try again (Terry Porter)
  kppp login script hiccup (rcmiv)
  can't probe ppp module in kernel 2.2.2.5-15 using loadable module (James Yu)
  Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++??? (Michel Catudal)
  Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++??? (Michel Catudal)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas S. Urban)
Subject: Re: Resize /usr partition... Is it wise?
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:21:11 GMT

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:09:26 -0700, Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Coy A Hile wrote:
>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Aaron Ginn  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I made the mistake of making my /usr partition too small (~600 Mb) when
>> >I created it.  As such, I am quickly running out of space on it.  I have
>> >a 500 Mb /usr/local partition and two other 500 Mb partitions that
>> >I want to delete and use the space to increase /usr to ~2 Gb.  Is this
>> >wise, and what is the best way to do it?  I use Red Hat, so I plan on
>> >using Disk Druid to do the dirty work.  I can back up my entire system,
>> >so even if I have to do a complete reinstall, I can live with it, but
>> >I'd prefer to just mess with the above partitions and keep my system as
>> >close to its current state as possible.  Has anyone done anything
>> >similar, and how did it go?
>> >
>> Why not keep /usr the same size and addd these new partitions to make
>> /usr/local larger.  After all, /usr/local is where newly installed things
>> should go anyways (at least canonically).
>>
>> Coy
>
>The problem is that most Red Hat rpm files install into /usr not
>/usr/local.  I still have plenty of room in /usr/local for stuff that will
>go there, but I really need to make /usr bigger.
>
>Aaron

You could move some of the stuff under /usr somewhere else,
then symlink to it.  /usr/doc might be a good first choice.  It
uses 144MB on my RH6 system.  Doing this with /usr/doc
probably won't break anything.  Check that the dir doesn't
have relative symlinks that point outside the subdir to be moved:
cd /usr; find <subdir> -type l | xargs ls -l
And use 'cp -a' to copy the file to preserve permissions,
times, etc.  I've done something like this when I added
a disk and moved /usr/local to that disk on a RH5.1
system, and it seemed to work OK.  No promises though.

As far as changing the size of partitions, I don't know
if disk druid will do this safely.  There is an app
called "ext2resize" that supposedly will allow you
to non-destructively resize partitions.  I've never
used it, but you can find the home page by going to
www.freshmeat.org and searching for "ext2resize".

Good luck.


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From: "Youngert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 Questions about elm and wtmp
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:21:20 -0400


David P. Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7nl62h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have 2 distinct questions about elm and wtmp on a Redhat6.0 system.
>
> Elm:
> How can I set up elm (or Redhat for that matter) to send out with a
> different email address. For example it currently sends out as
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I want it to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that
> when I send email to people that can not see what server I am actually
> coming from. Any ideas?? I know how to change the reply-to but that really
> doesn't do what I want it too.
>
> wtmp:
> Does anyone know of a good cron job to clear out the wtmp file??  I have
> tried jsut erasing it, but then at login it doesn't re-create it, it just
> sends a message that logging for this login will not be taken because the
> wtmp file does not exist (or something like that).
>

For this question, I believe you just do this add the shell (off my head):

   cat /dev/zero >& /var/log/wtmp

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> Thanks for the help or any pointers in the right direction to settle these
> issues.
>
>
> --
> David P. Cunningham
> Webmaster
> Cyberix, Inc -- http://www.cyberix.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: character based word processor??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:13:56 GMT

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:02:16 -0800, Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: 
>I am looking for a good, character based word processor for
>Linux. The character based requirement is due to the fact
>that it will be used by many users on text-only dumb
>terminals.
>
>This needs to have the features of a standard word
>processor, not just text editing functions.
>
>Any ideas (commercial or free) would be appreciated.

See URL below for links...

- Pathetic Word (SIAG) may have a TCL/Curses interface.
- Wazo
- Angoss Smartware
- Look at Cliq; it *may* have a text UI
- There is rumor of a text mode version of WordPerfect; this would be
  a Very Good Thing, if true.  As far as I can tell, it's not.

I'm not sure that you'll consider any of them "good;" there has not
been a lot of effort going into such stuff.

