Linux-Misc Digest #344, Volume #20 Tue, 25 May 99 15:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Erik Olson)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Marco Antoniotti)
Re: Linux vs. NT performance / Mindcraft results ("Mav")
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
advance power management ("Paul D. Pandian")
Re: Auto-update RPMs? (Sam Steingold)
Re: ATI Rage 3 Video Card (Rich)
how to kill a dead process? (Sam Steingold)
Re: SBLive with Linux...*sob* (Bernie Borenstein)
Acrobat 3.02 & Netscape/RedHat 4.2 ("Frederick A. Kelly")
Re: netscape, download, long wait fails on large files (Marc Mutz)
Re: Fun things to do with an extra linux box (Marc Mutz)
Re: syslog functioning weird? (Saotome Ranma)
smbfs & smbmount (Albert Ulmer)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Ed Avis)
Re: What happened to fdformat (Neil Zanella)
Re: Iomega products and Linux (Timothy Murphy)
Re: Desktop items and suse login ?? (David Goldstein)
Large CD-ROM file errors...? (Mark Tranchant)
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From: Erik Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.help,linux.news.groups,uk.comp.os.linux
Date: 25 May 1999 17:41:50 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Erik Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Now this is a nightmare scenario I hope never happens to any company, but
>> >> the utter disreguard the GPL has for the commercial sector and their
>> >> priorities will let this sort of thing happen. Freedom for the user my
>> >> @$$, what about my freedom for my company to make a profit?
>>
>> > Why should you have freedom to profit from the works of others?
>>
>> That was my point, the GPL will allow the above nightmare scenario.
> No it won't.
Yes, it has, the xxgdb HP product shows that my above nightmare scenario
did happen.
>> If you GPL your code you have just given me the right to hijack it.
>> And hijack it, for profit as in the example of HP selling a debugger
>> that is based on gdb. HP is not doing anything wrong, they just
>> put a Motif front end which is closed source on top of gdb.
> ala xxgdb? Who would want such a thing?
That is not the point, HP sells it, it is proprietary, it is based on gdb,
and gdb is GPL.
The fact xxgdb is a wrapper is not important, what is important is that this
example shows the power of what I call "business evolution". Given
sufficient profit motive a business and its laywers will twist and bend
things into their liking. Like Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic Park, "life
will find a way."
> Of course it's legal: it's just as legal as running Netscape or Oracle
> or any other commercial application on Linux. "Oh, no, evil Oracle is
> making syscalls to my GPL'd kernel!"
Now this has confused me, making system calls to the Linux kernel by non
open source commercial programs should be illegal, or at least my
interpretation of the GPL makes me think so. But apparently it is not.
I don't understand. Can you explain why?
If indeed this is a special case, then this is just a tiny tear in the GPL
which IMO is about to become a huge hole when big business challenges and
relentlessly thrashes the GPL in court.
Well, Stallman had his "use GPL for libraries, not LGPL" rant and it got me
thinking, something seemed really unconstitutional about restricting
usage of dynamic linkage of libraries. I've been at companies that have
tried to patent their API's so that other companies couldn't legally clone
their library or chip. As sleazy as it was and as hard as they tried I don't
think they could. The GPL doesn't forbid someone from cloning a library that
has the same API, harmony, ... So the actual existence of the clone seems
like a technicality and irrelevant to me.
I'm not saying the GPL should be disobey'd and I'm NOT saying the GPL is bad
or worthless, I'm just saying if it is of utmost importance to you, like the
financial well being of your business depends on the GPL holding up in court,
then you are a fool and you deserve to fail. For non critical uses, which
is the case for most users, the GPL is fine.
> Um, since when has sendmail been GPL'd?
Sorry about that, I thought it was, I was wrong.
> Hint: there is a HUGE difference between a GUI wrapper (such as xxgdb
> and its role with gdb) and integration into one program (such as what
> sendmail.com sells).
Really? Other than a couple layers of OS and command parsing, please tell
me what is this huge difference? And don't go saying speed or pointer
manipulation or some rubish like that. Functionally a wrapper can be made
to behave like a library. Imagine a futuristic OS and the speed and pointer
issues go away. Don't some companies sell commercial perl scripts?
