Linux-Misc Digest #877, Volume #19 Sat, 17 Apr 99 13:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: A New 'puter Board for Me (Jim Henderson)
Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5 (Jim Henderson)
Re: Help - LILO screwed up (Jim Henderson)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (Jim Henderson)
What-ya-ma-callit (TonyC)
Which moron thought up the /opt directory? (Bruce Richardson)
Cyclom-Y problem with kernel 2.2.5 (Complete freeze!) ("Kenneth Ho")
Animated-startup logo ("Mr.Freeman")
Re: Linux filesystem and powerdown (Robert Heller)
Re: Opinions on KDE? (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Which moron thought up the /opt directory? (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: What-ya-ma-callit (mist)
Re: Which moron thought up the /opt directory? (Bruce Richardson)
Re: Linux version of autoexec.bat (Bruce Richardson)
problem with executable file (nturdali)
d/l recoverey (Tony Ekron)
Re: Linux version of autoexec.bat (Preben Bech)
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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: A New 'puter Board for Me
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:35:16 -0600
The system I have Linux running on has an ABIT BX-6 system board in it.
I really like it, and it handles Celeron and PII processors, so there's
a good upgrade path.
Jim
--
Jim Henderson
Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums
Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)
Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.
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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.mh,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Email with Earthlink, Sendmail, exmh, mh, Linux libc5
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:39:05 -0600
If I had to guess, I'd guess that these providers got tired of receiving
spam from Earthlink and have denied access to the entire domain because
Earthlink refuses to deal with spam appropriately.
Just a guess...
Jim
--
Jim Henderson
Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums
Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)
Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.
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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help - LILO screwed up
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:50:00 -0600
I'd get a bootable diskette with a copy of FDISK on it and use the
command:
fdisk /mbr
to restore the old MBR.
The problem here is that you are using LILO to boot the system, and LILO
depends on the /etc/lilo.conf file to determine what it can boot. Since
you nuked the Linux partition, you nuked that file, and LILO has no idea
what to do.
Jim
Neil Wells-West wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Can anyone help me. I installed Caldera Linux on my PC, which previously
> had Win98 on it. I installed LILO into the MBR and configured it to dual
> boot. Everything worked fine. I then decided to reformat the Linux
> partition (for various reasons), intending to re-install Red Hat on it.
> Now, when I boot I no longer get the Caldera LILO options, just the
> characters 'LI' at the bottom of the screen and the PC just hangs. I
> think my MBR is corrupted. how can I get the PC back to just booting
> Win98 for the time being???
> Sorry if this sound really sappy............
>
> Any help much appreciated
>
> Neil
--
Jim Henderson
Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums
Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)
Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.
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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:45:49 -0600
Harry Lewis wrote:
> From some of the replies in this forum you'd think it takes a degree in
> engineering to learn to use a mouse! Even if this were so, however,
> X-Windows still gives you the option of starting an Xterm and typing
> commands away to your heart's content.
Interesting comment, really, because from what I've observed, it seems a
lot of people think you need a degree in engineering to learn how to use
a command prompt. It really isn't that difficult.
Jim
--
Jim Henderson
Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums
Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)
Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TonyC)
Subject: What-ya-ma-callit
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:39:45 +0100
I have two machines, one Linux only [No monitor/keyboard/mouse], one
dual-boot Linux/Win95 and another Win95 machine to be added soon.
They're networked together and happily telnet each other, share files via
Samba, etc.
What they can't do is share a modem.
What I really mean is that I can't access the Internet on the Win95 machine
via the Linux machine.
What I'm doing at the minute is crazy.
I'm running X-Windows and Netscape on the, vastly under powered, Linux
machine and using VNC Server on the Win95 machine to see what's happening.
This is _slooooow_ and stupid.
I'm sure you're getting the idea now that I really don't know what I'm
talking about -and that's the problem. I don't even know what this stuff is
called so that I can read-up about it.
Can anyone get me started on the right path, please?
Or most of the way down the path would be even better!
Oh yes!
For an encore I'd also like to run a proxy server [??] on the Linux machine
so that what I've browsed on one machine will be available to all the other
machines and OS's without having to dial in again.
Anyone else doing this, who can recommend something suitable for this very
small scale usage?
Thanks
TonyC
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From: Bruce Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which moron thought up the /opt directory?
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:41:57 +0100
Every other day on the Red Hat mailing list there's a message from a
newbie who wonders why his root partition is full. It always turns out
they've installed KDE or some other app that installs to /opt. Since
they haven't created a partition called /opt (and why should they?)
their root partition overflows.
I can see the rational for a place to put non-essential user-oriented
apps, but wouldn't /usr/opt have made more sense? That way, people
would have had a _choice_ - keep it as part of the /usr partition or
create a separate partition for /usr/opt. The way it is, it just forces
people to work round it if they don't want an /opt partition.
