Linux-Misc Digest #159, Volume #20 Tue, 11 May 99 21:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help! Null modem and pppd (Michael McConnell)
10baseT-FD Tulip (Homer Wilson Smith)
RH5.2 and lpr/lpd problem (Alexej Jerschow)
Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (Rob Komar)
Re: making linux go away (DanH)
Re: vmware: dga and tools problems (jmsalvo)
Re: an alias for cd to set PS1=pwd (Johan Kullstam)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Richard
Kulisz)
Re: Xfig can't fit!! (Brian V. Smith)
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (Sam Holden)
Re: Redhat Sparc wants 150M Smaller needed! (Bill Unruh)
2.2.x Kernel woes (Mike Roessing)
Re: RedHat price... ("(BXTC)")
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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! Null modem and pppd
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:52:48 +0100
On Tue, 11 May 1999, Frank Waarsenburg wrote:
> > Lets call Box A (192.168.1.1) the 486 box with a 28.8k modem on com2.
> > Lets call box B (192.168.1.2) the notebook box.
>
> Mmmm.... Are you SURE your netmasks are OK? Since both machines are on the
> same network, they may not want to route at all....
SHouldn't be a problem. I pulled the same trick myself not so long ago.
Missed the start of the thread, and Dejanews is dead slow from here.....so
no idea what the underlying problem is.
-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell [Red Hat 6.0 Available!]
Eridani Star System -- The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.amush.cx/linux/ Fax: +44-8701-600807
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Wilson Smith)
Subject: 10baseT-FD Tulip
Date: 11 May 1999 20:12:14 -0500
Running 2.0.36 with Kingston Tulip Ethernet.
How do I get Kingston card to use 10baseT Full Duplex mode
with the Cisco 1900 Switch it is plugged into?
Answers by private mail appreciated.
Thanks Homer
--
========================================================================
Homer Wilson Smith The paths of lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 cross in Internet Access, Ithaca NY
[EMAIL PROTECTED] the line of duty. http://www.lightlink.com
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From: Alexej Jerschow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RH5.2 and lpr/lpd problem
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:25:34 -0700
Hi, I have an ECP/LPT1 device (through /dev/lp1), which works fine after
I issue:
tunelp /dev/lp1 -i 7
to get the IRQ right.
I can now print text via: cat fname > /dev/lp1
However doing so with lpr does not work, error message:
lpr: connect: No such file or directory
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
However, lpd is running, and what's more strange is that I have two lpd
processes running. Now sometimes printing works when I delete the lpd
processes and restart one. I also compiled the lp code directly into the
kernel and the same thing happened. 1) Why do I have two lpd's running ?
(I tried to track it down in the init files and it seemed that lpd would
only be started once) 2) Why do I get this strange error message ? 3)
How can I establish a correctly working lpd without tweaking around
every time ? Where in the init files should I put appropriate commands
4) Furthermore, even though I see that lpd is started in the boot
message on the screen, it is not logged to the file: /var/log/dmesg, any
suggestions ?
Thank you
Alexej Jerschow
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Komar)
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: 11 May 1999 18:09:28 GMT
Rob Fisher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: I know Linux has greater stability and less overheads than NT. But I
: also know that it doesn't run Word or Excel, and that's what counts
: these days. Thompson is probably right when he says Linux won't be
: successful in the long run. As Unix's market share gets squeezed by NT,
: only really important systems will be left running on it, and for those
: people will be prepared to pay big bucks for the reliablity and support
: of HP, IBM or Sun.
It depends on what you mean by `Linux won't be successful in the long
run'. If you mean that it has to take over the corporate world to
be a success, then you're probably right. However, the gifted hackers
that produced Linux did it out of love of their craft, and not for the
sake of the corporate world (or anyone else, including Joe Average
user). As long as these people continue to find Linux a good place
to exercise their talents, then it will only continue to improve.
It's nice that more pedestrian programmers like myself, corporations
and even people who only want to run applications have a use for it,
but our use is not essential to its well being. The fact that we can
use it points to the `success' of the real purpose of the free *nix
operating systems, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:36:17 -0400
THEVENIN wrote:
>
> The question is : why do you want to remove Linux ?
