Linux-Misc Digest #292, Volume #20 Fri, 21 May 99 15:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: car mp3 player (Christopher Browne)
Re: prevent detection of 2nd HD (Rudy M)
Re: csh-programming-manual (Alan Gauld)
"Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist" :~< ("test")
Re: URGENT: How to download Red Hat 6??? (Robert Brown-Bayliss)
Cant remove a package (Douglas Ritschel)
Cant remove a package (Douglas Ritschel)
Re: redhat 6.0 cd image (James Knott)
SAS for Linux ??? (Martin A. Boegelund)
Re: WordPerfect gunzip (Rod Smith)
Re: SETI comparisons (Chris Mauritz)
Re: Linux killer for SuSe 6.1 ("Stefan Knabe")
Re: WordPerfect 8 & Printers (John Hong)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?) (Bill
Woodford)
RPM to see what package a file is in? (Sean Godsell)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: car mp3 player
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 04:16:31 GMT
On 20 May 1999 06:32:59 GMT, brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 May 1999 03:09:17 GMT,
> Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Frankly, this looks to me to be a good application for an "embedded"
>> system.
>
>Yeah, but trying to find vendors willing to sell embedded boards in
>onesies and twosies is tough.
>
>They all seem happy to sell me 500 of them, but I just want one.
True.
>> The handheld players (e.g. - Diamond Rio) are slick designs with minimal
>> moving parts.
>
>And a pitiful amount of storage. :)
I expect that this will be remedied fairly quickly; there seems to be a
new Rio in the "pipeline" that doubles from 32MB to 64MB, which looks to
be enough for a couple hours of music.
Bigger improvements will likely result if interest in the technology
continues (e.g. - "big business music" fails in attempts to squelch
MP3).
>> The application doesn't too much call for the bulk of a wholesale
>> motherboard and the likes; the *major* thing that could be beneficially
>> added (to a Rio-like unit) would be a CD-ROM for greater mass storage.
>> From what I can see, a 660MB ISO9660 CD-ROM could store on the order of
>> 600 minutes of music, which is rather impressive.
>
>Yep, I burn CD's of mp3's at home, and drag them into work to listen to.
>Beats carrying around a stack of CDs and changing them every 45 minutes
>or so. :) The 501M CD mounted at work right now is just a bit over 7
>hours worth of music.
Meaning that my estimate was off, but is still close enough for
back-of-napkin calcs.
After picking up a sound card and installing it on the weekend, I've
been grabbing an MP3 every couple of days; probably ought to turn some
CDs into MP3s...
>> Tossing in a hard drive and a full-scale PC motherboard seems to me to
>> be a grave diminishing of system reliability.
>>
>> I guess it's cool to have "Linux-Controlled Automotive Systems," but I'd
>> personally rather pay $400 for an in-dash unit...
>
>Well, my application is for home use, so a hard drive won't hurt
>reliability too much. It's a much better environment than the jostling
>and temperature extremes of a car. :)
I guess I got confused by the subject line...
>Embedded controllers have a lot of advantages, like more sane power
>requirements and a much smaller footprint. A good chunk of motherboard
>real estate is spent on the ISA and PCI slots, which are really not
>needed for this application, and it's easy to find boards with sound and
>even ethernet and LCD driver already there.
>
>But finding a vendor is a lot harder.
Indeed.
<ULINK URL="http://lcdproc.omnipotent.net/">LCDproc</ULINK> is one
option for LCDs; I think that LinuxCentral also sells LCD displays. It
looks like this sort of thing costs about as much as a motherboard.
It's acceptable for building custom one-off embedded systems where the
cost of systems integration may run to $Thousands, and $100/unit in
materials costs kind of disappears.
But I'd say that's what the embedded folk are really trying to sell
for.
If you look for the less-than-PCMCIA-card-sized "mother board," you'll
find about the same thing. It's basically a AMD 5x86 with a bit of RAM;
for $100, they'd sell like mad. But they sell for about $600, which
restricts them to cases where people really *want* them badly.
Embedded systems have two directions:
a) People willing to pay quite a bit per unit, because the main cost is
systems integration, and the $Thousands spent there mean that hardware
doesn't have to be cheap, or
b) Requirements of production runs of thousands of units.
--
Fatal Error: Found [MS-Windows] System -> Repartitioning Disk for Linux...
