Linux-Misc Digest #174, Volume #20 Wed, 12 May 99 19:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to low-level format a SCSI (Bernhard Brueck)
Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (Tom Payne)
Re: Eudora-like mail program for linux? (With Filters etc) (Ali)
Samba and printing. (Brian Seitz)
Starting X at boot-up (Jim McIntyre)
Re: Q: Can Linux read IRIX (5.3) filesystem? (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Re: Debian: still viable? (Paul Seelig)
Telnet to WINE/Linux App Server Running Office97 (Brian Eckrose)
getting the modem working using minicom (J Knight)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (Christopher Browne)
Re: More troubles with 2.2.7 (Michael Powe)
Re: Problems with Acroread 3 and 4 (Peter Stein)
Redhat 6.0 *** Warning *** Changes to INN news config (Chris Hedley)
ssh-1.2.26 problem (benjamin)
Re: Linux on K62 ok? (Michael Powe)
Acrobat4 acroread from Netscape 4.07 (RH 5.2) (Peter Stein)
Re: Programming crashes my system (Dale Henderson)
Most stable kernel? (Tam)
Re: Problem with /dev/ttyS2 (NF Stevens)
Re: LILO.CONF (NF Stevens)
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?) (John Fieber)
Re: Help - Resolution Setup (J Knight)
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From: Bernhard Brueck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How to low-level format a SCSI
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:30:10 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Albert Wiersch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can I low level format a SCSI drive on my remote Linux system?
> I don't want to have to physically go to it to do so (want to do it through
> telnet). I think the SCSI BIOS has a format utility, but I would like a
> Linux program to do it. Can't access the SCSI BIOS from here.
> The drive doesn't have any useful files on it right now... I would just like
> to low-level format it and then set it up as a backup drive.
http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/Linux/MIRROR.tsx-11/
ALPHA/scsi/scsiinfo-1.7.tar.\gz
or you favourite tsx-11 mirror nearby.
With scsiinfo you can low-level-format scsi-disks and change a lot of
parameters of the drive as well.
Bernhard
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Bernhard Brueck
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From: Tom Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: 12 May 1999 20:50:08 GMT
Rob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
: What I mean is this: In the
: corporate world people will pay very large sums of money for guaranteed
: reliability and someone to shout at when things go wrong.
And what do they really get for those large sums? Guaranteed
response, i.e., someone to shout at. But every software contract from
large vendors has disclaimers that the vendor isn't liable for bugs.
There's no guarantee of reliability.
: Companies like
: Veritas sell their products on the strength of a proven reputation, made
: in industry under the most demanding of circumstances. The same goes for
: the big Unix vendors, and it's the one thing Linux will struggle to
: achieve.
Veritas products will port to Linux just as well as any other Unix code.
: My original point was that NT has a stranglehold on the desktop and is
: fast taking over the low-end server market,
Check your data. The most recent data that I saw showed Unix losing
ground in the server market, NT holding steady, and Linux making
significant gains.
: and that people with
: high-end gear are happy to pay through the nose for the big names and
: are frightened of taking on FSF type software. Where does that leave
: Linux and FreeBSD? In the hands of hobbyists?
>From ComputerWorld May 3, 1999, page 1:
Saddled with low oil prices and a need to cut costs, global oil
giant Amerada Hess Corp. is saving millions of dollars by replacing
a costly IBM super-computer with high-end parallel clusters running
Linux ...
Tom Payne
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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:02:30 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ali)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Eudora-like mail program for linux? (With Filters etc)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > What programs are there for Linux that handle automatic filtering
> > (putting mail in different mailboxes, depending on sender)? Something
> > like Eudora for Windows.
> >
> > The program must have a decent graphical interface. Preferably a program
> > that offers a 3-pane view. KDE support is even better.
> >
> > --
> > email cc please.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > no spam please
> >
> > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> > ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
You can try CommuniGate Pro. There is a free trial version (no time limit
- no function limit) at <http://www.stalker.com/CommuniGatePro>. There are
lots of reviews to read at www.stalker.com. Good luck.
Ali
Stalker Software,Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Seitz)
Subject: Samba and printing.
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:58:24 GMT
Hi, I am tring to get a guest usable printer working on a Samba server on Linux with a
Windows NT as a client. The Linux machine will come up on the NT machine while
browsing the network, but I cannot find the printer to add to the NT machine.
