Linux-Misc Digest #976, Volume #19 Wed, 28 Apr 99 15:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Dos Text Files to Linux Text Files (Matthias Warkus)
Re: linux on floppy? (John Ridley)
Re: Continuity (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Linux Boot Disk (Lew Pitcher)
Re: C-Kermit compilation under Linux.. (Frank da Cruz)
Re: Continuity ("J. Benjamin Hale")
How to see Win95 longnames under Linux ("mikeHHH")
Re: More newbie questions... (**Nick Brown)
Re: desktop size in fvwm2? (Gordon Weast)
Re: StarOffice 5.0 (jason)
Re: Support for Linux (Yan Seiner)
Re: StarOffice 5.0 (Brad Mills)
Re: S.u.S.E news group (Matthias Warkus)
Re: HP supports Linux (Terrapin)
Re: StarOffice 5.0 ("David Page")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Dos Text Files to Linux Text Files
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:12:30 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:19:04 -0700...
..and Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do any of you helpful folk out there know of a good way to
> convert a dos text file to a linux text file? See, when I read my
> dos text files in vi, all of the carriage returns are replaced by
> control-m's and carriage returns....terribly annoying. Thanks
> kindly for any help.
recode latin1:ibmpc <infile.unix >outfile.dos
recode ibmpc:latin1 <infile.dos >outfile.unix
mawa
P.S.: You need to get recode for the example to work.
--
But when she was with Chacko, old limits were pushed back. Horizons
expanded. She had never before met a man who spoke of the world [...]
in the way other men she knew discussed [...] their weekends at the
beach.
-- Arundhati Roy, _The_God_of_Small_Things_
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Ridley)
Subject: Re: linux on floppy?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:29:06 GMT
I know you said you can't download, but here is how to get a
distribution on floppy if you can get to someone's machine that can,
and this demonstrates that a modern linux install can be put on
floppies.
Go to ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/slackware
Go to the bootdsks.144 directory - read which.one to see which root
disk you need. Download that and rawrite.exe. make your boot disk.
Go to the rootdsks directory. Download color.gz and make your root
disk with that.
Now go to the slakware directory and download the packages you want.
For instance, if you want the Networking package (set N) (and you do)
download the files from directories n1,n2,n3...n9 and copy the files
from each directory to a floppy.
There you go. A full install with everything will take about 34
disks. This doesn't include source (except probably kernel source, I
don't know)
I've done this in the past. It hurts, but it does work.
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:13:26 -0700, Erik Ryberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have been unsuccessful in my search for linux on 3" floppy. Several
>web sites advertise that it is easily available but I have not found
>this to be so. Can anyone point me to a source? I cannot download to
>my computer and it has no cd drive.
>
>Thanks.
>Erik Ryberg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Continuity
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:11:42 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:00:19 -0500...
..and Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "J. Benjamin Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> >Is there anyway to make an ext2 file system contiguous once again?
>
> Out of curiosity, why do you want to?
One is misled if one wants to.
mawa
--
But when she was with Chacko, old limits were pushed back. Horizons
expanded. She had never before met a man who spoke of the world [...]
in the way other men she knew discussed [...] their weekends at the
beach.
-- Arundhati Roy, _The_God_of_Small_Things_
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Linux Boot Disk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:26:55 GMT
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:18:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JonShado) wrote:
>
> I am running a dual boot system and have a Maxtor hard drive.
>Thus i could not install LILO on the hard drive and boot that way. I
>have been booting to Linux using a boot disk. Unfortunately, i lost
>the boot disk and am wondering if there is anyway to make a disk so i
>can boot to Linux again. I attempted to make a boot disk on someone
>elses machine but the disk came up with lots of errors. Any ideas???
As root
cd /usr/src/linux
make zdisk
>From /usr/src/linux/README
- do a "make zImage" to create a compressed kernel image. If you want
to make a bootdisk (without root filesystem or lilo), insert a floppy
in your A: drive, and do a "make zdisk". It is also possible to do
"make zlilo" if you have lilo installed to suit the kernel makefiles,
but you may want to check your particular lilo setup first.
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz)
Subject: Re: C-Kermit compilation under Linux..
Date: 28 Apr 1999 13:45:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ishwar rattan wrote:
: > I wnat to compile C-Kermit (6.0.192) under Linux. Got the tar file
: > and tried to compile it (RedHat-5.2). I am having problems. Make linux
: > or linuxnotcp results TIOCGSERIAL not declared.
:
: 6.0.192 does not compile cleanly on libc6 systems.
:
Because it predates libc6. Maybe it would be more accurate to say that
libc6 is not "C-Kermit 6.0 compliant" :-)
: Newer versions are under development, available for
: testing at ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/tar/ .