And isn't there a perl or some other scripting language compiler?
>From my point of view the whole LGPL vs libraries under GPL issue is blurred.
It's not going to hold up in court.
> I gather you've never done serious programming or
> you'd understand the distinction.
I gather a kiddie as yourself ought to show a little more respect to an old
fart like me who has likely been programming since before you were even born!
Take that flame baby.
erik olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Marco Antoniotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 25 May 1999 16:30:13 +0200
EVEN MORE OFF TOPIC :)
Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Marco Antoniotti wrote:
>
> >Unless in the past months some federal law was
> >passed in this respect, in some US States, you do not even have any
> >right to retrieve what data is stored about you by, let's say, some
> >credit-assessing *private* agency. The naivete of the people
> >supporting anti-governement views is sometime astonishing.
>
> Surely you support the right to keep secrets? There are often good
> reasons for keeping information confidential. And nobody is forced to
> listen to the agency; it's up to individual lenders to decide where to
> get their credit ratings from. They may well decide that an agency is
> more trustworthy if its information is kept secret.
You are not the lender. And an individual should be able to know what
is known about him/herself. An information gathering agency,
especially if private, should not have *any* right whatsoever to keep
information about an individual, without allowing the individual the
"right to know".
More on the point. Yes. I do respect the reasons given about
"secrecy" and - as an example - I do see the problems related with an
agency (today mostly private) to redistribute all the info they have
about me. An agency may be serious enough to keep data secret.
Unfortunately this is not what happens. Sales of mailing lists is a
major revenue voice for many a company. And, just to make things
murkier, I do see the problems that any law enforcement agency has
when dealing with crypted Mafia email messages or when keeping secret
an investigation on - let's make things even more entertaining - an
"insider trading" investigation in Wall Street. :)
But the problem above is different. You have *private* (i.e. not even
"public") companies, of which you are not a customer (that is to say,
you do not have leverage on them by exercising your "power of choice")
which are gathering information about *you*. And *you* should have
all the rights to obtain (gratis - which is another problem) whatever
info it is gathered about *your* private life. I have no problems
with credit rating agencies, as long as they do not charge me to know
what they have gathered about me and as long as they do not charge me
for making amends to their records when they are "provably" (quotes
mandatory) wrong. But this is just a minor thing.
The morale of the story is that you need regulation (there! I said it!
The R-word which makes conservatives all over the world shiver :) ) about
these processes. And, IMO, the best solutions are those which protect
the individual and not the private enterprises who are today in the
business of gathering information about me - e.g. by launching a robot
scanning these newsgroups for email addresses. The Italian Law on
privacy protection is pretty good. But it falls just short of the goal
I stated in many ways (it is too long a discussion).
All in all, to enforce this kind of regulation, you need .... a
Government. Rush Limbaugh and his devotees will have to accept
this. Sorry guys. :)
Cheers
--
Marco Antoniotti ===========================================
PARADES, Via San Pantaleo 66, I-00186 Rome, ITALY
tel. +39 - 06 68 10 03 17, fax. +39 - 06 68 80 79 26
http://www.parades.rm.cnr.it/~marcoxa
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.realtime,comp.arch.embedded
From: "Mav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs. NT performance / Mindcraft results
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:48:48 GMT
This bozo is just trying to start a flame war....
Kill this thread now and maybe he'll go play by himself somewhere.
Mav
jsnyder wrote in message <7ieb4h$j79$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Talk about BRAIN DEAD. Out of the box Solaris will barely drive a VGA
>screen, let alone having any useful drivers for other stuff.
>
>BobX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Linux is only a TOY, and NT is a total JOKE. You guys should check out
>> Solaris.
>>
>> if you guys are driving hardware not supported under Solaris, the
>> hardware is too new (ergo not tested), or is bad.
>>
>> period.
>>
>> BobX
>>
>>
>>
>> Tewpin Andrey (����� ������) wrote:
>> >
>> > 1. In comp.arch.embedded it isn't so interesting...
