Linux-Misc Digest #956, Volume #19 Mon, 26 Apr 99 18:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Syslog filtering (/dev/null)
GNOME libgnomeui error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how people can reply to messages sent by pine (Chris Smith)
cua to ttySX or ptySX ("David Page")
Mozilla: can't type in URL ? (**Nick Brown)
Kppp and DNS ("Giuseppe Macario")
Re: Opinions on KDE? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Need help setting up a remote X-term. (Daryl Champagne)
Re: Linux Sucks as a Java Server, comments??? ("U. Mueller")
Re: Opinions on KDE? (Albert Ulmer)
Re: Problem with the Qt GUI application (William Yu)
Re: Netscape: get flagged mail in newsgroup ("Gero H. Marten")
Linux printing to a Deskjet 1000c? ("Thomas Cameron")
Re: *.doc viewer (Robert Lynch)
Re: Kppp and DNS (Markus Wandel)
Re: Need help setting up a remote X-term. ("David Z. Maze")
Re: PostgreSQL help needed. (Leslie Mikesell)
ppp through rs 232 ports (schkey)
strange problem with modules (Nicolas Lorrain)
Re: Compiled program seems too large (Ben Hopkins)
Re: Linux Sucks as a Java Server, comments??? (jik-)
Random Character Swapping ??? Help! ("J.R. Satterfield")
Re: Plz hlp me uninstall Redhat 5.2? (diahedrial)
Re: Netscape is SSSSlow (DMK66)
.Xclients (Timothy Murphy)
Re: voice over internet anyone? ("Matthew B. Kennedy")
Re: Directories with color (diahedrial)
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From: /dev/null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: osu.sys.linux
Subject: Syslog filtering
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:03:10 -0400
Anybody done it?
Any ideas on how to make it work?
dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GNOME libgnomeui error
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:33:50 GMT
I have problems with Gnome under SuSE 6.
I installed all the right Linux Packages, but when I start the now configured
X session I have this error:
/opt/gnome/lib/libgnomeui.so.32: undefined symbol:
gtk_item_factory_add_foreign
This prevent the Gmc file manager to load and I'm also unable to start many
other applications.
Sometimes I also have an error like Subshell.c error.
I reinstalled the rpms many times, but nothing happen!!!
What can I do, where's the problem?
Thankx in advance, au revoir
Max
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From: Chris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how people can reply to messages sent by pine
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:40:18 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> How can I specify MY email address in pine so that people can reply to
> messages sent by pine. Please replt to my email address. Thank you.
This may not be the best solution, but I just set customized-hdrs to
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and pine replaces the from header that it would
otherwise have included. Pine then doesn't realize that sent mail items
are actually from you, but other than that it works out fine.
--
Chris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "David Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cua to ttySX or ptySX
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:59:56 -0400
Reply-To: "David Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I upgraded RH 5.2 to kernel 2.2.4 and need clarification on ttys and ptys. I
have read that they must be created and given major numbers of 3 or 2
(huh??). In short, what do i need to do to my dev directory to make it fully
compiant with the way that it should be. Everything still wotks ok right
now, but i dont want future problems. If i change device names, what are
they supposed to point to or be used for? I hope things like hard drives are
not renamed. Can anyone help or point me in the right direction on this.
Thanks,
Dave
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mozilla: can't type in URL ?
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:17:56 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using Mozilla from 19981001 on Debian 2.1.
I can't type the name of a page in the URL slot. Or at least, I can,
but it's ignored. The box is grey, too, so I presume something is not
set up right.
I can do File/Open and type any URL I want. What magic am I missing ?
And, where is the FM for this sort of thing so I can RTFM ?
--
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From: "Giuseppe Macario" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kppp and DNS
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:26:55 +0200
Hi all,
I have Linux Mandrake 5.3 (kernel 2.0.36).
I have set the DNS numbers of my provider in Kppp's menu;
nevertheless, during the connection to my provider Kppp
isn't able to find the DNS server. For example, Netscape
blocks up itself with the message: "looking up host: ...".
Who can help me?
I thank you in advance.
Giuseppe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: 26 Apr 1999 14:33:23 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Speaking of KDE, I like the task bar across the top but I keep having
windows get their title bars underneath it and then I can't
reposition them. Am I doing something wrong? Setting the task
bar to auto-hide lets me sneak up and grab them when they are
uncovered, but it seems kind of strange to do it that way.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Daryl Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Need help setting up a remote X-term.
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:33:31 -0500
Hi,
One thing you might try is "xhost +" instead of with the machine name.
That should allow any client to connect from any host. I'm not sure if
it'll work but you should definitely try it.