Uhhh, because choice of OS is one of the things that Linux is all about,
maybe?
'fdisk /mbr'
Dan
>
> mike mathog wrote:
>
> > I did an install of Red Hat at one point, and now I just want it gone.
> >
> > Using FDISK to blow away the partitions though doesn't seem to do the
> > trick. The LILO boot still comes up. If I disconnect the drive and put
> > another one there even, then the machine just keeps asking me to reboot
> > over and over.
> >
> > How do I get rid of Linux in the boot sector (I guess that's where it
> > is) once and for all?
> >
> > thanks,
> > -mike
--
UNIX - Not just for vestal virgins anymore
Linux - Choice of a GNU generation
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From: jmsalvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vmware: dga and tools problems
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:47:49 GMT
If I am not mistaken, in one of the doc files, they said that vmware is not
compatible with fb.
John Salvo
In article <7f186e$atq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong) wrote:
> Superstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : I recently installed vmware in linux without problem.
> : However, I've had problems using the DGA capable server
> : and their tools package, and couldn't find any solutions
> : on their webpage.
>
> : First, I installed the XFCom_3DLabs server, and it runs
> : fine, but when I load up vmware, it tells me that:
>
> : XFree86 direct graphics (DGA extension) initialization failed
>
> : Does anyone have any idea why this would fail, and what I
> : can do to fix it?
>
> : Second, I can boot into win95 in vmware fine, but when I
> : try to execute the supplied tools package, I get a
> : "move error", or something to that effect. Again, any clues
> : on this one?
>
> : Thanks.
> : ------------------------------------------
> : outsole.com
>
> : -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> : http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
> you'll probably find news.vmware.com more helpful.
>
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: an alias for cd to set PS1=pwd
Date: 11 May 1999 12:23:51 -0400
John Allman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> i want to make an alias for cd so that every time i type cd it
> changes the directory like normal, but also changes the prompt to
> show exactly where i am. in unix i have it set up as alias cd 'cd
> \!*;set prompt="`pwd`:> " ' so i guessed that in linux it would be
> alias cd='cd \!*; PS1="`pwd` :> "'. but that doesn't work. it
> doesn't know what i mean by \!*. does anyone know how to do this
> properly in linux?
yes. use a reasonable shell. i take it that you are/were a csh or
ksh user.
attempting to set PS1 indicates some bourne-like shell. use bash.
PS1='\w:> '
should give you what you need. see the man page. look for PS1.
if you are dead set on using a csh like shell, i suggest trying tcsh.
it has some similar nice escape sequences made for sticking in your
prompt.
--
johan kullstam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 12 May 1999 00:08:02 GMT
In article <7h9usf$gng$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Craig Dowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>I define a free market economic system as one in which individuals, rather
>>>than government, make most of the decisions about economic activities and
>>
>>But since "government" is just "a bunch of individuals" then a command
>>economy is a type of free market by your definition.
>
>Uh huh. There is no difference between a free market and a command
According to YOUR definition. Which obviously means that your definition
of a free market is bullshit. Why are you too stupid to figure this out?
>I didn't realize that the folks in Moosejaw got their marching orders
>from Ottawa. Hmmm. That explains a lot about the world-class products
>flowing from Canada, eh?
We have a command economy, commanded by billionaires.
>>He's talking about the fact that labour is not a free agent. That
>>labour is essentially enslaved.
>
>Uh huh. Let's redefine slavery a little more, eh? Bring up the Nazis,
>the fascists.
No need to redefine slavery at all. At the turn of the century, everyone
accepted that wage slavery was just another form of slavery. Of course,
there has been 50 years of heavy propaganda by corporations since then
so weak minds (like you) and ignorant twits (again, like you) have
swallowed the tripe whole and now believe they are "free".
