Linux-Misc Digest #244, Volume #20 Mon, 17 May 99 22:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (John S. Dyson)
Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
fdformat - Is it defective in RedHat 6.0? ("William T. Trotter")
Re: In defence of UNIX man pages (Robert Hull)
Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (Aqeel Mahesri)
Re: proc filesystem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (Darren Greer)
Re: Printing into file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: dhcp on Solaris ("J. P. Michel")
ATI vid card & Xwindows HELP please (robert)
Re: Can an Oracle network computer connect to Linux server? (Sean OC)
Re: In defence of UNIX man pages (Bev)
hilfe f�r Internetverbindung aufbau mit ISDN und Suse 6.1 ("joel Acclassato")
retrieve files from src rpm (Mike Wang)
Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!! (Gilles Pelletier)
Re: Diald dials out every 15 minutes (Frank Hahn)
Kernel 2.2.7 Error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: sticky shift keys in linux (Colin Watson)
Re: Debian: still viable? ("Cameron Spitzer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Date: 17 May 1999 22:27:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb) writes:
> On 16 May 1999 10:32:46 +0200, Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> SL> That is my point though, the tree is, by design, out of
>> SL> date. The last
>> SL> time I checked the ports tree FTPs the source directly from
>> SL> the author's site. With a few thousand programs in the ports
>
>>As any packaging system is always out of date.
>
> Not in the manner I am describing. When one of the authors changes
> something on his site, ports is out of date. Debian's system, OTOH, is not
> affected by that. Sure, the program is out of date, but you can still
> download the package itself and install it. From what I understand not
> everything in ports is stored in any central repository. That means the
> index, by design, is out of date with the contents. Is that clearer?
>
The ports system accomodates software that isn't licensed with a license
that is acceptable for redistribution. In that case, ports is flexible.
By demanding that the software be redistributable, then the packaging
mechanism isn't nearly as flexible. The main reason for ports not
always being able to provide the needed version of the desired code,
is licensing. Is that clearer?
--
John | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone?
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:42:48 GMT
In article <7hpruv$uj9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there anyone willing to lend me their SuSE CDs to make a copy? I
> purchased version 5.3, but I would like to upgrade. Of course I will
pay
> shipping. I live in Pennsylvania.
That is illegal, there is licensed software onboard; but here is
another solution: (from a recent post)
...
| I was pleasantly surprised to find that http://www.chumbo.com sells
| SuSE 6.1 for around $23 plus another $5 for shipping.
|
| I really like Suse and KDE.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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From: "William T. Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fdformat - Is it defective in RedHat 6.0?
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:56:21 GMT
I am running RedHat 6.0 and have been updating
the kernels regularly. For this reason, I am
frequently using fdformat to erase a floppy,
and then using dd to put a backup copy of the
kernel on disk for emergency purposes. It seems
to me that with fairly high frequency, fdformat
reports an error, usually of the sort "read xxxx and
expected yyyy at cylinder zz". This used to happen
quite rarely, but I notice that I am throwing away
a lot of floppies these days. Has anybody else
noticed this behavior - or is it just that most of
my floppies are bad. Tom Trotter
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From: Robert Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: In defence of UNIX man pages
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:29:39 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles E Taylor IV
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Robert Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On the contrary, a good *technical* manual will have the detailed
>> syntax, but will leave the examples to the User Guide
>
>So you are suggesting that Perry's be split up into Perry's Chemical
>Engineer's Techincal Manual and Perry's Chemical Engineer's User
>Guide? ;)
>
I am talking about the subject under discussion - not some hypothetical
book(s) that have nothing to do with a *technical* manual about
Information Technology.
If you feel the need to split your biology textbooks from first grade,
please do not ask my opinion. If you feel the need to split your Ph.D.
thesis along some arbitrary lines, you can also abstain from asking my
opinion.
Now to get back to the subject of man pages - they are not meant to be a
substitute for your Chemical Engineering manual, but a *technical*
manual about IT. In that context, I repeat that a good *technical*
manual will leave the examples to the User's Guide
--
Robert Talking to yourself - first sign of madness
Answering yourself back - first sign of schizophrenia
I go one better: If I don't like the answer ...
I put it to a majority vote
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From: Aqeel Mahesri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:02:58 -0700
All of our CS course readers' reference sections on emacs begin:
"In the interests of truth, beauty, and justice -- and to undo, in some small
part, the damage Berkeley has done by foisting vi on an already-unhappy world --
Emacs will be the official CS(course number) text editor this semester."
UC Berkeley has officially appologized for the creation of the
not-much-better-than-Windows-Notepad editor vi. Why do people still keep using
it?
"Thomer M. Gil" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
> 95/98/NT and many other operating systems.
