Linux-Misc Digest #336, Volume #20               Tue, 25 May 99 00:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  How ready is Linux with IPv6? (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
  something other than dip? (F. Heitkamp)
  Re: FDD Tape Drives ("Scott D. Hernalsteen")
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: Middleware to connect PostgreSQL to Web forms ? (Gene Wilburn)
  Re: Will a SupraExpress 56i modem run under linux? ("esoteric")
  Re: Linux and Win98 dual boot. ("John M Wright")
  Kernel 2.2.8 breaks 127.0.0.0 ??? (Paul Thomas)
  Re: Linux on an IBM Thinkpad 560E (Sylvain Lapierre)
  Re: Middleware to connect PostgreSQL to Web forms ? ("Cameron Spitzer")
  test (Chip Cosgrove)
  smp kernel has "oops" error (ag)
  "modprobe: can't locate module pf-3" (Timothy J. Lee)
  Re: car mp3 player (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Commercially speaking....? (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Hard drive flipping bits! ("esoteric")
  Re: ghostscript output (James Lee)
  Re: Alpha, PowerPC, Intel, and Sparc (Philip Brown)
  Re: List of Colors for configuring? (Robert Heller)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: How ready is Linux with IPv6?
Date: 25 May 1999 09:54:02 +0800

Thanks for any info.  Cheers.

Napi

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (F. Heitkamp)
Subject: something other than dip?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 25 May 1999 02:48:05 GMT

I've used dip to connect to my ISP (SLIP) for some time 
now. Though it works fine, I keep wanting something with
more and better features. What are the alternatives?

Fred





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From: "Scott D. Hernalsteen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FDD Tape Drives
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:31:16 -0400

Adam J wrote:
> 
>    I'm looking to maybe put a floppy controller add-on tape drive (I think
> it's an HP 250MB) into my linux box.  I run RedHat 5.0, and it says that
> the kernel will support the drive but that it isn't a RedHat supported
> device.  Am I getting myself into deep do-do here, or is it not that hard
> to do?  (If it's not too hard to do, what would the device be?)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Adam J

I don't know about RH 5.0, I use 5.2 with my Colorado Jumbo 250 and it
works fine.  BTW, the device name is /dev/ftape.


--Scott/KC8LXM

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 25 May 1999 03:34:18 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kenneth P. Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In the end, the reason we have the right to bear arms is to protect
>ourselves from a tyrannical government.  As long as this ability is
>preserved, some level of enforced responsibility is not objectionable. 
>
>Unfortunately the government has already banned those weapons that
>are most capable of protecting the citizenry from a potential tyrant.

Yeah, tactical nuclear warheads and rocket-propelled grenades. Or were
you thinking of something different? What do you plan to do when the
tyrannical government you want to protect yourself from sends tanks to
roll over you? What will you do against an Apache helicopter? What will
you do against an elite commando unit?

Any *sane* person knows they don't have a snowball's chance in hell.

>Assault weapons were responsible for less than one tenth of one percent
>of all the gun related homicides in this country when they were banned.

You must be mistaken, they aren't banned!

>Trying to be sensible about gun control has lead to foolish laws and

The problem is that nobody has tried to be sensible. Being sensible would
mean that you ban all firearms of any kind except those owned by the cops
and the military, and make the manufacture, import and export of firearms
illegal. Experiments run in LA(?) show an immediate drop in homicide when
gun laws are enforced.

>that are poorly enforced.  It is unfortunate that the supreme court has
>allowed the erosion of the second amendment (and the fourth). 

>I do think an armed citizenship is not only positive but a requirement

Then you don't think too well. An armed citizenry *cannot* withstand
an organized army and anyone with more than a single functioning brain
cell will tell you that. So instead of an armed citizenry, you must
have a *dis*armed government.

>for sustaining a free society.  I find it unfortunate that our children
>will not have the guarantees that we did; that their children may not
>have the rights that we do. 

The right to die in a violent homicide?

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From: Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Middleware to connect PostgreSQL to Web forms ?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:39:53 GMT

Depending on your definition, PHP3 would certainly qualify as
middleware. It is to Apache what Cold Fusion is to IIS. Excellent
database links built in and rapid development (embedded coding within
your html forms).