>> > 2.Yes. Linux has some problems with threads...
>> > 3.Yes. Linux hasn't problems with drivers for newest devices...(no
>drivers -
>> > no problems).
>> >
>> > At7
>> >
>> > P.S. Don't worry. Linux's enough good OS w/o any tests...
>> >
>> > A. Steinhoff wrote <7idvj0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...
>> > >
>> > >Bruce Weiner wrote in his rebuttal:
>> > > "Setting the Record Straight: Where ABCnews.com Got It Right and
>Wrong":
>> > >
>> > > "2.Mindcraft used a server with a MegaRAID controller
>> > > with a beta driver (which was the latest version
>> > > available at the time of the test) while the PC Week
>> > > server used an eXtremeRAID controller with a fully
>> > > released driver. The MegaRAID driver was single
>> > > threaded while the eXtremeRAID driver was
>> > > multi-threaded."
>> > >
>> > >That means that these Mindcraft guys were aware that they have tested
>> > >the LINUX performance with a BETA DRIVER for the MegaRAID controller
>and
>> > >they were aware that this beta driver was just a SINGLE-THREADED
>driver!!
>> > >
>> > >It's evident that the multi-threaded NT driver for the MegaRAID
>controller
>> > >has a much better performance under havy load as a single-threaded
>> > >driver ... so their so called test results are very dubiuos and
rigged.
>> > >
>> > >As Lincoln said:"One can cheat the poeple .. but only for a limited
>time"
>> > >
>> > >Armin
>> > >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:47:09 -0700
On 25 May 1999 14:28:19 +0200, Marco Antoniotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>ABSOLUTELY OFF-TOPIC.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Wilson) writes:
>
>> Did you know that the fascists of Italy and the Nazi's of Germany passed
>> massive gun restrictions that effectively disarmed the populace?
>
>Ahem. Of course, history is not done with "if's", but if the pre-1922
>italian goverments had effectively disarmed the Fascist Squads, maybe
>we wouldn't have had to endure "Him". The same argument holds for the
>Weimar Republic goverments wrt the "Brown Shirts". Your knowledge of
>history seems spotty. Your argument leaks.
Except the SA was notorious for BEATING people not shooting them.
If you think weapons controls slow down thugs, you've been living
a sheltered existence.
[deletia]
--
Novice end users deserve better than a |||
random collection of spare parts optimized / | \
for cost rather than ease...
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: "Paul D. Pandian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: advance power management
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:55:19 +0800
Hi everyone.
I am using RedHat 5.2 with kernel version 2.0.36. I configure it and ensure
that advance power management is selected, together with the option for
power off at shutdown selected as well. All is fine now. The system
dutifully shuts down and automatically power offs when asked to. (Saves time
hanging around waiting for all services to terminate, and then having
manually to turn the power off.)
Okay: Question. I upgraded the kernel to 2.2.0 (and tried all the rest
upwards too inlcuding the latest 2.3.3). System cannot shutdown. Even when I
selected the APM options under kernel configuration and compilation.
What do I do ?
Thanks everyone for your time.
Regards,
Paul
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From: Sam Steingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Auto-update RPMs?
Date: 25 May 1999 13:31:20 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : Is there a program/script that will go out and update my RPMs? Please
>> : no comments about deb
rpm.lsp in http://www.goems.com/~sds/data/cllib.zip will go out and
fetch all RPMs newer than already installed or downloaded. it is not
wise to install anything automatically.
see also http://clisp.cons.org and ftp://cellar.goems.com/pub/clisp/
--
Sam Steingold (http://www.goems.com/~sds) running RedHat6.0 GNU/Linux
Micros**t is not the answer. Micros**t is a question, and the answer is Linux,
(http://www.linux.org) the choice of the GNU (http://www.gnu.org) generation.
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.
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From: Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ATI Rage 3 Video Card
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:57:45 GMT
I also could not get the new Rage128 cards to work with any of the older drivers,
even in basic VGA mode. I contacted ATI and got a very polite email from their
marketing department telling me how hard it was to support "every operating
system" out there (huh?).