I guess he/she was one of those morons who don't think things through,
just thought "My idea is good so people will just have to live with it"
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From: "Kenneth Ho" <kh(anti_spam)@(anti-spam)macbrush.net>
Subject: Cyclom-Y problem with kernel 2.2.5 (Complete freeze!)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:21:17 +0800
Reply-To: "Kenneth Ho" <kh@(anti-spam)macbrush.net>
Problem: The box hanged completely if I access any of the 8 ports.
Config: RedHat 5.2, Kernel 2.2.5 with Kernel 2.2 erratas, Cyclades
Cyclom-YeP.
Setting:
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 19, 0 Apr 17 08:10 ttyC0
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 19, 1 Apr 17 08:10 ttyC1
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 19, 2 Apr 17 08:10 ttyC2
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 19, 3 Apr 17 08:10 ttyC3
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 19, 4 Apr 17 08:10 ttyC4
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 19, 5 Apr 17 08:10 ttyC5
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 19, 6 Apr 17 08:10 ttyC6
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 19, 7 Apr 17 08:10 ttyC7
ttyC0, Line 0, UART: Cirrus, Port: 0x0000, IRQ: 11
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: infinte, closing_wait2: infinte
Flags: spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq session_lockout
Card Info:
Bus 0, device 8, function 0:
Communication controller: Cyclades Cyclom-Y below 1Mbyte (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11. Master Capable.
Latency=32.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe2002000 [0xe2002000].
I/O at 0x6600 [0x6601].
Non-prefetchable 20 bit memory at 0xc8000 [0xc8002].
Cyclom-Y #1:
Bus : PCI
Base Address: 0xc00c8000
Interrupt : 11
TTY devices : ttyC0 - ttyC7 (8 ports)
CD1400 revision per chip:
#0 : 0x46
#1 : 0x46
Any idea what might be wrong?
Thanks
Kenneth
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From: "Mr.Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Animated-startup logo
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:53:16 +0200
Freeman here. Do anyone know if there is a way to make an animated startup
logo in linux. I really, really want to know.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux filesystem and powerdown
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:58:24 GMT
Jahn Otto Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:57:24 +0200, wrote :
JOA> I have installed SuSE Linux on a computer that is going to be used as a
JOA> web server.
JOA>
JOA> It seems to me that the Linux filesystem is very vulnerable to
JOA> powerdowns - much more than Win95/NT installed on a FAT16 disk.
JOA> I tried to turn off the computer without umounting the disks, and
JOA> repaired the disks with fsck. The result was that several files and
JOA> directories were deleted.
JOA>
JOA> My questions are:
JOA>
JOA> - Is there any alternative filesystem for Linux that handles powerdown
JOA> better ?
JOA> - What can be done to minimize these problems ? (An UPS would of course
JOA> be nice, but what else can be done ?).
I am assuming that these 'powerdowns' are *simulations* of a unavoidable
power failure (eg you have a machine up 24/7 and Ready Kilowatt takes an
unscheduled vacation). I hope you are not thinking in terms of turning
off the machine when done -- you should *always* run /sbin/shutdown to
cleanly shut the machine down.
All you really need is a small UPS with a 'power failure' control output
(some UPS's have a RS232 output than can be used to tell the host
computer that the power is out). You can set things up so that when the
UPS takes over, the system shuts itself down (eg /sbin/shutdown -h now
'Power Failure'). This is the normal way of doing things with UNIX
servers.
Having said all of that, I run a box 24/7 and have not had any problems
with lost files, and yes, I have had a few power failures.
JOA>
JOA>
JOA>
JOA> Regars,
JOA> Jahn Otto
JOA>
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:06:00 -0500
Matt O'Toole wrote:
<snip>
> I agree that KDE's a bit of a hog, but I think it's more demanding of your
> video card and video memory than your CPU and its RAM. I think this is true
> of X in general, and KDE is a pretty fat incarnation of that. I have about
> half the machine you do, and KDE runs fine. I do get the occasional "color
> map" error, which doesn't happen when I switch to the leaner Windowmaker. I
> suspect that a better video card and more video memory would make menus and
> windows snappier, just as with Win 98. But, I don't think it has anything
> to do with the CPU.
>
> I like KDE a lot. It's still not as polished as Win/Mac in a usability
> sense, but with a little more work it could be right up there.
>
> Matt O.
I've been running KDE since beta days. I like it. I'm going to stay
with it.
I'm running a P166 with 64MB RAM, 127MB swap file and three HD's for
10GB of disk space.
I access the Internet using Kppp and Netscape 4.5, both of which run
fine without problems. In some ways KDE is as slow as Win95, especially
when kfm displays the contents of a directory with many thousands of
files in it. In other circumstances, like when I fire off blender-1.37
from a desktop icon, the response is instantaneous! Blender fills the
screen in a fraction of a second.
