Linux-Misc Digest #979, Volume #19 Wed, 28 Apr 99 23:13:11 EDT
Contents:
novice Q about setting up Real Audio (John Kieraldo)
cron job backup to cd-rw? (Alex Lam)
How to run Trident 3DImage975 -based videocards (Andrew Comech)
Unresolved Symbol (Michael)
Re: Distribution (Alex Lam)
Unresolved Symbol (Michael)
Kinda off-topic: keyboard mapping ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: Linux Sucks as a Java Server, comments??? (Philip Brown)
Re: want fvwm back, now it is kde when I type startx ("Drew Northup")
Re: LS-120 (Dave Spensley)
Re: A queston of fonts (brian moore)
Re: ps and pdf plugins for Linux (Gerald Willmann)
[Help] If >> appends/suffixes, what prepends/prefixes? (Sandra Loosemore)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Kieraldo)
Subject: novice Q about setting up Real Audio
Date: 29 Apr 1999 01:22:36 GMT
As a novice using Linux for fun on an extra PC at my work, I'm having
setting Real Audio as an app that launches from within the Netscape
browser. I've got Acrobat and WordPerfect as apps that launch from
Netscape. One problem (for me) was that the latest Real Player available
for RedHat Linux installed without an install script (like the one
Netscape 4.51 installed with).
Any words of help would be appreciated. Please reply to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, thanks.
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cron job backup to cd-rw?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:27:00 -0700
Hi,
How can I, or is there any way to do a cron job to back up to
CD-RW?
Thanks.
Alex Lam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: How to run Trident 3DImage975 -based videocards
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Apr 1999 17:23:32 -0500
Hi,
Many people complained they could not run videocards with Trident
3DImage975 (9750) chipset at decent resolutions (usually, the screen
just remained black at something like 1024x768).
I also spent some time on a Jaton videocard with this chipset, and now
I can squeeze any resolution out of it (up to 1200x1024), with decent
color depths:
bpp/resolution 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1152x864 1200x1024
8 * * * * *
16 * * * * *
24 * * * - -
32 * * * - -
The recipe is kind-of simple, but strange: one needs to use _particular_
orders of resolutions in the "Modes" line. (I did not touch Modelines.)
The details are at
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/3DImage975.html
If you have time and need to try this recipe, I'd appreciate to hear
from you whether this (or some modification) solves your problems with
this chipset.
Hope this will help someone,
Andrew
PS. I guess this would also work for 3DImage985 chipset... I do not know.
PPS. for personal answers, please finger out my login name.
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From: Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unresolved Symbol
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:21:26 GMT
Hi,
I have installed RedHat 5.0 (Kernel-2.0.32) and it works fine. Now, I
need to support my Creative Lab Sound Blaster 16 ASP sound card. The
installation does not have sound card installed by default so I will
have to rebuild my kernel (2.0.32). Okay, that's fine for me., as I know
how to compile kernel. Below is the steps I do to go about it:
1. cd /usr/src
2. cp /root/linux-2.0.32.tar.gz
3. tar -xvzf linux-2.0.32.tar.gz
4. cd linux
5. make mrproper
6. make menuconfig (selected the sound card module SB16)
7. make dep
8. make clean
9. make zImage
10. make zdisk
11. make zlilo
12. make modules
13. make modules_install
14. cd /
15. mv vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32 (Overwrite comfirmation = YES)
16 mv System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.32 (Overwrite comfirmation = YES)
17. cd /boot
18. ls -lg
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Apr 29 02:42 System.map ->
System.map-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 99083 Apr 29 04:43 System.map-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Apr 29 02:43 boot.0300
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4536 May 8 1998 boot.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 May 8 1998 chain.b
-rw------- 1 root root 11264 Apr 29 04:44 map
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Apr 29 02:42 module-info ->
module-info-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11773 Nov 19 1997
module-info-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 308 May 8 1998 os2_d.b
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Apr 29 02:42 vmlinuz ->
vmlinuz-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 428928 Apr 29 04:43 vmlinuz-2.0.32
19. /sbin/lilo (Just in case)
*Notice that there is a default link to module-info-2.0.32 (This is done
during the installation and NOT when I rebuild my kernel) .
Question:
1. Do I still need that module-info --> module-info-2.0.32 link?
2. Is it safe if I remove that link?
3. I got this problem when rebooting:
/lib/modules/2.0.32/misc/uart401.o :unresolved symbol
sound_unload_mididev_R93be66c8
.
.
.
(and many other unresolved symbols related to sound modules)
Okay, after the booting, I login as root and type 'sndconfig' and it
says I have not sound module(s) installed.
Why is that so?
Hope you guys (Experts) out there could figure out these problems.
Any help would be very much appreciated. Many thanks in advance.
From,
Michael
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Distribution
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:39:11 -0700
Eric wrote:
> I'm a newbie to linux, but from what little experience I have I say this:
> RedHat is a nice distro, but configuring is harder given somewhat unorthodox
> file locations. Also, rpm is great for installing, but upgrading and
> uninstalling is a pain, especially libraries. I'm considering switching to
> Debian. any comments?
