Linux-Misc Digest #244, Volume #26 Mon, 6 Nov 00 04:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: eOne and Linux - modem question ("Jon")
Re: Different groups for different ls? (Glitch)
divx? (Janet)
Re: Me tryin' convince my company to use Samba (Lord Petrosky)
Re: Problem with Linux IP-Masq'ing and Win2K (jeff)
RPM database? (Janet)
Regular Expression Subsitution (Fester)
Re: Communication Server like Exchange on Linux? (Zip)
NEED HELP FROM ANY MANDRAKE USER! (Gregory Ling)
Problem with Linux IP-Masq'ing and Win2K ("Don Whitlow")
Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues (Jeff Jeffries)
Re: Telnet/useradd question (Glitch)
Re: color prompt in tcsh
Re: Mandrake install problems ("CSNI")
poweroff doesn't power off ("Kilian A. Foth")
Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Telnet to RedHat 7 (Bob Hutzel)
Re: Copy CD to hard disk (Frank Reifenstahl)
Re: Time Prob (Michael Perry)
Linux/UNIX=Windows (Peter)
HD mirror (Oliver Marugg)
Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues (Philip Brown)
Re: Looking for "clean disk" utility ("Uncle Meat")
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From: "Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: eOne and Linux - modem question
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:15:16 -0600
Howdy-doo,
I went and looked around but didn't see anything eOne specific. Can you give
me a more specific link? The modem is an 'HSP MicroModem 56k PCI'
I took the 3 part case off the eOne today and now know I must make this
modem work since no other modem is gonna ever go in there without
professional help, which my total disability pension will never allow ;-)
Thanks for any specific help, links, e-mail addresses, files, anything at
all.
I am a Linux newbie and am sort of stuck without web access on the eOne
machine :-(
--
Jon - I love Jesus Christ
http://www.jonsplace.org/
> I just received an email from someone who is successfully using this modem
> with the PCTel "Linmodem" driver. Please see:
> http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
> for details.
>
> Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 00:27:05 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Different groups for different ls?
in the log it should say when the ls command was executed and it should
give the path. I can't help with the actual problem however the ftp
server should be executing /bin/ls which is obviously the server's ls.
Unless wu-ftp can be configured to use separate (very well possible as I
haven't needed to configure mine for my situation) commands for users
separate from the server.
Micer wrote:
>
> A customer demonstrated their wu-ftp site to me that someone else set up for
> them and I noticed something unusual. When you attach to their site over the
> web and do an "ls" within wu-ftp you get a groupname of "wu-ftp" for about a
> dozen files, and the rest are root. But when you attach to their ftp server
> from inside their site passing through their firewall (logging on as root
> over SSH) all files show the group "root", including the same ones that
> shoed as "wu-ftp" when listed externally.
>
> How is this possible? They suggested that coming in externally uses a
> different "ls" than coming in internally. This makes sense because they
> copied "ls" into the ftp user's home directory area. But even if two
> different "ls" commands were used, how can the groups be different, (ie:
> it's exactly the same file isn't it?).
>
> Micer
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From: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: divx?
Date: 05 Nov 2000 21:26:00 -0800
Does anybody know of a utility to convert DivX to avi or mpeg? Also, are
there any good DivX players for Linux? (I'm having a heck of a time
trying to compile aviplay.)
Thanks,
Janet
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From: Lord Petrosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocol.smb,linux.samba,comp.os.linux.network
Subject: Re: Me tryin' convince my company to use Samba
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:21:39 GMT
You should be more concerned with reliability than with minute
differences in response time.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
YY Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to create Word97 document with mactro to display
> downloading time from a NT file server and Linux running Samba so to
> prove which is really faster?
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: Problem with Linux IP-Masq'ing and Win2K
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:50:05 GMT
On Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:27:59 -0600,
Don Whitlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> I'm currently running a Red Hat 6.2 box as an IP-Chains Firewall / Ip Masq
> gateway for my DSL line. On my side of the network, I have 2 Win2K
> workstations setup, one of which dual boots Win98 which is my primary
> bootup. Win98 accesses the internet great and works perfectly. I'm using
> private 192.168.0.* addresses of which the Win98 / Win2K machine uses
> 192.168.0.2 for both OSes. My Linux box uses 192.168.0.1.
>
> When I'm in Win2K on either machine, I can't get to the Internet. I've
> configured the network as close to the same as the Win98 box as possible,
> including setting my gateway to the address of my Linux box (192.168.0.1).
> Everybody sees everybody else ok on the internal network, only the 2 Win2K
> boxes can't see out onto the internet. Both will do Nslookups for internet
> sites just fine, and both at least seem to start trying to make the
> connection before simply timing out when browsing using IE. I can even ping
> from both boxes out to sites on the internet. Any idea what is going on
> here? I'm stumped.