The other suggestion would be for the users to use a text editor to
edit some markup language such as TeX, LaTeX, nroff, Lout, or SGML.
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/wp.html>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: math.h problem
Date: 28 Jul 1999 00:34:36 GMT

Steve Summit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:*PLEASE* bite the bullet and put the math functions into libc

I don't understand the reason, other than so we don't need to
put -lm on the command line. Please explain why you consider
it a unix misfeature.. Is it inconsistent? Also, a probe
question: would you consider it more consistent to require an
explicit -lc on command line?

--
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"How can we make our teaching so potent in the motional life of man,
that its influence should withstand the pressure of the elemental
psychic forces in the individual?" --Albert Einstein

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From: "Dann Corbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: math.h problem
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:40:36 -0700

Scott Lanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7nlj6s$lr2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Steve Summit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> :*PLEASE* bite the bullet and put the math functions into libc
>
> I don't understand the reason, other than so we don't need to
> put -lm on the command line. Please explain why you consider
> it a unix misfeature.. Is it inconsistent?
No.  It's just plain idiotic.  Why force them to link in the math library
when doing math.  Shall we also do -ls for string operations and -li for
integer operations?  It's pointless and causes *literally* hundreds of
messages in news:comp.lang.c alone (a deja news search turned up 800).
Since objects not referenced don't get crammed into the binary anyway, where
is the benefit to forcing people to add -lm if they use a math function?

>Also, a probe
> question: would you consider it more consistent to require an
> explicit -lc on command line?
That would be even more idiotic.
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From: MWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:59:08 -0400

I'll have to agree and I only been using it for 2 weeks.

On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Groman wrote:
>I've just subcribed to several linux newsgroups and read a couple of posts,
>and I decided
>to write this small comment on how "I" feel about linux, I know nobody
>cares, but anyway...
>
>Linux is a great operating system, it is powerful, fast, relatively easy to
>use(to other UNICES and to Windoze etc.) I am saying it is easier to use
>compared to Windoze, because to do the same things you can do in Linux
>in Windoze you'll have to turn mountains upside down.(install freebie
>software that will crash your comp).
>
>Second reason, windoze costs about a $100, and doesn't come with anything
>useful. Linux on the other hand is free and comes with a trillions of
>zillions programs with it. and a lot more to download. no scary binaries!
>almost no viruses!(there are like 10 unix-based viruses on the record
>compared to 25000 of dos/windoze based, correct me if I am wrong).
>
>what is wrong with linux and why I use windoze to do routine things, like
>news posting and e-mail, though mostly I use linux for learning programming
>and well other stuff... well here it is:
>    I like the whole idea of operating system by people for people, BUT
>There isn't a some kind of comitee, company, person, aritficial
>intellegence, that does the following:
>    Organise the basic system so it will be same style output, output
>readable by everybody,
>    compile the tons of documentation available in an avarage sized User
>Guide with readable
>    english and easy to use reference tables. HOW-TOs and FAQs are
>not-organized, or
>    organized in a form I don't understand(each unique individual, on any
>given point in time
>    has his own limit of understanding something, you'll just have to accept
>that).
>
>    Also, there should be a several modes of IO for the system itself, for
>example if
>        IO Techie Level is 0, then during the boot it will display something
>like :
>                Loading Linux Kernel.
>                Loading Drivers.
>                Starting services etc.
>        but if IO Techie Level is like 10 it will output even more than it
>outputs now.
>
>    When I first installed Red Hat 5.2, it installed really well, I was
>really surprised that it was faster and
>    easier than install of Windoze 95. Then I booted and logged in, I liked
>it until I had to figure out something
>    how to do something, I spent 3 days configuring my ppp(that's because I
>started with that without knowing
>    anything about linux) ppp how-to was understandable but it didn't cover
>my problems, IRC chat rooms just
>    sent me to hell, and newsgroups, well that's why it was 3 days :-)
>    If there would've been a help program that contained the basics of Linux
>set-up(X,ppp,servers, etc.)
>    in a easy-to-use interface, Linux is great only when you know how to use
>it. so to make Linux great for           everybody you have to make learning
>how to use it easier. I have UNIX Unleashed book for 1500 pages, I
>don't have nor time nor patience to read that, but when I looked through the
>contents, it contained most things
> you need to use any Unix system. If the basics of that under Linux would
>fit on 300 pages, it would be great.
>
>wow, that's a long post. sorry to bother you with my useless and boring
>thoughts.
>
>groman. I spent 10 minutes writing this message, which I could've spent
>learning some assembly.
>
>bye, thanx for patience.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Memory usage of window managers-need info
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 Jul 1999 08:52:12 +0800

