Linux-Misc Digest #344, Volume #21 Mon, 9 Aug 99 21:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Hobbyist �)
Re: Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way? (Ian Wilson)
Re: How do I tell RH sees a second CPU? (Jordan)
Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way? (Jordan)
Re: Same version number after a kernel patch (William Burkett)
Re: Database access program (John Carter)
Re: Linux assembly, etc (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Re: printk ??? ("Hung P. Tran")
Mouse in Quake (John David Bowden)
Re: Have you heard? (Wolfrider)
BSD memory tuning parameters on Linux (Mladen Gogala)
Re: squeaks on video activity w/ soundcard (Doug Dahlke)
Re: Can't recall commands after upgrade to RH 6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Executing Java Classes (Young4ert)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Christopher Browne)
Kernel RECOMPILE (Roger Jagoda)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Aug 1999 19:12:58 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:
> On 09 Aug 1999 16:06:17 -0400, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hobbyist �) writes:
> >
> >> I assume that you mean that M$ is imposing slavery upon us all. If I'm
> >> indeed correct would you care to explain why? I feel free to use whatever I
> >> want to. This monopoly was attained by no use of force as is used in the
> >> context of slavery.
> >
> >the DoD requires all documentation to be submitted in ms-word 6.0 for
> >windows. you work for a DoD contractor; you use ms-word. everyone
> >here hates microsoft, but we like to win contracts.
>
> Considering that Word6 is a non-moving target, living
> without an actually copy of msoffice shouldn't be too \
> much of a problem. Not to mention, I had Office Pro 4.3
> running under Wine quite a while ago. Wabi runs it as well.
it is a non-moving target, however the file format depends heavily on
being in a microsoft environment. basic text is portable. tables
less so. figures tend to get totally mangled. equations (i *am* an
electrical engineer) do not work. eqnedt32.exe exists only for
windows (and perhaps macintosh).
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hobbyist �)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:52:14 -0400
On 09 Aug 1999 16:06:17 -0400, Johan Kullstam wrote these
sagacious words :
: > Why the IMMENSE exaggeration?
:
: you are obviously a student or unemployed. get a job. see what they
: have you use.
This is irrelevant? If you get a job with any
company/corporation, your power of choice exists only within the
realms of the choices your employees allow you. It is usually not
the case that you are able to use the OS of your liking. If they
slapped Unix on your desktop to use and you wanted to use Windows
or MacOS wouldn't you have to keep your trap shut and run Unix as
you are being forced to run Windows where you work? Answer me
that one. You can only blabber about it because your preferred OS
is not the one being used by your employees.
I hardly use a computer where I work but my profession involves
the use of a lot of instrumentation which exists in diverse forms
of varying qualities etc. I have to use what instruments that are
presented to me because this is what the company purchased to be
used. I may be lucky in convincing them to change to another
instrument but I don't usually hold my breath where that is
concerned.
The crux of the matter is:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Whenever _you_ are in control and are therefore in a position to
make the decision of what OS to use such as in your home or on
your own network, does M$ force you to use their products?
The answer to that of course is an emphatic NO.
: yes, you can find unix jobs. but what if you're not a sysadmin or
: asic vhdl jockey?
That is because Windows is the dominant OS and that in turn is
because that's what most corporations businesses choose to use.
Where does this ridiculous notion of slavery being imposed on us
by M$ come in.
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From: Ian Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way?
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:17:26 +0100
1. ImageMagick
2. Jeff Pozkaner's bitmap utils "pbm"
Jordan wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have about 200 image files that are now in standard
> bitmap file format. I believe they are 8-bit / 256 color bitmap's. Is
> there a utility to convert these to 4-bit /16 color images? I understand
> that i could load each on individually into a program such as
> photoshop/gimp (probably xv does it too) and convert them by hand, but i
> figured this is linux, there should be an easy convienent way to do
> anything, although the hard part is usually finding it.
> I'd appreciate any tips,
> jordan
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From: Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I tell RH sees a second CPU?