Info at www.php.net

Gene

Cameron Spitzer wrote:
> 
> In the Microsoft world, folks who want to put a baseball card
> collection or a shopping cart on the Web are told not to write
> code, but to use a template connector to generate the Web forms
> and "middleware" integrity logic that goes between the
> CGI or ODBC driver and the SQL server.
> 
> In the Linux world, it's a little harder to find things.
> Everywhere I've looked for a middleware package, I find a
> tutorial on how to roll the logic from scratch in C or Perl.
> Am I looking in the wrong places?
> Is there a package someplace that will read a high level template
> and write the form processor that talks to the database engine?
> I'll write the perl if I have to but it seems to me this problem
> has probably been solved by a professional programmer.
> 
> Specific pointers would be appreciated.  Saying "just get connector"
> really doesn't help someone who does not already know what "connector"
> is, who wrote it, etc.  Many Linux applications have names
> that are common dictionary words, and they cannot be found
> by name alone using search engines.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Cameron

-- 
===================================================================
Gene Wilburn, Northern Journey Online, http://www.interlog.com/~njo
===================================================================

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From: "esoteric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Will a SupraExpress 56i modem run under linux?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:37:22 -0700

This modem will work fine. It is a true hardware based modem using the
RC56KDPF chipset. The only "winmodem" diamond makes is the SupraMax (stay
away from that piece of #$%#$^)

a good init for this modem is AT&F2 (set's autoreliable mode) to set v.34
just put +ms=11,1,300,33600 (or desired max speed)




Ozzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:2A523.14487$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
>
> Anybody running this modem under linux?
> successfully?
>
>



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From: "John M Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,iupui.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Linux and Win98 dual boot.
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:02:15 -0500

| The Award BIOS in my Tyan 1590/AMD K62 450 does not have a format hard
drive as far
| as I could tell.
|

one most drives over 5 gigs or so a virtual sector layout is used instead of
physical sectors.  if you use your bios 'low level format' you can render
your drive completely useless... if you must empty the drive, try useing a
program called "ZAP" .. it writes binary 0's to the first 2 Mgs of your
harddrive, doing the same basic thing as a low-level format... i think you
can link to this program from IBM's harddrive support or Maxtor's harddrive
support web pages...

~jmw



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Thomas)
Subject: Kernel 2.2.8 breaks 127.0.0.0 ???
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:24:48 -0800

Hi,

I just upgraded my kernel from 2.0.27 to 2.2.8 and
all the associated packages (except glibc6 yet).

Things are working and compiling, yay! But my loopback
seems to be broken now. I can:

ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1

but,

route add -net 127.0.0.0

gives me the error:

'SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument'.

I think this must be a kernel 'thing' because I can
run my old kernel (2.0.27) instead of the new one
(2.2.8) and the route invocation for 127.0.0.0 works.
I put back the new kernel and get the error message.

Any advice appreciated. I realize there are alot of other
details I'm leaving out. I'm not sure what is relevant at
this point and am checking to see if this rings a bell
with anybody.

Please reply via email as my news is spotty. I will post
any conclusions back to the newsgroup here.

Thanks,

--Paul T.



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From: Sylvain Lapierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux on an IBM Thinkpad 560E
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:00:18 -0400

John Ioannidis a �crit:
> 
> I'm trying to set up Red Hat 6.0, upgraded to the 2.2.9 kernel, on my
> old Thinkpad 560E.  I don't seem to be able to get the sound to work,
> either using the out-of-the box kernel, or using the recompiled 2.2.9
> kernel with all the relevant sound modules enabled.
> 
> Any hints will be appreciated.

I supposed that linux like NT doesn't love that the sound card is bound
with the modemn ( you have a mwave card ? ) ...

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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Middleware to connect PostgreSQL to Web forms ?
Date: 25 May 1999 03:35:39 GMT

I suppose PHP3 is at the very lowest levels of what MIS and e-commerce
people call "middleware."  Though I really don't "get it" as to what
PHP does for me that I couldn't do in the same amount of time with
Perl CGIs.  It just locates the code in a different place.
 And it seems that it requires me to modify Apache, which  
will take more time searching the jumble of documentation.
(After the great a.out to ELF uprade debacle, I am leery of following
any single HOWTO that touches several large packages.  Gotta read
everything to find the contradictions and the obsolete version-
specific stuff.)