I find KDE very easy to configure, to add or remove desktop icons,
etc... I'll stick with it
I guess that is why every buy isn't trying to marry the same girl! ;-)
--
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which moron thought up the /opt directory?
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:10:25 -0500
Bruce Richardson wrote:
>
> Every other day on the Red Hat mailing list there's a message from a
> newbie who wonders why his root partition is full. It always turns out
> they've installed KDE or some other app that installs to /opt. Since
> they haven't created a partition called /opt (and why should they?)
> their root partition overflows.
>
> I can see the rational for a place to put non-essential user-oriented
> apps, but wouldn't /usr/opt have made more sense? That way, people
> would have had a _choice_ - keep it as part of the /usr partition or
> create a separate partition for /usr/opt. The way it is, it just forces
> people to work round it if they don't want an /opt partition.
>
> I guess he/she was one of those morons who don't think things through,
> just thought "My idea is good so people will just have to live with it"
I just copied /opt to /c1/opt (amost alone on a 2GB partion), deleted
/opt under root, and added a symlink /opt ---> /c1/opt. No problems.
--
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What-ya-ma-callit
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:54:37 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TonyC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>I have two machines, one Linux only [No monitor/keyboard/mouse], one
>dual-boot Linux/Win95 and another Win95 machine to be added soon.
>
>They're networked together and happily telnet each other, share files via
>Samba, etc.
>
>What they can't do is share a modem.
>
Yes, they can. 8-)
>What I really mean is that I can't access the Internet on the Win95 machine
>via the Linux machine.
Ahh.
>
>What I'm doing at the minute is crazy.
>I'm running X-Windows and Netscape on the, vastly under powered, Linux
>machine and using VNC Server on the Win95 machine to see what's happening.
>This is _slooooow_ and stupid.
>
Well yes, it is.
>I'm sure you're getting the idea now that I really don't know what I'm
>talking about -and that's the problem. I don't even know what this stuff is
>called so that I can read-up about it.
Masquerading.
>
>Can anyone get me started on the right path, please?
>Or most of the way down the path would be even better!
Yes. There are Howtos on Masquerading. Read them.
<snip stuff about proxy server.. Get everything else working first...>
>
>Anyone else doing this, who can recommend something suitable for this very
>small scale usage?
>
Yes. Upgrade your linux box to the 2.2.* kernel. (You'll need to
upgrade other stuff too.) Then you'll be able to use ipchains. The 2.2
kernel makes the masquerading easier to understand. (Well it did for me
anyway.) Once you have masquerading set up (which is essentially just -
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ip_v4/ip_forward (or something very similar)
ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s dotted.ip.of.windowsbox -i ppp0
) then all you have to do is set the "default gateway" for TCP/IP for
the NIC in the windows machine to the IP of your Linux box, and you're
away. Each time you connect through Linux you should be able to do
[network related stuff] from Windows.
--
Mist.
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From: Bruce Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which moron thought up the /opt directory?
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:52:32 +0100
Frank Sweetser wrote:
their root partition overflows.
>
> the whole /opt bit is very common in the commercial unix world. me, i just
> symlink /opt to /usr/local
Oh, I know how to fix it - but I tend to avoid using software that wants
to go to /opt and relocate it somewhere else if I do. Apart from
anything else, rpm overwrites the symlink with a directory every time
you install another package.
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From: Bruce Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux version of autoexec.bat
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:55:35 +0100
Reyn EagleStorm wrote:
>
> Carl Davis wrote:
> >
> > What file would act like the autoexec.bat file?
>
> ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile
> I suggest you read a manual or two, because this is extremely basic
> stuff...
>
I suggest _you_ go back and read them. .bashrc etc. are login scripts,
not startup scripts. That honour is assigned to the rc scripts.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nturdali)
Subject: problem with executable file
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:33:26 GMT
Hi,
I am new to the Linux world.
Today I needed to run a C program. Compilation seems to work OK.
But I cannot use executable file.
After commands:
# gcc -o myprog myprog.c
# myprog
the system responds:
"dash:myprog: command not found".
Why? What should I do?
nturdali
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From: Tony Ekron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: d/l recoverey
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:52:44 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all
Anyone done anything yet with d'l recovery
I am looking for a prog like getright but for linux
anyone know of anything like that
Great
Thanx alot in advance
Tony
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From: Preben Bech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux version of autoexec.bat
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:41:32 +0000
Carl Davis wrote:
>
> What file would act like the autoexec.bat file?
>
After the kernel has loaded, the program /etc/init is started.
init reads the /etc/inittab file to find out what to do. This is the
only thing that happens automatically. All other things that start up
(bash, login etc) are consequences of what is written in /etc/inittab
So read this and get help from "man init" and "man inittab"
Preben
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