XFree86 indicates that they are working on a new architecture for XFree and I take
that to mean that we will not be seeing any *new* drivers based on the old model.
I ended up putting in an older Mach64 card and use the Rage128 on another system.
Rich
jim wrote:
> Zoran Bebic wrote:
>
> > What type of card is that exactly. When I was installing drivers for my Rage
> > Pro I saw an alternate name as ATI Rage 3 means Rage Pro. But then I could
> > also be wrong....(can't remember precisely).....Did you try with any other
> > older driver, 'cos with ati it just may work, or not, anyways it's worth
> > trying...
> >
> > Nik Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I have been searching and searching and I can't find a driver for my new
> > > ATI Rage 3 Video card. The card is so new that it wouldn't surprise me
> > > if it takes a bit of time for a driver to come out.
> > >
> > > But I was wondering if any one had already gotten it to work? Or if
> > > anyone has heard of a driver being developed?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
>
> I have the same issue . I think he may mean the rage fury 128bit 32meg agp
> card.
> at least thats the issue i have.
>
> Jim
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From: Sam Steingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to kill a dead process?
Date: 25 May 1999 13:33:51 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how do I get rid of this process:
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
sds 26725 0.0 1.3 4808 3532 pts/2 D 12:54 0:00
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66/cc1 /tmp/ccgcQxbp.i -
(except by rebooting the machine, of course).
Thanks.
--
Sam Steingold (http://www.goems.com/~sds) running RedHat6.0 GNU/Linux
Micros**t is not the answer. Micros**t is a question, and the answer is Linux,
(http://www.linux.org) the choice of the GNU (http://www.gnu.org) generation.
Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up this floppy disk?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernie Borenstein)
Subject: Re: SBLive with Linux...*sob*
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:01:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Okay, I give up. I really need some help getting my Soundblaster Live Value
> card to work with Linux. Could someone be kind enough to talk me through it
> from the beginning?
>
> Assume I have a freshly installed SuSE 6.0 installation, a freshly
> downloaded copy of the Creative Drivers and an inquisitive mind.
>
> I have recompiled the kernel following the insttruction provided....ie
> sound as a module, and no other drivers selected (except /dev/dsp and
> /dev/audio). Then after installing the CL drivers I reboot and try insmod
> soundcore. This reports that it cant find a module called soundcore.
> Running insmod sblive give a lot of *.o problems.
>
> Help!! Ta.
>
>
David,
If you are willing to shell out $20, then the 4front technologies
commercial sound driver is the way to go. Check out there site at :
http://www.4front-tech.com/
BB
They have a demo to try.
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From: "Frederick A. Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Acrobat 3.02 & Netscape/RedHat 4.2
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:12:34 -0400
Could someone please help with this problem?
I have tried to set up Acrobat 3.02 as an inline viewer for the Netscape
4.05 that
came with RedHat 4.2. Following the instructions in README302, I ran
the
installation script and accepted "/usr/local/Acrobat3" as the install
directory.
I ran the <installdir>Browser/netscape script. The RedHat 4.2
distribution,
however, doesn't put the files in the location that this script expects
them. So I
edit the script and set
adir="/usr/local/Acrobat3"
ndir="/usr/bin/"
XKEYSYMDB=/usr/local/Acrobat3/Reader/intellinux/lib/XKeysymDB
XENVIRONMENT=/usr/doc/netscape-common-4.05/Netscape.ad
It still doesn't work and I don't what to try next. The message
generated is:
ERROR: libc.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
Can't load plugin /usr/local/Acrobat3/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so.
Ignored.
I found this shared object file at /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libc.co.5
but don't
know how what to do with it.
Thanks for any assistance.
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:38:25 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape, download, long wait fails on large files
Leon Harris wrote:
>
> Hi to all.
> Sorry about the long title, but ....
> I have a problem with netscape 4.5 downloading large files ( I assume
> over http).