(By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher Browne)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: Rudy M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: prevent detection of 2nd HD
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:27:05 +0200
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Paul Grayson wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > How can I prevent Linux (or Windows, for that matter) from knowing about
> > the 2nd hard disk? I would like it to stay spun down, but every now and
> > then linux accesses it for whatever reason. (Windows does too.) The OS
> > is RH5.2.
> >
>
> Disconnect it! :-)
>
> --
> Unemployed UNIX and networking expert with 9 years of experience.
> Someone out there must has some position for me; anywhere in the UK will
> do.
Hi,
You can add a switch on your IDE cable, and disconect it this way. When you
need it back just toggle the switch.
You need a 2 pole ON/ON switch.
To disconect your slave drive, open wire 39, and open wire 37. the wire 37
at the slave side you connect to wire 28. Wire 28 you can leave open, you
don't need it. (1 = red marked wire).
39 ------ ------------- Slave drive disconected
37 ------ --------------- Slave connector
|
28 ------ ----------------
This could work, in theory but not with all IDE's, they are very sensitive to
interference. So try and see.
Of course at youre own risk.....
Have fun...
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Paul Grayson wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<br>>
<br>> How can I prevent Linux (or Windows, for that matter) from knowing
about
<br>> the 2nd hard disk? I would like it to stay spun down, but every now
and
<br>> then linux accesses it for whatever reason. (Windows does too.) The
OS
<br>> is RH5.2.
<br>>
<p>Disconnect it! :-)
<p>--
<br>Unemployed UNIX and networking expert with 9 years of experience.
<br>Someone out there must has some position for me; anywhere in the UK
will
<br>do.</blockquote>
Hi,
<p>You can add a switch on your IDE cable, and disconect it this way.
When you need it back just toggle the switch.
<p>You need a 2 pole ON/ON switch.
<br>To disconect your slave drive, open wire 39, and open wire 37.
the wire 37 at the slave side you connect to wire 28. Wire 28 you
can leave open, you don't need it. (1 = red marked wire).
<br>
<p>
<br>39 ------
------------- <font color="#FF0000">
Slave drive disconected</font>
<br>
<br>37 ------ ---------------
Slave connector
<br>
|
<br>28 ------ ----------------
<p>This could work, in theory but not with all IDE's, they are very sensitive
to interference. So try and see.
<p>Of course at youre own risk.....
<p>Have fun...
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From: Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: csh-programming-manual
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:28:55 +0100
Oliver Gebele wrote:
> is there a csh-programming manual on the web???
> (beside the man-page)
Not that I know of, but there is a well publicised paper
on why you should NOT use csh for programming
- its OK for interactive use but not for scripting.
Bourne or Korn shells are a better programming option.
Alan G.
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This post represents the views of the author
and does not necessarily accurately represent
the views of BT.
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From: "test" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist" :~<
Crossposted-To: comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:26:43 GMT
# /usr/local/libexec/mysqld
990521 11:24:24 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't
exist
What the hell?! How do I fix this?
test <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<01bea3b6$29952c50$24921e18@obi-wan-kanobe>...
> Woohoo! No errors or anything. Just ./configure ; make ; make
install...
> Wheeeeeeeeee... :)
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Brown-Bayliss)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: URGENT: How to download Red Hat 6???
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:15:15 +1200
In article <7hvmji$odj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Please tell me where to get a $2 copy of RH6.0. Infomagic doesn't have
> it out yet, and Redhat wants $79.95. GNU wants $150 to precompile
> everything specifically for my system. Are you saying, if I download it
> myself and purchase a writable CD-ROM, that I can buy the media for
> $2 ? How much are writable CD-ROMs?
Why nor download? I set my PC to down load RH 6 and walked away. All day
at work it was down loading, all night while I slept it was downloading.
All morning the next day it was downloading. By 2pm I had RH 6 running.
Sure it's slow, but if you are else wher it takes no time at all :o)
--
Rob
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~bayliss
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From: Douglas Ritschel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Cant remove a package
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:46:29 -0400
WHen I try to remove this package, I get the following.