Did you remember to set DNS addresses in the Win2K network setup? Your
setup sounds close to mine, and my Win2K works fine (well... at least its
Internet access :)
-jeff
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From: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RPM database?
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:50:05 GMT
Hi,
I upgraded my version of RPM, and it seems to have deleted my RPM database
(when I query, there are no packages installed). Is there any way to get
the old database back? (It's sort of annoying to have it spout 20
dependency errors when I try to install stuff.)
Thanks,
Janet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester)
Subject: Regular Expression Subsitution
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:50:05 GMT
I have an expression of s/something/\0/, which essentially repeats exactly
what it found. Is it possible to make the \0 entirely in lowercase? (in
other words, match a pattern, and replace it with an all-lowercase version
of itself)
I thought of doing something like
$ sed "s/something/`tr A-Z a-z \0`/" file
however, it apparently does not substitute the \0 into the tr command.
Any help?
--
-- Fester
"And Dream dreams of the future. Progress dreams of clean.
And Stress only dreams about stress, all over everything."
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From: Zip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communication Server like Exchange on Linux?
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:50:06 GMT
Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>does anyone know a stable running free program for linux
>that is comparable to exchange server?
>I mean not only eMail, but also meetings, scheduling and so on...
>
>Also a Web based Solution is great welcome.
Go to freshmeat.org and search for groupware. Also try www.phpgroupware.org
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From: Gregory Ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEED HELP FROM ANY MANDRAKE USER!
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:50:06 GMT
Hi,
I use Mandrake 7.0 and I was fiddling around with init.sh.
Apparently there is a bug with "init.sh custom" that zeroes out the
inittab file.
I would appreciate a copy of inittab.
You can mail it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
THANKS.
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From: "Don Whitlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with Linux IP-Masq'ing and Win2K
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:50:05 GMT
Hey All,
I'm currently running a Red Hat 6.2 box as an IP-Chains Firewall / Ip Masq
gateway for my DSL line. On my side of the network, I have 2 Win2K
workstations setup, one of which dual boots Win98 which is my primary
bootup. Win98 accesses the internet great and works perfectly. I'm using
private 192.168.0.* addresses of which the Win98 / Win2K machine uses
192.168.0.2 for both OSes. My Linux box uses 192.168.0.1.
When I'm in Win2K on either machine, I can't get to the Internet. I've
configured the network as close to the same as the Win98 box as possible,
including setting my gateway to the address of my Linux box (192.168.0.1).
Everybody sees everybody else ok on the internal network, only the 2 Win2K
boxes can't see out onto the internet. Both will do Nslookups for internet
sites just fine, and both at least seem to start trying to make the
connection before simply timing out when browsing using IE. I can even ping
from both boxes out to sites on the internet. Any idea what is going on
here? I'm stumped.
Thanks in advance for any light anyone can shed on this.
Sincerely,
Don
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Jeffries)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:55:17 GMT
In article <1PqN5.127687$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>GTK+ absolutely _IS_ object-oriented.
>
>The notion that the use of OO is restricted to C++ is just silly;
>indeed, the fact that C++ doesn't provide GC by default is considered
>by many to be an strike against _C++_ being a particularly capable OO
>language. (The same strike is true for C, of course...)
>
I presume GC is garbage collection. Why do you say that?
--J
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Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:44:31 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet/useradd question
after you add the user u need to set the password
use the command u have below to add the user then do the following
passwd test
It will ask u to enter the password and then again to confirm...after
this try telnetting in as this user. Should work.
HTH
jdn wrote:
>
> Trying to setup to be able to telnet into my RedHat 6.1.
>
> I have two accounts that already exist, root and another. Authentication
> fails if I try to telnet in as root (according to /var/log/messages), works
> with other account.
>
> From CLI, I type:
>
> 'useradd test'
>
> but cannot telnet in using that account, saying authentication fails, and
> cannot log in using that account either.
>
> How do I get root access to telnet, and how do I create an account using
> useradd so that I can login and access telnet using that account?
>
> Thanks.
>
> jdn
> kingcrim at earthlink dot net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: color prompt in tcsh
Date: 6 Nov 2000 06:13:53 GMT
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 , Brad Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm having some trouble colorizing my prompt in tcsh. I checked the man
>page, but that only gives me specifics on what the prompt contains, not
>colors. I also consulted dejanews but couldn't find anything for tcsh. Can
>someone please point me in the right direction?
