Linux-Misc Digest #218, Volume #20               Sat, 15 May 99 17:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Check MD5 Hash Across a Directory Tree (Eddie Atherton)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Jim 
Richardson)
  HOW do I make command aliases always available? (Frank)
  Re: HOW do I make command aliases always available? (brian moore)
  Re: Check MD5 Hash Across a Directory Tree (brian moore)
  Re: HOW do I make command aliases always available? (Bruce Stephens)
  Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?) (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: Sendmail can't start in RH (Malware)
  In defence of UNIX man pages ("Matt")
  Re: Help with Netscape and downloading files ("William B. Cattell")
  Re: LS-120 ("Cameron Spitzer")
  Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (Steve Lamb)
  Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with 
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) (Stephen E. Halpin)
  Re: HOW do I make command aliases always available? (Floyd Davidson)
  Re: HELP : PPP Server ?? (Clifford Kite)
  CDR and kernel ("Fabien Bezagu")
  Re: No space left on device ("D. Vrabel")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eddie Atherton)
Subject: Check MD5 Hash Across a Directory Tree
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:51:15 GMT

Hi,

I've just downloaded a HUGE archive (don't ya just love cable) and I
want to make sure that it's all OK.  Included are text files with the
MD5 Hash values.

Is there a program that will run down the tree and check these keys so
that I can verify that all the downloads are clean.

Actually, the ability to generate these hash's would also be useful
for something else I'm working on.


-Cheers,

Eddie

Remove ONYERBIKE to e-mail me.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 15 May 1999 18:36:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 14 May 1999 08:19:33 +0100, 
 Jon Skeet, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> >> I'd guess that at least two thirds of the people I know have been 
>> >> unemployed long enough to collect EI.
>> 
>> >But they haven't been substantially helped by the system?
>> 
>> I think all but one of them have ended up behind on the deal.  I was paid
>> something like $250 by the EI system, after having several hundred dollars
>> taken from my paychecks.  I got employed in three weeks anyway; if I'd just
>> not applied for EI, I would have been nearly as well off, and if I'd never
>> had to pay for it, I would have been dramatically better off.
>
>Sure - but that's because you were employed three weeks later. What about 
>those who *don't* find a job that quickly? It's those people who need the 
>most help - and it's those people who are likely to be in the situations 
>you outlined before where some money *now* can make a big difference.
> 
>> Keep in mind the indirect effects.  How are people affected by the people who
>> are encouraged by misdesign of the system to put up with it rather than trying
>> to get a job, and, thus, who are less productive than they otherwise would be?
>> Less wealth, same number of people, people are worse off.
>
>I'd rather have that than people dying because they simply can't afford 
>to buy food.
>
>To me, the definition of civilisation is that instead of being survival 
>of the fittest, it's survival of as many people as possible - even if the 
>*average* living condition suffers slightly.
>
>-- 

So, in order to be considered civilised. You can start sendint ~50% of
your take home pay to refugee centers in the third world. After all,
if you have to move to a smaller house, that's ok.


-- 
Jim Richardson
        www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank)
Subject: HOW do I make command aliases always available?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:56:56 GMT

I have 2 problems:

1. i cannot run a script, created by me, from the command line. its
simple script containing aliases. nothing happens, the aliases are not
available after running the script. i chmod a+x the file. I _think_
i'm using bash.

2. I want some command aliases to be available every time any user
logs in.

I tried by putting a line in rc.local like this:
/usr/aliasscript
where aliascript is an executable script containing aliases. If i fix
problem #1, will this method make my command aliases available at
every login?

thanks

Frank
(sorry for the newbie question but I did spend a considerable amount
of time looking docs for an answer before coming here)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: HOW do I make command aliases always available?
Date: 15 May 1999 19:11:04 GMT

On Sat, 15 May 1999 18:56:56 GMT, 
 Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have 2 problems:
> 
> 1. i cannot run a script, created by me, from the command line. its
> simple script containing aliases. nothing happens, the aliases are not
> available after running the script. i chmod a+x the file. I _think_
> i'm using bash.

Yes, they are.  The problem is that they are only available in the shell
that invoked them.  So if you run "myaliases", it will start up /bin/sh,
add a bunch of aliases, and then exit... taking the shell with the
aliases with it.

You need to run it within the current shell.  This is done by "sourcing"
the file (ie, telling the shell to pretend you typed it in, instead of
executing it in a subshell).  To do this do: ". myalaises" or "source
myaliases".