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:23:32 -0400
You probaby have to re-compile the kernel to include smp support. check
/proc/cpuinfo to find out what linux knows about your cpu(s), if it sees 2 it
will tell you there. If you have to recompile, make sure to set smp=1 (it
means true not 1 cpu, which is back-asswards if you ask me), and make sure to
disable APM, they don't work well together.
--jordan
Jared Hecker wrote:
> Subject line says it all. I added a second PPro to a RH5.2 machine and
> while I *think* it's faster I am looking for a utility that confirms Linux
> sees it (I know RH6.0 deals with SMP better and am planning to upgrade).
> xosview did not, nor did xsysinfo.
>
> TIA -
>
> Regards,
> jh
> --
> Jared Hecker | HWA Inc. - Oracle architecture and Administration
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ** serving NYC and New Jersey **
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From: Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Batch Converting Graphics, is there a way?
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:14:56 -0400
Hi all,
I have about 200 image files that are now in standard
bitmap file format. I believe they are 8-bit / 256 color bitmap's. Is
there a utility to convert these to 4-bit /16 color images? I understand
that i could load each on individually into a program such as
photoshop/gimp (probably xv does it too) and convert them by hand, but i
figured this is linux, there should be an easy convienent way to do
anything, although the hard part is usually finding it.
I'd appreciate any tips,
jordan
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From: William Burkett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Same version number after a kernel patch
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:22:46 -0500
Joshua Li wrote:
> I patched and rebuilded 2.2.6 kernel, and it apparentlly runs fine, but
> uname -a still tells me its 2.2.5. How can i correct this?
>
> COL2.2, Kernel 2.2.6(patched from 2.25)
It runs fine? It doesn't look like the new kernel is running yet. Make
sure you moved the new kernel image to /boot/vmlinuz (the image is
probably /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage or bzImage). Don't forget
to mv your old image from vmlinuz to some other name if you want to keeep
it for emergency boots.
If you've done that, all that remains is to run lilo. You might have to
edit lilo.conf first, especially if you want both old and new kernels
available at boot time. If you need help with this, feel free to email
me.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Carter)
Subject: Re: Database access program
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 21:43:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What I find more irritating is that none of them that I've looked at
>(with the exception of pgaccess) seems to do what I'd expect.
>
>All of them let me type in SQL queries and see the results, but as a
>first step, I'd like to be able to look at the existing tables and
>views, and sort on the columns and things, just so I can get the hang
>of what's there. pgaccess provides a list of tables, and I can just
>click on one to see it. Why doesn't kpsql provide that, for example?
SQL doesn't usually "sort" things. That's done with "ORDER BY" in the
query. The SQL implementations I'm familiar with (Sybase, Informix)
have a command to display the table structure.
Visit my source code page at http://www.mindspring.com/~johnecarter
Visit my favorite school at http://www.mindspring.com/~addison
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Linux assembly, etc
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Aug 1999 19:08:18 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >system calls in linux are C function calls. you could look at the
> >kernel as a low-level shared library. the linker/loader will set up
> >the appropriate hooks.
>
> Oh, puh-lease! We don't share that idiocy with OS/2. System calls
> do not use call gates and they are *not* affected by dynamical linker.
> Libc *is* a library and it contains the wrappers for system calls, but
> syscalls themselves are done via the single vector. Interface to the kernel
> is not a shared lib one.
of course it's not *really* a shared library. however, on the surface
it shares a couple of attributes:
1) system calls are done by a C subroutine call mechanism. in x86 you
push args onto the stack and use a `call' instruction.
2) the kernel is always in memory and all applications share it.
> --
> "You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
> "Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
and for the bazillionth time, dilbert doesn't say that! dilbert isn't
even in that sequence. wally says the first line. the old, bearded,
suspenders wearing guy says the `here's a nickel bit'.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:44:11 -0700
On 09 Aug 1999 19:12:58 -0400, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:
>
>> On 09 Aug 1999 16:06:17 -0400, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hobbyist �) writes:
>> >
>> >> I assume that you mean that M$ is imposing slavery upon us all. If I'm
>> >> indeed correct would you care to explain why? I feel free to use whatever I
>> >> want to. This monopoly was attained by no use of force as is used in the
>> >> context of slavery.
