Linux-Misc Digest #174, Volume #21               Mon, 26 Jul 99 18:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Craig Kelley)
  Broken X ("Brian D. Jones")
  Re: Scared to try again (Larry)
  Re: C question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: limits of ext2 filesystem ("Andrew")
  Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Ashley Penney)
  Re: ftp config ("YouDontKnowWho")
  Using alsa-sound drivers with the Trident 4d Wave sound cards ("Don Whitlow")
  Re: Hot weather causing crashes? (Larry)
  Netscape crashed on RH6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Powering down with RH6.0 (Steven E Bourland)
  Re: Why is module st0 (SCSI tape drive) always loaded? (Bob Surenko)
  Re: named question (William Wueppelmann)
  Re: Third hard drive (David Smith)
  Re: Setting environment in bash shell? (Paul Kimoto)
  Recommendations: PPP+Proxy+POP (Clay)
  Re: Powering down with RH6.0 (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Why is module st0 (SCSI tape drive) always loaded? ("Steve Snyder")
  RH5.2 and glibc2.1 ("R. Jackson")
  Re: Initio SCSI help (Justin Pratt)
  Re: Permissions - why can a user delete a file not his own? ("Sardia")
  Re: LILO and Multiple Linux Distribution installs (Neil W Rickert)

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Jul 1999 12:59:03 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashley Penney) writes:

> :> Give it up DUDE! You know NOTHING about Miami, and I've seen from
> :> your previous post that you are completely CLUELESS, and you continue
> :> to make an ass out of yourself.
> :
> :Just out of interest, what are the advantages of Miami over pppd?
> 
> Darren,
> 
> You've stirred up the Amiga nutcases, RUN DARREN! Run and don't look back or
> you will see the horde of Amiga fanatics frantically clutching their rather
> pathetically outdated hardware.

... and QNX demo disks.

-- 
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block

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From: "Brian D. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Broken X
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:39:25 -0400

I was running VMWare the other day and had a crash that froze up my
system.  I had to manually reboot the machine, and X hasn't worked
since.  I've done all the tricks I know with Xconfigurator and fooling
with XF86Config, but when the machine tries to start X, it blinks and
gives the error "Fatal server error: could not open default font
'fixed'".  X was working fine before this crash, and it didn't appear
that any files were altered.  I've re-downloaded servers, reconfigured,
done everything I can come up with, and I'm running out of ideas.

I got a suggestion to physically disconnect the power from the machine,
but that did not fix the problem.  The card is an AccelStar Permedia II
AGP, and I'm using the XF86_3DLabs server.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated...please cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks!

Brian


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: Scared to try again
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Jul 1999 11:43:42 -0600

On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:53:53 -0400, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>About 2 years ago I spent about 200 hours getting RH 4.0 to run on one of my
>computers.  It was a fiasco.  Now I'm thinking about trying it again.  I've
>noticed that the NG's don't have the same kinds of problems I saw back then,
>so I'm hoping it can be installed easier.
>
>Anyone ever installed it on an Amptron PM-9100 motherboard?  This has
>integrated video and sound.  Other than that I don't have anything unusual.
>
>What are my chances of a clean install without any manual tinkering?

Slim and none!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: C question
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:12:39 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello.
>
> I want to access file information in linux using C. ie. filesize, date
> modified, filename etc. I wrote the following piece of code in DOS
using
> borland Turbo C++. How do I write an equivalent linux version?????
>
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <dir.h>
> #include <conio.h>
>
> ......
> ......
> clrscr();    //found in conio.h
> struct ffblk f;
> findfirst("filename.ext", &f,0);
> /* now struct f contains the info i want. what do i use in linux?? */
> getch();  //found in conio.h
> .....
> .....
> .....
> what header file must i include to make use of clrscr() and getch()
????
>
> thanks for the help
> ali


Do a man fgetc to find a suitable replacement for getch().

For clrscr(), that's a Borland oddity.  You might be able to get away
with sending a control-l to the terminal (printf("%c",0x0c)).  If you
need more than that, then you'll probably have to investigate using the
ncurses library.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:57:24 GMT

A difference in terminology that comes from the age of some of the terms and the 
evolution
of the language.

A "cracker" is a person who attempts to gain entry into a protected computer system.

