Linux-Misc Digest #976, Volume #27 Tue, 29 May 01 12:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: LUG question, please help (Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
PNP OS (BIOS setting) (Claus Atzenbeck)
Re: Why does Linux / OSS community love mailing lists and hate news servers? (Jan
Schaumann)
Re: Problems with transfering files from win to linux ("gajo")
Re: How to start an executable??? ("gajo")
Re: Turn off the warning message ("gajo")
Re: Why does Linux / OSS community love mailing lists and hate news servers? (Villy
Kruse)
Re: XTerm Question (Dan Mercer)
Re: Turn off the warning message ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: "makewhatis" gives errors (Colin Watson)
Re: How to start an executable??? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Move a partition up (Grant Edwards)
Re: kmix only works wothg root logged in (Richard Laskey)
Re: IBM to let Linux fans use mainframe--for free (chrisv)
Re: Kwrite for Gnome? (Dave Brown)
Madrake 8.0 and Nvidia openGL ("KW")
Re: Why does Linux / OSS community love mailing lists and hate news servers?
(Matthias Warkus)
Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ? (Dustin Puryear)
Re: tape backup malfunction (Frank Miles)
Matrox AGB graphics card question: simple (Allen Ashley)
Re: Limit the user session time (nordi)
Re: Sensor module for via686 motherboard (K133A) ("Wayne Osborn")
Re: manipulating /etc/passwd + /etc/group (Claus Atzenbeck)
Re: how to connect to internet in non-X ("NG_lurker")
Re: manipulating /etc/passwd + /etc/group (Bill Unruh)
Re: Why does Linux / OSS community love mailing lists and hate news servers?
("Floyd L. Davidson")
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.questions,alt.comp.linux.xxx,alt.os.linux.best,comp.os.linux.help,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: LUG question, please help
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:51:10 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "aaronBauman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur
Aut inferior?
--
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Burkhard W�lfel
v e r s u c h s a n s t a l t (at) g m x . de
pubkey for this adress @ pgp.net
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From: Claus Atzenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PNP OS (BIOS setting)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:12:48 +0200
I had to install Linux on a Computer were also Windoze is installed. With
lilo you can choose between Linux and Windoze.
Is it better to switch off or on PNP (Plug&Play) OS at the BIOS settings??
Claus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why does Linux / OSS community love mailing lists and hate news servers?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:17:36 -0000
* wade blazingame wrote:
> Threading is almost never
> supported as well in mail clients as it is in news readers.
Then you're using the wrong MUA.
Mutt (http://www.mutt.org) and Gnus (was it http://www.gnus.org?) both
thread very nicely.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://www.netmeister.org
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From: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with transfering files from win to linux
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:27:34 +0200
Reply-To: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Dave Uhring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> gajo wrote:
>
> > I have downloaded a 6 Mb large file. The file is a Linux RPM, but I don't
> > have internet access on my linux machine, so I had to download it to
> > windows. The only way to transfer this file is through floppy disks, and
> > how can I do this? Should I split the file into 3 smaller ones, but how
> > will I put them together when they're on my linux machine?
> >
> > Csaba
>
> Why don't you use the ftp client on the Windows box? It's a good BSD ftp
> client, not Microsoft.
Yeah, but I don't have the two computers connected. I don't have any networking, so I
have to
transfer files on floppies...
Csaba
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From: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start an executable???
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:26:11 +0200
Reply-To: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> you are missing the error messages you got after you tried the various
> commands above. How are we supposed to know what is wrong if u don't say
> what happened when you made your attempts?
OK, when I write /usr/tictac/tictac, usr/games/tictac or ./tictac I get the following
message:
bash: /usr/tictac/tictac: Cannot execute binary file
When started from Gnome File Manager or Run Program I don't get any messages. As far
as I know this
is an xwin game, so it should start in Gnome...
Also, in the Makefile it says that I need the usr/include/ncurses library, and I do
have it.
Csaba
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From: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turn off the warning message
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:45:07 +0200
Reply-To: "gajo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm still learning linux so I'm almost always loging in as root, and this message
>is annoying
cause
>
> Well don't! You can't learn linux by running as root! Use sudo. You'll
> find it solves your problem.
OK, how do I log in as sudo? Should I create a new account? What parameters should I
set for that
account (could you tell me step-by-step, cause I read man login and didn't figure it
out)
Csaba
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why does Linux / OSS community love mailing lists and hate news servers?
Date: 29 May 2001 13:46:07 GMT
On Tue, 29 May 2001 13:17:36 -0000,
Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>* wade blazingame wrote:
>> Threading is almost never
>> supported as well in mail clients as it is in news readers.