>> >
>> >the DoD requires all documentation to be submitted in ms-word 6.0 for
>> >windows. you work for a DoD contractor; you use ms-word. everyone
>> >here hates microsoft, but we like to win contracts.
>>
>> Considering that Word6 is a non-moving target, living
>> without an actually copy of msoffice shouldn't be too \
>> much of a problem. Not to mention, I had Office Pro 4.3
>> running under Wine quite a while ago. Wabi runs it as well.
>
>it is a non-moving target, however the file format depends heavily on
>being in a microsoft environment. basic text is portable. tables
>less so. figures tend to get totally mangled. equations (i *am* an
>electrical engineer) do not work. eqnedt32.exe exists only for
>windows (and perhaps macintosh).
I don't think that addressed the many emulators available,
including WABI, VPC and SoftWindows. VMWARE is also becoming
an option.
--
It helps the car, in terms of end user complexity and engineering,
that a car is not expected to suddenly become wood chipper at some |||
arbitrary point as it's rolling down the road. / | \
Seeking sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: "Hung P. Tran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: printk ???
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 23:03:22 GMT
Just to let everyone know that I figured out the problem. My
printk message was sent to /var/log/messages ... (until I
modify /etc/syslog.conf), not default to /dev/console as
I was expected.
hung
Hung P. Tran wrote:
> Thank you all for responding ...
>
> Yes !!! #include <linux/module.h> is in my module and I have
> -DMODULE and -D__KERNEL__ in my makefile.
>
> No, I am NOT trying to compile it as C++.
>
> I am NOT familiar with "use versioning on kernel syms". But I
> tried: grep printk /proc/ksyms <RETURN> and get:
>
> c01132e0 printk_R1b7d4074
>
> What's wrong and how do I fix the problem ???
>
> hung
>
> Villy Kruse wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > David Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Could this have to do with the "Use versioning on kernel syms" setting?
> > >Just a wild idea...
> > >
> >
> > Try grep printk from /proc/ksyms on a system with versioning enabled
> > and get something like
> >
> > 001141b0 printk_Rad1148ba
> >
> > So your wild idea is confirmed.
> >
> > BTW: it has nothing to do wich c++ mangling.
> >
> > Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John David Bowden)
Crossposted-To: nf.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Mouse in Quake
Date: 9 Aug 1999 23:18:22 GMT
I'm tearing my hair out trying to get my mouse it work in Quake... It's
one of those "Mouse in a Box" Kensington mice. It runs fine as a
Microsoft mouse. The bottom says "Serial and PS/2 Version", which it is
(serial).
My libvga.config reads:
mouse Microsoft
mdev /dev/ttyS0
my /etc/sysconfig/mouse:
MOUSETYPE="Microsoft"
XMOUSETYPE="Microsoft"
FULLNAME="Generic Mouse (serial)"
XEMU3=yes
I've read the man pages for svgalib and libvga.config, as well as the
quake HOWTO.
Any takers?
John
--
Clones are people two.
******************************************************************************
John Bowden Memorial University of Newfoundland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
******************************************************************************
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From: Wolfrider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.sex.fetish.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.security,esp.comp.so.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:38:29 +0000
--Yep, more details at this site:
http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99aug/19990808.html
(G)
--
==WolfriderV6, VROC #59(R)
Check out my Linux Tips site: http://members.xoom.com/rootski/linuxtips.html
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From: Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.kernel.general
Subject: BSD memory tuning parameters on Linux
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 23:30:48 GMT
On Solaris I could control the performance of virtual memory
subsystem with parameters like minfree and desfree and I could define
priorities and timeslices with the dispadmin tool.
Does those memory variables exist on Linux and if they do,
where can I find more info about them? A pointer to article or a
book would be fine.
Thanks,
Mladen Gogala
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From: Doug Dahlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: squeaks on video activity w/ soundcard
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:06:14 -0700
I found the same problem with my SB 128 card as well. You could here
ther mouse move via the speakers :-(. Playing around with the audio
mixer, I found that the midi control seemed to be introducing the noice.
After turning down the volume on the mixer for midi, all is quiet. I
can here cds play and sound bite okay now. Give it a try.