A "hacker" is/was a programmer who had the expertise and temperment to fix obscure
problems with obscure solutions. This label has since been applied to those who also
fit the "cracker" label, as it used to take a "hacker" to be a "cracker".

However, I prefer the term "vandal" or "trespasser" or "theif" or "spy" to "cracker",
anyway.


On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:46:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger) wrote:

>On 23 Jul 1999 15:50:13 -0400, Paul Anderson wrote:
>>>I have lots of visits from hackers, according to my /var/log/secure
>>>file, but they don't get a connection.
>>>
>>You mean crackers not hackers.  Hackers don't try to break into computers.
>
>Yes they do - they just don't do damage. Instead, many of them (rightly so!)
>capitalize on their abilities by selling the solution to the problem to the
>people who own the computer they "hacked" into.
>
>Crackers are the kiddies who crack into computers in order to cause damage.
>
>-- 
>Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
>Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4


Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: limits of ext2 filesystem
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:55:51 -0500

Yep.  It's possible.  Got one working right now.

Regards,
Andrew


Carol Bosshart - KVG Internet Services wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello,
>
>Does anybody know if it is possible to build an ext2-partition
>with a size of 35 Gig. ?
>
>On this partition I need a directory with about 50000 files in it.
>
>Does ext2 support this?
>
>  many thanks,
>      Carol



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:46:09 GMT

On 23 Jul 1999 15:50:13 -0400, Paul Anderson wrote:
>>I have lots of visits from hackers, according to my /var/log/secure
>>file, but they don't get a connection.
>>
>You mean crackers not hackers.  Hackers don't try to break into computers.

Yes they do - they just don't do damage. Instead, many of them (rightly so!)
capitalize on their abilities by selling the solution to the problem to the
people who own the computer they "hacked" into.

Crackers are the kiddies who crack into computers in order to cause damage.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashley Penney)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 21:09:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 26 Jul 1999 12:59:03 -0600, Craig Kelley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) gabbered:
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashley Penney) writes:
:
:> :> Give it up DUDE! You know NOTHING about Miami, and I've seen from
:> :> your previous post that you are completely CLUELESS, and you continue
:> :> to make an ass out of yourself.
:> :
:> :Just out of interest, what are the advantages of Miami over pppd?
:> 
:> Darren,
:> 
:> You've stirred up the Amiga nutcases, RUN DARREN! Run and don't look back or
:> you will see the horde of Amiga fanatics frantically clutching their rather
:> pathetically outdated hardware.
:
:... and QNX demo disks.

LOL, that's the biggest chuckle I've had all day.  Thanks for that one. :)

-- 
                  Ashley Penney - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'm not lean and mean, I'm surly and anorexic". -- Chris "Saundo" Saunderson

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From: "YouDontKnowWho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ftp config
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:59:59 GMT

Have you checked the settings in the following files?

/etc/ftpaccess
/etc/hosts.deny
/etc/hosts.allow

Also, check the man pages for ftpaccess.

--
Principle of Minimum Access: "That which is not explicitly permitted
is denied."

ANNOUNCER: And now we return to our regularly scheduled, uncommonly
entertaining thread...

Jason Rotunno wrote in message <7ni23p$4s3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>i've got a question about configuring ftp.  i've recently installed a
>linux box (maybe in march - slackware 3.6) and everything seems to be
>going ok.  one problem that i'm having, though is that i can't upload
>anything via anonymous ftp (permission denied).  i've checked the
>permissions on the directory which seem ok.  i've even set the
permissions
>to 777 on the ftp directory, but still no luck.  i thought that at
one
>time i was able to upload using anonymous ftp, but i might have just
>tested downloading.  maybe anonymous ftp is disabled, but i'm having
>trouble on finding out how to check this.  i didn't find any
information
>in the "running linux" book or the "linux system administrator's
guide" on
>sunsite on how to configure ftp.  i've also installed linuxconf
becuase i
>thought it might help, but i don't see any ftp configuration options.
if
>anyone can give me some suggestions i'd appreciate it.  thanks.
>
>
>


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From: "Don Whitlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using alsa-sound drivers with the Trident 4d Wave sound cards
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:31:54 -0500

Has anyone gotten the alsa-sound drivers to work with the Trident 4D Wave
cards on either RH6 or Caldera 2.2? I have downloaded the 0.3.2 drivers from
alsa-project, and have not been able to get the card to work yet, even
though it is supported according to the documentation.