Thanks,
Daryl
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:15:39 +0200
From: "U. Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Sucks as a Java Server, comments???
XuYifeng wrote:
> but now, SUN moves java to serve side.
> so I think java is dead, who will use java in server side? server should be
> speed sharp, java is slow
> whatever how you implement it, it cannot compete with C/C++, java is dead.
Hi !
Have you ever used Java ?? I think not...at least not really...otherwise
you wouldn't write such BS...
If you look around the internet and in the news...all you see is
Java...what do you think...everyone gone stupid...wanting to slow down
their computer ?? I don't think so. They are just weighing the pros and
cons...
The GUI itself isn't the fastest around...but that depends on the
programming style as well...I have seen GUIs that were not much slower
as others...but the backend is fast...I have written programs in C and
JAVA and the JAVA versions were not slower as the C version...some even
faster...
And on the server side...you don't need JAVA for all things you do...I
use servlets to access the underlying databases...and nobody has ever
complained about speed...
The great advantages of JAVA are that I can write a program on say a
Linux machine and use it without recompiling on OS/2, Windows, Solaris,
Dec Unix and maybe on your fridge or your microwave in the future...no
prob at all...the sources as well as the classes are not big at all
And if you ever have tried to hassle with memory management in
C/C++...it*'s awful...you spend hours or days to find the memory
leak...with JAVA you don't care about that...and you don't need to...
Well...to make that short...JAVA might not be the language for all...but
it is surely not dead...
NRN
See ya
Udo
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From: Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:39:09 GMT
> Speaking of KDE, I like the task bar across the top but I keep having
> windows get their title bars underneath it and then I can't
> reposition them. Am I doing something wrong? Setting the task
> bar to auto-hide lets me sneak up and grab them when they are
> uncovered, but it seems kind of strange to do it that way.
You can reposition any window by dragging it with the left=20
mouse-button while pressing the Alt-key. You don=B4t have to see the=20
title bar for that, just start dragging from anywhere in the window.
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From: William Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with the Qt GUI application
Date: 26 Apr 1999 19:40:14 GMT
Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have installed the file qt-1.42-3rh51.i386.rpm on my
: Red Hate 5.2.2 kernel and when I try to compile programs
: they can't seem to find it. Usually the programs are looking
: for Qt 1.4 (instead of 1.42). Should I download 1.4 and install
: that as well? Thanks much in advance,
Have you installed qt-devel-1.42........?
Regards,
William Yu
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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape: get flagged mail in newsgroup
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:13:34 +0200
Ekkard Gerlach wrote:
> how can I get the mails I have flagged ?
>
> I have downloaded the headers. After I have cut the ppp-connection.
> After I have flagged the mails I want to read. How can I tell Netscape
> to download all flagged mails ?
Not clear what you mean. With NS under linux you don't download
headers; you even cant. So you must have done something else.
Because it's a multitasking / network system. it is assumed you have
an own newsserver. Therefore with NS (and all other Linux
newsreaders) you get the complete message. Have another look at the
way NS for Linux works and you will find its way better then any
other operating system.
--
Gero H. Marten
<http://www.provi.de/gmarten/index.html>
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From: "Thomas Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Linux printing to a Deskjet 1000c?
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:01:42 -0500
Howdy all -
I posted this once with no responses, so I'm trying again. If it is an RTFM
thing, can someone please tell me which FM to R?
I have Samba 2.0.3 running like a champ on a dual PPro 200, 128 MB RAM,
running Slackware 3.6, kernel 2.2.5. Running like a champ as far as file
sharing is concerned, that is. Printing is another matter. I have an HP
Deskjet 1000c hanging off the parallel port for use via Samba for a bunch of
WinNT and Win9x machines. I set up a raw printer in /etc/printcap, the line
looks like this:
dj1000|DeskJet 1000c:sh:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/dj1000
the printing section in smb.conf looks like this:
[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /usr/spool/samba
print ok = Yes
The print jobs make it, and start coming out the printer, but where ink
stops getting laid on paper, the form stops. I guess I need a form feed. I
tried making my printcap look like this:
dj1000|DeskJet 1000c:sh:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/dj1000:mx#0:ff=\f
which should force a form feed, and set no limit on the max print size.
This didn't work. How do I force a form feed after the last page? Is it a
Samba thing, a WinNT print driver thing, or a Linux thing?
Thanks!
Thomas Cameron, CNE, MCP, MCT
Three-Sixteen Technical Services, Inc.
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:05:15 -0700
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *.doc viewer
Christopher Mahmood wrote:
>
> there's a package called 'xdoc' or something like that.