Doug
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just got a SoundBlaster 16PCI card for my ThinkPad 600E (w/ docking
> station), and I've gotten both the OSS/Free and OSS commercial drivers
> working with it using the Ensoniq es1371 driver. However, audio is
> interrupted by high pitched squeaks and static whenever there is
> significant video activity (moving windows around and such). This
> sounds like some sort of IRQ conflict. I poked around and found that
> it was on IRQ 11, and so was my TNT video card and my Linksys ethernet
> card. This is the same IRQ configuration under Windows 98, where it
> works perfectly, so I'm a little confused as to why Linux has problems
> with shared PCI interrupts, but I attempted to get the soundcard onto
> its own interrupt anyway.
>
> This proves to be kind of difficult on a ThinkPad, since you don't get
> any IRQ configuration screens in the BIOS like on regular
> machines. You have to use the ThinkPad configuration program under
> Windows to allocate more IP addresses to the PCI bus for the docking
> station. I allocated three extra IRQs for PCI, and now it appears that
> the soundcard and the video card are using different IRQs. Yet the
> problem persists. Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing
> this interference?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't recall commands after upgrade to RH 6.0
Date: 10 Aug 1999 00:04:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I recently upgraded my RH5.2 install to 6.0 and now I can't use
> "Esc k" or "Esc /" to search for old commands. I tried "set -o vi"
> but that didn't work. I'm running bash as my shell. Can anyone help?
> It's a pain having to re-type in old commands.
>
> Thanks in advance for your time,
Yeah, it's a pain isn't it? Try deleting or commenting out all lines
in:
/etc/inputrc
Then 'set -o vi' will regain its former effectiveness...
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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Executing Java Classes
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 20:09:09 -0400
A friend gave me a software package in a ZIP format and said that the
software was written in java language on NT-4.0 platform. She told me
all I need to do is just to extract the file in a directory and viola
... I can run this program in Linux because java program is supposed to
be platform independen. After unzipping the software package in a
directory, all I see is a couple of directories and a bunch of *.class
files. Having no prior knowledge of java language, I am clueless on how
to run the program. FYI, my computer is an AMD K6-2 400 MHz with
SuSE-6.1 Linux distro.
Perhaps, someone in this NG can direct me on what software package
should I install from SuSE-6.1 distro in order to run this java
program. An e-mail reply to this post is certainly more welcome than a
response to the NG.
TIA.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:56:45 GMT
On Sun, 8 Aug 1999 16:32:35 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hobbyist writes:
>> Why the IMMENSE exaggeration?
>
>Because he is either a complete ass or a libertarian troll trying to make
>socialists look like fools (and succeeding).
I had not previously thought of the latter option; knowing where he's
posting from, I would be surprised to find that sort of hotbed of
libertarian sentiment.
It's not imposssible, but Carleton University isn't noted for its
sizable libertarian population...
Back in the '70s and '80s, I seem to recall that the RCMP was doing
surveillance there due to speculation that the campus was a site of
recruitment for the French terrorist group "Action Directe." This may
have been silly paranoia, but this certainly doesn't imply heavy
belief in "The Right Wing Of The Bird."
--
Trivialize a user's bug report by pointing out that it was fixed
independently long ago in a system that hasn't been released yet.
-- from the Symbolics Guidelines for Sending Mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Jagoda)
Subject: Kernel RECOMPILE
Date: 10 Aug 1999 00:09:24 GMT
Folks,
After reading the HOWTOs, I think I still want to check with everyone first.
I have added a few modules that people have pointed me to. Now I'm just
getting ready to re-compile the kernel. here's what I think I need to do:
cd /usr/src/linux
make depend
make clean
make do-it-all
make zImage
make zlilo
lilo
sync
/etc/reboot
Some questions remain however;
1) Does "make zlilo" stuff the proper image in the lilo stream? If that's the
case,
then do I really need to run "lilo" after that step?
2) Does "make zImage" put the compressed image in the proper spot in the file
tree?
If not, where do I tell it where my lilo path really is?
3) Lastly, does "make do-it-all" leave anything undone? In other words, would
I have to run anything else after doing that step?
many thanks in advance!
-Roger Jagoda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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