This is what smb.conf looks like:
1 [global]
2 log file = /var/log/samba-log.%m
3 lock directory = /var/lock/samba
4 share modes = yes
5
6 [homes]
7 comment = Home Directories
8 browseable = yes
9 read only = no
10 create mode = 0750
11
12 [tmp]
13 comment = Temporary file space
14 path = /tmp
15 read only = no
16 public = yes
17
18 [printers]
19 path = /usr/spool/lp1
20 writable = no
21 public = yes
22 guest ok = yes
23 printable = yes
This is what the log file looks like each time the server is started:
15 [1999/05/12 13:33:34, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(219)
16 file_init: Information only: requested 10000 open files, 246 are available.
17 [1999/05/12 13:33:34, 0] smbd/server.c:main(669)
18 standard input is not a socket, assuming -D option
I'd appreciate any help in getting the NT machine to see the Linux printer, thanks.
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From: Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Starting X at boot-up
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:56:59 -0300
Some question about my boot-up process.
1. How do I boot Linux directly into X. I cant' find the command to use
anywhere.
2. Do I insert the command into .bashrc or Xinitrc.
3. Are there any potential security compromises associated with booting
directly into X.
Thanks in advance
Jim McIntyre
Webmaster Program
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: Q: Can Linux read IRIX (5.3) filesystem?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:44:13 +0100 (BST)
Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have an SGI-box, a Linux box, a Win98-box.
> I also have a couple of SGI-cd's (patches / newer version) but no player in
> the SGI-box.
> Q: What options do I have, without bying a player for the SGI...
I had this problem for IRIX 6.2, and all I had to do was find
the right source code off the net to allow linux to understand
xfs. If 5.3 used xfs, then you're in luck. Damed if I can
remember what the code was called though... have you looked in
the SGI faq's? (You might try comp.os.sgi.misc also).
Or a dejanews search on suitable keywords...
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Institute of Microwaves and Photonics
University of Leeds (ph) +44-113-2332089
Leeds LS2 9JT (fax)+44-113-2332032
United Kingdom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB: http://www.ee.leeds.ac.uk/staff/pk/P.Kinsler.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Seelig)
Subject: Re: Debian: still viable?
Date: 12 May 99 22:01:34 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann) writes:
> system. I don't mind the old dselect package system, though it does have
> its weaknesses (for one, it has to scan the entire CD just to install one
> package),
>
You are only using the wrong access method in dselect - which is
unfortunaly not very obvious to people without prior knowledge.
Choose something like "mountable" or even better "apt" and this will
be no problem anymore. You probably have to install the "mountable"
and "apt" packages before these options become available in dselect.
> though apt is supposed to be a lot better (haven't seen it yet).
>
This is actually installation heaven - well, almost, but close ... ;-)
> I haven't had any problem installing outside software (and the dpkg system
> can install rpms if need be).
>
No, it can't. But you can use 'alien' to convert packages into .deb's
which can then be installed via dpkg as usual.
Cheers, P. *8^)
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--------- Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----------
African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies
Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany
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From: Brian Eckrose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Telnet to WINE/Linux App Server Running Office97
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:07:30 -0500
Is it possible to run Office97 on a Linux/WINE application server from a
remote system via a telnet session (with X display exported)?
Thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Knight)
Subject: getting the modem working using minicom
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:52:34 GMT
I'm not very familiar with minicom, but it seems that this is my last
step to getting my dial-up set-up. I've set-up my ppp-on and ppp-off
and ppp-on-dialer scripts and set the permissions, etc. Then when I
tried to connect, I got a "modem locked" message. In minicom I found
where such a lock file would be found and got rid of it. Now, my
scripts seem to work fine, but my modem gives an error and never
dials. I believe the problem is that I'm not getting a clean 8 bits.
How can I change this in minicom?
...Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Date: 12 May 1999 17:50:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 09 May 1999 00:46:03 -0700, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>david parsons wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Just look at the mess that distributors made of glibc 2.0/1. Even
>> >though glibc2.0 was not intended for production use, they shipped it
>>
>> As much as it's tempting to blame the distributors for gl*bc 2.0,
>> alas, you must also blame the developers. The developer of libc 5
>> dropped libc 5 like a hot potato as soon as glibc 2.0 was even
>> slightly viable, and many many other developers scrambled to get on
>> the glibc bandwagon as soon as they could. And the glibc developers
>> weren't extraordinarily good at announcing that "this is beta
>> software and you shouldn't use it!"
>
>What is it that glibc2 offers over libc5 that would cause this mass
>migration besides hype? Something I have always wondered.
- glibc2 works on non-IA-32 platforms. libc5 only works on IA-32
platforms, with (perhaps) a brief period of *nearly* working on Alpha.
- glibc2 is (or is nearly) thread-safe, allowing applications to
support SMP. libc2, um, isn't.
