Linux-Misc Digest #299, Volume #20               Sat, 22 May 99 02:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Playing audio cd on cdr? (David A. Rogers)
  Re: PHB ammunition - microsoft hate links (Ken Williams)
  Re: Partiton Problem With RedHat 5.2 ("Charles Sullivan")
  Netscape locks up when I first start it up (Paul Harris)
  Re: SCSI Question (Mark Forsyth)
  Re: prevent detection of 2nd HD (Wayne Kovsky)
  Re: G-N-O-M-E as default instead of Fvwm (Clarence Riddle)
  Re: Cant remove a package (Bob Tennent)
  Re: SETI comparisons (Raj Rijhwani)
  Re: Why won't RPM package Install in GnomeRPM? (Allen Wong)
  Re: Help: Access to Linux for disabled people: on screen keyboard for Linux ? (Neil 
Cherry)
  Re: Linux or linux? (ENTERforNone)
  Re: Getting PPP to work (Hans Malschaert)
  Why oh why ? (EMACS question) (Matteo Sartori)
  Re: SETI comparisons (Seth Van Oort)
  Why won't RPM package Install in GnomeRPM? (Rand Simberg)
  Re: Samba_2.0 NT4_SP3 and Linux SuSE6.1 (Matt)
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Brandon)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David A. Rogers)
Subject: Playing audio cd on cdr?
Date: 22 May 1999 03:51:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've got a memorex 1622 ide cdrw in my pc.  It's on hdd.  I followed the cd
writing howto and everything seems to be working as far as burning cd's.  The
only thing that bugs me is that I can't listen to audio cd's on the device.
I've tried setting cdrom -> scd0 and then running xplaycd.  It just sits
there.  It's not a major issue cause I've got the other cd player in the
system to play cd's on.  It just bugs me 'cause I think it should work.

BTW, when cdrom points to scd0, I can mount a data cd on the writer.

Let me know if you've got any clues.

Cheers,
dar

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: Re: PHB ammunition - microsoft hate links
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 03:50:52 GMT

>But some of the links came back 404'ed.
>
>Any chance for a cleaned-up list?

I'll work on it.  I think I'll start a microsoft hate site when I get some 
time.


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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partiton Problem With RedHat 5.2
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 23:42:08 -0400


Sod Enfopol98 wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
   <snip>
>RedHat5.2 tends to come with the 2.0.x kernel which can't recognise
>FAT32s, but can recognise FAT16s.
  <snip>

Not true!  FAT32 is recognized by Redhat 5.2 (and 5.1 also).




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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:21:44 +0000
From: Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape locks up when I first start it up

Hi all,
When I first start up netscape it locks up for about 3 minutes.
Then it works normally.   This first happened on redhat 5.2.
Older versions of netscape work good from the start until I
launch the mail program.  It does it to netscape 4.XX (up to version
4.6)
I run enlightenmnet window manager ( it does the same thing under
FVWM2).  I have a Matrox G200 8MB card.
I anybody else has seen this or knows of a fix please let me know.
thanks.
paul


--
"An  infinite number of monkies pounding on typewriters could turn out
Shakespeare.  Microsoft?  Sixteen monkeys sharing a fountain pen and a
case of beer.  Take away the pen and you've got ZDNet."
                         --Anonymously posted on http://slashdot.org




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From: Mark Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SCSI Question
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:51:54 +1000

Nope. I'm currently using a mother board with on-board SCSI
(AIC7xxx) and an AHA2940UW. To all intents and purposes the same
controllers. They use the same driver module.
Mark F...

John Hong wrote:
> 
>         Would there be any problem with Linux if I have two SCSI cards
> that use the same kind of chipset?  In this case, a ASYS SC-875 and ASUS
> SC-200, both use NCR/Symbios chipsets (875/810).  Will this be any
> problem having both in the same machine for Linux?

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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:18:53 -0600
From: Wayne Kovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: prevent detection of 2nd HD

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> How can I prevent Linux (or Windows, for that matter) from knowing about
> the 2nd hard disk? I would like it to stay spun down, but every now and
> then linux accesses it for whatever reason. (Windows does too.) The OS
> is RH5.2.