Whenever I try to unmute the sound card using amixer, I get an error saying
something to the effect of 'unknown command: unmute', even though the man
pages for amixer explicitly list this as a command, as does the alsa-sound
documentation.

Any help with getting this to work would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: Hot weather causing crashes?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Jul 1999 14:09:35 -0600

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:18:07 GMT, Rob Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>       At home I use a 7 year old 50 MHz 486 which over the last few
>months has started occasionally spontaneously rebooting, usually when
>I'm editing something.  It seems to happen on hot nights, so I thought
>split second blackouts from too many air conditioners might be the
>cause, but nothing else (i.e. clocks) seems to be affected, and if I
>try restarting Linux right after one of these crashes, it gets just
>past the fscking before crashing again, making me think that the CPU
>might be too hot, even though all my fans are working (at least when I
>watch them).


I had a crashing problem on my wifes machine and watching the fan on the
processor showed it was running, but after much searching I went ahead and
changed the fan anyway and VIOLA, it cured the problem.

I think the fan slowed down due to age and internal friction and wasn't
getting enough air flow across the cpu. Also the cooling fins underneath the
fan were clogged. I cleaned these and it worked for a few weeks but it
didn't completely cure the problem. Changing the fan did.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Netscape crashed on RH6.0
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:50:46 GMT

I just installed RH6.0 on my PC: Intel MMX 166 MHz, 32 MB RAM. However,
netscape 4.5 coming with the CD keeps crashing when I access some Web site
(like www.ooc.com) which needs start Java. The error message says "Bus
error". Any clue?

Thanks in advance!

Wenbin



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From: Steven E Bourland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Powering down with RH6.0
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:12:58 -0500

When I first installed RH6.0 and 'shutdown -h now', the machine would
actually
power down on its own (I didn't have to hit the power switch).  Being
the lazy boy
that I am, when I compiled a new kernel (2.2.10) and it quit powering
down on its
own, I was quite miffed.  I saw earlier posted re: Suse and this problem
which said
to add '-p' to the final line in rc.halt.  Well, I checked my rc.halt
and it seems to
already have the '-p' in there (along with three other switches, which I
don't recall
right now as I am at work).  The line looked something like:

$eval -i -v -p

(Not super sure I am remember things correctly).

Is anyone else having this occur?  Anyone know how to get it back to the
lazy man's
situation where I don't have to put all that effort into crawling under
my table to find
the silly power button?

TIA,
Steve

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Bob Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is module st0 (SCSI tape drive) always loaded?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:12:37 GMT

In comp.os.linux.hardware Steve Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On my all-SCSI system (RedHat v6.0, kernel v2.2.10) I build the CD-ROM
: and tape drive support as modules.  (These devices are rarely used so 
: there's no need to have the device drivers for them occupy RAM all the
: time.)  I notice, though, that the module for the SCSI tape drive, 
: "st0.o", is loaded at boot time and never removed.

: Can anyone explain this to me?  Thank you.

I have the opposite problem. I have a SCSI tape drive yet when I installed
RH 6.0 out of the box it did not create the st module. How do I create it?

: ***** Steve Snyder *****




-- 
=============================================================================
- Bob Surenko                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/             finger for PGP key
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: named question
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:33:51 GMT

In our last episode (24 Jul 1999 21:49:55 -0400),
the artist formerly known as Paul Anderson said:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann) writes:
>
>>but
>>neither mentioned anything about /etc/named.conf (that I came across), and
>>I assumes that the information in /etc/named.boot supplied the necessary
>>pointers.  
>>
>The latest version of BIND has switched over to using named.conf, which is a
>different format from named.boot.

Makes more sense.  I'm still having problems getting reverse lookups to
work, and although the Windows machine can use my Linux box as a DNS
server, my FreeBSD machine can't (though it could use my ISP's
nameservers), so there's still a bit of work lest to do till its working
perfectly.

-- 
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.