I spent quite a lot of time at www.php.net, and found an unfinished
tutorial (that didn't mention connecting to SQL) and a whole lot
of advocacy.  Must've missed those great database links built in.
Got a URL?

Commercial middleware lets you describe the logic of your database
application in very high level terms, and then generates skeleton forms
(that you can pretty up as needed) and the connector code, ready
to run.  I'm starting to get the picture this simply hasn't been done
in GNU-land yet, along with the office suite and the Web-calendar.
Too bad.  I think if I were rich I might hire some folks to do it,
and GNU it.

Cameron


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gene Wilburn  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Depending on your definition, PHP3 would certainly qualify as
>middleware. It is to Apache what Cold Fusion is to IIS. Excellent
>database links built in and rapid development (embedded coding within
>your html forms).
>
>Info at www.php.net
>
>Gene
>
>Cameron Spitzer wrote:
>> 
>> In the Microsoft world, folks who want to put a baseball card
>> collection or a shopping cart on the Web are told not to write
>> code, but to use a template connector to generate the Web forms
>> and "middleware" integrity logic that goes between the
>> CGI or ODBC driver and the SQL server.
>> 
>> In the Linux world, it's a little harder to find things.
>> Everywhere I've looked for a middleware package, I find a
>> tutorial on how to roll the logic from scratch in C or Perl.
>> Am I looking in the wrong places?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chip Cosgrove)
Subject: test
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:04:55 GMT

Ignore this message, just didn't have any better place to send off a test
ng message.




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From: ag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: smp kernel has "oops" error
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:36:20 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi All,

I've been trying to build an SMP kernel with 2.2.5 (RH 6.0).  When the
time comes to mount the local filesystem, the machine complains:

Mounting local filesystems: Oops 0000
CPU:    1
EIP:    0010:[<c2814181>]
EFLAGS: 00010286
<snipped>
                                [FAILED]


The boot process continues and then the machine hangs up on "Mounting
other filesystems".  Mono CPU kernels boot and run without a hitch.  Any
idea what the problem is? 


Andrew


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: "modprobe: can't locate module pf-3"
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 02:30:38 GMT

When booting, a Linux kernel 2.0.36 computer gives messages like

modprobe: can't locate module pf-3
modprobe: can't locate module pf-6

and then stops booting.  What are modules pf-3 and pf-6?

-- 
========================================================================
Timothy J. Lee                                                   timlee@
Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome.             netcom.com
No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: car mp3 player
Date: 25 May 1999 03:11:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 24 May 1999 15:06:14 GMT, 
 David L. Bilbey, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>
>[ Article reposted from mtu.computer.linux ]
>[ Author was David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>[ Posted on 24 May 1999 14:57:51 GMT ]
>
>
>Alright, the only problem I have left is the power supply.  Someone
>suggested building custom regulators.  I have no idea how to do that, nor
>do I even know where to start.
>
>I have been informed that www.maxim-ic.com sells DC-DC converters, and that
>these are a very good solution for in-car computers/mp3 players.  So I went
>to the site and looked at the DC-DC converters.
>
>The problem is that it asks for all kinds of info such as: min. input
>voltage, max input voltage, output voltage, output current required,
>shutdown[yes/no], pins/package, multiple output[yes/no], and HR or 883B
>qualification available[yes/no]. 
>
>Huh?  I don't know what to put in for these values (they are multiple
>choice though, which is kind of nice).  Can someone help me out?  I just
>want a simple solution that will power the computer in the car, and not
>waste a lot of power or money (i.e. an inverter)
>
>Thanks,
>bilbey
>

if you know what Voltage and current requirements you have, let me know
and I'll paw through their app-notes at work and see if they have a simple
to build solution. 
 (I assume you need +12V, +5V and -5V, but the current draw makes a diff.
you could check the ratings of whatever was the original powersupply. 
Absent that avenue, an educate guess :)