>
>Then you're using the wrong MUA.
>
>Mutt (http://www.mutt.org) and Gnus (was it http://www.gnus.org?) both
>thread very nicely.
>
How does it do this without In-Reply-To: headers or something similar?
Even if mutt or gnus generates those headers, that doesn't make every
other mail program do the same.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer)
Subject: Re: XTerm Question
Date: 29 May 2001 13:53:55 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florian Schmidt wrote:
>>In article <HuYO6.56753$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Buck
>>Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Sorry if this is a dumb question. Is there a way to run Xterm on a MS
>>> Windows machine, so I can access a linux machine running X, kinda like
>>> PC Anywhere or Reachout?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any replies.
>>
>>i once tried vnc to connect to a unix box (i don't remember which
>>flavor). it's very easy, if u have the right to start the vnc-server on
>>the unix side. once u got that done, u give the vnc-client the ipadress
>>of your unixbox, and off u go.. then u can open as many xterms as u want
>>on the remote side...
>
> sheesh, you really need to learn to spell "you"
>
> Also, there are X servers available for other OSen, for example eXceed by
> HummingBird (I _think_ I have the cases right there...) and I'm sure there
> are many others, probably even some free ones (eXceed isn't free, AFAIK)
>
> which you use depends on network bandwidth and where your spare CPU cycles
> reside (vnc uses more bandwidth and the server gets the CPU hit, remote X
Actually, on the whole, VNC uses less bandwidth, not more since
all it does is update the window, and it uses very efficient
algorithms to do that. For most processing it is faster. A lot
of the X traffic is involved with things that don't display
(cut & paste buffers, font access). For instance, over a
cable modem connection getting about .4 - .5 megabits download
and about .2 megabits upload, the menu cut, copy and paste in nedit
are virtually useless because they take so long. Under VNC they work
as expected.
There are some areas, like moving windows, where X is more
efficient.
--
Dan Mercer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> uses less bandwidth (especially if you use the compressed X protocol) and
> shifts some of the CPU hit to the client)
>
> HTH
> Cheers & God bless
> SammyTheSnake
Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turn off the warning message
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:59:32 +0200
gajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > I'm still learning linux so I'm almost always loging in as root, and this message
>is annoying
> cause
>>
>> Well don't! You can't learn linux by running as root! Use sudo. You'll
>> find it solves your problem.
> OK, how do I log in as sudo? Should I create a new account? What parameters should I
>set for that
You don't log in as sudo. It's a tool, not a user account.
> account (could you tell me step-by-step, cause I read man login and didn't figure it
>out)
Well try reading "man sudo" instead, which would seem to be the more
natural option!
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: "makewhatis" gives errors
Date: 29 May 2001 13:50:08 GMT
Tom Edelbrok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When I run makewhatis I now get the following errors that I never used to
>get:
>
>[root@blade init.d]# makewhatis
>Read file error: ./bunzip2.1 No such file or directory
>Read file error: ./bzcat.1 No such file or directory
>./bunzip2.1.gz: No such file or directory
>./bzcat.1.gz: No such file or directory
>
>Can anyone tell me what has caused this problem and how to fix it? The rest
>of my Redhat 6.0 system is working perfectly.
I would guess that bunzip2.1.gz and bzcat.1.gz (in /usr/share/man/man1,
/usr/man/man1, or /usr/local/man/man1) used to be symlinks to bzip2.1.gz
(or possibly likewise without the .gz). The bzip2 man page has gone (or
moved?), but the symlinks still remain.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Alles Vergaengliche / Ist nur ein Gleichnis;
Das Unzulaengliche / Hier wird's Ereignis;" - _Faust_, Goethe
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start an executable???
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:01:13 +0200
gajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> you are missing the error messages you got after you tried the various
>> commands above. How are we supposed to know what is wrong if u don't say
>> what happened when you made your attempts?
> OK, when I write /usr/tictac/tictac, usr/games/tictac or ./tictac I get the
>following message:
> bash: /usr/tictac/tictac: Cannot execute binary file
This seems to say that you are executing a script, and the script calls
something that doesn't exist. Please do
file /usr/tictac/tictac
and show us the result.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Move a partition up
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:20:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ester Ahoodem wrote:
>I have a 40gig drive with two partitions on it arranged as follows:
>8gigs
>32gigs
>
>I want to delete the 8gig partition and resize the 32gig partition to
>fill up the entire drive. I used parted to delete the 8gig partition
>but its resize command won't do anything with it when i try to resize
>it to the begining of the drive. The move command won't translate it
>upward either. What should I do?