- glibc2 diminishes dependance of applications on Linux-specific
kernel code, thus making code "play better" with other platforms.
>> david parsons \bi/ It's to FreeBSD's credit that the core team had to
>> \/ be forced at gunpoint into switching from a.out to
>> ELF.
>
>What is wrong with the ELF file format? What does it offer over a.out?
>If a lot, then no it is not to their credit....if a.out is better then
>they should have stuck with it.
It was quite a pain building shared libraries with a.out; ELF handles
this in a far more friendly manner.
ELF was designed after a.out had been deployed for many years; would
it make sense to go through the (admitted) pain of moving to a new
object format in order to have a clearly *inferior* object format?
--
"There isn't any reason why Linux can't be implemented as an enterprise
computing solution. Find out what you've been missing while you've been
rebooting Windows NT." - Infoworld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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Subject: Re: More troubles with 2.2.7
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 May 1999 15:21:13 -0700
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>>>>> "David" == David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
David> I am running SuSE 6.0 on a GW2K Solo 5150. I can now boot
David> into the 2.2.7 kernel (thanks, Jeffrey Stanton!). Now I
David> have some other troubles.
David> 1) When booting, I get the following message a whole bunch
David> of times:
David> modprobe: can't locate module char-major-4
Usually, this is occurring in one of your startup scripts. You can
take the baseball-bat approach and just comment out the offending
line.
David> Diagnostic information:
David> david@solo:~ > uname -a Linux solo 2.2.7 #2 Tue May 11
David> 07:18:46 EDT 1999 i686 unknown
May 11 08:03:18 solo syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
May 11 08:03:19 solo kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
May 11 08:03:19 solo kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map
May 11 08:03:19 solo kernel: Symbol table has incorrect version number.
May 11 08:03:19 solo kernel: Cannot find map file.
May 11 08:03:19 solo kernel: No module symbols loaded.
There seems to be something wrong here. I believe this should look
something like this:
May 11 19:52:33 trollope syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
May 11 19:52:34 trollope kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
May 11 19:52:35 trollope kernel: Loaded 5962 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.2.7
May 11 19:52:35 trollope kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.7.
mp
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Stein)
Subject: Re: Problems with Acroread 3 and 4
Date: 12 May 1999 19:02:14 GMT
In article <7h45qo$fh3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Tennent <rdt> wrote:
>On 8 May 1999 20:59:32 +0100, Florian Rupp wrote:
> >Hello from Aachen,
> >I trying to use Acrobat Reader 3.0 or 4.0beta. My operation system
> >is SuSE Linux 6.1 (glibc).
> >
> >Unfortunately, acroread produces the following output on startup:
> >
> >Warning: Unmatched quotation marks in string <garbage deleted>,
> >any remaining fonts in list unparsed
> >Warning: Unmatched quotation marks in string <garbage deleted>,
> >any remaining fonts in list unparsed
> >
> >After startup, several segmentation faults occur. The output
> >is a mess of mixed colors and letters.
> >
>I've used 3.0 and 4.0beta successfully with a RedHat system.
>However there are some bad rpms out there. I suggest you go to
>rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM and download another rpm.
>
>Bob T.
I cannot get Acroread 4 to run successfully as either a Netscape
helper application or as a plugin. As a helper application it
generates a segmentation violation, as a plugin it generates a
bus error. This is on a RH 5.2 system which has been running both
glibc and libc5 apps without incident.
Could you please email the output of the following:
1. ldconfig -p
2. ldd $ACRODIR/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread
Thanks for your help.
Peter Stein
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Hedley)
Subject: Redhat 6.0 *** Warning *** Changes to INN news config
Date: 12 May 1999 18:55:53 GMT
I dunno if this is old territory, but I've just been bitten on
the bum by the change to the news config wrt RH5.2 -> RH6.0 so
I thought I'd share. The major difference is that the articles
directory has been changed from /var/spool/news to
/var/spool/news/articles This obviously has some fairly serious
implications. I only have a couple of dozen newsgroups but it
caused me about 3/4 of an our of major head scratching before I
fixed it, so watch out those people who have thousands of groups
on their servers; I managed to recover with a combination of find,
awk, vi, sed, cpio and friends, but although I saved the heirarchy
I twatted my overview database. Arse.
For those contemplating or embarking on an upgrade on a system
with an INN installation, *please read all the config files
thoroughly* before you even consider starting the server otherwise
you'll be faced with a major pain in the rear, not to mention the
hordes of irate users if you're providing a service.