I vote for SuSE. Got my SuSE 6.0 installed and connected to my adsl and running
in under 45 minutes installed from CD-ROM.
Detected everything in the first run. You can use Yast to reconfig anything
anytime with ease.
But try to read the menu, and all the how-tos before you start. It looks bad,
but it's pretty easy.
6.1 is coming in May2.
Alex Lam.
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From: Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unresolved Symbol
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:27:22 GMT
Hi,
I have installed RedHat 5.0 (Kernel-2.0.32) and it works fine. Now, I
need to support my Creative Lab Sound Blaster 16 ASP sound card. The
installation does not have sound card installed by default so I will
have to rebuild my kernel (2.0.32). Okay, that's fine for me., as I know
how to compile kernel. Below is the steps I do to go about it:
1. cd /usr/src
2. cp /root/linux-2.0.32.tar.gz
3. tar -xvzf linux-2.0.32.tar.gz
4. cd linux
5. make mrproper
6. make menuconfig (selected the sound card module SB16)
7. make dep
8. make clean
9. make zImage
10. make zdisk
11. make zlilo
12. make modules
13. make modules_install
14. cd /
15. mv vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32 (Overwrite comfirmation = YES)
16 mv System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.32 (Overwrite comfirmation = YES)
17. cd /boot
18. ls -lg
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Apr 29 02:42 System.map ->
System.map-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 99083 Apr 29 04:43 System.map-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Apr 29 02:43 boot.0300
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4536 May 8 1998 boot.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 May 8 1998 chain.b
-rw------- 1 root root 11264 Apr 29 04:44 map
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Apr 29 02:42 module-info ->
module-info-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11773 Nov 19 1997
module-info-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 308 May 8 1998 os2_d.b
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Apr 29 02:42 vmlinuz ->
vmlinuz-2.0.32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 428928 Apr 29 04:43 vmlinuz-2.0.32
19. /sbin/lilo (Just in case)
*Notice that there is a default link to module-info-2.0.32 (This is done
during the installation and NOT when I rebuild my kernel) .
Question:
1. Do I still need that module-info --> module-info-2.0.32 link?
2. Is it safe if I remove that link?
3. I got this problem when rebooting:
/lib/modules/2.0.32/misc/uart401.o :unresolved symbol
sound_unload_mididev_R93be66c8
.
.
.
(and many other unresolved symbols related to sound modules)
Okay, after the booting, I login as root and type 'sndconfig' and it
says I have not sound module(s) installed.
Why is that so?
Hope you guys (Experts) out there could figure out these problems.
Any help would be very much appreciated. Many thanks in advance.
From,
Michael
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kinda off-topic: keyboard mapping
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:38:56 -0400
Ehh... this really isn't Linux related, but I was hoping that some of
the hardware-level gurus that have saved me in the past might be able to
easily spot what's going on here...
I had to go out to an office today to look at a tiny little DOS-based
program that running in someone's new computer (they just copied it over
from the old one that this is replacing). On their old computer, they could
use <shift><tab> to move backwards through fields... on the new one this
doesn't work.
I took a copy of the program (the entire thing fits on a floppy) and
brought it back to my office... the <shift><tab> works on every machine I
tried it on: Win95, Win98, and DOSEMU on my Linux box. The only machine
that it DOESN'T work on is that particular new machine.
For the hell of it, I tried a keyboard that it HAD worked with on the
new machine... and it still didn't work. Of course, there's nothing in CMOS
that seems to have any bearing... anyone have any clue what I might be
missing here?
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: Linux Sucks as a Java Server, comments???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Apr 1999 00:54:22 GMT
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:16:08 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>It was the 27 Apr 1999 23:08:40 GMT...
>..and Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> No, java IS AWT, plus I/O libs, plus...
>
>Nope. Java is the minimal VM, since even a smart card running embedded
>Java still runs Java even though it's got neither AWT nor terminal
>i/o.
no, "The java VM" is "the minimal VM".
Granted, sun was stupid with quasi-redundant naming. But to use yet another
example, if someone says "I program in java", the actual meaning of that
statement is "I use the java language specification, to program for
a runtime environment that includes AWT, ....."
If someone is making comments about the language portion of java, then that
is properly refered to as "the java language specification".
Just because people get sloppy about what they write in postings, doesn't make
it true.
Now, for the be-all-end-all DEFINITIVE ANSWER, so people will quit
arguing incorrectly with me:
Go to www.javasoft.com. You know, the PEOPLE WHO WROTE JAVA, AND ARE
CURRENTLY IN CHARGE OF IT.
Follow the link on the bottom left, named funnily enough, "What is java?"
You will then come across a lot of words generally prefaced with
"The Java PLATFORM is..."
Also referenced is "java technology", which is another way of saying
"the java language, compiler, jvm, classes, ....."
Granted, there are subsets of the full java platform, like "embedded java",
that don't have AWT. But you'll note that
1. this is almost always then referred to as "embedded java", not just
"java"
2. it is STILL not just referring to the java language specification.