> personally, i just do a 'strings < bloat.doc > text.txt'.
> you'll notice that the entire document is repeated twice
> in the .doc file.
> -ckm
The one I use is "catdoc" which includes a GUI viewer "wordview"; see:
http://www.ice.ru/~vitus/catdoc/
Bob L.
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Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.best.com/~rmlynch/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Wandel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kppp and DNS
Date: 26 Apr 1999 19:55:09 GMT
In article <01be901a$7b8adc80$a518b7c2@default>,
Giuseppe Macario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>I have Linux Mandrake 5.3 (kernel 2.0.36).
>I have set the DNS numbers of my provider in Kppp's menu;
>nevertheless, during the connection to my provider Kppp
>isn't able to find the DNS server. For example, Netscape
>blocks up itself with the message: "looking up host: ...".
>Who can help me?
>I thank you in advance.
Just a couple of sanity checks...
1. While dialed up, verify that KPPP has actually put the DNS entry into place:
cat /etc/resolv.conf
2. Ping the DNS server to ensure that you can reach it.
Markus
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Need help setting up a remote X-term.
Date: 26 Apr 1999 16:30:43 -0400
Daryl Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DC> One thing you might try is "xhost +" instead of with the machine
DC> name. That should allow any client to connect from any host. I'm
DC> not sure if it'll work but you should definitely try it.
You probably don't want to do this: it allows any client to connect
from any host. That means that, if I was feeling generous, I could go
off and xlock your display (with my password) because I felt like it.
I could do other worse things if I were feeling less generous. You
probably want to use some variant of xauth, or perhaps ssh; see the
Remote-X-Apps mini-HOWTO for more details.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL help needed.
Date: 26 Apr 1999 11:25:12 -0500
In article <7g1v3m$4mo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[...M...] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am getting the following error when using PostgreSQL:
>
>$ psql template1
>Connection to database 'template1' failed.
>FATAL 1: SetUserId: user "marko" is not in "pg_shadow"
>
>So how do I get my userID into pg_shadow???
Oops - I just replied that:
as the postgres user, do 'adduser marko'.
Make that 'createuser marko' and it should work....
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: schkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp through rs 232 ports
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:11:46 GMT
Hi,
I am looking for detailed instructions on how to connect a windows box and a
linux box through the rs 232 ports for a file transfer. Please be as detailed
as you possibly can.
Thanks,
Kelly
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From: Nicolas Lorrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: strange problem with modules
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:20:16 +0200
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML>
<BR> Hi
<P> I coded the most simple program for a module under
Linux :
<P>#define MODULE
<BR>#include <linux/module.h>
<BR>#include <linux/kernel.h>
<P>int init_module (void) { printk (KERN_INFO "Hello World\n"); return
0; }
<BR>void cleanup_module (void) { printk (KERN_INFO "Ciao\n"); }
<P> This program compile without problems, but some strange
things appear according to the version
<BR>of the Linux kernel.
<BR> When I load it on Linux 2.2.5, no problem.
<BR> When I load it on Linux 2.2.1 this error message
is printed : <B>simple.o: unresolved symbol printk</B>
<P> To load it, I use the command : <B>insmod simple.o</B>
(name of my module)
<BR> To compile my program, I used <B>egcs-2.90.29 980515
(egcs-1.0.3 release)</B>
<P> Does someone know what's wrong ??
<P> Thanks
<P> Bye</HTML>
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From: Ben Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiled program seems too large
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:03:37 +0000
Evan Wolenzik wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When I compile the following code, my executable is 25k! Am I doing
> something wrong?
>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
> int main(void)
> {
> printf("Hello World!\n");
> return(0);
> }
>
> I just use gcc -o hello hello.c . Using -O[2,3] makes no difference.
Try using puts() instead of printf().
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:01:17 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Sucks as a Java Server, comments???
> people who aren't doing things that belong in a scripting language like perl.
>
> Try writing a GUI based program in perl, and you'll see how badly it sucks
> compared to java in that reguard.
>
> Note: I said **in perl**. not "perl+tk", not "perl+XXX".
Heheh, ok then,.....do it in Java without AWT or Swing. Java is a
language, Perl is a language. See Perl doesn't come with a class
library (I don't think anyway, maybe it does) and Java does. Without
that Object API Java would be garbage,...useless. If your going to
start throwing tools away to make a point, then there it is.
>
> In java you don't need any extra add-ons. It's all in one (fairly) coherent
> distribution.
Well, if you think AWT is a complete distribution then I guess there
isn't much else to say.
