Linux-Misc Digest #979, Volume #27 Tue, 29 May 01 16:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Limit the user session time (Sean)
Re: Turn off the warning message ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: linux ("Jay")
Re: how to connect to internet in non-X ("Jay")
Please help me get WIN98 back!! ("Somphong K")
Re: Changing Screen res in KDE on Suse 7.0 (RHC)
Re: How to start an executable??? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: How To Share Network Connections Among 3 Machines? ('Dungeon' Dave)
Re: PNP OS (BIOS setting) ("kyi")
Re: Turn off the warning message (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: kmix only works wothg root logged in (michael james obrien)
Re: quakeworld ("kyi")
Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ? (Gareth Jones)
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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Limit the user session time
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:13:35 +0100
nordi wrote:
<snip>
> If you want, you can generate a
> message box before you do that, just read one of the many tutorials on how
> to do X-programming with Perl or the like, or just write the program in C.
>
or use xmessage to generate the message.
Sean
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turn off the warning message
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:10:07 +0200
gajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> gajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Well try reading "man sudo" instead, which would seem to be the more
>> natural option!
> man sudo does not exists (at least in RH 6). Could you tell me how to use sudo,
>cause I've been
Then you have to install it.
> searching the HOWTOs and FAQs for two hours now and have found nothing yet...
It is far less work to simply install it, and read the man page (or
just run it!).
> Also, if I type in "sudo" nothing happens, that is I get an error message
Is that surprising? If I try and take money out of my bank account, I
get an error message too! Both of us have to put something in before we
can get something out.
Peter
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From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:21:09 GMT
Actually I had a Slackware Linux 1.0 Cd that I evidently recently got rid
of. It never supported my SCSI cd so never was installed. I dated myself
but I agree with you entirely.
Linux the open system (as in free) is poised to replace Windows, if the
Linux development community can improve on the simplicity of installation,
improve the user interfaces, support Win based documents natively, and port
killer PC games on the average pc (i.e., 586, 64mb, 2.6mg). Otherwise it
might slide into the background with OS/2, Unix and Solarius and that would
be a real shame.
"william" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Jeff wrote:
> > When I wrote my question, I did not think anyone would pay any attention
> to my ravings. I was very serious about trying to install Linux. I think
> I was very naive when the people on Tech TV kept saying " what a piece of
> cake" it was to install
> Thanks for the reply
> > I'll assume, perhaps incorrectly, that this is a serious post, and not a
> > troll...
> >
> > Linux is a very powerful and sophisticated system that, though it
becomes
> > more approachable with each new distro and release, still requires fair
> > amounts of technical expertise and experience to install and exploit.
> It is
> > certainly not for everyone, and it sounds like it may not be for you.
> You
> > don't _have_ to use Linux. You don't have to prove anything.
> >
> > Linux is great. I like it and use it for a number of different things.
> But
> > Windows (especially 2000 Pro) is also a very capable system that I like
> and
> > use. Many folks will never know anything except Windows, and stiil get
> > everything they need out of their computing experience.
> >
> > If Windows satisfies your needs, and you have no desire to grow
> technically,
> > to learn, and to get past the "simple Type a:\install" mindset then
> probably
> > you should not be considering Linux.
> >
> > -jeff
> >
> > "william" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Does anyone out there know of a linux that is not made for nerds and
> > geeks?
> > > I've trying for a month to install corel and as a last resort
zipslack.
> > > If linux is so great and powerful why hasen't some smart guy did what
> > gates
> > > did and start out with a Linux 1.0 like the win3.1 which was a piece
of
> > > cake to install. Put the disks in drive a:\ and type setup.
> > > But no, they had to make hard so the comp geeks can have ball sitting
> in
> > > front of their comp for 12 hrs.
> > >
> > > I mean, is it such a big deal for all these comp buffs to make a
simple
> > > Type a:\install or setup?
> > >
> > > All I hear about is what a great OS linux is. If somebody wanted to
> make
> > > gates squirm just a tiny bit why didn't they follow what he did and
> make
> > > it easy for the common folk to install Linux.
> > > Thank You
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > > http://www.help.com/
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to connect to internet in non-X
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:21:09 GMT
Sorry NG,
I was away and now you're away, but I hope this will help. Without
X-windows you're missing all the fun. The X-problem is generic although
I'm still not sure of the exact nature of the problem.
As root you should run Xconfigurator or XF86Setup. This will use the
driver for your video card. The setup should then ask you to select your
monitor. Select Generic Monitor. It should test your setup and select the
best for display for your configuration. My monitor is an AcerView 76e but
it works best with the Generic Multisync driver.
If you have trouble running XConfigurator or XF86Setup then you'll need to
reinstall your XFree86 rpms. CD to your installation CD and use rpm -Fvh
X*
Oh and post your status.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > hi jay,
> >
> > thanks for your reply.
> >
> > "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:tpiQ6.3243$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > Plz repost the X-display problem for another try.
> > ok i will repost this again.
> >
> > >Meanwhile have you made another user and tried X for that user?
> > yeah the corruption is still there even if i login as non-root. the
problem
> > is common and the only way i could see things is refresh the window.