> 2. I want some command aliases to be available every time any user
> logs in.
> 
> I tried by putting a line in rc.local like this:
> /usr/aliasscript
> where aliascript is an executable script containing aliases. If i fix
> problem #1, will this method make my command aliases available at
> every login?

Nope: it won't.  It'll only set the aliases in that shell, which will,
again, promptly exit.

Try /etc/profile -- this is executed for every 'login shell' (as opposed
to subshells).

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Check MD5 Hash Across a Directory Tree
Date: 15 May 1999 19:21:32 GMT

On Sat, 15 May 1999 18:51:15 GMT, 
 Eddie Atherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've just downloaded a HUGE archive (don't ya just love cable) and I
> want to make sure that it's all OK.  Included are text files with the
> MD5 Hash values.
> 
> Is there a program that will run down the tree and check these keys so
> that I can verify that all the downloads are clean.

Not off the shelf, but should be trivial to do with Perl.

> Actually, the ability to generate these hash's would also be useful
> for something else I'm working on.

is 'use MD5;' in Perl easy enough?

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HOW do I make command aliases always available?
Date: 15 May 1999 20:21:00 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank) writes:

> 1. i cannot run a script, created by me, from the command line. its
> simple script containing aliases. nothing happens, the aliases are not
> available after running the script. i chmod a+x the file. I _think_
> i'm using bash.

No.  This is normal.  Aliases, environment variables, and the current
working directory, work on a per-process basis.  Scripts executed from
a shell get executed in their own process (a copy of the process
executing the shell), so changes a script makes to any of these won't
have any effect on the shell.  (Environment variables and the current
working directory get inherited---so the script itself will be
executed with the same environment variables as the shell (normally).
Other things get inherited too.)

> 2. I want some command aliases to be available every time any user
> logs in.
> 
> I tried by putting a line in rc.local like this: /usr/aliasscript
> where aliascript is an executable script containing aliases. If i
> fix problem #1, will this method make my command aliases available
> at every login?

You can't fix problem #1.  It's a design feature.  You must arrange
for these aliases to be defined in the shell.  Shells read files at
startup, so sticking the alias definitions in one of those files would
do.  /etc/bashrc and ~/.bashrc get read by bash, I think.  You could
also have a line "source /usr/aliasscript" or ". /usr/aliasscript" in
one of these files, and that would do too.

You can find what shell you get when you login by looking at the entry
in /etc/passwd.  It's probably bash, but it may be worth checking.
zsh, for example, doesn't read /etc/bashrc or ~/.bashrc.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Date: 13 May 1999 11:07:17 -0500

In article <7hdn5j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Excuse me? Ever heard of sendmail? On a master box script downloads the
>relevant new versions (including dependency-required ones), dumps them
>on a local fs and mails you the list. It's your choice WTF you will install.

What does that get you?  If you have a decent network connection being
local or not doesn't make a lot of difference, and if want to keep
local copies I can just mirror an ftp site without any special
os-version dependent programs.

>As for autorpm - does it track library dependencies? If it simply plonks
>everything new on the local fs or, worse yet, blindly installs it it is not
>what I was talking about.

Yes, I think it does all that.  If you track the official update
rpms the dependencies would all be met anyway.

>Cool. I know completely well that every version of anything has bugs.
>Thank you for reminding. But then there is a question of what you are
>calling beta and what you are calling release. Reinstall? It's not a
>fscking Windows.

No, you are the one who has bought into the Windows trap of being
married to a single distributor.  What if your next hardware upgrade
is to an Alpha?  What if the small group of maintainers gets hit
by a beer truck?  I don't want to give up the choice of switching
to anything that will continue to compile and run my own code.

>       hear, hear... Again, it's a question of the point when you are
>releasing your stuff. Bugs will be there, no doubt. But here we had two
>distributions who did the same transition. During the same period. Interval
>from relatively stable libc5-based system to glibc-based one was the same.
>One team released 3 versions. Another released 1. Surprise, surprise, first
>2 variants from the first team were about as buggy as beta version of the
>second at the corresponding moments. Difference being: the second team had
>slightly higher standards wrt the level of bugginess in release and didn't
>call the thing stable until it really became stable. It had bugs, indeed.
>Any system has.