In addition to the answers you've already received, I believe you can
modify your /etc/fstab file to remove any references to partitions on
that second hard drive.  If those partitions are never mounted, Linux
can't access them.

-- 
Wayne Kovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Colorado Software Summit (A Java Programming Conference)
http://www.SoftwareSummit.com

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From: Clarence Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: G-N-O-M-E as default instead of Fvwm
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:51:00 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I installed the first time as a "server" and got fvwm. I installed
again, typing 'expert' at the boot prompt and selected 'upgrade'. From
there I  'chose' the install packages and installed all of them. After
rebooting, the X  package was Gnome. I have 5 installs this way and all
came out the same.

cgr


Aaron Brace wrote:

> Do you have the gnome RPM's installed?
>
> Aaron Brace
> Unix System Administrator
> L.L. Bean Incorporated
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>> "Itzik S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/15 7:41 AM >>>
> Hi,
> I'm re-sending this question, fixed ( i hope so ) and more detailed.
>
> I'm trying to set G-N-O-M-E to be default instead if Fvwm,
> but with no success.
>
> I'm using RedHat 6.0 .
> As far as I understand, this the scenario in my computer ( and many
> others i guess.. ):
>
> "/etc/x11/xdm/Xsession"
> then
> "root/.Xclients"
> then
> "root/.Xclients-defaults" ( who choose what to run according to
> ".wm_style" )
>
> I think that "/etc/x11/xdm/Xsession" is trying to find some file and
> can't find it because there i see the command "exec gnome-session",
> but
> it fails and continues to "root/.Xclients" etc.
>
> Can anybody help, and tell me in which i set the default ?
> Thanks,
> Itzik.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cant remove a package
Date: 21 May 1999 19:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca

On Fri, 21 May 1999 11:46:29 -0400, Douglas Ritschel wrote:
 >WHen I try to remove this package, I get the following.
 >
 >
 >[root@adz2 /etc]# rpm -e g77-2.90.29-1
 >/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.89707: lisa: command not found
 >execution of script failed
 >
 >
 >If I try to re-install it I get:
 >
 >[root@adz2 /etc]# rpm -Uvh --force  /tmp/g77/g77-2_90_29-1_i386.rpm 
 >g77                        
 >##################################################
 >/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.83737: lisa: command not found
 >execution of script failed
 >
 >When I try to use it I get: 
 >
 >[root@adz2 /tmp]# g77 test.f
 >ld: cannot open -lgcc: No such file or directory.
 >
 >Any ideas how to remove it?

It looks like the package needs lisa to install/uninstall itself.
AFAIK lisa is an installation utility used in the Caldera
distribution of Linux.  You can find it via rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM.

Or if you're not using OpenCaldera, try another g77 rpm; find
it as above.

Bob T.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: Fri, 21 May 99 21:25:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <37437264$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
           [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Carl Hilinski" writes:

> I'm curious if anyone else is running this and what kind of results they are
> seeing.

P120, Linux 2.0.36, running in an xterm, estimated time to complete 
~34.5 hours.
-- 
Raj Rijhwani        (umtsb5/16) |  This is the voice of the Mysterons...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]        |  ... We know that you can hear us Earthmen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]       |  "Lieutenant Green:  Launch all Angels!"
http://www.courtfld.demon.co.uk/raj/ (demon, and gods, willing...)


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From: Allen Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Why won't RPM package Install in GnomeRPM?
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:08:22 -0700

Rand,

    It did install but it's the wrong package.  You just installed the
source code.  You need to install the binaries.

Allen
-- 
Linux:  If you're not careful, you might actually learn something.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Help: Access to Linux for disabled people: on screen keyboard for Linux ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:53:42 GMT

I don't know about an on screen keyboard but I have found a site
specifically for people with disabilities (and using Linux of course):

http://leb.net/blinux

I hope that helps.

-- 
Linux Home Automation           Neil Cherry             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/ncherry                         (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52           (Graphics GB)


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From: ENTERforNone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Linux or linux?
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:31:12 +1000

eloki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Er... no.  Linux never started as a GNU project, and has never been one. 
> The source code is released under the GPL, but that doesn't make it a GNU
> project.  The Free Software Foundation has their own (micro)kernel called
> Hurd.