I'm too tired to talk through this in detail, but I expect all of
you with any INN admin experience can work through this now that
you know what's the deal. In addition, just in case you haven't
come across this other annoying little detail, "makeactive" is
a rather inaccurate way of rebuilding your active file as it
includes every directory in the heirarchy, even if it's just a
"holding" directory for real newsgroups, so keep "vi" or a copy
of an accurate active file to diff against to hand. Or even back
the bugger up if you're feeling really thorough.
Right, warning/moan over, you're on your own now. I've just
been to the local supermarket's novelty beer department so I'm
out of action for the next 24 hours, but if you're insane enough
to believe I may be of any help feel free to email me (with the
usual caveat that my return address is munged... if you can't
unmunge it, why are you running a news server? :)
Good luck, you'll need it. For those who think this may be a
situation that calls for antidepressants I can advise on them
as well (ie don't mix tranylcypromine and beer as one of the
side-effects is death)
Chris.
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From: benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ssh-1.2.26 problem
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:28:33 +0200
Hello ,
I am runing Linux 2.2.4 and ssh-1.2.26
I want to configure ssh as described :
i give a pubkey to my friends so that they can login. the matching
private keys are in /home/user/.ssh
i copied the files.pub to authorized_keys and to try it, i made an ssh
on myself:
$ ssh my_ip
Then, it says no hostkey found, and creates one: key_my_ip.pub and puts
it in ~/.ssh/known_hosts.
So what is the use of the identity and identity.pub files if anyway a
pubkey is created when i login ?
I want that someone who doesn't have a pubkey gets a Connection refused.
Thank you for helping.
Benjamin
runing Linux Kernel 2.2.4
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Linux on K62 ok?
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 May 1999 15:30:48 -0700
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>>>>> "shalom77" == shalom77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
shalom77> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
shalom77> ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BE9CCD.37845240
shalom77> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
shalom77> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please fix your broken newsreader and stop posting this html crap to
newsgroups. Your readers will love you for it.
mp
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Stein)
Subject: Acrobat4 acroread from Netscape 4.07 (RH 5.2)
Date: 12 May 1999 19:07:56 GMT
Has anyone gotten this to work?
If I setup acroread as a helper application I get a segmentation
violation on any PDF file. If I setup acroread as a plugin I get
a bus error.
Yes, I know RH 5.2 is glibc, and yes, Acrobat4 is libc5 (don't
ask me why Adobe did this). I've been running both glibc and
libc5 apps successfully since I upgraded to RH 5.2. It's beyond
me why acroread can't be started successfully from Netscape.
FWIW, acroread runs perfectly fine as a standalone app. Also I
verified that the helper syntax under Netscape is similar
to my configuration at work under Solaris.
Peter Stein
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux-redhat
Subject: Re: Programming crashes my system
From: Dale Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 May 1999 17:17:39 -0500
>>>>> "dan" == dan forever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
dan> I am using several programming languages on a Win98
dan> environment : Borland's C/C++ compiler and Microsoft's VJ++
dan> for Java 1.0. C allows me to use pointers and sometimes I get
dan> into infinite loops and while Windows can terminate these
dan> most these most of the time, on rare ocassions, it can't, or
dan> creates havoc in the system, forcing me to reboot. Same with
dan> Java. I think I did something or VJ++ did something and it
dan> might have messed up my registry, and caused "Explorer" to
dan> malfunction, and therefore would not let me boot up to
dan> Windows. I had to
dan> do a tedious re-install of Windows to solve that problem.
dan> My question is, what exactly is causing these problems? Is it
dan> a bad compiler? Is it an inherent danger in programming
dan> (especially with pointers in C)? Or, is it Window's fault for
dan> not "isolating" the problem program and letting it cause havoc?
The problem is a poor memory protection model under windows.
try this
int main (void){
int *foo;
foo=0;
*foo=5;
return 0;
}
This will usually crash a dos machine under linux it would cause
a segmentation fault and dump core.
dan> And another important question, would Linux be a more stable
dan> environment
Linux would be a much more stable environment.
dan> to program C or Java in? I need an operating system that is
dan> stable and won't crash on me because of any programming
dan> mistakes I make. Or, is programming just plain "dangerous" to
dan> any OS? The specific Linux version
dan> I am talking about is Red Hat.
The protection is in the kernel the *distribution* should be
irrelevant. And any decent distribution should ship with all the
development tools you'll need (emacs gcc gdb etc.)
dan> Thanks for any suggestions or comments.
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From: Tam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Most stable kernel?
Date: 12 May 1999 22:37:05 GMT
Hi,
I would like to hear from anybody about your experience with stability
of your Linux system. I want to do heavy serial I/O without ever seeing
a crash:) Seriously, do I need to write my own embedded system to see
this kind of reliability? I've heard stories of peoples' systems staying
up for months at a time. Please (in)validate these stories.