>--
>"The next time you go to the doctor, go ahead and bring in a stool sample.
>They might need it.  Better go ahead and bring some for the dentist too."
>--Jack Handey
>
>-- 
>"One of the bad things about panning for gold is maybe sometimes you'll
>get a crawdaddy in your pan, and you start to wonder if you should give up
>on the gold and just go for crawdaddies.  I can't make that decision for
>you."  --Jack Handey
>


-- 
Jim Richardson
        www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 04:09:30 GMT

On Mon, 24 May 1999 18:57:21 +0100, Matthew Kirkwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>GGI is a similar project.  It never really took off in the same way that
>ALSA has, but it is gradually converging with the fbcon's view of the
>world, and will only go towards making Linux graphics safer and, in some
>cases, faster.

It has taken quite a long time for GGI to "get far enough" to
represent more than mere "proof of concept."

There was some ill-will for a while, it would appear, at Linus'
reluctance to put GGI code into the kernel.

Since then, the addition of fbcon as well as convergence on GGI's part
towards supporting running atop X and other
not-so-strongly-tied-to-one-OSes-kernel ways of functioning has led to
the recent release that looks like it's probably starting to be
useful.

In retrospect, the *right* thing to do two years back probably should
have been to try to promote putting something like fbcon into the
kernel, and keep that as the "target."  Pushing the immature codebase
of the "kernel bits" GGI as it was then into the Linux kernel would
have been a Bad Idea.

It looks like GGI is, at long last, getting mature enough to be
usable; it'll be interesting to see what gets built on top of it.
-- 
"The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe
is that it has never tried to contact us." -- Calvin and Hobbes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/xbloat.html>

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From: "esoteric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Hard drive flipping bits!
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:26:55 -0700

bad ram.



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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ghostscript output
Date: 24 May 1999 18:30:41 -0500

John E. Garrott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I am having problems with ghostscript.  Two weeks ago printing was fine.
: Then I bunged some files in /usr.  I managed to replace them and every
: thing else has been fine.

: Problem: When I send a file to the printer, either through apsfilter
: or by directly calling ghostscript
:    (gs @stc2.upp  -sOutputFile=/dev/lp1 POSTSCRIPT_FILE -c quit)
: the printer starts spewing paper, stopping every once in awhile like
: it is printing something, but never putting ink on the paper.

: The printer works fine if I send it ascii (cat filename >/dev/lp1) or
: try to print from W95 or (lpr -Pascii filename).

: I have 1) reinstalled ghostscript (gs5.5) from scratch
:        2) RTFM'd until my eyes are dropping out of my head

: I don't understand what is going on.  Could someone please give me
: a clue?

I got a similar problem when I upgraded ghostscript from 4.0.x to
5.50. I used to print with stcolor, and I could print 180x180 (draft)
or 360x360 when I pass the resolution to gs. After upgrading, I
can print with 360x360 or extremely with 720x720, which was setup 
using RH 6.0 new printtool (and using stc stc2, etc). 
However, when I use 180x180, the paper
feeds just continue forever. Turning off the printer and removing the
job from the print queue does not help. Turning it on again will cause
it to spew paper. The only way was to power the computer off.

Any ideas would be nice.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Alpha, PowerPC, Intel, and Sparc
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 May 1999 23:53:43 GMT

On 24 May 1999 12:58:06 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>...
>Sorry, I don't know anything about the SPARC architecture.

great FP support. so-so integer performance. true 64-bit support, like alpha.
great multi-cpu support.

> Probably the
>best architecture to invest in based on future potential, speed, and power
>efficiency is the PowerPC.

not.



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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: List of Colors for configuring?
Date: 25 May 1999 03:39:17 GMT

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mianne),
  In a message on Sun, 23 May 1999 11:39:20 GMT, wrote :

M> Reading through some of the config files they make reference to colours being 
something
M> like 'SkyBlue', 'DarkGray' etc.
M> 
M> Is there a list of these colors somewhere so I can configure Xwindows to my own 
colours.
M> 
M> Please point me to resources or help where I can find this myself (I HAVE tried 
looking
M> but with no luck!!!)

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb.txt

M> 
M> Thanks.
M> 
M> Mianne.
M>                                                 



                                                                                       
                                       
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