If there are less than 8G of data in the 32G partition, you can
resize it to 8G, Copy it to the desired location, Delete the
old one, and resize the new one to 40G.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I need to discuss
at BUY-BACK PROVISIONS
visi.com with at least six studio
SLEAZEBALLS!!
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From: Richard Laskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kmix only works wothg root logged in
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:27:45 -0400
Diez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hi there
>I've the problem that kmix works really fine, when I startet my kde as
>root. But if I start kde as a normal user, I get a blank kmix window.
>I tried to copy the roots kmixrc file to the users config directory,
>but then kmix displays:
>
>Invalid Mixer "Sound Blaster" I've the same sound settings in both
>environments. Of course this is due to a wrong set permission. But I
>don't know which file is set wrong. the arts server and xmms works also
>on both environments, but as normal user I can't change the volume...
You might want to check the permissions of /dev/mixer, or other such
similar devices, as opposed to that of the apps you're running.
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From: chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM to let Linux fans use mainframe--for free
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:34:33 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When posting long URL's please adjust your line length so that they don't
>get fucked up
Spot the irony.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Kwrite for Gnome?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 May 2001 10:02:31 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
>LRW wrote:
>
>> I LOVE KDE's kwrite as a super-notepad; but I can't quite find something
>> like that in Gnome's applications. What I mean is, kwrite allows you to
>> change color tagging depending on what style you want--HTML, Pearl, C,
>> etc, and I LOVE that. But I can't find that feature in either of Gnome's
>> native word editers.
>>...
>In case you didn't quite get this from the other posts, you can run Kwrite
>in GNOME.
>
>I have Gno-RPM and Gedit running quite well in KDE.
>...
>
>> Oh, BTW, what are people's opinions between KDE and Gnome? Just
>> wondering. =)
>
>Haven't tried the newest version. Had problems with it when I installed
>Red Hat 6.1 so have always been a KDE user.
There seems to be some erroneous impressions floating about. "Gnome" is
a group of shared libraries, gtk being the principle one. "KDE" is a group
of shared libraries, qt being the principle one. Gnome applications
don't run "in" KDE. KDE apps don't run "in" Gnome. If you have both
shared libraries installed, you can run either Gnome apps or KDE apps.
The presence of one library does not prevent access to the other library.
Shared libraries provide functions to applications which dynamically link
to those functions at runtime.
"Desktops" are combinations of applications, the "governing" app being the
window-manager, and "applets" which usually require code in a window-manager
to be started, as they are not complete standalone applications of themselves.
Perhaps when one says "running a gnome app in KDE", they are saying "I use
the KDE window-manager, and I can still run a gnome app." But, of course,
given the one has the Gnome library available. Kinda like saying, "I use
the KDE desktop, but can still run Netscape (which uses the Motif library,
but was statically linked, so you don't need Motif separately installed).
Incidentally, with regard to "which is more stable", this would certainly
depend on which portions of the shared library were being invoked by which
applications. Improvements have occurred in the libraries over the past year
or two, so anything other than recent past experience is probably not relevant.
(I was recently working with RH 7.1 on machines with a particular built-in
graphics adapter, and I could crash the Xserver by certain mouse operations
using the KDE desktop, but the Gnome desktop did not show the same behavior.)
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Madrake 8.0 and Nvidia openGL
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:44:07 -0500
Hadn't read the article myself, but it is supposed to be a newbie guide to
getting this setup to work... See lots of posts about this subject and
thought this might help...
http://www.littlewhitedog.com/reviews_other_00022.asp
--
KW
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why does Linux / OSS community love mailing lists and hate news servers?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:34:41 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 29 May 2001 13:46:07 GMT...
...and Villy Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >* wade blazingame wrote:
> >> Threading is almost never
> >> supported as well in mail clients as it is in news readers.
> >
> >Then you're using the wrong MUA.
> >
> >Mutt (http://www.mutt.org) and Gnus (was it http://www.gnus.org?) both
> >thread very nicely.
>
> How does it do this without In-Reply-To: headers or something similar?
Heuristics. Message-ID, Date, Subject, the works. Mutt usually guesses
right.
mawa
--
At least in the US, the rate of increase for consumer indebtedness is
far higher than the rate of increase for gov't debt. The same people
who criticize the `gummint' for mismanaging funds are themselves
incompetent in the same matter. -- Michael Powe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:57:40 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 25 May 2001 12:45:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What's the linux variant for the groupware features
>what's that?