Are you trying to make some point here?  Something mystical about
guessing the number of unfound bugs in an unreleased product before
uttering the sacred 'stable' word?  It is *marketing hype*. Get
used to it.  Some companies pour vast quantities of resources into
testing and quality control and you will still find bugs when you
try to put the product in production.  You really can't beat reading
a Linux newsgroup two weeks after a major release to get the real
info on bugs that show up in production.  For some reason, *bsd
groups aren't the same.  Even when the code fails horribly in
operation, no one ever admits that there have ever been any problems
with it.

>       Linux bugs? Cool. Really. Redhat != Linux. Please, stop this
>idiocy. There *are* bugs in Linux. In the kernel, that is. As well as
>there are bugs in FreeBSD kernel. But bugs in question are *bugs* *of*
>*a* *distribution*. One of several distributions based on Linux kernel.

This has been exactly my point all along.  I don't want to use
any distribution-specific feature that will make it difficult
to replace everything with a different one.  I only require
something sufficiently unix-like that it will compile my own
code as long as it comes with all the usual services.  

>And talk about Linux bugs belongs to linux-kernel, not here.
>       As for the packaging systems - get a clue. The fact that RH
>doesn't provide a decent one doesn't mean that such beasts are useless.

So far cvs seems to be the only one that I can count on to work
with the next operating system I might want to use.  As far as
maintaining individual parts of the distribution itself, that's
become sort of like tracking the chips on a motherboard.  You
can spend a lot of time changing one and the rest will still
be out of date.  Why should I have to deal with that (and the
fact that bugs in the dependency checks are as likely as everywhere
else that untested combinations happen) when others are doing a
good job of it?

  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Malware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Sendmail can't start in RH
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:24:53 +0200

Hi Kelvin,

you wrote:
> I found that the sendmail stop after a while when the system start, when
> I look at the log in /var/log/maillog, it shows:
> 
> ==============================================================
> May 15 09:21:45 CX346166-A sendmail[668]: problem creating SMTP socket
> May 15 09:21:50 CX346166-A sendmail[668]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
> opendaemonsocket: cannot bind: Address already in use
[...]
> and here is my /etc/inetd.conf
[...]
> smtp stream  tcp  nowait  root    /usr/bin/smtpd smtpd

Comment out above line. Else inetd does listen on port 25 (smtp) and
does try to start smtpd when a connection is established.


Malware

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From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: In defence of UNIX man pages
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:58:00 +0930

I'm a university student who in order to share an opinion requires an
"experts" opinion to back up my point of view.  If you are an expert, please
read on.

Our task is to criticise the UNIX man pages and rewrite our selected man
page topics for a novice user.
The following is an extract from my report which I am planning to include,
but I will require an "experts" opinion to back me up.  If you agree with
what I have written below or have something to add to my 'defensive
criticism of the UNIX man pages, I would appreciate an e-mail.

I'm still working on the wording and grammar so please excuse.

"The UNIX man page format is similar to that used to describe most command
line operating system commands.  This format was acceptable not long ago, as
a majority of computer users would have been using ms-DOS and would
therefore have a fair understanding of command line operating system
documentation.

The post ms-DOS generation of users have been lured into a world which uses
�point and click� to control a computer.  Most will have never been exposed
to a command line operating system.  New graphical operating systems such as
MS-Windows have become very popular with a vast majority of the computer
population.  The skills of reading command line documentation have been
lost, so if a novice user is placed in command line environment confusion
abounds.

It is because of a strong swing to graphical operating systems that the UNIX
man pages are both unfamiliar and difficult for novice users to understand,
not because they were poorly written."




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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help with Netscape and downloading files
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:34:30 GMT

Steve Sauls wrote:
> 
> I am new to Linux so please bear with me.  I installed Linux 5.2 from
> RedHat.  It ships with Netscape 4.07.  I can not download a file of any
> size via HTTP.  I can however download large files via FTP.  HTTP just
> cuts off after a period of time.
> 
> My point is that I am trying to download WordPerfect and I can not via
> HTTP.  I can not find the FTP site to get it via FTP.
> 
> Has anyone had this problem and what should I do short of buying it?
> 
> Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thanks for the help in advance.

Steve - a couple questions about your configuration...

1) what type of internet access do you have (dial-up 56K, 33.6, ISDN,
cable modem)?

2) how much disk space do you have available to Linux?

When downloading via HTTP I had problems due to lost connection
(dial-up).  FTP transfers seemed to have worked better over dial-up -
just my impression.

Another thought - do you have disk space accounting turned loaded and
turned on.  I haven't messed with it on Linux but I have seen similar
situations where running up against a disk space restriction killed
downloads.