The first release on Linux stated that a complete system can be made
by using the GNU utilities.  The second (I think) release had the licence
changed to the GPL for this reason.  So Linus from the start intended the
GNU stuff to be part of the complete system.

The GNU is not there because of who wrote the utilities, it is there
to make people aware of the philosophy behind a copylefted operating
system.  The recent comercialisation of Linux has made a lot of people
forget that the most important feature of GNU/Linux is its freedom.

cya

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From: Hans Malschaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Getting PPP to work
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:51:30 +0200

First read the pppHow-to and then read  the excellent paper of Bill Unruh
about ppp:
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
Be sure to use the right patch of ppp for your Linux version ( I am using ppp
2.3.5 in SuSe Linux 6.0)
Succes

Hansm


Jay wrote:

> Can anyone explain how I can get PPP to work. First I noticed that PPP was
> not installed. So I recompiled using 'make config' and 'make dep'. Then I
> recompiled the modules. However on rebooting I still can't find PPP as
> installed. What am I missing?
>
> -Jay


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From: Matteo Sartori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Why oh why ? (EMACS question)
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:39:21 +0000

Why is it that noone has done a BRIEF emulation mode for emacs ? Or is
it just me who can't find it ? 
Alternatively can you in emacs define that pressing HOME
once takes you to the beginning of the current line
twice takes you to the top of the current page
thrice takes you to the top of the current document

and similarly for the END key.

Can emacs let you use the ALT key as a control type key (as in alt-c
starts the column/rectangle select) ?

Any help is appreciated mucho.

M@

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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:23:54 -0500

I haven't run the SETI code so I don't know how it behaves, but for pure
processing an OS can't do much of anything except slow it down with
interrupts and such. I have run the rc5 on both windows98 and linux and
the linux version was around 1% faster. OSes differentiate themselves in
their i/o and memory management. From looking at the download page it
looks like the windows version does a graphic display while the unix
ones do not. This could make all the difference in the world. Even in
linux, when compiling large programs you can cut the compile time by
around 5% (in xwindows) just by redirecting the compiler output to
/dev/null. This is just a minimal amount of text. (disclaimer: I have a
grand total of around two hours of windows programming experience, but I
think this is how it is) Plus windows98 graphics use the win3.1 model
where all processes share the same memory and have the ability to stall
each other. I can only assume that for stability's sake, NT does a
better job which would explain why NT works faster.

Seth

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I've got about a dozen machines currently running Distributed.net's
> > RC5 cracker that I'm about to migrate over to the SETI project.  I
> > should get a nice cross section of performance numbers under NT
> > and linux (K6-233 to dual PIII-500).
> 
> I'd be very interested to have you run both the win client (with both
> processors, maybe even at normal priority) and the linux client on the
> dual PIII box and post the results here.  I've got dual PII-450's/512 MB RAM,
> but I have too much real work to do to leave the machine in NT long enough
> for it to do a whole work-unit.  Plus, leaving the win client at
> normal priority on both processors makes NT _very_ unresponsive.
> 
> --
> ------------------------------------
> Joshua Baker-LePain
> Department of Biomedical Engineering
> Duke University

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Why won't RPM package Install in GnomeRPM?
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 02:36:34 GMT

 I downloaded a package (gnome-network-1.0.202.src.rpm) from the
ftp.gnome.org web site and tried to load it in GnomeRPM.  When I
clicked on the install button, with the rpm file selected, it did
nothing.  I did a query on it, and was informed that it was
uninstalled.  I tried it from the command line with rpm -i [filename]
and it gave me a new prompt as though it did it, but there is nothing
in the system to indicate that anything was installed.  Does the fact
that part of the file name is .src mean that I have to somehow compile
it?  If so, why doesn't either RPM or GnomeRMP tell me that there's a
problem and that I need to do this, instead of doing nothing?  This is
very frustrating.

If this is typical software installation in a Linux GUI, it's not
going to take the world by storm...

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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:25:55 +0100
From: Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba_2.0 NT4_SP3 and Linux SuSE6.1
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,comp.protocols.smb

Fixed now the problem was setting the following options..

public
writeable
read only

Now I can read & write setting users and almost
anything.