>
> Plus, I greatly doubt they were using any decent java runtime, since it
> was 30 times slower.
> If you are *really* testing the langauge, not
> 'How efficient is your system("cmd") implementation', then java should
> be very close to perl in speed. Sometimes, faster.
Wrote a program once in Java that had to hunt through a 5000 entry (6
lines per entry) for a specific query. I used Perl to create that
database from merged text files which were made to be human readable,
not for machines. The Perl script was about 20 lines if, and the java
class required to do a line by line search was about equal. The perl
script was doing more, but thats besides the point because it was also
very much faster.
The java program had to use a seperate key file which I read into memory
that it used to find each entry's data. Luckily I only needed to search
by only one of the feilds or this would have been more imposig to create
(7 files instead of 2 and such)
Also, the memory residence of Java is just plain out of hand. I
honestly don't see how server admins can find this system a viable
platform for development, but whatever.
And with Swing, well there is really no point in using java at all with
swing because it makes a P200 act like a 386.
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From: "J.R. Satterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Random Character Swapping ??? Help!
Date: 26 Apr 1999 17:15:26 GMT
Well, this may or may not be Linux related... but it's my best guess.
Background:
Pentium 90 running RH5.1 is my firewall masq. machine forone other win98
machine, using 10BT. Linux is connected using ADSL. Linux box has no
monitor and is for the most part administered remotely from the win98
machine or in some occasions from outside.
Problem:
In accessing from the win98 machine and also from outside via telnet, I
am seeing somewhat random (unpredictable, but repeatable) character
swapping. For example, read carefully the results of two consecutive
ping commands:
[root@hoth log]# ping yahoo.com
PING yahoo.com (204.71.177.35): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=0 ttl=242 time=196.9 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=195.9 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=194.8 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=3 ttl=242 time=194.4 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=4 ttl=242 time=1:2.5 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=5 ttl=242 time=194.8 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=6 ttl=242 time=194.4 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=7 ttl=242 time=196.3 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=8 ttl=242 time=1:3.8 ms
r
--- yahoo.com ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 9 packets recei~ed, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 114.4/117.0/123.8 ms
[root@hoth log]# !!
ping yahoo.com
PING yahoo.com (204.71.177.35): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=0 ttl=242 time=195.5 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=193.6 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=193.2 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=3 ttl=242 time=114.3 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=4 ttl=242 time=196.3 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=5 ttl=242 time=198.0 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=6 ttl=242 time=198.1 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=7 ttl=242 time=1:0.3 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=8 ttl=242 time=116.8 ms
64 bytes from 204.71.177.35: icmp_seq=9 ttl=242 time=199.2 ms
r
--- yahoo.com ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets recei~ed, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 113.2/116.5/120.3 ms
[root@hoth log]#
See the ':' where a number should be? and the word received has
a '~' instead of a v... both times...
Why does this happen?
Also, possibly related, 'w' doesn't always
return complete results... sometimes not telling me about sessions
that I know to be running (like the one originating the 'w' command!)
For example:
[root@hoth log]# w
1:05pm up 34 days, 11:51, 4 users, load average: 1.02, 1.05, 1.00
USER TTY FROM ( LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT
jsatter ttyp3 :0.0 Thu 9pm 0.00s 47:40m 47:40m bash
[root@hoth log]# w
1:06pm up 34 days, 11:51, 4 users, load average: 1.02, 1.05, 1.00
USER TTY FROM ( LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT
jsatter ttyp2 :0.0 Thu 9pm 5days 0.10s 0.10s
bash
jsatter ttyp0 acy1sun01.mea.co 9:17am 0.00s 2.00s ? -
Oh, and this is weird... I just tried 'w' two more times, once resulting
in a seg. fault, and the second time giving me this:
[root@hoth log]# w
Error: /proc must be mounted
To mount /proc at boot you need an /etc/fstab line like:
/proc /proc proc defaults
In the meantime, mount /proc /proc -t proc
1:07pm up 0 min, 4 users, load average: 1.07, 1.07, 1.01
USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT
[root@hoth log]#
What the heck is wrong with my machine!? Or is it a problem with my
(small) network? (0 packet loss suggested to me otherwise...)
Thanks
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From: diahedrial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plz hlp me uninstall Redhat 5.2?
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:45:27 -0700
"fdisk /mbr" will remove lilo from the master boot record, then just
use fdisk to delete the extended partition. Install windows. done.