Excerpt from
The Capitalist System
by Mikhail Bakunin 1814-1876
M. Karl Marx, the illustrious leader of German Communism, justly
observed in his magnificent work Das Kapital2 that if the contract
freely entered into by the vendors of money -in the form of wages -
and the vendors of their own labor -that is, between the employer and
the workers - were concluded not for a definite and limited term only,
but for one's whole life, it would constitute real slavery. Concluded
for a term only and reserving to the worker the right to quit his
employer, this contract constitutes a sort of voluntary and transitory
serfdom. Yes, transitory and voluntary from the juridical point of
view, but nowise from the point of view of economic possibility. The
worker always has the right to leave his employer, but has he the
means to do so? And if he does quit him, is it in order to lead a free
existence, in which he will have no master but himself? No, he does it
in order to sell himself to another employer. He is driven to it by
the same hunger which forced him to sell himself to the first
employer. Thus the worker's liberty, so much exalted by the
economists, jurists, and bourgeois republicans, is only a theoretical
freedom, lacking any means for its possible realization, and
consequently it is only a fictitious liberty, an utter falsehood. The
truth is that the whole life of the worker is simply a continuous and
dismaying succession of terms of serfdom -voluntary from the juridical
point of view but compulsory in the economic sense - broken up by
momentarily brief interludes of freedom accompanied by starvation; in
other words, it is real slavery.
>*Yawn* Whenever one reads the word moron in a post, it can be
>assured that the following content will ... Oh never mind; it's a wasted
>effort. I defer to your obviously massively superior intellect.
It's not that my intellect is superior to the rest. It's that yours
is massively *inferior*. Someone brings up objections to your idiot
rants and you go "Uhhh, what's that supposed to mean?".
>Believe whatever you want. Feel free to implement a workers paradise
>in Canada. Since Canadians are basically good people, it'll work there
>for the first time and you'll show us all.
It worked in Paris for 70-odd days, until the massacre on the fields
of March. It worked in Germany until it was brutally crushed by the
reigning regime. It even worked in a backward country like Russia for
an entire 3 years (from 1917 to 1920) until the entire world attacked
Russia and bled it dry, thus paving the way for a state-capitalist
like Stalin.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Subject: Re: Xfig can't fit!!
Date: 11 May 1999 23:41:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Paul
Kinsler) writes:
|> pces <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> > Kenny Zhu wrote:
|> > > Hi, I need some help. I'm working on a laptop the screen is 800x600. I
|> > > have a problem with xfig. I just can't see the bottom tool bars and some
|> > > of the side bars below as well. Any remedies? Thanks.
|> > Even if you move the mouse around(particularly to the bottom)? Does the
|> > screen scroll?
|>
|> I get the same-- although multiple desktops sort of solves the
|> problem. But it'd be nice if there was an option to make those
|> buttons really tiny to fit more of them on the screen without
|> eating so much screen area.
I posted this answer to comp.os.linux.x:
Use:
xfig -pwidth 8 -pheight 5.5 -but_per_row 3
This will make it use 3 buttons per row on the left panel and size the canvas
to fit in 800x600.
This is all mentioned in the man pages !
--
========================================================
Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Holden)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?
Date: 7 May 1999 03:47:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jesus Monroy, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 6 May 1999 23:26:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
>
>>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jesus Monroy, Jr.)
>writes:
>>
>>> Most people, for what I can decearn, want a machine that
>>> they can use as stand alone. However, they want the is machine
>>> to free from most of the security glitches that plague UNIX.
>>> Namely, they don't want other people to be able to get into
>>> their machine.
>>
>>If security were the issue, noone would use Win9x. They are very
>>insecure.
>>
> Yes, we agree that win95 machines are insecure.
>
>>> Yes, I know M$ win95 does not do this, but a least you can
>>> have that an enviromentally controlled area (ie. your home).
>>> While it is true anyone can walk up to a win95 machine a
>>> simple get on that is really a *feature*.
>>
>>Unix is very secure if not connected to a network. Win is very insecure
>>as soon as it is connected to a network. Terrible comparison you make!