>> shared calendaring, global address books available offline etc.?
>If you want something that can keep your appointment, why you don't
>use an LDAP server? There are various LDAP available for Linux.
The problem here is that there are no solid clients available that integrate
into an LDAP framework that have the same power and flexibility as an Exchange
and Outlook combination.
Regards, Dustin
--
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Miles)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: tape backup malfunction
Date: 29 May 2001 14:59:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gary Krupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have an HP Colorado tape backup drive, linux 2.2.9. Before I was able to
>access any block on the tape just by issuing the command "mt -f /dev/nht0
>seek <block no.>". Now when I issue that command, the tape only advances to
>block no. 1. The tape will only advance one block at a time if I use a
>command such as eof. The command bsf will always rewind to block 0.
>Previously written starting blocks are inaccessible and therefore I can't
>access the data that I've already backed up to the tape.
>
>Has the tape been erased? Or are these read errors? I've just tried
>retensioning the tape a few times, with no effect. And I haven't erased the
>tape on my own. Does the drive need to be cleaned, or is it defective? I'd
>appreciate any advice offered. The security of my data is compromised.
Is there any possibility that the device minor number has been altered to
the rewinding instead of non-rewinding device number?
-frank
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Ashley)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Matrox AGB graphics card question: simple
Date: 29 May 2001 15:28:02 GMT
I am considering a matrox AGB card but I need to know the VGA character
modes supported. All cards support 80x25, but what else do the Matrox
cards support? Older Matrox cards would support 50x140 and stuff like that.
TIA
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From: nordi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Limit the user session time
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:25:36 +0200
joshua wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> We need to provide the visitors public PC with internet access,
> Can Linux do session time limit?
> I wish to provide them GUI logins, netscape browsing, telnet ,,,,,, but
> each user
> can have each session ( GUI login session ) for about 10 mins,
> Is it possible to do that?
Sure. Write a little script that checks if the user who's time you want to
limit has logged in (use the "users" command). Then wait ten minutes and
kill all the users processes (get a list of the processes by running "find
/proc -maxdepth 1 -user YOURVISITOR"). If you want, you can generate a
message box before you do that, just read one of the many tutorials on how
to do X-programming with Perl or the like, or just write the program in C.
nordi
--
Linux - Less bugs for less bucks!
Visit http://private.addcom.de/nordi
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From: "Wayne Osborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sensor module for via686 motherboard (K133A)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:30:20 +0800
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
> I did the same for an 8KTA3 mobo and various versions of the 2.4.*
> kernels, except that i2c is built in to 2.4, so I only had to fetch
> lm_sensors. IIRC, I just removed the lm_sensors RPM before installing
> the kit that I downloaded from the site that you mentioned.
>
Yeh, I removed the RPM lm_sensors too!
> Wayne, I'm curious about your expericenes with that mobo, though. I and
> a number of other people on linux-kernel have had nothing but trouble
> with it, and Alan Cox has all but given up on getting it fixed without a
> hint from VIA about what the problem is.
Look, to be honest, I built the system Friday and only installed Linux
saturday.
Initially, the system was loaded with Windows 95 (GRRRR) so as to play
with overclocking!!! Windows is good for some things! The machine would
not boot Windows reliably over 1.2Ghz, sometimes at 1.3Ghz, but rarely.
In desperation, I gave up overclocking and went on the Load Linux etc.
This was never intended to be a Windows box.
Anyway, it is now running at 1.5Ghz (10x150) running genome@home the CPU
is around 39c.
As of yet I can;t say I have experienced any problems under Linux, ONLY
WONDOZE, and thats gone now :)
Funny, only today did I find kernel notes regarding the VIA / 2.4
problems. Are the problems real? SHould I stay with the 2.2.16 kernel?
>
> Bobby Bryant
> Austin, Texas
--
Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
Registered Linux User #212818. [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
11:20pm up 3:03, 2 users, load average: 2.10, 2.12, 2.09
...It was kinda like stuffing the wrong card in a computer, when you're
stickin' those artificial stimulants in your arm.
-- Dion, noted computer scientist
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From: Claus Atzenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: manipulating /etc/passwd + /etc/group
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:34:49 +0200
Peter T. Breuer wrote on Dienstag, 29. Mai 2001 12:31:
> No, this is a (bad) redhatism. Usually, users will belong to larger
> groups, such as "students", "staff", etc. There is nothing wrong with
> having two users in the same group. It is even normal. That's the point
> of groups .. that they should contain more than one user.