[root@adz2 /etc]# rpm -e g77-2.90.29-1
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.89707: lisa: command not found
execution of script failed
If I try to re-install it I get:
[root@adz2 /etc]# rpm -Uvh --force /tmp/g77/g77-2_90_29-1_i386.rpm
g77
##################################################
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.83737: lisa: command not found
execution of script failed
When I try to use it I get:
[root@adz2 /tmp]# g77 test.f
ld: cannot open -lgcc: No such file or directory.
Any ideas how to remove it?
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From: Douglas Ritschel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Cant remove a package
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:28:04 -0400
WHen I try to remove this package, I get the following.
[root@adz2 /etc]# rpm -e g77-2.90.29-1
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.89707: lisa: command not found
execution of script failed
If I try to re-install it I get:
[root@adz2 /etc]# rpm -Uvh --force /tmp/g77/g77-2_90_29-1_i386.rpm
g77
##################################################
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.83737: lisa: command not found
execution of script failed
When I try to use it I get:
[root@adz2 /tmp]# g77 test.f
ld: cannot open -lgcc: No such file or directory.
Any ideas how to remove it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Subject: Re: redhat 6.0 cd image
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:48:27 -0400
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <7hena5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Gordon Vrdoljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I was wondering if there was any site I could download the entire redhat
>>6.0 cd from.
>
>You can order the CDROM from CheapBytes for a couple of bucks or
>so. It'll take about as long to get it...
At work, it took under an hour to download. We have 16 MB token ring
to the desk, and a *FAST* intra/internet connection.
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The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.
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From: Martin A. Boegelund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: SAS for Linux ???
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:43:43 GMT
If your business is using SAS (c) SAS Institute Inc. please go to
http://www.sas.com/ and take part in the Linux/SAS survey. It would be
nice if another one of the heavy guys in software was to support Linux
also.
I'm not an employee of SAS Institute Inc. but I use SAS in an NT-
environment, and would really like SAS to go Linux, so that I can tell
my boss that we have to move to Linux. Thanks in advance.
--
==================
Mr Sparkle - Aka Martin A. Boegelund
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect gunzip
Date: 21 May 1999 18:50:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Busch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I downloaded Corel WP8 (guilg00.gz) and when I try to gunzip I get the
> message "not in gzip format". I clicked on "download now" and
> downloaded the file. After the download was complete I saved the file
> to a temporary directory for unzipping. This process has worked for
> other ".gz / tar.gz" files. I don't understand the problem I'm having
> with Corel. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it.
There's at least one problem, more likely two:
1) The files are *NOT* just gzip files; they're TARRED gzip files. They
SHOULD be given .tar.gz or .tgz extensions, but for some reason they
were given .gz extensions alone.
2) Netscape "helpfully" gunzips files it downloads, but DOES NOT remove
the .gz extension.
The result is that if you used Netscape to get the file, you've got a tar
file with a .gz extension on your hard disk. Use tar on it without the
"z" parameter and it should work.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
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From: Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:29:42 GMT
Chester Raffoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been running setiathome on three different systems:
> P2-350/128 MB Win98: ~34 elapsed hours per dataset
> P2-350/128MB NT4: ~28 CPU hours per dataset
> PPro-200/128MB Linux 2.2/Redhat 6.0: ~17 CPU hours per dataset
Dual PII-450 (Compaq 1850R)
Redhat-5.2
Kernel 2.2.4
256mb RAM
prompt%~/setiathome-1.1.i686-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1>$ ./setiathome
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Doh!
C
--
Christopher Mauritz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Stefan Knabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux killer for SuSe 6.1
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:57:07 +0200
Surprisingly, the stack isn't limited. The documentation says, the maximum
stack size is 8MB, but that is not true.
Juergen Heinzl schrieb in Nachricht ...
>In article <IOOvIWvo#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Knabe wrote:
>>A simple infinite recursion kills Linux :
>
>I doubt that ...
>[...]
>>void InfRecursion (){
>> char c[4000];
>> InfRecursion ();
>>}
>[...]
>>I'm using Kernel 2.2.5, SuSE 6.1.
>>I started the program from kterm under KDE.
>>After a while, Linux was dead.
>... since the stack size is limited to 8MB in the kernel. I'd rather
>suggest that your system was busy paging, but that does not mean
>the system itself, say the kernel has waved you bye bye.
>
>>Well, one can avoid this by delimiting the stack via ulimit -s .