> When, for example, I grab the latest postgres tarball, netscape will
> save all but the very last bit of it. It then sits forever, with
> essentially 100% of the file - less some tiny amount.
> If I ls -trl in the dir, I can see that the file doesn't change in size.
> If I copy it to somewhere safe and then close the netscape download
> window, and then copy it back - no joy, the file gets corrupted. Of
> course if I just close the download window, netscape removes the file,
> and I am screwed.
> I have a suspicion that it is a proxying issue - my isp uses a squid
> proxy, and my university uses one to (reportedly, though I don't know
> where). Is there any way to force netscape to do the right thing and
> save the file cleanly? Why does this only seem to be a problem with very
> large files ?
>
> any advice would be most appreciated.
> Cheers,
> Leon
use 'lwp-download <your URL here>' from the perl distribution (should be
installed if you have a linux-dist. from not more than a year or two
back. You can even run it with nohup, so's you don't need to sit in
front of your box logged in forever...
Marc
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:48:02 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fun things to do with an extra linux box
Gerritt Baer wrote:
>
> Well, I've found myself with an extra PII/266, and can't find a real
> use for the darn thing. I could install w95 on it to chain my pcs
> together so I can play quake2 with myself, but I was hoping to do
> something more useful/interesting with it. So i've installed SuSE 6.1
> on it yesterday and I'm trying to think of some interesting/fun things
> to do with the box. As, of now, it just sits there doing not much of
> anything :) Anyone have any good ideas?
>
> Gerritt Baer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.) goto ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.3/
2.) download linux-2.3.3.tar.bz2
3.) unpack it with bunzip2
4.) configure it, compile it, boot, wait for 2.3.4
5.) download patch-2.3.4
6.) patch your source-tree,
7.) return to (4) with 2.3.4 replaced by 2.3.5
:-)
Marc
PS: this is not to be taken seriously...
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Subject: Re: syslog functioning weird?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Saotome Ranma)
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:47:38 GMT
In article <7icuiu$83p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
L J Bayuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>I noticed that lately all my logs are going directly to my mail log
>>instead of being broken up into messages, syslog, etc. etc.
>>
>>Looking at syslog.conf, I don't see any errors, but running syslogd in
>>debug mode reveals:
>>...
>>cfline(mail.*; /var/log/maillog)
>
>I think this line is it: "mail.*;<tab>/var/log/maillog"
>Take off the ; in this line.
>It looks like syslog is seeing it as "mail.*;*.*"
I removed the extraneous ';' but that did nothing to help.
Any other suggestions? It's driving me crazy!
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From: Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.samba
Subject: smbfs & smbmount
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:27:44 GMT
Hello all!
I=B4m having a bit of trouble mounting Windows NT shares on a Linux=20
(SuSE 6.0) box. I use =BBsmbmount //ntserver/exported_share=20
/local/mountpoint -U username -P password -D Ntdomain -I=20
serverIPaddress -u userid -g groupid -f 0777 -d 0777=AB to mount the=20
shares, so I should not be having problems with any permissions.
The problem is that the permissions for files and directories become=20
0000/0000 (!!) and the owner becomes root:root right after I mount the=20
share, so a normal user can=B4t possibly access the stuff in there. Only=
=20
root has access, but that is not of much use.
I have read practically every FAQ I could get my hands on and yet I=20
was unable to figure out why smbmount keeps ignoring my permission=20
settings.
Can somebody point me to the right direction with some useful hints?=20
Any help is highly appreciated!
Best regards,
Albert.
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From: Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:19:25 +0100
Ottavio G. Rizzo wrote:
>I don't understand: it is bad if the government has secret files about
>me, but it's OK if a private company does?
I don't think the government should hold secret files because they are
not in the credit rating business. However, if you applied for a job
in the civil service, it would be reasonable for them to ask for
references from your previous employers, which need to be
confidential.
>>They aren't doing you any harm
>
>They might well be: what if they had wrong or false data about my
>financial situation?
The same argument applies if I started telephoning people and telling
them falsehoods about your finances. Yes, you would be able to sue me
for slander if my actions harmed you; but that's not an argument for
saying that all telephone calls should be monitored, or that I should
let you listen in to any calls I make - even if they are about you.