Good luck,

Bill
-- 
==============================================================
http://members.home.com/wcattell
==============================================================
Park not thy Harley in the darkness of thine garage, that it 
may collect dust for want of being oft ridden. Ride thy Harley 
with thy brethren, and rejoice in the spirit of the road.
==============================================================

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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LS-120
Date: 15 May 1999 20:36:31 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Dave Spensley;
>
> DS> But I'd still like to know how to low-level format the damn things under
> DS> Linux.
>
>mkfs?  Works for me, on some disks whose sectoring was at best AFU due
>to a hardware fault when the drive was attached to another machine (this
>one)

The mkfs command does not perform the function known in the MS-DOS world
as a "low level format."  Mkfs requires that the media already contain
tracks and sector marks.  If you bulk-erase a floppy you will find mkfs
can't do anything with it.  That's because mkfs performs a write(2) which
fails on unformatted media.

The two commands I've seen that perform a "low level format" are fdformat
and SuperFormat.  They're using special system calls, not write(2).
According to the superformat manpage, it's only good for formats up to
about 3.8 MB.  This may be unfinished business for the ATAPI/EIDE driver
that communicates with the LS-120 drive.  Perhaps the writable CD-ROM
formatting utilities will work on an LS-120 drive.

Cameron

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: 14 May 1999 23:36:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 13 May 1999 01:16:11 +0200, Serge Terryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>But there is only one FreeBSD.

    There is only one Windows as well.  Go away, FUD boy.

>When you install from an ftp server, then FreeBSD connect you correctly to
>the server and the path of your current version. All you have to do is click
>on install en FreeBSD do the rest.

    Unless the current version is no longer availabe, then you don't get squat
unless it has been deemed worthy enough to reside on the FreeBSD servers.
Sorry, but I've run into too many cases where software was unavailable from a
"current" ports tree to rely on it.

>This is very simple and important, you are sure that the software you
>download works on your version and you dont have messages as .. missing ....
>when you try the software, and if you mis something, you don't have to search
>a half hour to find what you need for your version , it's there under your
>nose.  Missing something on linux, go on the net and search. You need a
>library, you find it en you download it, and  then you will run the program
>and it don't work, de Lib you download had the correct name, but don't work
>on your version of  linux, what a mass.

    First off, it is MESS.  Secondly, get the to Debian.  Gee, I want to
install gimp.  I didn't have AALIB, GTK and a few other libraries installed.
Did I have to search a half hour to find what I need for my version?  No.
Debian popped up a dialog with those required items already selected.  I
accepted, it downloaded and installed them.  *plonk*

-- 
         Steve C. Lamb         | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
         ICQ: 5107343          | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact 
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:39:03 GMT

On 13 May 1999 12:30:24 +1000, Gregory Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin) writes:
>
>>  Also, how do you have
>> a process access two tape drives in two different groups when
>> the version of UNIX you use allows a process to exist in only
>> one group at a time? 
>
>So you're running V6 are you?  On what hardware?  Multiple groups has
>been in all versions of Unix more-or-less forever.

Ill give you credit for getting the V right.  To quote from
page 26 of "UNIX Network Programming", by W. Richard Stevens
(this was in 1990):

    System V restricts you to belong to a single group at a time.

"The Design of the UNIX Operating System" by Maurice J. Bach
barely mentions groups, and the APIs offer no means to support
concurrent membership in more than one group at a time.

Moving on to the BSD man pages, the setgid API call didnt appear
until Version 7 AT&T UNIX, which makes me wonder if V6 had any
meaningful notion of groups at all.  The man pages from 1971 on
Dennis Ritchie's web site indicate that chmod only addressed user
and non-user permissions, where the execute bit was shared between
those two catagories.  The BSD man pages also indicate that the
'setgroups' API was not available until BSD4.2.  You had to use a
compile time constant to define how many groups were available, so
if you recompiled your kernel to extend the number of groups, you
had to recompile all the applications which reference NGROUPS as
well, including those which come with the OS to manipulate the
group list.  This was damn near impossible to do on a commercial
system where you dont get source.  The man pages for the BSD
distribution indicate that the POSIX sysconf function to acquire
the number of groups dynamically didnt appear in the BSD until BSD4.4.