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From: David Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Third hard drive
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:32:46 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are going to hate my answer, but the Win95 drive needs to be master
of IDE bus 0 (/dev/hda essentially) to boot Windows.  Then install LILO
to it.  You may have to place a small /boot partition at the beginning
of the Win95 drive with a kernel in it.  I did this with Partition Magic
and it works well.  Then boot the system from floppy and mount the root
fs where ever that ends up to reinstall LILO and setup a /boot mount on
the /dev/hda drive.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>  I have slackware running on a celeron 333.  I already have two IDE hard
> disks and one CDROM on /dev/hda1, /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdc respectively.
> I have no other OS on this machine and lilo uses the MBR to boot
> straight into linux.  Now I wish to add a third HDD (/dev/hdd1) with
> win95 just to play games that are not available to run on linux.  I
> already have win95 installed (using a different PC) on the new HDD.  I
> already connected the new HDD to my bus to see if it was seen at boot,
> which it was.
> 
> How to I make lilo offer me a choice of either booting into linux or
> into windows95?
> 
> I do not wish to mount the third drive when I boot into linux.  I just
> want to toggle between a "solitary" slackware box or a "solitary" Win95
> PC.
> Thanks,
> S K Ghori.
> 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Setting environment in bash shell?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 17:03:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7nidn3$924$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gordon Anderson wrote:
> The setenv command is not available in bash.

So you should do this instead:

VARIABLE=value
export VARIABLE

Or (in bash and other new-fangled sh-type shells)

export VARIABLE=value

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Recommendations: PPP+Proxy+POP
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:28:29 GMT

We have a small office (20 stations), and I would like to implement a
RedHat machine that will give everyone access to the internet through a
Proxy+PPP (we have a dedicated dialup account with a local ISP). Also I
would like to have an internal POP server for internal messaging, but I
would also like for everyone to be able to access their own personal
email accounts through the proxy.

I would appreciate any recommendations on software and/or setup ideas
(I have never setup anything like this before).


Thanks,
Clay
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Powering down with RH6.0
Date: 26 Jul 1999 17:07:17 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steven E Bourland wrote:

[reformatted because of highly brain-damaged line wrapping]

> When I first installed RH6.0 and 'shutdown -h now', the machine would
> actually power down on its own (I didn't have to hit the power switch).
> Being the lazy boy that I am, when I compiled a new kernel (2.2.10) and
> it quit powering down on its own, I was quite miffed.  I saw earlier
> posted re: Suse and this problem which said to add '-p' to the final line
> in rc.halt.

Did you enable CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF when you configured the kernel?

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is module st0 (SCSI tape drive) always loaded?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:14:46 GMT

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:12:37 GMT, Bob Surenko wrote:

>In comp.os.linux.hardware Steve Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: On my all-SCSI system (RedHat v6.0, kernel v2.2.10) I build the CD-ROM
>: and tape drive support as modules.  (These devices are rarely used so 
>: there's no need to have the device drivers for them occupy RAM all the
>: time.)  I notice, though, that the module for the SCSI tape drive, 
>: "st0.o", is loaded at boot time and never removed.
>
>: Can anyone explain this to me?  Thank you.
>
>I have the opposite problem. I have a SCSI tape drive yet when I installed
>RH 6.0 out of the box it did not create the st module. How do I create it?

I built my own v2.2.10 kernel, but you could do the same in the v2.2.5
shipped with RH 6.0 (if you installed the source files).  To build the
device driver:

>From within menuconfig, select:

        SCSI Support>>SCSI Tape Support

The entry in the .config file will look like this:

     CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
   

***** Steve Snyder *****




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From: "R. Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH5.2 and glibc2.1
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:08:44 -0600

I'm currently running RedHat 5.2, which is based on glibc 2.0.7. Some of
the binary packages that I have downloaded require glibc 2.1 in order to
run. I could just get the source and recompile the packages to run on
2.0.7, but I should probably upgrade anyway. My question is: how would I
go about this? Should I download the source for glibc 2.1 and compile
it? Or should I download an RPM of it and install it, say the RPM from
RH6.0? If I go with the latter method, what programs would I break? I've
heard that some apps built against 2.0.7 won't run properly with 2.1,
such as StarOffice. If this is true, is it possible to have both
versions installed and working? The last method would be to upgrade to
RH6.0, but I've no real reason to do so. Any ideas?
-- 
Dying is a very dull, dreary affair.  My advice to you is to have
nothing whatever to do with it.
                -- W. Somerset Maughm, his last words

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
From: Justin Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Initio SCSI help
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:19:54 -0700

I have the same setup on my linux box. All you have to do is edit
/etc/rc.d/rc.local to include the following:
/sbin/depmod -a
/sbin/insmod initio
/sbin/insmod sg

the sg is so you can burn cd-r's.  then reboot and you should be able to
mount the cdrom and burn cd's.

