Linux-Misc Digest #242, Volume #20 Mon, 17 May 99 20:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help! My sound stops working after I stop my sound apps a few times. (Chris
Wilson)
Re: In defence of UNIX man pages (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: telnet and script (Frank da Cruz)
Re: Half-Life Server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Registry in Linux ??? ("Thomas Scholz")
Re: Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key (Jason Mcconochie)
Re: Token-ring cards (bill davidsen)
Re: multi volume tar (tar -cM > /dev/hdb) ("J�rgen Exner")
Re: Help with suid (NF Stevens)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Wilson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help! My sound stops working after I stop my sound apps a few times.
Date: 17 May 1999 22:51:53 GMT
Ben Sandler wrote:
>Try running "ps aux" and see if you have any old copies of mpg123 or
>other sound programs running. Also try killing maudio.
I tried runing ps aux as you suggested, and there were no old copies of any
sound programs running. As for "maudio", I did a find on that name and
there no programs were listed.
Any other ideas? This is a rather annoying problem that I'd really like to
solve. However, I don't know how to proceed.
--Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: In defence of UNIX man pages
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:11:57 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bev wrote:
>Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Christiansen wrote:
>> > [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
>
>IF ANYBODY REPLIES TO THIS, P*L*E*A*S*E don't send me a courtesy copy.
I shall not send you a courtesy copy, I promise 8)
>> >In comp.os.linux.misc,
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy) writes:
>> >:but now I see that the Linux man page has no examples,
>> >:while at least 2 other Unix systems I have used do.
>> >:In fact, Linux is far worse in this regard
>> >:than most Unix systems -- I can't think why.
>> > ^other
>> >
>> >Yes, the Linux manpages are an embarrassment. Take, for example, the
>> >manpages for tty(4) or diff(1) on a Linux systems compared with those
>> >on a BSD system. It would be laughable if it didn't make you cry.
>> >
>> >And that's why abandoned Linux for BSD whenever I need to get real
>> >work done.
>>
>> See the Linux documentation project how you can help, though I think
>> if man pages are a reason to change the OS you've a real problem.
>
>Erm, if you don't understand something, writing the documentation for it isn't
>likely to result in anything useful. I was going to say that that's what
>happened, but it didn't -- it was written for people who already understand
>but who just need a tiny reminder occasionally.
Regarding that poster ... I not quite buy it that Tom would be lost
without decent manual pages, you ought to know *that* guy.
>Somebody else mentioned the goodness of somebody's man intro facility. Just
>tried it. First good belly laugh of the day -- much thanks!
>
>> BTW, the info pages (use info, better pinfo) come with a lot of
>> examples and if it comes to learn the basic stuff, there are many
>> good books available.
>
>Yeah, but so many trees have already died needlessly. The "command --help"
>structure (is this universal?) is better in many ways than the man pages; it's
>shorter and gives you a hint about what you might want to look for.
>
>Just tried info -- which I have fallen into by accident upon occasion. Spent
>a few minutes learning that delete means page up (I NEVER trust the delete key
>to do anything I want done, this makes me very uneasy) and a very few other
>things. Have hyperlinks made us too impatient? I really don't want to learn
>a new word processor in order find out more information about useful commands.
Try pinfo and well, the FSF decided to go the info path and the Linux
man pages maintainers are not quite happy with that either. I will assume
you've written a man page or two (or many) for your own stuff and if
so you will know it is not that much fun.
Most people who write them for Linux do not get paid for it, they've
other things to do too. You get what you pay for as the saying goes.
But now let's see ... I've got ~1400 man pages in /usr/share/man only ...
now it should be possible to find, let's say 700 Linux people in the world
that (a) can write a decent English and (b) know enough to set up a decent
man page ... it should not take more than one week plus some time of
proof reading by people of the category (c) like me 8)
I read once about this motherly advice ... "don't sit there and complain,
do something" ... well ...
Minor note ... since the glibc-2.1.x is more than near I think this is
can be worth a look too ...
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/7908799/toc.htm
... and I've got a local copy on my machine.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz)
Subject: Re: telnet and script
Date: 17 May 1999 22:55:18 GMT
In article <Ja%%2.105$KY1.7206@nntp1>,
Kurt C. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: i need to start a telnet session and then run a script file that resides
: locally, but emulates keystrokes at the remote location. is this possible?
:
Yes. You can use C-Kermit, which is (among other things) a Telnet client
that includes a script programming language:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
For examples of automated Telnet sessions, see the Kermit script library:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/scriptlib.html
- Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Half-Life Server
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:20:17 GMT
You have got Suse...not Red Hat.
go to
http://ftpsearch.lycos.com
search for:
libreadline.so.3
download the i386-version from any server
copy to /lib
done.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas Siegerist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can somebody tell me how the Half-Life Server for Linux is to install
??
>
> please use my E-Mail ! thanx alot,
> i always get the error message: "error in loading shared libraries:
> libreadline.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory"
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From: "Thomas Scholz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Registry in Linux ???