On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 10:36:40 -0300, Jim McIntyre 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ronald Harness wrote:
>
>> What other "nice" window managers
>> exist with the same functionality but less in terms of
>> system drain.  Any references to memory usage for the
>> common window managers?
>>
>> Thanks for the info.
>> Please respond via email and the newsgroup if possible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> R Haynes
>
>Try XFwm. I've been using it for about a week now, and it really is more
>stable  and easier on resources than other window managers. It looks
>great too. It looks a lot like the Solaris desktop. It's available at
>http://www.xfce.org
> Hope this helps
>Jim McIntyre
>
>
I second XFwm, its very light, heres my TOP

  8:54am  up 1 day, 20:27,  8 users,  load average: 0.27, 0.12, 0.03
79 processes: 77 sleeping, 1 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 10.0% user,  1.7% system, 11.5% nice, 88.5% idle
Mem:   63448K av,  60932K used,   2516K free,  33532K shrd,   6368K buff
Swap:  51404K av,  20272K used,  31132K free                 16284K cached

  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
11380 root      19   0 13108   9M  1004 S       0  8.4 16.1  62:21 X
16657 tp         0   0  6224 6016   904 S       0  0.0  9.4   8:31 tkdesksh
22889 tp         0   0  3656 3656  1952 S       0  0.0  5.7   0:02 xfce

One interesting thing I noticed is the xscreensavers run nearly twice as
fast now ?

Another, is until my son started using Netscape remotely of this box last
night, my swap was a consistant 3.5% for 2 days, whereas under Fvwm2 its
always around 40%.

terry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.os2.setup.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Disk mirroring with PowerQuest Drive Image Pro
Date: 28 Jul 1999 00:47:05 GMT

Has anyone tried using Powerquest Drive Image Pro.  I don't want the
extra load of a IDE RAID controller in my machine and prefer to make my
"backups" when necessary.  The thing that has me concerned is that I'd
like to be able to use a removable rack mount for the HDD and I'm a bit
confused on how they get around drive letter mapping.  

Since primary partitions are assigned drive letters first and a primary
partition will be needed on the backup drive for c:\dos then that's
going to make OS/2 unbootable as it 's drive letter will change when the
second disk is online or does it?  I've used ext2 linux drivers under
OS/2 and you can control drive letter mapping that way but I want to be
sure.  And since I have several partitions if the first partition on the
second drive is logical then it's useless as a backup because I'd have
to delete all the higher partitions and make the first one a primary I
think. 

Now I have deleted and partition lower on the drive list that was an
ext2 partition and reformatted it as FAT but I'm not sure you can do
that and change a logical to a primary partition???

And if I'm not mistaken it mirrors both FAT and HPFS.  Linmux ext2 I'm
not so sure about.

So...any help?

                      email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: boot without fsck?
Date: 28 Jul 1999 00:17:25 GMT

Robert Grimm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I need a system in a place where there is not always a constant
: power supply. (The  trunk of a car)

Heh heh.. What kinda system are we talking here? :)

: How can I set it up so shutting down by removing power won't
: cause damage

Continually 'sync' it.

As far as hardware is concerned, it's probably not the best
thing in the world to do, though, particularly if you're talking
about power dips where it blinks off then back on. Maybe you
could make a backup supply from the alternator. :)

: and fsck won't run on bootup?

Remove 'fsck' from startup scripts. fsck isn't mandatory.
Also 'man fsck', as there are options to fsck only when superblock
is dirty.

: Could I just remount with the hd as ro?

??

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Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"If lightning is the anger of the gods, the gods are concerned mostly
with trees." --Lao Tse

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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries
Date: 28 Jul 1999 01:13:48 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Correctly versioned Windows .DLL files are a far better model for
> distributing binary software objects than are Linux (UNIX) shared
> libraries.