:
Better yet, please visit the web page first. That way, you'll see an
explanation right up front. If you go to the C-Kermit 6.0 page:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html
the first thing it tells you is that version 6.0 is not suitable for recent
Linux releases, and then refers you to C-Kermit 7.0, which is presently in
Beta test:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html
When referring to Kermit, please pass around links to the Columbia Kermit
website:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
rather than ftp references so people can find out what they want (or need)
to know up front, rather than waste time downloading and futzing with a
potentially obsolete tar archive or RPM or other distribution.
Readers are encouraged to try C-Kermit 7.0 now. The current Beta (6) should
be quite stable. And if you can make binaries for Sparc, Alpha, etc, I'd
appreciate it if you could send them in. Also please send reports of any
problems with building or use.
Thanks!
- Frank
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From: "J. Benjamin Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Continuity
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:47:01 -0400
I'm not really sure, but I thought that it might be a good idea. I have a
feeling that they should be contiguous. I believe that the file systems was
designed that way, unlike FAT or FAT32.
--
J. Benjamin Hale
85 SE 16th Avenue, F203
Gainesville FL 32601-0504
352/335-6532
http://members.tripod.com/nebhale/bens_public_key.txt
Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "J. Benjamin Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> >Is there anyway to make an ext2 file system contiguous once again?
>
> Out of curiosity, why do you want to?
>
> --
> -Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
> OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
> WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
> Cthulhu for President --- don't vote for a lesser evil.
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From: "mikeHHH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to see Win95 longnames under Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:42:28 GMT
I have installed RH 5.2 Linux and i wish to access to win95 in full,
longname mode not like msdos mode
is that possible?
thanks in advance.
--
Posted via Talkway - http://www.talkway.com
Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: More newbie questions...
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:48:03 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- Just why can't Linux detect monitor frequencies automatically, when Windows
> can? I can't imagine them being proprietary information. Is this just one
> of those things that never gets written because it's no fun to write?
Windows doesn't "detect" them. It puts up a list of frequencies that
might work, given your video settings. It is quite capable of putting
up settings that don't work (to the point of making your system
unbootable in graphics mode) and can in (very) extreme cases, fritz your
monitor. That's why there's the Test button, not that everyone uses
it. We have one or two people every month here who put their Dell into
1600x1200, maximum refresh rate, "no need to press Test because I know
about computers", click, oops, phone help desk, no, I didn't change
anything.
XFree's treatment of monitors, cards, mice, etc, seems complex to
Windows users, because it is _thorough_. You have to get used to this
in GNU/Linux - software is written _properly_. Problems are not hidden
from the user with a thin veneer of "don't worry, MS will take care of
you, call this number, have your credit card handy".
This reminds me of a discussion a friend of mine had with his boss
several years ago. My friend wanted to buy Macs. The boss wanted to
buy PCs because "Apple are always releasing bug fixes for their
software. Microsoft aren't, so their software has fewer bugs".
> -- Is there a list anywhere on the net of what configuration files cannot be
> user-modified since they are automatically generated and would get overwritten?
> (I remember reading about people having trouble changing their window manager
> because of this problem.)
Basically, /etc/X11/XF86Config (YMMV for the directory name). Keep a
few versions of this file around, like you do with SYSTEM.INI for
Windows 3.1.
> -- Is there a list anywhere on the net of what configuration files cannot be
> user-modified since they are automatically generated and would get overwritten?
> (I remember reading about people having trouble changing their window manager
> because of this problem.)
This varies between distributions. But it sounds like you might be
planning to change things around at random and see what happens. I
strongly recommend against this. In general, any tool which changes
config files, will tell you in its man pages what it does. But the
documentation is definitely not perfect or complete. OTOH, the support
in the NGs is unbelievable.
> -- Sometimes I see references on the net to files in Documentation/whatever
> which seems to be a directory in the kernel source. I would like to look at
> these documentation files to find out how good support is for some devices.
> Are these useful for this purpose, and is there any way I can get them over
> the net without having to download 13 megs of kernel source?
A set of kernel sources should be on most any distribution CD you can
buy. Go ahead, blow those $50 ! Or download 13 MB... will take about
an hour and a half. The best documentation of the kernel, IMHO, is the
source code itself. Often the comments give a lot of info, even if you
can't follow all of the C code.
--
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Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)int)
Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
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From: Gordon Weast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: desktop size in fvwm2?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:36:23 -0400
I have found that the desktop size comes from the largest of the modes
on the Modes line, not the first one.
If you take the Modes line below, and reverse the entries, then X will
come up in 1280x1024 and the desktop will be the same size as the screen.
Then "Ctrl Alt +" cycles through the screen sizes, leaving the desktop
full size. Think of 640x480 as a 2x magnifier that you can pan around.
This is nice when your eyes get tired.
Gordon Weast
"David K. Means" wrote:
>
> Well, to achieve what you are really asking for, you need to rearrange the
> entries in
> your /etc/XF86Config file. The size of the desktop is controlled by the
> number of pixels
> in the first entry of the Modes specification in the "Display" subsection of
> the "Screen" section.