"embedded java" refers to using the 'java language spec' to produce
'java bytecode' which can then be run by a 'java runtime'
which has a 'java VM' which must also have the subset of 'java classes'
appropriate.
I use the single-quotes to denote that while 'java' looks like a separate
word, it is meant to be used as a single unit with the rest of the words.
'java bytecode' is not the same thing as saying "java means bytecode".
So, as I hope I have demonstrated once and for all, whenever you start
a sentance with "Java is..." you had better be referring to the entire
java platform, or you're just plain wrong.
Microsloth would much rather Java be "just a language". or "just a VM".
But it's not. It's a PLATFORM.
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From: "Drew Northup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: want fvwm back, now it is kde when I type startx
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:20:22 GMT
I have no idea about your specific setup, but I have edited the startx
script before to change which gui it brings up. I would guess that the line
"exec fvwm2" got commented out when you added KDE. Try uncommenting it.
Drew Northup, N1XIM
Joern Smock wrote:
>> I have installed KDE. Now when I type startx, KDE is launched. I don't
>> want that. I want to use fvwm. Typing startx fvwm doesn't help. How do I
>> get fvwm back?
>> Please reply to my email address.
Sorry about the email thing but it was chopped off
DN
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Spensley)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LS-120
Date: 29 Apr 1999 02:31:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aaron Ginn wrote:
>>
>> Dave Spensley wrote:
>>
>> > Try these things, preferably all at once:
>> >
>> > Make your CD-ROM (presumably set as Secondary IDE Master) a
>> > secondary-IDE slave;
>> >
>> > Make your IDE LS-120 the Secondary-IDE master;
>>
>> > Have these two lines in your /etc/fstab:
>> >
>> > /dev/ls120 /mnt/ls120 auto user,noauto,rw,exec 0 0
>> > /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I'm a little unsure as to how to do these. Do I need to make these
>> changes in the BIOS settings, or does the order in the /etc/fstab
>> determine secondary IDE slave/master status? Another person had
>> encountered similar problems with the LS-120, and he suggested that I
>> need to change my BIOS to autodetect all IDE devices. Is this similar
>> to what you are suggesting?
>>
>
>
>JIC Dave doesnt reply, he means first change the physical jumpers on
>the back of the devices as shown in the handbook or the label on the
>drive. But otherwise you're right autodetect is a good idea
>
>AFAIK fstab picks up the order from the BIOS: the auto command therein
>merely allows different file formats to be detected without specific
>mounts (dont all rush to squash me if Im wrong)
>
Thanks, Dan -- as he wrote, yes, you must change the jumpers on the devices
to make them Secondary-Master and Secondary-Slave as written above.
I left-out a couple of details, though. In my "/dev" directory, I
made links (as root) of "/dev/hdc" to "/dev/ls120" and "/dev/hdd" to
"/dev/cdrom". If you don't have these links, the /etc/fstab lines above
should actually read:
/dev/hdc /mnt/ls120 auto user,noauto,rw,exec 0 0
/dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
"/etc/fstab" doesn't rely directly on the BIOS. The four IDE drives are
mapped as:
Primary IDE, Master --> /dev/hda
Primaru IDE, Slave --> /dev/hdb
Secondary IDE, Master --> /dev/hdc
Secondary IDE, Slave --> /dev/hdd
The LS-120 likes to be the master. I hope this helps.
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"I bought the Star Trek chess set and the Civil War chess set.
O- Now I have the South fight the Klingons." O-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: A queston of fonts
Date: 28 Apr 1999 22:28:28 GMT
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:24:41 -0700,
HAL@Discovery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking to expand my collecton of fonts that came with
> the RH5.2 I installed. However, I am completely
> unaware as to how fonts and an os work together.
Well, the font's don't have much to do with the OS: they have much to do
with X, which is just a big application.
> Can I just download any font??
> Or is there a utility that I need to use?
type1inst is very useful. Hit Altavista for the location.
> Also, can someone point me to a site where I
> can get some fonts ?
cdrom.com has a pile of them in their OS/2 collection. (OS/2 also uses
Postscript Type1 fonts.)
> The Gimp is great but I cannot find the fonts it has
> listed in its' scriptfues.
Check the Gimp's ftp site for 'freefont' and 'sharefont'.
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ps and pdf plugins for Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:37:57 -0700
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Neil Zanella wrote:
> I would like people to be able to view ps and pdf documents at my website
> by clicking on the browser links pointing to those documents. Does this
> require a netscape plugin of some sort. Both servers and client
> computers are Linux/Unix based.
pdf: I use acroread as a plugin but you can also use it as a helper
application and alternatives would be xpdf and gv or ghostview
ps: gv works great for these
Gerald
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Subject: [Help] If >> appends/suffixes, what prepends/prefixes?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sandra Loosemore)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:38:42 GMT
I have written a script and would like to add characters to the beginning
of a file (prepend) instead of suffixing (append/suffix).
Part of my script:
echo 'w 1' >> file1
This tacks w 1 to the end of file1.
I want to add w 1 to the beginning of the text of file1.
How do I do this?
Thanks.
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