-diahedrial
-- wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I installed redhat 5.2 on my old pc that I wasn't using anymore but
> now I am going to sell it and I am going to install windows. Could
> someone please help me. I tried to do this myself but I goofed big
> time. I thought if I just booted with a win95 disk, fdisk the hd and
> then formated that I wouldn't have any problems. I know now how dumb
> that was. Everything seemed to be going as planned at first I bootted
> and started fdisk and it showed three partations: primary partition,
> ext part, and a non dos. I deleted the first and the last no problem,
> and then the ext resized to 1.5G my 1.6G hd and I couldn't delete it.
> I made an active part of 60 Mb and booted but lilo booted and failed.
>
> I know I should have properly uninstalled linux but I didn't know how
> so could someone help me out?
>
> email me at polo1 at sympatico.ca
>
> Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DMK66)
Subject: Re: Netscape is SSSSlow
Date: 26 Apr 1999 21:06:51 GMT
i run netscape on a k6-2 300mhz and 32meg ram connecting to ISP @28.8 and
netscape blazes. I always thought MSIE was faster than netscape in windows,
but netscape thru linux makes MSIE look like a piece. My 2 cents.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: .Xclients
Date: 23 Apr 1999 16:20:21 +0100
Did RedHat invent .Xclients ?
It is not mentioned in any of the X-windows manual I looked at,
and there is no man entry for it (under RedHat-5.2).
What exactly is the advantage over .xinitrc and .xsession ?
Was there any need to introduce yet another dot file ?
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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From: "Matthew B. Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: voice over internet anyone?
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:37:49 +0000
Not all of this is entirely true.
"D. Vrabel" wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Neil Zanella wrote:
> > I am still looking for a half decent program that will allow
> > you to people to talk for free over the internet and works with
> > modems.
>
> I worked for a time at a compnay which produced Voice over IP routers. It
> is hard enough to get decent voice quality over a single 64kbit/s link let
> alone on the internet.
64kb/s is enough bandwidth for one telephone quality voice transmission,
even just PCM coded, possibly at most 16 bits per sample. You could get
away with 8 bits even.
>
> There are numereous problems:
> 1. The delay in transmission of packets. This is high for internet
> traffic.
> 2. Packets sent out of order.
> 3. Dropped packets are not resent.
This is all true, however, the way speech is parameterized and processed
in resynthesised in internet phone systems means that lost packets now
and then will not degrade the transmission much as far as your ear is
concerned.
We use UDP specifically because of it's speed. Of course, with UDP you
don't get resent packets, but in speech coding what good is resending a
packet that's already lost and therefore increasing the delay in output
if it doesn't make much difference perceptually anyway?
> To over come these problems there needs to be a large playback buffer at
> the recieving. I'd image that the buffer would be so large as to
> introduce a excessive playback delay >1 second. Compare with satellite
> delays of 0.5 seconds.
A buffer does help, but because of the delay aspect, it is not the main
draw card of an internet phone. The way the speech is repesented in
*information terms*, is the key to success. There is a lot of redundancy
in a speech signal.
>
> 4. Speech packets must be prioritised. Many routers do not prioritize.
That's not so important anyway for the same reasons above.
>
> 5. the UDP/IP packet headers must be compressed reduce the bandwidth by
> half. This only functions over a Point-to-point link where both sides
> understand the compression protocol. cf. Uncompressed voice requires about
> 16 kbit/s; compressed about 8 kbit/s. (voice data is a 24 byte packet
> every 30ms add a 30 (?) byte UDP/IP header and you double the bandwidth
> requirement.)
You need to understand that a speech coder (the guts of an internet
phone) will produce data for transmission which has the reduncancies of
the speech signal removed (or at least as much as possible). Therefore
you cannot expect to compress the speech data one iota. This is all
based in information theory. The only overhead worth worrying about
after speech paramterization is the header.
Typical coding rates for speech are from about 1200 bits/s upward. And
that is for tried and tested techniques. Research is heading toward 800
bits/s now. But the point is 1200-2400 bit/s is a typical, moderate
figure.
> Basically it is not possible to have decent speech quality over the
> internet.
Of course it is possible. I personally have used an internet phone over
a 56kb/s modem and the internet. People use these things all the time
now -- with reasonable speech quality.
Matt
>
> David
> --
> David Vrabel
> Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
--
Matthew B. Kennedy
Research Centre in Speech, Audio and Video Technology
Queensland University of Technology
Australia
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From: diahedrial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Directories with color
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:39:17 -0700
Add the following to your .bashrc
alias ls='ls --color=tty'
mikerego wrote:
>
> How can I get RedHat directories, files and executables in color like in
> Slackware I have seen this question here before but can't find it now.
> Any help would be grateful.
> Mike
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