>
> The Vi Lovers Home Page:
> http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html
>
> The Vi Lovers Home Page contains much Vi related info and links to:
> - Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
> - Vi FAQs,
> - Tutorials,
> - FTP sites,
> - jokes and the like,
> - and much more.
>
> The Vi Lovers Home Page:
> http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html
>
> Thomer M. Gil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: proc filesystem
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:59:52 GMT
In article <7ho7vv$q1v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Maybe someone in this group could answer this question I have about
> /proc. How come when I type 'mount' at the command-line, the line
for
> /proc is listed as "none on /proc type /proc (rw)"? Does this mean
that
> the proc fs is not mounted since it should say /proc instead of none?
> Probably a stupid question, but I'm just curious.
No, you question isn't stupid, really. Did you try "ls -l /proc"
to see if there was anything there. Also, 'proc' is a pseudo
filesystem, really it is just a window into the kernel's innards.
Check out the following (search for kcore):
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/faqs/linux-faq/Linux-FAQ
Hope this is of some utility.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Greer)
Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:10:20 GMT
When I first used the vi (In college), I hated it. I ripped on it all
day long. I found scripts to remove teh extra ^M characters in my
files transfered from windows just so I wouldn't have to use the vi.
But, after I started using linux, and the vi, I grew to love it. Its
an acquired taste. Once someone master the commands in vi, you can
really "scream" with your text editing. Its something you have to
invest some time in,
Darren
On Mon, 17 May 1999 17:02:58 -0700, Aqeel Mahesri
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-->All of our CS course readers' reference sections on emacs begin:
-->"In the interests of truth, beauty, and justice -- and to undo, in some small
-->part, the damage Berkeley has done by foisting vi on an already-unhappy world --
-->Emacs will be the official CS(course number) text editor this semester."
-->
-->UC Berkeley has officially appologized for the creation of the
-->not-much-better-than-Windows-Notepad editor vi. Why do people still keep using
-->it?
-->
-->"Thomer M. Gil" wrote:
-->
-->> Hi,
-->>
-->> Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
-->> 95/98/NT and many other operating systems.
-->>
-->> The Vi Lovers Home Page:
-->> http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html
-->>
-->> The Vi Lovers Home Page contains much Vi related info and links to:
-->> - Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
-->> - Vi FAQs,
-->> - Tutorials,
-->> - FTP sites,
-->> - jokes and the like,
-->> - and much more.
-->>
-->> The Vi Lovers Home Page:
-->> http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html
-->>
-->> Thomer M. Gil
-->
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Printing into file
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:06:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Guido Ehlert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone an idea how to print into a file?
If the program's output goes to the screen, i.e. stdout, you
can redirect it.
ls -l >my-files
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From: "J. P. Michel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: dhcp on Solaris
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:21:28 -0400
"Casper H.S. Dik - Network Security Engineer" wrote:
> [[ PLEASE DON'T SEND ME EMAIL COPIES OF POSTINGS ]]
>
> "J. P. Michel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >I am currently running Solaris 2.6 on a sparc20 with a full install. I
> >need to know from you how do I configure my sparc to obtain addresses
> >from their (my cable company) dhcp server.
>
> >I do know that dhcp is a superset of bootp, with a small difference: IP
> >addresses (and other parameters) are obtained dynamically instead of
> >coding them in configuration files. Having said that, should I just
> >setup
> >my machine as if it was attempting to talk to a bootp server?
>
> To test, try (assuming le0 is your cable modem interface):
>
> ifconfig le0 dhcp
>
> to make this setting permanent, create an empty hostname.le0 file and
> dhcp.le0 file.
>
> Casper
Tried it - worked magically! Thanks a million!
--jpm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (robert)
Subject: ATI vid card & Xwindows HELP please
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:32:23 GMT
Ran the druid & probed for Video support. It found my ATI Video
Expression & when I continued, set-up for video failed at 90%
completion w/ this message. "X Free 86-Mach 64 failed unpacking of
archive on file
/usr/X11R6/man5/XF86Config.5X:1:
no such file or directory.
I installed to an old harddrive that is 234 megs, kept the package
count low because of this, what I want from linux is there-for a
beginner. When I designated a monitor in the druid set-up I checked
generic. I actually have an old Macintosh SVGA monitor (480 x 640),
w/ a virtual desktop set at 600 x 800 High Color. So the deal is, I
start X windows & get darkness-o-monitor. I obviously set things up a
bit wrong. When I partitioned the HD I only designated /(root) & swap
in the interest of saving space. How can reset parameters from w/in
Linux (command linese) thus avoiding re-install? Thanks in advance.
Robert
P.S. I am running as drivers for my video card on my main C: drive
MS(hell!!!!) direct X 5. This so I can have MAME 32. Could this be
my prob.?