Using "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating System"
by Marshall Kirk McKusick, Keith Bostic, Michael J. Karels and
John S. Quarterman for a timeline of UNIX releases, setgid would not
have been available until 1978, almost ten years into UNIX.  Setgroups
would not have been available until 1984, and then >only under BSD
derived systems<, a full >15 years< into the 30 year history of UNIX.
The ability to dynamically retrieve the number of groups supported by
a given compile of the BSD kernel didnt seem to appear until 1993,
which is at the 80% mark of the lifetime of UNIX.  Six years of
thirty is hardly "more-or-less forever," and there are plenty of
machines which were deployed before this time which continue to run
today relatively unchanged in operational environments.

I can say that I was using a real-time version of System Vr3 in
1993, and it was like having your hands tied behind your back,
your feet shackled, and dirty socks stuffed in your mouth.  So
much of what a Berkeley user of many years experience would take
for granted was missing that it was almost unusable.  Historically
speaking it wasnt that long ago...

-Steve

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: HOW do I make command aliases always available?
Date: 15 May 1999 20:00:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have 2 problems:
>
>1. i cannot run a script, created by me, from the command line. its
>simple script containing aliases. nothing happens, the aliases are not
>available after running the script. i chmod a+x the file. I _think_
>i'm using bash.

When you run a script from the command line, your login shell
spawns a subshell which executes the commands in the script (and
then that subshell exits).  Your aliases are known only to the
shell that ran them, which was the subshell, not your login
shell.

If you "source" a file, it will be executed by the current shell.

        . aliasscript

is the command, and then the aliases can be used.


>2. I want some command aliases to be available every time any user
>logs in.
>
>I tried by putting a line in rc.local like this:
>/usr/aliasscript
>where aliascript is an executable script containing aliases. If i fix
>problem #1, will this method make my command aliases available at
>every login?

The rc files exec'd at startup are run by a root shell, so that
root shell enjoyed the availability of your aliases...  until it
exited.

For bash, you need to read the man page section on INVOCATION,
where there is a description of which init files are read by
different kinds of shells.  All login shells begin by reading
the file /etc/profile, so whatever you add to that file will be
seen by any user's login shell.

However, aliases are not inherited by subshells...  so a script
file will not be able to use aliases from /etc/profile, because
while it is read by login shells, it is not read by non-login
shells.  To accomplish that it must be in the user's own init
files.  See the man page for details.

One way to accomplish initializing bash is to have a file
${HOME}/.profile, which sets environment variables and does
anything you only want done by a login shell.  Setting the
PATH environment would be an example.  Another is setting
the ENV variable to an init file to be read by non-interactive
shells (scripts).  Non-login interactive shells read 
$HOME/.bashrc, and it is convenient to set ENV to that.

  ENV=${HOME}/.bashrc

which then makes it the place to put all of your alias commands.

  Floyd

-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Pictures of the North Slope at  <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>

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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP : PPP Server ??
Date: 15 May 1999 14:54:32 -0500

Eric ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: It's my first time to use Linux. I setup a Linux at home.
: And I hope my friends can use their PC(ms-windows) to dial into my
: Linux.  : How can I do this? What should I prepare ?

This should help:

http://www.swcp.com/~jgentry/dialin2.html

--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com>                       Not a guru. (tm)
/* Speak softly and carry a +6 two-handed sword. */

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From: "Fabien Bezagu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CDR and kernel
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:54:07 +0200

Hi All,

I just installed a scsi Panasonic/Matshita CD-R (CW-7502) and I have a pb
under linux. Cdrecord says it can't inquiry my Cd-Recorder. It can't do
a -scanbus or anything else also.  My device string is dev=/dev/scd1:0,6,0
but it seems the good device would be the sgx where x is a number. On my
system (an old slack one) I only have sgy where y are letters from a to h.
It seems there is a pb with the kernel to redirect the scsi recorder to the
good devices.

Any idea ?

Thanks in advance...

Fabien
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No space left on device
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:07:42 +0100

On 15 May 1999, Bill Unruh wrote:

> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> g gilmore 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >My HD filled up so I cleared somethings out and made space. But
> >still when logged in as an user I cannot make directories, write to
> >files, compile programs  --anything that writes to anything. I get an
> >error message that says 'No space left on device'. I believe there is
> >space. Root does not have this problem.
> 
> The filesystem saves 10% of the partition space for root, so that when
> the fs fills up, root is able to get in to rescue things. If it filled
> up completely, root might well also be locked out and you would have to
> reformat and reinstall ( a horrible solution to the problem).
Surely you wouldn't have to do this.  Couldn't you just boot using a
rescue disk and mount the offending filesystem.

> Do df.
> The available space is that availale to the user. Teh total space is
> taht availableto root. 
> 
> 
> 

David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


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