> >
> > >Can you make X window work with generic display and monitor drivers?
> >
> > i havent tried this yet. how do i do this anyway?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > im a linux newbie.
> > > >
> > > > have linux rh7 running in my dual-boot box. i cant work in X for my
> > > display
> ...<snip>...
> Does redhat come with the utility XF86Setup? I've always found that to
> be the easiest way to set up X-windows. It's graphical (without using
> X-windows), and has sections for mouse, keyboard, graphics card, monitor,
> and modes. You need specifications for your monitor, (horizontal freq.
> range, vertical freq. range), and what kind of graphics card you're
> using.(lspci as root should tell you that.)
> --
> Replace ragwind.localdomain with rahul for a working email address
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From: "Somphong K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Please help me get WIN98 back!!
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:22:12 -0400
During this Memorial weekend, I installed Redhat 7.1 (Kernel 2.4.2-2)
on my PC at home. Win98 is on IDE drive/A and Rh7.1 completely on IDE
drive/B. I did not realize at the time that part of linux, such as /boot
partition, had to be on drive/A to use LILO.
During graphic installation,I was prompted where to put LILO i.e. in MBR
or linux drive's boot partition. Unfortunately I decided to avoid fooling
with MBR and opted for the later.
The lilo installation ended up with failure. Everything else went fine.
I created boot diskette. I then realized I was no longer able to boot
Win98. Everybody in my household jumped on me!! My wife wanted to search
webs about her stock investment, my kid wanted to play starcraft with his
folks, ....
I hoped to restore MBR by executing 'fdisk /MBR' under MSDOS but I was
surprised to learn that all my Windows rescue and MSDOS diskettes failed
to even boot. PC tried to boot from the floppies but hang after reading/
loading a few blocks.
When I mounted on to /dev/hda1, I could see that all Win98 directories
and files were still intact. I just do not know why drive/A broke when I
tried my best < which was obviously not good enough :-( > not to disturb
its MBR.
I would appreciate any advice that can pull me out of this mess.
1) What corruptions on drive/A and how to restore it??
2) I configured lilo to boot either linux and win98 but the later never
came up - it hang just like when I booted off diskettes. Could you
offer me a copy of /etc/lilo.conf to compare. My copy is at home.
3) I configured printer OK but not my sound card (Turtle Beach Montogo II
and Altec Lansing 495). sndconfig autoprobe concluded it was Altec
ADA305 and mentioned it is not supported by Linux yet. I tried without
probe but there were only 2 Turtle Beach choices and my Montego II was
not ont the list. I tried both and they all ended up in errors.
Does it mean I'm out of luck as far as sound card is concerned?
4) Does Linux support HP 6200C scanner?? If affirmative, how?
5) I have MSN connection which I usually use their 'MSN Internet Access'
tool to connect. Could and how I connect to MSN from Linux??
Please asnwer to my e-mail address. Thanks for kind assistance.
Rgds somphong
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From: RHC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing Screen res in KDE on Suse 7.0
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:30:04 -0000
Ctrl Alt + seems to "zoom" in but it doesn't (as far as I can tell) change
the resolution so I can get more objects (icons etc) on the screen.
Any other ideas?
TIA
RHC
Dave Uhring wrote:
>
> RHC wrote:
>
> > I am new to KDE... how do I change the screen resolution from 800x600
to
> > 1024 x 800 (or whatever) from within KDE? DO I need to reconfigure my
X
> > server? Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > THANX
> >
> > RHC
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
> >
>
> Did you try Ctl-Alt-+ ?
>
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start an executable???
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:17:45 +0200
gajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > OK, when I write /usr/tictac/tictac, usr/games/tictac or ./tictac I get the
>following message:
>> > bash: /usr/tictac/tictac: Cannot execute binary file
>>
>> This seems to say that you are executing a script, and the script calls
>> something that doesn't exist. Please do
>>
>> file /usr/tictac/tictac
>>
>> and show us the result.
> the result is:
> /usr/tictac/tictac: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC)
> I have no idea what this means.. :)
It's what it says. ZMAGIC? I don't think I've seen that in a long
while. It's a particular kind of executable (starts with 0314, which
appears to be "space" "new line", so maybe it's a script!). What does
ls -l /usr/tictac/tictac
say? I want to know if it is excutable.
Would you also try:
head -12c < /usr/tictac/tictac | od -a
thanks.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:21:11 +0200
Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> What's the linux variant for the groupware features
>>what's that?
> The features (for example, in Exchange, or in Lotus Notes), that allow
> a user to maintain a calendar, share that calendar with various other
> users (e.g. a PA), and have it available when they are offline too.
An offline calandar is useless, surely? It's not up to date.
And I have no trouble doing this .. file sharing has been here forever.
If you want to share a file that represents a calandar, fine
(put it on coda if you want offline access, but I honestly don't
see the point).
Peter
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:28:48 +0100
From: 'Dungeon' Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: 'Dungeon' Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How To Share Network Connections Among 3 Machines?