>I never did.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 8 & Printers
Date: 21 May 1999 18:01:32 GMT
Johan Kullstam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: > There is a !index.txt there that will list all the printers their
: > drivers support. Download the necessary one, unzip it the .exe file and
: > then stick the *.all file into your /shared/wpc20 directory somewhere (I
: > think). These drivers work under any WP of any platform, for example even
: > WP5 for OS/2 can use the drivers in the wp5x directory.
: all platforms? really? my old man is using wp v2 on a ti xt 8088 dos
: box. i see they also have a version for the macintosh platform. they
Don't think that old, it goes by version number see (though there
is a directory there in the printdrivers called oldwp (I think). For
example, they have directories for WordPerfect 4.2 (wp42), WordPerfect
5.x (wp5x) and WordPerfect 6.x (wp6x). The wp6x drivers will work with
WordPerfect 7 & 8 (dunno if they will with 9, but I'd imagine they will.
The drivers in wp5x directory are for WordPerfect 5.0, 5.1, and 5.2 and
so on. It goes like that, see. I probably should've specified when I
said these drivers will work for any WP platform. Basically, if one had
WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS, WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows, and also
WordPerfect 5.2 for OS/2, the same single driver that came from the wp5x
directory will work on all three, regardless of platform.
For your father, I'd suggest him upgrading to WP5.1 for DOS.
Same hardware requirements (just a PC with 397k conventional RAM and
nothing later than DOS 2.0). Should find it dirt cheap by now...
: will these drivers really work? my father in particular would be
: interested since he has no driver for any laser printers with his
: ancient wordperfect installation.
The only thing I can suggest is for him to look into the
pub/printdrivers/oldwp directory and see if there is anything there for him.
: > These drivers won't work for WinPrinters, however. Your printer
: > manual should come with the various emulations or whatnot if your
: > particular printer is not listed. HP lists for the 695/697 to use the
: > 660C (or 600C/850C) driver for instance. Canon 4300/4400 could use the
: > 4200.
: btw how do i add fonts to wordperfect? i have purchased a copy of wp
: and have a dead tree manual but there are no instructions for adding
: fonts.
Well, if you go by these WP printer drivers, the fonts are
actually stored in the driver. I don't know how to add any extra fonts
though.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Woodford)
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:57:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 19 May 1999 17:56:58 GMT, Jason T. Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Isn't popular yet? Oh dear. Please excuse me while I try and stiffle a
>>roaring guffaw.
>
> OK, I'm waiting. Stiiiilllll waiting. Well? No guffaw. Oh, could that
>be because FreeBSD's rise and fall cannot be calculated because the numbers
>just aren't there yet whereas Linux, on the most optimistic observations, has
>surpassed Mac's base install with a majority of that being servers? Hmmm,
>food for thought.
Numbers... dont mean jack. It means a lot of people bought/obtained
it. Just because something is popular (by the numbers) doesnt mean that it's
good... it doesnt mean anything. Windows... which is without a doubt the
largest, steaming pile of freshly spewed horse shit that _I_ have ever seen in
my life... has greater numbers than Linux.... so what does that mean? That
people are fundamentally stupid (no offense to windows users, I have one as
well). Linux is a house hold name now. I know people, who are barely (and Im
being generous) capable of dealing with DOS/MacOS and the like (read simple
OS'es) saying to me, "Im thinking about installing Linux, I've heard it's
really cool." Your numbers probably count them too. And no offense to the
simple people of the world, but that doesnt work in your favor. So leave the
numbers in the books where they belong, and not in sensible conversations.
FreeBSD is doing well for itself, and IMO, has a leg up in stability
over most OS'es. It still has problems, and a long way to go... but who cares
what it's user base is? If it's good, it will be used.
--
Bill Woodford * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ICQ:14076169
Volunteer Coordinator, OTAKON 1999: Convention of Otaku Generation
"Windows Multitasking: Messing up several things at once."
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From: Sean Godsell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RPM to see what package a file is in?
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:52:25 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can anyone help me with this problem that I am having with rpm.
I heard that you can find out what package a particular file is in. sing
the rpm command. Just using it on the command prompt only not built
into any scripts.
If anyone knows the syntax of the command to perform this action, I
would really be grateful.
I can view all packages installed on the system using rpm -qa
or find a particular file in a package using rpm -ql packagename | grep
filename
Maybe I am just getting too old, but I can't figure it out.
Signed Please help a desperate man
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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