Many thanks to all that sent me info etc..
It was all in the samba site.

Matt

Matt wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Yep, the user is root. It has full 777 permit's to all dirs and
> commands.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Matt
> 
> Mark McCoy wrote:
> >
> > Matt wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have just configured SuSE 6.1 with the updated
> > > samba.rpm. The NT box can see Linux and can logon
> > > to the Linux box using NT4 SP3 (using the active
> > > descktop).
> > >
> > > However when I attempt to copy a file to Linux
> > > from NT I get a permissions error. I have
> > > added full permissions to the user on NT.
> > >
> > > even with the option of
> > >
> > > security=share or security=user in the smb.conf
> > >
> > > If I attempt to change the permissions on NT
> > > just in case (to ckeck the permissions)
> > > I get an active desktop explorer error exception.
> > > The active desktop then reverts to the recovery
> > > desktop.
> > >
> > > I can copy files from Linux to the NT directory
> > > but not the other way (NT to Linux).
> > >
> > > Is there another problem in samba, or is there
> > > another setting in the smb.conf that I have
> > > missed ?
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> > does the user have _Unix_ write permissions to the directory??
> > Even if Samba gives read/write permission to a SMB user, the user account on the
> > Linux box must have write access to the directory.
> >
> > For example, if I export /usr/local/projects as a read/write share "proj" (in
> > smb.conf), and fictitious user "larryb" (in the fictitious group "programmers")
> > mounts that share, he can only write to the directory if the directory looks
> > like any of these (ls -ld /usr/local/projects):
> > drwxr-xr-x 3 larryb     root            ..............  projects
> > drwxrwxr-x 3 root       programmers     .............   projects
> > drwxrwxrwx 3 root       root            .............   projects
> > (of course 777 permissions are dangerous, so no follow-ups explaining that
> > please)
> >
> > larryb can not write there if the permissions look like this:
> > drwxr-xr-x 3 root       othergroup      .............   projects
> > since he is not in the group that owns the directory, even though samba tells NT
> > that this is a read/write share.
> >
> > --
> > Mark McCoy -- Proud to run Linux since February 1996
> > Systems Administrator - Cajun Brothers Technology, llc
> > The views in this message do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer
> > This message posted from snowdog, a 100% MS-free machine.

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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 01:13:13 -0400
From: Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom

Kenneth P. Turvey wrote:
> 
> On 19 May 1999 00:02:53 +0200, David Kastrup 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Snip, I'm not even going to comment on the fear aspect.]
> 
> >No honest person has a chance to make any use of a weapon he might be
> >carrying if a hoodlum chooses to attack him with a weapon.  The
> >hoodlum will not stand there as an open target and start the process
> >by warning the other person.  The honest person has no option to shoot
> >potential hoodlums unawares.  For that reason, the general easy
> >availability in bearing arms is heavily disparaging honest people.
> 
> Statistics don't bear you out.  The most successful way to defend
> against rape is with a handgun.  This does increase the risk of
> accidental shooting, and the risk of the `hoodlum' getting the gun (from
> zero to something finite), but the risk of rape drops dramatically.
> 
> Just because you believe you have no use for a gun doesn't mean that no
> one has a need for one.  I don't need a gun to defend myself either, but
> I am pleased that I have the right to if necessary.

thats always a good thing to know u have the right but the bad thing is
everyone has the right and not everyone uses the right for what its
worth.  They use it for taking the offensive against society and not the
defensive.
If it weren't for those people YOU wouldn't even need to have the gun to
defend yourself in the first place.  They are the absolute cause of the
whole damn mess.


> 
> I noticed that you picked your words carefully.  I didn't respond to the
> assertion directly because it is irrelevant and probably impossible to
> prove or disprove.
> 

Brandon

-- 
                              

"Bill Gates?, I dont know any Bill Gates.  Oh, you mean 'by putting
every conceivable 
 feature into an OPERATING SYSTEM, whether you want it or not, is
innovation' Bill 
 Gates? Yeah, I know the monopolizer"
                
                  http://web.mountain.net/~brandon/main.htm
     For Beginners in Linux, Emulation, Midis, Playstation Info, and
Virii.

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