Actually, Linux/UNIX have had versioned shared libraries longer than
DLLs, at least when it comes to supporting multiple versions installed
at the same time. Much of the Windows "DLL Hell" simply doesn't exist
in UNIX, because a program that needs version 6 of a shared library can
simply have version 6 installed without touching versions 4 and 5. The
problem is that, UNIX or Windows, you can't have multiple versions of
the same DLL/shared library active in the same executable at the same
time, at least in general, because the internals of the libraries may
differ in incompatible ways ( you can pull it off in certain cases, but
you have to jump through a lot of hoops to insure that no instance of
a library ever touches resources created by or being managed by another
instance of the same library ).

UNIX/Linux shared libraries have problems, but they're a subset of the
problems that exist with Windows DLLs. And the new symbol versioning in
glibc2.1 solves even more problems with shared libraries.

-- 
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jets.

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From: Chris Pott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache upgrade - quick question
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:56:48 -0700

Greetings.

Running LinuxPPC Release 4 (after giving up, for now, on a successful
R5 installation).

Would like to upgrade Apache to 1.3.6.  However, this is my scenario:

          [root@xxxxxx   chris]# rpm -U apache-1.3.6-0.ppc.rpm

          failed dependencies:
                  /usr/local/bin/perl5 is needed by apache-1.3.6-0


Okay, so I did this:

          [root@one bin]# ln perl5.00502 /usr/local/bin/perl5

And still get:

          [root@xxxxxx   chris]# rpm -U apache-1.3.6-0.ppc.rpm

          failed dependencies:
                  /usr/local/bin/perl5 is needed by apache-1.3.6-0

 
Any suggestions?

TIA.

-- 
Chris Pott
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From: Orit Shacham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Diet diary app?
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:55:29 +0300

Hi all,

  Anybody know of a nutrient-counter application for Linux?   

Orit
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e-mail

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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cylinder number problem!?
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:53:18 -0400

If you go into the fdisk's 'expert' mode (as you did) and set
the cylinders correctly, fdisk will let you create partitions
above cyl 1024.  It will however still complain about overlapping
partitions even though they don't really overlap.  I know it's
spooky, but you can normally ignore the complaints (especially
if Partition Magic 4.0 pronounces the partitioning good).  And yes,
you'll have to set the cylinders each time you rerun fdisk.

The problems appear to have been resolved in RH 6.0.  You may
feel better about having this version on your system. (For this
and other reasons, I do.)

Coklin, Zarko [CAR:SC69:EXCH] wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>I spent last two weekends trying to install Red Hat Linux 5.2.
>After many hours and problems (I have 13 Gbytes hard drive if that
>indicates you to possible problems) I came to an interesting point.
>Here is the scenario what happened.
>
>    I partitioned my HD using ordinary FDISK from DOS on 2 partitions
>C: (around 7 Gb and it is less thab 900 cylinders) and D: (around 5 Gb).
>
>Formatted both partitions, and then installed W98 on C one.
>    After that I tried to install Linux, and when I booted PC using
>Linux CD ROM I started installation. Everything was quite fine
>untill I had to create partitions for Linux. OK, I deleted D DOS
>partition and tried to create all necessary  partitions for Linux.
>But all of sudden I was surprised with message: Free space
>error!
>    It take me few miliseconds to realize that Linux FDISK is
>aware of only 1024 cylinders on my HD. That is not a true value.
>The true value is 1583. I entered Expert mode in FDISK and
>tried to change that cylinder number to correct one. It ack-ed
>it, but when I quit FDISK and entered again, the number was still
>set to 1024. The same story is with Disk Druid. It is obvious that FDISK
>
>didn't apply the changes that had been made (from 1024->1583).
>
>    To add some more flavour to this problem, I tried partitioning
>from Partition Magic 4.0. It recognized 1583 cylinders, it created
>partitions. Everything seemed to be bright. Once I got back
>to Linux installation process and when I wanted to verify partitions
>again with FDISK, it just complained about overlaping partitions.
>It seems it counted up to 1024 cylinder, and everything over it
>overlap with the partitions that started from cylinder #1.
>
>
>As I am not experienced in this stuff and because I took this Linux
>installation problems to personally, I woud like to get some answers
>ASAP.
>
>Thanks,
>Zarko
>
>p.s. You may reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Scared to try again
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 Jul 1999 08:34:44 +0800

On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:53:53 -0400, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>About 2 years ago I spent about 200 hours getting RH 4.0 to run on one of my
>computers.  It was a fiasco.  Now I'm thinking about trying it again.  I've
>noticed that the NG's don't have the same kinds of problems I saw back then,
>so I'm hoping it can be installed easier.
>
>Anyone ever installed it on an Amptron PM-9100 motherboard?  This has
>integrated video and sound.  Other than that I don't have anything unusual.
>
>What are my chances of a clean install without any manual tinkering?
>
>Scott
>
>
Its interesting how peoples experiences differ !