>I should have the right to know they have those
>data and the right to get them rectified. Actually they shouldn't even
>have the right to hold such an information without my consent!
Okay, so _you_ should have the right to view other people's
information if it concerns you, while _they_ should not have the right
to keep secrets. Do you not think you're hoarding all the 'rights' to
yourself here?
>Doesn't the EU law say so?
Yes, it does. I don't agree with the law, however. In particular, I
am worried that companies won't be able to get confidential,
trustworthy references for their employees (and the same applies for
other things like university applicants). Also, I think it's an
infringement of my privacy that I have to inform the government if I'm
collecting a list of names.
Don't get me wrong - I think that some enforced freedom of information
is a good thing, but we have to recognize that we can't grant this
without trampling on the privacy of others, and there need to be
exceptions.
>>- surely what they do, in private, behind closed doors is none of
>>your business.
>
>Since they talking about me, it *is* my business. The government is,
>after all, responsible to me (well, since I'm leaving in a country of
>which I'm not a citizen, this is not entirely true, but yet...): they
>are not.
I don't see that it's your business, even if they are talking about
you. I think they are perfectly entitled to discuss what they like
without having to inform you.
--
Ed Avis
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: What happened to fdformat
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:51:40 -0230
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Paul Payne wrote:
> Type, without quotes, "mke2fs /dev/fd0", if you want an ext2 format
> floppy. Don't know how to get a ms-dos format. If your floppy is not the
> first floppy you will sub the zero with the right number, ie 1 for the
> second floppy. Paul
I think you can make a dos formatted floppy with the mtools (the command
is mformat). You can download mtools from the usual places if you don t
already have it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: Iomega products and Linux
Date: 25 May 1999 19:28:12 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sylvia Wong) writes:
>I totally agreed with you. I recently bought a zip drive. I knew at that
>time that they're supported under linux (we've them at uni). I read the
>manual and was suprised that other minority OSes are supported (incl os/2
>and mac) but not linux, not even any unixes. I rang the company to tell
>them that this is not good enough and the only respond I get is "we do not
>support unix".
In my opinion anyone thinking of getting a Zip drive
should get the SCSI version.
Then all these issues won't arise.
I agree that Iomega should mention --
at least in the SCSI Zip manuals --
that the drive works perfectly well under Linux.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Desktop items and suse login ??
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:14:11 +0200
"Confused!" wrote:
>
> After installing suse 6.0, how can i reduce the size of my desktop
> folders, taskbar, and the graphical suse login prompt which appear
> twice the size than on a previous install??
You need to edit your /etc/XF86Config file. It sounds like you are
starting up in 640x480 mode. At the bottom of the config file, you will
find the "Screen" section. You will notice the "Display" subsections,
as well. When you look at the modes for the various depths, you will
see "640x480" displayed first. Simply move this to the end of the
line--or delete it entirley, if you do not want to use this mode.
The GUI will start up with the first values that appear in the
modeline that you have chosen. By the way, if you wish to start up in a
different color depth than 8, you need to add the line
<DefaultColorDepth xx>. Do not use the <>'s and the default color depth
is whatever you want to use and the graphics card can handle.
David
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Large CD-ROM file errors...?
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:05:55 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I got a friend to burn the StarOffice 5.1 download onto a CD-R for me
rather than taking it home on 51 floppies. This CD-R was burned under
Windows 95, with a file name of so51_lnx_01.tar (note: a long file
name!).
On getting home, I booted up Linux (2.2.9, with full CD support
including Joliet compiled in) and tried to copy the 70.6MB file.
However, Linux could only see the first 16MB or thereabouts. The copy
succeeded and tar de-archived the file fine up to the truncation.
So I tried DOS (7.0), which saw it as many files of about 650KB each,
all with the same name. Argh!
Windows 95 read it correctly and copied it fine, although it took *ages*
(about 20 minutes on a 486DX4/120 with 24x EIDE drive).
What's going on?
Mark.
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