Any recommendations on a free OS avilable TODAY that speaks nothing but
reliability?
Thanks for your help.
Tom Michaud
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Problem with /dev/ttyS2
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:17:08 GMT
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>I'm having a strange problem with /dev/ttyS2, which is my dialout
>port. After I've boot up, I can't dial out on it because I get
>"permission denied." The perms are then 644: crw-r--r--. After I
>change the perms to 666: crw-rw-rw-, I then can dial out. However,
>the perms keep getting changed back. I did not have this problem
>until I upgraded to kernel 2.2.7 last week -- that included a complete
>system upgrade for all subsidiary elements listed in the kernel
>documentation -- pppd 2.3.7 &c.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
If /dev/ttyS2 is listed in /etc/permissions then the daily
cron housekeeping will reset the file permissions to what is
listed in that file.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: LILO.CONF
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:17:09 GMT
"Bill Bentley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>TS Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> Sorry, Janine, Winbloze has to be on the *FIRST* drive, no exception.
>Put
>> w95 back on hda and your problems will go away. BTW, linux could boot
>from
>> magnetically encoded licorice, if need be.
>
>Hmm... only if you've written a device driver for the licorice drive... ;)
And remember, you have to compile it into the kernel, not have
it as a module, if you want to boot from it.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Fieber)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Date: 12 May 1999 19:13:30 GMT
In article <7hadqc$j43$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>: If you don't want the distribution versions, don't install them. You can
>>: put your version under /usr/local if that is where you want to store and
>>: (forever) maintain it.
>>
>> I'm still not sure of what you mean. Are you saying that if the
>> distribution can install the FooBar package, it should go in /usr
>> but if you install it yourself later it should go in /usr/local?
>
> Yes, that's the way the Linux distributions work. I didn't like it
> at first either but it has kind of grown on me.
A couple observations on this thread:
1. Separating the "core" OS from add-on gizmos is basically
impossible to do in Linux because there is no clearly defined (or
agreed upon) core. The BSD systems make a pretty clear line
between vendor maintained code and third party packages. When the
distinction is there, it is most sensible to maintain it rather
than going against the grain.
2. People seem to be forgetting that there are more than two options
(/ and /usr/local). Is it so hard to grasp three distinct
trees?
a) the core OS
b) packaged 3rd party software
c) local stuff
This allows (relatively) independent release cycles and upgrades
of each piece. I can upgrade the core OS just by clobbering the
old and installing the new, all without disturbing any of the
third party or local software. It also enables mounting the core
OS read-only which adds extra protection against rogue 3rd party
package installs...if you can't write to /usr/lib, you can't mess
it up. From dealing with Windows, I have an extreme paranoia of
3rd party stuff trashing the core OS and the fact that Linux
distributions freely mix the two makes me extremely nervous.
I'll grant that Linux packages are much better about not spamming
the OS, but why even expose yourself to the risk when it is
trivial to avoid it completely? (But for Linux, you then have to
decide what is OS and what is 3rd party. Something like the Debian
base install?)
The main headache with the BSD style monolithic distribution comes
with particular subsystems what march to the beat of a different
release cycle. Things like sendmail and perl. There is a lot of
ambivolance of having those things inside the "core" circle.
-john
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Knight)
Subject: Re: Help - Resolution Setup
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:17:53 GMT
On Wed, 12 May 1999 20:39:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John) wrote:
>Here is the deal:
>
>I have Red Hat 6.0.
>I have a Diamond Banshee Video Card
>I have an IIYama 8617E 17" Monitor
>
>How can I get out of the big 320x300 resolution so I can at least see
>what Linux can do. Right now it is unusable. I know that the Voodoo
>Banshee card is not listed but surely there is a way to get it to work
>better than that. Does anyone know how and since I am new to Linux,
>please elaborate. Thanks very much in advance.
I had the same problem with my SiS card. My solution was to buy a S3
Virge DX and reinstall xwindows. However I know that this isn't the
most practical solution.
Look in your XF86Config file under /etc/X11.
Make a copy of it first.
Second, find the "Monitor" section or something like that. You should
find two lines that set the horizontal and vertical refresh or
synchronization rates. Make sure these match the specifications of
your monitor (you can find this in your monitor's manual). Making
sure these are set correctly will protect your monitor from being
damaged.
Then (in this file) find the section on "Screens".
In that section, you should find a line or a few lines that start
with:
Modes "..." "..."
with some numbers in the quotes.
Try changing it to read
Modes "640x480"
This should be a start.
Come back if that doesn't work.
...Knight
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