I went through this before I switched over to bash, where (as you've
heard) it is easier. The only easy option you have is to have your
prompt string switch to either the Bold or Underline colour that's
used in your xterm. That is, have your .(t)cshrc do one of
set prompt = '%Ustuff%u> ' # underline colour (%u resets it)
or
set prompt = '%Bstuff%b> ' # bold colour
These are usually set to yellow and white, respectively.
However, you can reset them in the app-defaults file for xterm
as long as the new colours look OK when you do man pages. You
may need lines like:
*VT100*colorUL: yellow
*VT100*colorBD: white
*VT100*colorMode: on
*VT100*boldColors: on
*VT100*dynamicColors: on
*VT100*colorULMode: on
*VT100*colorBDMode: on
assuming you're emulating a VT100 (as I was on the Sun this
came from).
=====================================
Steve Czapor
Dept. of Math. & C.S.
Laurentian University
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
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Reply-To: "CSNI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "CSNI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Mandrake install problems
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:13:33 GMT
I have 128M
I also get an error when loading the second stage ram disk.
I can get as far as partitioning the hard disk. It will either halt or
reboot about half way through. And at the Misc menu it says it only has
127M?
"Daniel Lenski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8u54rb$g4u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Linux sometimes has a problem detecting how much memory your computer
> has. This causes it to try to access RAM that isn't there! How much
> memory do you have?
>
> When you install 7.1, try pressing F1 at the first
> screen and typing in 'linux ram=???M', where ??? is the number of
> megabytes of RAM that you have. This has worked for me many times.
>
> > Im installing mandrake 7.1 on an Asus CUSL2 Intel 815E Atx 133
> > motherboard with a 733 processor. Using the Drakx install program, when
> > I reach the partition format proceedure, the system hangs or sometimes
> > reboots on its own, usually at the latterportion of the hard drive. I
> > also get an error saying that
> > "seems like memory is missing as install crashes'
> >
> > does anyone have any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Lenski
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "If we couldn't laugh at things that didn't make sense,
> we couldn't react to a lot of the world around us."
> --Calvin and Hobbes
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From: "Kilian A. Foth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: poweroff doesn't power off
Date: 6 Nov 2000 07:20:50 GMT
When I use poweroff (on my SuSE 7.0), I get the proper shutdown
behaviour right until
"The system will be halted immediately.
Master Resource Control: Runlevel 0 has been reached"
but no actual powering off. I vaguely recall that immediately after
installation this would actually power off the system (and I know for
a fact that the board can do it, since the Evil OS does it, too). What
could I be overlooking here?
--
Pain and disappointment are inevitable. Misery is optional.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:20:56 GMT
In article <1PqN5.127687$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > If you decide to go with C itself, look into the GTK+
> > widget set. GTK+ isn't exactly object-oriented, although there's
> > been a lot of work to try to make it FEEL object oriented. The
> > biggest pain will come from trying to create your own widgets --
> > the widget constructor in C/GTK+ is not as easy as you'd hope. But,
> > it's doable.
>
> GTK+ absolutely _IS_ object-oriented.
>
> The notion that the use of OO is restricted to C++ is just silly;
> indeed, the fact that C++ doesn't provide GC by default is considered
> by many to be an strike against _C++_ being a particularly capable OO
> language. (The same strike is true for C, of course...)
Hm... Say, the right side and back look great, but could you finish up
on the left? I think there's a bunch of hairs over there that still
need splitting...
Fine, you substitute a "_" for a "." and they're practically the same,
and yes, technically, you can do OO programming even at the assembly
level if you want to. But it feels a hell of a lot more different using
a single generic function and passing it your gtk_object with all its
type casting and whatnot than it does simply calling an object's member
function. If the guy is learning, and has a background in C++
programming, he's probably going to prefer going with the GTK-- widget
set rather than rewiring his brain to handle OO programming C-style, am
I wrong? That was sort of my point about saying that GTK+ isn't exactly
object oriented. Next time I'll be sure to add "in the same way that
C++ is."
> - Glade is a tool to allow you to "drag'n'drool" graphical objects
> onto canvases, thereby building the GUI with lessened effort.
> Compare to QtEz for Qt, or to FLUID for FLTK.
Okay. Correction noted.
(Could you make sure it's parted towards the left too? Thanks!)
-wrinkledshirt
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From: Bob Hutzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Telnet to RedHat 7
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:42:02 -0500
I used to run a Caldera OpenLinux system where the default install allowed me
to telnet into my system and log in remotely. I'm now running RedHat 7 and when
I telnet my ip address the response I receive everytime is Connection Refused.