>>
> Not true. Win95 machines are secure even when permenantly
> connect to the Internet. The primary reason is that
> they do not have a login shell. I believe my comparison
> to be valid.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. A win95
must be one of the easiest machines to crash cie the network. And
to run arbitrary on via the network. And to access the filesystem
on via the network.
>
> No login shell is a *feature* of win95.
You don't need a shell to be insecure.
>>if you really want! In fact just run an automatic login to some user in
>>the init sequence. But that is silly. Why do parents not want to have
>>their stuff segregated from their kids? Do you really think people habe
>>such a difficult time typing in a name and a password? This is not the
>>issue!
>>
> Yes it is an issue. I definitely is. Losing you pword involves
> administrative involvement.
No it doesn't it involves inserting the boot-disk your created when
you installed the system (or was provided to you by the place you
bought the computer from) and enter the password you wish to use instead.
Reboot and it's all fixed.
> Every extra feature that is added, ie. login with shell and
> privleages, is an encumberance to end-users. You can ignore
> the issue, but that does not relieve the results.
It also stops the user from accidently destroying their OS with one
incorrect mouse drag. It also stops viruses from infecting the whole
system.
In fact it makes it easier for the no-brain user to use. All they have
to do is remember the username and password - set the password to the
empty string, and use the machine name it prints at the prompt as the
login and you don't even have to remember it.
> If you like, I can elaborate with examples.
I doubt it.
--
Sam
The very fact that it's possible to write messy programs in Perl is also
what makes it possible to write programs that are cleaner in Perl than
they could ever be in a language that attempts to enforce cleanliness.
--Larry Wall
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Redhat Sparc wants 150M Smaller needed!
Date: 12 May 1999 00:48:03 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Greer) writes:
]Do an "expert" install and manually tell it which packages to install.
]It should tell you after you pick each package how much MB of disk
]space it will require.
Yes, I tried that and the lowest I could get it to was 130MB
glibc was 27MB all on its own! (That is absurd)
]On 11 May 1999 23:17:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
]-->I just tried to install Redhat 6 on a Sparc machine and it told it it
]-->wants 150M of disk space > This is huge! I have a 100M disk on it. How
]-->do I get it down to say 60M (with X) Will be using a sparc II as an
]-->Xterminal mainly.
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From: Mike Roessing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.x Kernel woes
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:48:09 -0500
Hi, just wondering if anyone else out there ran into similar problems
such as mine.
I have one linux box connected to an ADSL line, which acts as a gateway
for my internal network. It is running kernel 2.0.35. A workstation on
the internal network was running 2.0.35 and I could not see a problem
anywhere. Of course, when the 2.2.x kernels came out, I upgraded.
I now have 2.2.7, and as far as I can tell, one thing has "broken" and
that is my ability to IRC from the workstation. In 2.0.35, I could fire
up XChat or BitchX and IRC directly from the workstation, but with
2.2.7, I have to telnet to the gateway and IRC from there. I have
duplicated, to the best of my abilities, the network setup that I had
for 2.0.35 in the 2.2.7 kernel, and nothing (I wish I had the settings
for each kernel on me, but I don't).
I would go back to 2.0.35, or 2.0.36, but I have a lot of modules and
stuff compiled for 2.2.7 and it would be a real pain use that option.
So, I am just wondering if anyone else has noticed a problem like this
and if they fixed it. Or is it as simple as I actually have to set up
IPCHAINS on the workstation? :-)
jaraxle
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From: "(BXTC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat price...
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:26:56 GMT
Ray wrote:
I just wanted to recomend Mandrake linux, this is the full version of
RH6 integrated with KDE(so it is actually better;))
You can get the standard powerpack (which includes 4 disks), a
instalation/user manual, and e-mail support all for $44.95.
And the Plus powerpack has all that plus a few other things for $52.95.
But you don't see it in stores so it isn't bringing in to many "new"
linux users. I think Red Hat should put in a rebate or something saying
that if you don't use tech support then you can send it in and get $30
back. I also think stores need to start advertising Suse and other
"easy" versions so more poeple will try linux.
--
No great Genius has ever existed without some touch of madness.
Aristotle
(BXTC) ICQ# 23289202
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