> I have arranged the modes this way in mine:
> Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
>
> : nick wrote:
> : >
> : > Hi all,
> : >
> : > how do i change the size of my virtual windows in fvwm2?
> : >
> : > right now i have 6 virtual desktops but each one is bigger than the
> : > actual sixe of my monitor screen. i want it so that the desktops are the
> : > same size as the monitor.
> : >
> : > this may be related to what resolution i have the whole system set at
> : > which is another question i have.
> : >
> : > thank you
> : >
> : > nick
> :
> : --
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nwu.comp.unix.linux,nwu.comp.misc
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:44:20 -0400
The way I got it to work as a user was to install it as that user. If I recall
correctly, only the user who installs it can run it.
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Support for Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:17:41 -0400
RedHat for one; there's a bunch of them out there....
Yan
Damian Cooke wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to get support for LINUX, ie are there any support
> companies out there offering this kind of service ?.
>
> How much do they cost, yearly / per incident .
>
> Any info would be a great help
>
> --
> Please reply to cookedATmosschem.co.uk
> change the "AT" to "@"
> Done to prvent Spam.....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Mills)
Crossposted-To: nwu.comp.unix.linux,nwu.comp.misc
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:16:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The way I got it to work as a user was to install it as that user. If I recall
>correctly, only the user who installs it can run it.
You recall correctly! I think they did this intentionally to try to
limit its use to one user. Obviously, a very insecure approach!
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: S.u.S.E news group
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:20:42 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:34:55 +0200...
..and Michael Hasenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthias Warkus wrote:
> >
> > It was the Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:16:55 GMT...
> > ..and graffito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Well is seems that their is a newsgroup out there for every distribution
> > > except S.u.S.E., unless I'm wrong. If this is the case than who would be
> > > interest in make a case for a newsgroup for SuSE users.
> > >...
> > It should be easy to have such a newsgroup created in the alt.*
> > hierarchy. If you manage to get that one through, maybe one could try
> > to create a comp.* group for it.
>
> I'm against distro-specific newsgroups. Let Linux (or GNU/Linux) be
> Linux. For distro-specific stuff there're mailinglists.
Uh-huh. Let Unix be Unix. For implementation-specific stuff there're
mailinglists.
Seriously, do you think these are a bad idea?
comp.unix.aix
comp.unix.amiga
comp.unix.aux
comp.unix.bsd.*
comp.unix.cray
comp.unix.machten
comp.unix.osf.osf1
comp.unix.sco.*
comp.unix.solaris
comp.unix.sys3
comp.unix.sys5.*
comp.unix.ultrix
comp.unix.unixware.*
comp.unix.xenix.*
de.comp.os.unix.sinix
..
Mailing lists simply don't scale.
mawa
--
We wanted leaders, but we got stooges.
-- Kanji Ram, leader of the untouchable's political revolt in India.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terrapin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: HP supports Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:14:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terrapin)
On 28 Apr 99 03:05:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown) wrote:
>In article <7g59nm$29s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>
>>This just in from a friend of mine at HP...
>
>I wish this would include porting their scanner software and printer
>drivers to Linux...
HA!
HP charges $12.95 for an upgrade driver for Winblows!!!
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From: "David Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nwu.comp.unix.linux,nwu.comp.misc
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:14:05 -0400
Reply-To: "David Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jeremy,
I cant answer your question about Star Ofiice, but I have one for you.
I noticed you are running a new kernel and glibc2.1 . I too am running a
newer kenel (2.2.4), but have yet to do a install on glibc2.1 . Guess im a
bit scared. Did you have to recompile anything major (sytem wise, not user
type). Did you fully discard / overwrite the glibc2.0 ? Did you use the rpm
or compile from source?
I compiled 2.1.1pre1 and got a good check out of it, but am still to ancy to
do the "make install".
Just looking for you input, hope you can help.
BTW. I did read in the Star Office Installation Guide that libc5 is required
for Star Office to run. I assume that is somewher on your system too. I
didnt install it at all.
Dave,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeremy Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Has anybody successfully installed StarOffice 5.0 Personal Edition for
> linux? I have a copy installed, but it refuses to run properly.
> Executing the "soffice" script, which sets a few library and font
> variables, then execs a real binary, runs for a few seconds and them
> simply quits. If I set the library path variables by hand, then execute
> the binary soffice.bin from the commandline, the same thing happens. It
> appears to execute for a few moments, then simply quits. I'm running a
> system installed with rh 5.1, glibc2.1, just built my 2.2.6 kernel. Is
> there another library somewhere that I need to update?
>
> Also, the stardivision website is truly revolting... All content is
> thoroughly obscured. Does anyone know where the *real*
> staroffice/stardivision usenet groups are?
>
> jeremy
>
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