In 1993 I installed first time Yggdrasil Linux 0.98 on a "Cyrix 486slc"
with Sound Blaster card and cd rom.
Everything worked, including X, which did crash a lot on my trident
videocard as I recall.

Alas Unix was way to different for my poor MsWindows bludgeoned brain and I
shelved it.

Then in 1997 I installed Redhat4.2, it went first time, but now the mobo was
a AMD 586, same cd and sound card. 

Is it just me ? why has my Linux life been so easy, in comparason with
MsWindows, which I've had to fight every step of the way!

I've never used top of the range mobos or cpus, always purchasing the
cheapest stuff I could find.

If you dont want manual tinkering, perhaps VarResearch or the like is your
answer, with their range of pre-installed Linux boxes ?

terry
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From: rcmiv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kppp login script hiccup
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:37:51 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers.  This is the 1st usenet message I've posted since I got this
thing online.  I'm sure you're all thrilled to see another idiot poking
around in linux.   Caldera 2.2, KDE desk, USR serial 56k v.90 (on which
I just blew $129 to circumvent the winmodem that came with this machine
when I bought it 3 years ago.  Thank you very much Mr. Gates.  Now I've
officially got a free operating system that cost me more than a Win'98
upgrade.)

I've got my kppp script set up something like this:
Expect/Username:
Send/Username:
Expect/Password:
Send/Password:
Expect/granted
Send ppp

Everything works fine except one little hiccup....the modem connects, I
can see the script execute and succeed in the log window...and then the
modem promptly hangs up, redials and reconnects.  On the second connect
everything goes through and I am good to go.  Any suggestions?

Thanks for reading this far.
rcmiv


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From: James Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: can't probe ppp module in kernel 2.2.2.5-15 using loadable module
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:42:00 -0700

Hi,

I got the following error messages when I try to load the ppp into the
kernel (2.2.2.5-15) in RedHat 6.0 distributiton. I got the same error
when I use insmod command too. When I exam the source code "ppp.c" under
drivers/net directory, I find that the cli(), save_flags() and
restore_flags() are used all over. They are defined under
include/asm-i386/system.h file. Any idea about how I can make it work ?
Thanks.

[jyu@viper2 2.2.5-15]# modprobe ppp
/lib/modules/2.2.5-15/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol __global_cli
/lib/modules/2.2.5-15/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol __global_save_flags
/lib/modules/2.2.5-15/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol
__global_restore_flags


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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++???
Date: 27 Jul 1999 20:44:20 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> So just what is going on here?
> Did C++ disappear from Suse 6.1 egcs package by accident?
> 
> Where is __null, iostream.h, g++ ?
> How can people compile KDE apps under Suse 6.1?
> 
> I can't believe I'd be the first person to spot a blooper of this
> magnitude, but I'm buggered if I know how to compile the source for KDE
> apps under my current system :-(
> 
> Anyone else had probs compiling KDE or other C++ apps off Suse 6.1 ?
> I chose all the dev packages at install and have egcs,libgpp etc.
> 
> What initiated this was my desire to compile the latest version of
> kppp. Please don't tell me to use wvdial as the issue is I want to
> hack^H^H^H^Hdevelop C++ progs on my linux box...
> 

???????????????????????????

What are you talking about?

Use egcs for C++

The buggy G++ is being replaced by something more ANSI compliant
and less buggy.

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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++???
Date: 27 Jul 1999 20:47:03 -0500

John King wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure it this will help but there is a 2.7 gcc c++ (??) package
> included and a note on another package to include if you want to use the
> 2.7?? package as your default compiler.
> 
> So I think it's there you just use YaST to uninstall (think) egcs and
> install the other two packages.
> 
> I think egcs is the default c++ compiler in a stock install. As you know you
> can't yet compiler the kernel with it AFAIK.
> 

Nonsense! Where did you get that idea?

GCC is being replaced by egcs which is better.

You will get in trouble only if you are using old kernels.

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