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:18:55 +0200
Ok, let me try to explain what I'm looking for.
Let's put aside Unix/Linux, Windows and any other os.
Let's look at an os as an object that provides basic
functionality (file system, user-hw interface) and a
platform for objects with more "advanced" functionality
(maybe editors, CAD, StarOffice, ...).
Administration of these "advanced" objects is currently
the task of the sysadmin. He can do a good job or not.
So why not using the os to administrate these objects?
Obviously there is a need for this (Packet Manager,
Installer/Uninstaller, Cleaner).
You might ask what properties of these objects could be
administrated? It begins with the location (although this
is just a question of how much space is available on which
partition/HDD). Relations to other functionality. User
access. App access. Maybe even general behaviour
(preferences). Different versions, ...
Well, what use do I think would that have? It would make
system-administration much easier. It would provide a
secure way to control the functionality of an os. It would
give a complete overview of this functionality. Don't
care about wrong paths, missing dlls, stuff like this.
Back to Unix/Linux/Windows: Some have mentioned RPM as a
tool for this task. But, as others said, it's in the
estimation of the sysadmin for which functionality he's
using such tools. The windows-registry, regarding this
task, is just ???????. However, it could be considered
as an attempt, which was the reason for my original
question.
My opinion is, that this task should be a basic
functionality of the object os, as it provides the
platform and is in the only position to do this task
properly. Sure this is a complex thing and lots of
details would have to be solved. But why not dreaming
of a perfect os :-)
Thanks for reading all this
Thomas Scholz
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From: Jason Mcconochie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:20:49 +1000
I had the same problem under RH6 and gdm. I tried deleting the ~/.Xauthority
file. That didnt work. I tried deleting the /var/gdm/:0.xauth file. That didnt
work either.
My temporary fix was to log on. Activate a xterm using a button, and the in
that window setenv DISPLAY :0.0. Then do a xhost +. The I can bring up xterms
from wherever.
I still havent found the cause. But I just moved my computer to a different
subnet and hence a different IP. So, if gdm store the IP address somewhere for
authentication maybe theres a clue.
If anyone know Pls help !
On Mon, 17 May 1999, D. Vrabel wrote:
>On Mon, 17 May 1999, Khairul Azmi Abu Bakar wrote:
>
>>
>> I don;t know why but after upgrading my pc to redhat 6.0, i could not run
>> any xwindows application from an xterm windows. The only way to run it is
>> by clicking the icon. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
>Delete the ~/.Xauthority file.
>
>David
>--
>David Vrabel
>Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Token-ring cards
Date: 17 May 1999 22:27:13 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Fulajtar Pal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I have a 3com Velocity ISA16/4 token-ring card. Does anybody know,
| where can i find Linux driver for it?
| In the kernel I found only two supported cards. No more cards has Linux
| support?
I was of the opinion that this card was either 100% compatible with the
4/16 or had a compatible mode. There is a 3Com card which is compatible,
but I would have to go to tape backups to find the number at this late
date.
I assume you have tried the recent TR driver (ibmtr) without luck. It
was deeply broken for a long time, and now works but seems to only use
half the shared memory, or a quarter if it's double buffered. In any
case it works:
tr0 Link encap:16/4 Mbps TR HWaddr 08:00:5A:4F:5C:53
inet addr:192.168.137.118 Bcast:192.168.137.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:2000 Metric:1
RX packets:43821334 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:19834359 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
Interrupt:9 Base address:0xa20
I hear there's finally a PCI driver, but I don't know where to find it.
--
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valid, though unintended, recipient. Always check the recipient's
address carefully when sending personal information, such as credit
card numbers, death threats or offers of sexual services.
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: multi volume tar (tar -cM > /dev/hdb)
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:46:57 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Paul Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7hpuh0$sat$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I've looked in all the HOWTO's I can find, and don't seem to be able to
> find any help with this, can anyone help via email (please note
> anti-spam measure: _at_) or posting?
> If I want to backup a directory structure that is larger than 100Mb (IE
> the capacity of 1 Zip disk) can I say tar -cM > /dev/hdb if /dev/hdb is
> my zip drive?
What an odd way to specify the archive device. Why are you writing to
STDOUT and then redirecting the output to /dev/hdb?
Tar ist just writing into the pipe (which is unlimited by definition). How
should tar know, if the Zip is full or not? It doesn't even know that the
shell is redirecting the archive into a block device. It's amazing that
shell creates the "-" file automatically when it can't write to /dev/hdb any
more instead of just crashing with "output pipe full".
Use "tar -cMf /dev/hdb" instead, probably that will work.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Help with suid
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:53:06 GMT
David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I made pppd suid root, so that any user can connect to my isp. However, after a
>certain amount of time (or possibly with some action that I don't realize
>I'm doing), the suid bit gets turned off. Why is this, and how can I fix
>it? Thanks.
Check /etc/permissions. This will list system files and what their
group/owner and permissions ought to be. A daily/weekly cron job
will check these and reset any that differ from the list in
/etc/permissions.
Norman
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