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From: Sean OC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.net-computer.misc
Subject: Re: Can an Oracle network computer connect to Linux server?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:30:58 GMT
Dickon Hood wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sean OC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : I have inherited a couple of Oracle nc's. The Oracle server is toasted. I
> : have a Redhat Linux 2.0.36 server (upgrading to 2.2.x soon). Does anyone
> : know enough to tell me if it is worth my time to try to get these two nc's
> : to connect to my Linux server? They have 'smart cards' which act as
> : logon/security. I would guess that this would be the biggest hurdle.
>
> Good gods, I don't believe it. An on-topic question. Whatever is the planet
> coming to...
>
> Yup, RH Linux will quite happily boot these things, assuming they're the
> standard Acorn reference design boxes.
[snip]
Thanks for you answer. I will do as you suggested. I have just ordered Redhat
6.0, with the 2.2.x kernel et al. I will wait for that to show up before I try.
SoC
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: In defence of UNIX man pages
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:34:23 -0700
Reply-To: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Juergen Heinzl wrote:
<partial snippage>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bev wrote:
<partial snippage>
> >> BTW, the info pages (use info, better pinfo) come with a lot of
> >> examples and if it comes to learn the basic stuff, there are many
> >> good books available.
> >
> >Yeah, but so many trees have already died needlessly. The "command --help"
> >structure (is this universal?) is better in many ways than the man pages; it's
> >shorter and gives you a hint about what you might want to look for.
> Try pinfo and well, the FSF decided to go the info path and the Linux
> man pages maintainers are not quite happy with that either. I will assume
> you've written a man page or two (or many) for your own stuff and if
> so you will know it is not that much fun.
Don't have pinfo on my system. Is it just a different way of looking at the
same material? Never written a man page, but I've written explanatory
material to use when I wasn't around to answer questions. Has anybody written
a Handy Guide to Everything Linux for the Novice? Not a dummies book, just a
well-indexed reference (probably fat and costing $50+) wherein a non-guru can
find answers when the man page is obstinately uninformative and the ISP is
down... I already have several fat books which give just as much information
as you can get from a printed copy of the man pages.
> Most people who write them for Linux do not get paid for it, they've
> other things to do too. You get what you pay for as the saying goes.
Yeah, I keep asking myself "HOW much did you pay for it?" when I get desperate
:-) Still, if somebody bothers to write 15 or 20 pages for a man page, is it
asking too much to put in 20 lines of examples?
> But now let's see ... I've got ~1400 man pages in /usr/share/man only ...
> now it should be possible to find, let's say 700 Linux people in the world
> that (a) can write a decent English and (b) know enough to set up a decent
> man page ... it should not take more than one week plus some time of
> proof reading by people of the category (c) like me 8)
>
> I read once about this motherly advice ... "don't sit there and complain,
> do something" ... well ...
Not complaining about the spelling and grammar (which I might actually be able
to fix), just the content -- which I am in no way competent to evaluate.
> Minor note ... since the glibc-2.1.x is more than near I think this is
> can be worth a look too ...
> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/7908799/toc.htm
> ... and I've got a local copy on my machine.
Nice. Way easier to browse/read than equivalent man pages, which is what the
entry for ls appeared to be.
--
Cheers,
Bev
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"We need a candidate who will not waste but preserve the
precious resources of this country, a candidate who will,
when given the chance, inhale." --J. Hauser
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From: "joel Acclassato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questionsalt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: hilfe f�r Internetverbindung aufbau mit ISDN und Suse 6.1
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 02:29:25 +0200
Hi Leute ich wohne in Koeln und brauche hilfe f�r die Aufbau ein
Internetverbindung mit linux Suse 6.1 und ISDN . Hat jemand ein bissen Zeit
und mir dabei zu helfen.
DANKE !
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From: Mike Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: retrieve files from src rpm
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:04:29 +0800
Hi There,
Could you please tell me how to retrieve files from the src rpm files?
It seems 'rpm' can only help me to list what the src rpm has.
By the way, please reply in email,too. Thanks,Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Pelletier)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!!
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:01:09 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes) �crivait/wrote:
>On Sun, 16 May 1999 20:23:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( (Gilles
>Pelletier)) wrote:
>>Autoinstalling Linux is like putting a nice body around a Ferrari's
>>mechanics and giving the keys to John Doe saying "You just press the
>>gas pedal and it moves forward."
>>
>>Whereas an expert might save time using autoinstall, it's most
>>certainly a waste of time for a beginner. If there's a distribution
>>like the one I'm describing here, please advise me.
>I use Debian which I think is an excellent compromise between the raw
>nuts'n bolts of, say, Slackware and something Commercial like COL.