What configuration file do I need to look into to allow logins from remote
terminals. Thanks for any help, Bob
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From: Frank Reifenstahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Copy CD to hard disk
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:50:53 GMT
>
> What does matter is which extension if any the CD file system is
> created with. Is it RockRidge, (win9x, what is that called again?)
> or pure iso9660. Then you have several mount options, such as
> map=o/map=n, conv=a/conv=b/conv=m/conv=t, check=r/check=s
>
> Check the man page for mount for more details.
I did so - and tried out every available combination of norock, check
and map options. It is bugging, but contrary to the man page promises I
still get uppercase names.
Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Time Prob
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:27:04 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 11:48:47 GMT, ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"K. Creed" wrote:
>
>> When I first boot up Linux and launch X the time is displayed correctly,
>> but after awhile it resets to a time six hours prior. I've used the
>> date command which works temporarily but the time still resets
>> incorrectly after awhile.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Kris
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Yes, and, after you get that going your way, implement NTP. It's simple
>to install, and will be the end of issues involving the right time on your
>machine. <shameless plug> A page for configuring XNTPD is at
>http://www.raymondjones.net/ntpguide.html </shameless plug>
>
>--
>Ray R. Jones
>Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>HTTP://www.raymondjones.net
>
>
>
NTP works great if you have a fulltime connection to the net. As an
example, I use NTP to connect to a timeserver on a server which has a
fulltime connection. Then I install something like ntpdate which I run as a
cron job every few hours against my local box; which now acts as a time
server for my home network. I believe that NTPdate works better if you do
not have a fulltime network connection (like dialup ppp).
Just ImO, and YMMV :)
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux/UNIX=Windows
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:18:21 GMT
The reports of reliability and performance problems in this newsgroup
show one trend. The things that make Windows doze or die are the
things that make Linux and UNIX doze/die. The performance enhancements
suggested for Linux today are the performance enhancements suggested
for Windows 5 years ago and MVS 25 years ago. They also apply to OS/2,
AS/32/34/36/400 and just about every other OS out there.
New systems always work faster because new disks are faster, new disk
partitions are less congested and the small amount of data on the disk
is in the highest performance zone. 123,000,000 people have used this
phenomenon to justify spending a lot of money on an Intel processor.
88% of new computers are sold with less than half the memory they will
need for daily operation yet the speed and cleanliness of the new disk
will make the PC page so fast that the overall performance will appear
better.
6 months later the "CPU" seems to slow because the disk partitions are
full and congested. Intel sell you a new CPU that requires a different
chipset so you will buy a complete new PC and get a faster hard disk
that will make the new CPU look faster.
What would be better is a good disk cleanup program. Diskeeper and
Raxco provide tools that perform trivial cleanups on NT. Win 9.5 has
something less capable. Linux has a bunch of fanatics who claim Linux
defies the laws of physics.
As long as processors process and disks disk, OSs need cleaning up.
IDE RAID makes a disk performance doubling financial viable for
desktops at a time when files are doubling in size several times over.
Disk drive manufacturers are unlikely to implement the improvements I
recommended in 1998 because Windows 98 did not gain NTFS. That leaves
disks expanding in size at an adequate rate but not keeping up with
speed. Disk performance management is just as important now as in
1970.
What is available for Linux?
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From: Oliver Marugg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HD mirror
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:19:38 +0100
HI,
How could I do a full mirror/backup of a harddisk to another one, so
that I could change the disk in case of a fault. Including LILO etc. We
are using Suse 6.4.
Thanks in advance.
OIiver
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.solaris,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:33:18 GMT
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:47:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I need to choose either GNOME or KDE. I will be doing computationally
>intensive C++, with very heavy disk I/O. Results will be displayed in 3D
>preferrably with OpenGL.
THen 99% of what you are doing has nothing to do with the widget set.
I recommend you get the basics working, with the results in simple
Xt or something. Keep the interface modular.
There's a generic opengl+X11 widget with Mesa, I thought.
Then when you program is actually FUNCTIONAL, you can play with different
front-ends to it.
Basically: Dont make design decisions based on what GUI you want.
Design the program so that the internals will be the cleanest. Then pick
the GUI that integrates best with your design.
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From: "Uncle Meat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for "clean disk" utility
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 21:50:57 -0600
In article <8u4eef$nmb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can anyone direct me to a Linux utility like (Windoze) "Clean Disk";
> essentially a utility that writes (and re-writes) unused space in the
> filesystem?
Didn't know there was such a monster on 'Doze (I'm M$-free and don't
recall one).
If you mean something that deletes files and repeatedly writes to the
used space several times, try wipe (I'm sure it's on freshmeat). It
writes to each block 34 times then overwrites the name with a bogus
filename, then deletes the record.
If you mean something else, I can't tell you what that might be.
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