Justin Pratt

On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Edward J. Smiley Jr. wrote:

> I have the following Kernal installed: 2.2.9-19mdk.  This kernal is
> newer than the one you are talking about right?  In the Mandrake
> Installation, I did not include any Initio drivers.  So what should I do
> now.  Thanks for any help!
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [Posted and mailed]
> >
> > In article <7n2850$q4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >     Edward J. Smiley Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I have a Sony CDU-948 SCSI CD-writer and the Initio SCSI card that
> comes
> > > with the drive.  It is a 9100U, I believe.  Can someone help me with
> the
> > > drivers that are on there website.  From what I read from other
> posts is
> > > that they have a SCSI hard drive with the Initio card.  I already
> have
> > > linux installed and I just want to get my writer working.  Could
> someone
> > > please help!
> >
> > Initio drivers come standard with Linux kernels since late in the
> 2.0.x
> > series, so I suggest you upgrade to a kernel that includes the
> necessary
> > drivers.
> >
> > --
> > Rod Smith
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
> > NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
> > Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que
> >
> 
> --
> Ed Smiley
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <--Please Reply here!
> 
> 
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From: "Sardia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Permissions - why can a user delete a file not his own?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:14:50 +0200

you are right.
my apologies.


Sardia


Norman Levin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> No, s"t"icky - the t bit.  The s bit in the groupid area says all files
and
>directorys below this directory inherit the groupid of the directory.
>The "T" bit (in the 'rest of the world area' in the permissions) says, the
>remover of the file MUST be the owner.
>--
>Norman Levin
>vm/dynAmIX inc.



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From: Neil W Rickert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO and Multiple Linux Distribution installs
Date: 26 Jul 1999 15:54:25 -0500

"Don Whitlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I am currently running Caldera OpenLinux 2.2, Windows 98, WinNT 40, and
>Win2000 on a single machine and so far, everything works fine. I have lilo
>setup to handle the linux kernel and the NT boot manager.

>Caldera is installed across the following partitions
>/dev/hda7 = /
>/dev/hda8 = /usr
>/dev/sda1 = /home

>I installed RH6 last night, onto the following partitions:
>/dev/hda9 = /
>/dev/hda10 = /usr
>/dev/sda1 = /home (would like to share these between distributions.)

>How the heck would my lilo.conf look in order to do this? My working
>lilo.conf file in Caldera looks like:

You should start by deciding which system will be the controlling
system for lilo.  In what follows, I shall assume that it is your
caldera system..

>boot = /dev/hda
>install = /boot/boot.b
>message = /boot/message
>prompt
>timeout = 50

>other = /dev/hda1
>            label = win
>            table = /dev/hda

>image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.25-modular
>                label = caldera
>                root = /dev/hda7
>                vga = 274
>                read-only
>                append = "debug=2"
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

On the caldera system, do:

        mkdir /redhat  ## A directory were we shall mount the rh system.

Add a line to '/etc/fstab'

        /dev/hda9       /redhat         ext2    noauto          0       0

The effect of this line is that you will be able to
type (as root)

        mount /redhat

whenever you want that partition mounted.  You will have to mount the
/redhat partition whenever you run the lilo installer.

Now add a new section to lilo.conf:

image = /redhat/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15
                label = redhat
                root = /dev/hda9
                initrd = /redhat/boot/initrd-2.2.5-15.img
                read-only

>-----------------
>My working lilo.conf in Redhat for the linux portion of the config file
>looks like:

>image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15
>                label = redhat
>                root = /dev/hda9
>                initrd = /boot/initrd-2.2.5-15.img
>                read-only

>How would I combine these in order to boot into either distribution? I seem
>to have problems with the image, map, and install entries, since that
>directory exists on each distribution's root filesystem.

>Anyone else got this working? Is there another way to do it?

>Thanks in advance for your help.

>Don



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