I understand this. My problem was that any file had uid user1 and gid
user2. Meaning: the gid was a user, not actually a group of users. This is
what I didn't want.
Many greetings,
Claus
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From: "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to connect to internet in non-X
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:50:55 +0300
Reply-To: "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
hey guys,
thank u so much for all the posts you send. appreciate it very much. im
dead-beat busy right now with work and all. however, i make sure i try all
the tips u send. more power to you all!!!
eri
"girish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > im a linux newbie.
> >
> > have linux rh7 running in my dual-boot box. i cant work in X for my
display
> > is corrupted. have posted this in the newsgroup but unfortunately no
answer
> > for me. i like to connect to the net in non-Xterm but dont know how. i
want
> > to use pine to send/receive email. can anyone give any link or howto to
> > configure my modem to connect to the net? thanks in advance. more power
to
> > linux !
> >
> > eri
>
> Here are the stpes involved in dialling to ur isp,just follow up this
steps and
> u will be on line....I am currently using this script ..
>
> To connect to ISP you will need the following things
>
> 1. Username and password
> 2. Port on which ur Modem works fine.(generally it is on /dev/cua0
> or /dev/ttys0
>
> Follwing scripts are to be kept in /etc/ppp directory only
>
> ##1## SCRIPT NAME:ispdial #########
> #1234567 is number to be dialed to isp
> TIMEOUT 5
> "" ATZ
> OK ATDT1234567
> ABORT "NO CARRIRE"
> ABORT BUSY
> ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
> ABORT WAITING
> TIMEOUT 45
> CONNECT " "
> TIMEOUT 5
>
> This script is used for Dialing to ISP
>
> ###2### SCRIPT NAME:dial
> exec pppd connect \
> 'chat -v -f /etc/ppp/ispdial' \
> -detach crtscts modem defaultroute \
> user tilspz@bom4 \
> /dev/cua0 38400
>
> This script is used to invoke the pppd daemon which in turn calls the
> dialler script which dials to ISP and password is picked up from
> /etc/ppp/pap-secrets or /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
>
>
> The pap-secrets or chap-secrets is modified in following manner
>
> # Secrets for authentication using PAP
> # client server secret IP addresses
> zebra * abc2001
>
> This file contains ur ISP accounts username and password.
>
>
> Now after following above steps u need to do the following to start
> connecting to ISP
> 1. sh dial
>
> This will connect to ISP ,once u see the IP address of ISP it means its
> connected..
> To disconnect use CTRL+C command..
>
> Thats it ......U r on Super Highway of Information..
>
>
> Cheers
> !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Girish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: manipulating /etc/passwd + /etc/group
Date: 29 May 2001 16:04:52 GMT
In <9eveqb$a5f$06$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Claus Atzenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
]Michael Heiming wrote on Dienstag, 29. Mai 2001 00:37:
]>> I realized that I have gid 501 at /etc/group for 2 users.
]>> This is probably done by accident.
]>
]> That's what groups are for,do you mix UID and GID?
]Sure. But usually every user hat its default group. I had 2 users using 1
]group. This is what I had:
]In /etc/group steht:
] ane:x:501:
] claus:x:501:
There is nothing wrong with this. It says tht two different groups have the same
group id. The operating system only uses the number, not the name. You can give the
group any name(s) you want.
You can also put as many users into a group you want ( in fact that is what it is
for. To give each user their own group is silly. YOu already have the user
permissions to do that)
groupname:x:550:user1,user2,user3,....
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From: "Floyd L. Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why does Linux / OSS community love mailing lists and hate news servers?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 08:01:03 -0800
"pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Floyd L. Davidson" wrote:
> > I prefer XEmacs and read news and mail with GNUS. The problems
> > being described for mailing lists simply do not exist. There simply is
> > no difference between the way I read email and the way I read Usenet.
> >
> > OK?
>
> Is the threading problem ( esp on klm ) caused by Netscape ? I would not
> be surprised - It does however not have a problem with NG's.
I just cannot imagine actually using Netscape to either read news or
email.
With GNUS all of my email is sorted and archived individual spool files
much as they would be on a news server. News is fetched from the
server and email is fetched from the spool files. The user interface is
identical, with the exception that it is possible to actually delete an
email
from a spool file, which can't be done of course with a news article on
a remote server. It happens that I sort my email by priorities, and some
groups are not visible unless I go looking for them while others (e.g.,
email from family members) is flagged with text in red when unread mail
exists.
Digests, whether on Usenet or email, can also be viewed as if each were
an individual article.
--
Floyd L. Davidson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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