>Debian can be so much easier (apt for example) but requires a little
>prior knowledge. Well worth the extra effort.
It's this �little prior knowledge� bit that I don't like too much.
Usually it turns out to be a fair amount of knowledge.
Besides, I checked the installation instrucctions on Debian's site and
it doesn't look a lot different. No down to earth, create this
directory, edit this file, approach there.
I did appreciate their 6.1 and 6.2 sections though
ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/install.html
The files that must be downloaded are well identified and installing
from the DOS partition seems to be a breeze.
They do seem to be lagging way behind the others distros though. They
say they want to be sure their distribution is rock steady but I
wonder how their "potato" would stand against Redhat's 6.0 or Suse's
6.1 at the present time.
GP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: Diald dials out every 15 minutes
Date: 18 May 1999 01:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16 May 1999 19:02:16 GMT, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (marco
>tephlant) writes:
>
>>Im pleased to say i've got IP masquerading and diald working this
>>weekend, one problem though is that diald spontaneously dials out. I've
>
>Are you running some daemons-- eg named or gated? Don't. neither is
>needed, both cause problems for an at home system.
>If it is not these check other daemons (xntpd, chronyd,...) which might
>periodicaly be going tothenet to get info.
>
It could also be your Windows doing some sort of lookup also.
I have seen others mention it and have seen people post various
rules for diald to filter them out.
Also, when I first started using diald, I had the same thing but
every ten minutes. I finally figured out after much head scratching
that it was Netscape trying to check for email every ten minutes.
--
Frank Hahn
DeVries's Dilemma:
If you hit two keys on the typewriter, the one you don't want
hits the paper.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kernel 2.2.7 Error
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:02:10 GMT
I'm currently running kernel 2.2.5 and am trying to upgrade to kernel
2.2.7 from the RH 6.0 disk. I extract the source and when I make config,
dep , modules, modules_install, are all succesful. When I do zImage
everything is fine until make enters '/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'.
This is where I'm getting an error after executing the line 'as86 -0 -a
-o bootsect.o bootsect.s' that says 'as86: Command not found'. I don't
understand why since I know that I have the GNU assembler installed. Is
there another program that I'm missing and if so, what?
Thanks,
-Ben
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: sticky shift keys in linux
Date: 18 May 1999 01:06:11 GMT
In article <7hn7as$4vf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> John Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[sticky shift keys]
> > Look for the LINUX Access HOWTO, Keyboard HOWTO, and the XKB
> > extensions to the X server.
>
> Maybe this reply would be a sufficient answer for an expert like you;
> for a newbie like me it just repeats the question. I am already aware
> that it can be done, and that it would probably be done with XKB
> extensions or such. But I remember the HOWTO's had only vage
> instructions how to write a script. Is it too much to ask for a
> ready-to-run script? Surely I am not the first person to want sticky
> keys under Linux.
To be honest, you're going to have difficulty with Linux if you aren't
prepared to work a fair amount out for yourself ... and you have to be
careful to avoid a Microsoft-like situation where something goes wrong
and you have absolutely no idea of how to fix it because somebody else
wrote all your scripts.
But anyway, section 15.1 of the Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO makes it
trivial to do this for the console:
(assuming kbd package >= 0.93)
% loadkeys
keymaps 0-15
keycode 54 = SShift
keycode 97 = SCtrl
keycode 100 = SAlt
%
If you want this to run automatically, then put the four input lines
(keymaps and the three keycode lines) into a file somewhere (say
stickykeys.map) and run 'loadkeys stickykeys.map' from one of your
startup scripts (obviously you'll have to decide where to put
stickykeys.map - I'll leave you to play around with your startup
scripts, as it really is not difficult and it's good practice).
As for X, you could try looking for a line beginning with "XkbOptions"
in /etc/X11/XF86Config (or putting one in the Keyboard section if none
exists) and making it read:
XkbOptions "StickyKeys"
However, this is guesswork on my part, as I haven't tried this, so I
don't know if it will work.
Good luck anyway!
Colin
--
"Oh Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling,
From glen to glen, and down the mountainside ..."
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian: still viable?
Date: 18 May 1999 01:16:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <7hlfu9$c28$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cameron Spitzer wrote:
>>NIS + Shadow passwords = system won't boot.
>Please investigate and report this bug. See bugs.debian.org.
I did, a year ago.
>>xinetd never has worked, what's it still doing in there?
>Works for me.
That's why commercial OSes go through formal usability testing.
"Works for me" isn't good enough.
>>dwww finds less and less info each time, though it was a good idea.
>Are you by chance, using the "unstable" (potato) rather than "stable" (slink)
>version?
bo, hamm, and slink.
Cameron
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