.. and it came to pass that Tim Haynes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered forth:
>
>Would you care to elucidate why one woul not want two cards on one
>network
>and why it would be so fundamentally wrong to do so?
>
If your Linux server wanted to go to the network 192.168.1.0, which
interface would it pick: eth1 or eth2?
--
"Dungeon" Dave, in anti-harvest mode...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "kyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PNP OS (BIOS setting)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:46:06 -0700
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It is recommended that you set it to "off". Windows will still
recongnize new hardware installed in the machine.
- -Jayson Garrell
Claus Atzenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9f078g$btq$03$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I had to install Linux on a Computer were also Windoze is
> installed. With lilo you can choose between Linux and Windoze.
>
> Is it better to switch off or on PNP (Plug&Play) OS at the BIOS
> settings??
>
> Claus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Turn off the warning message
Date: 29 May 2001 19:05:37 GMT
gajo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ OK, how do I log in as sudo? Should I create a new account? What parameters should I
set for that
[ account (could you tell me step-by-step, cause I read man login and didn't figure it
out)
During the install did it not ask you to create a root account AND a user
account? What name did you give the user account, you should be logging
in as that username. Then, use sudo (or su command) to do root-type stuff.
Otherwise, use the admin tools to create a user account. See if you have
linuxconf or some tool that lets you "adduser"
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (michael james obrien)
Subject: Re: kmix only works wothg root logged in
Date: 29 May 2001 19:53:47 GMT
: I've the problem that kmix works really fine, when I startet my kde as
root. : But if I start kde as a normal user, I get a blank kmix window. :
I tried to copy the roots kmixrc file to the users config directory, but :
then kmix displays: : Invalid Mixer "Sound Blaster" : I've the same sound
settings in both environments. Of course this is due to : a wrong set
permission. But I don't know which file is set wrong. : the arts server
and xmms works also on both environments, but as normal : user I can't
change the volume...
Have you given rw priveledges to all for /dev/mixer?
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From: "kyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: quakeworld
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:53:21 -0700
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You are going about it all wrong. Goto
http://quakeforge.sourceforge.net and download there source. As for
extracting the files from the cdrom, install lha. Since you run
debian do a "apt-get install lha", then cd to your quake driectory
and do a "lha e /cdrom/resource.1" that will extract all of the quake
files from the cdrom. Then just compile the source from quakeforge
and copy the binaries to your quake directory. Quakeforge comes with
the binaries to play quake on svga glx or x11.
- -Jayson Garrell
SammyTheSnake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I'm having some 'fun' trying to get quakeworld to work propperly.
> Having used wine and a lot of weird fiddling to extract the .pak
> files from the quake CD and successfully installed the svga and x11
> versions of quakeforge (from .deb packages, I use debian) I now
> have the following problems:
>
> 1) qw-client-svga doesn't grok my mouse, I've edited
> /etc/vga/libvga.conf a squillion times, specifying the correct
> mouse type and device, I've tried using the repeater function of
> gpm, I've tried killing X, I've tried killing gpm, I've tried
> specifying gpm as the mouse type. Whatever I do, svga quake always
> claims "no mouse found" with no more info...
>
> 2) qw-client-x11 groks the mouse, but is buggery slow (overheads
> and such) I don't really want to run it in its own X server at a
> more friendly resolution, though that option is looking a little
> more tempting... The main problem is that whenever I press a mouse
> button, the game pauses! I try to jump and it only works if I'm
> standing still, I can only fire a single shot at a time because all
> the time my mouse button is pressed, the rest of the players can
> just blow me up!
>
> has anyone here had more success and less fun than me with these?
>
> I'm guessing that the svgalib problem is trivial to sort out if you
> just happen to know what I'm doing wrong, but I don't! grr!
>
> some further info...
> gpm correctly detects and interfaces with my mouse, type ms, device
> file /dev/mouse and also correctly exports it again as /dev/gpmdata
> type ms again. X then correctly picks this up and uses it.
>
> TIAFAH
> Cheers & God bless
> SammyTheSnake
> --
> Sam.Penny @ Ntlworld.com | Looking for a computer
> related Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can
> help, e-mail me :) Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o
> \/ Working on 3-5 ball tricks Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 &
> Nx486 | \__/\ 6 balls and 7/8-ball exercises
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From: Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft exchange server under Linux ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:07:32 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>>Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> What's the linux variant for the groupware features
>>>what's that?
>
>> The features (for example, in Exchange, or in Lotus Notes), that allow
>> a user to maintain a calendar, share that calendar with various other
>> users (e.g. a PA), and have it available when they are offline too.
>
>An offline calandar is useless, surely? It's not up to date.
It is partly up to date.
>And I have no trouble doing this ..
Good for you. Not terribly relevant though. The question is whether or
not the feature set of MS Exchange can be matched by opensource
software, not whether or not you can conduct your life without
groupware.
>file sharing has been here forever.
So it has, and presumably when it was introduced, there were people
who couldn't see the point, because after all, what were floppies for?
(btw: do you think we should abandon email protocols like smtp and
imap? perhaps we should go back to the days when email folders were
only accessed using file sharing protocols?).
Gareth
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